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Cherries: Mitchell clashes with supporters (WITH VIDEO)
4:50am Sunday 30th September 2012 in Latest Sport
Please be aware that the video alongside this story may contain traces of foul language. We have edited out clear abusive words, but some may remain within crowd noise.
EDDIE Mitchell clashed with disgruntled Cherries supporters following yesterday's 2-1 defeat at home to Walsall.
After fans lodged a protest outside the front of Goldsands Stadium, calling for the head of under-fire boss Paul Groves, Mitchell emerged from the ground in a bid to address the crowd.
But as the group vented their frustration, Mitchell was shouted down.
And the scene turned ugly after Mitchell was involved in an angry verbal exchange with one supporter before being ushered back inside the stadium by stewards.
The media inside the ground conducting post-match interviews reported a commotion and children crying inside Mitchell's executive box following the match.
Associate director Dave Roberts, meanwhile, was seen being restrained by chief executive Neill Blake inside the Seven Developments box, while Mitchell was later locked in deep conversation with co-owner Maxim Demin.
One video shot by a supporter in the group outside the ground, and later uploaded to YouTube, showed Mitchell being struck on the head by a matchday programme thrown from the crowd as he was led back inside.
Asked by the supporters to make changes, Mitchell said: "It's all very well changing it, but we have to find a way to win.
"I could have employed Glenn Hoddle but we might still have been in the same situation.
"It's football. The ball is round and we are trying our best."
A supporter then asked Mitchell if he would sack Groves, before insisting the chairman could have his season ticket if the Cherries boss remained in charge. Fans then chanted 'We want Groves out'.
As Mitchell spoke with another fan, the crowd chanted the name of former boss Eddie Howe, before Mitchell replied: "Okay, I sack Groves tomorrow which will cost the club a lot of money, but we sack him.
"Then we get Glenn Hoddle or Eddie Howe and we carry on as we are. What do we do then, sack them?
"This breaks my heart and brings me to tears."
Mitchell then responded to one fan's comment by saying: "You haven't got any information have you? You haven't got a ******* clue."
Mitchell was then led away after being shouted down with chants of 'We want Grovesy out'.
Comments(193)
Afcbpete
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7:02pm Sat 29 Sep 12
pete woodley
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7:03pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Football banning order yob
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7:05pm Sat 29 Sep 12
paulhanlon
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7:06pm Sat 29 Sep 12
boyerboy
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7:08pm Sat 29 Sep 12
GROVES MUST GO GROVES OUT GROVES GO GO GO
paulhanlon
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7:10pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Football banning order yob wrote:Solent reported animated discussions between md and em. Maybe md will force the issue.
In eddies defence he was more than willing to answer questions when asked in an adult manner, the mindless few wound him up by swearing at him and throwing a program at him, however he will not be sacking groves n brooks.. Groves n brooks out.
Bobcat
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7:10pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Football banning order yob wrote:Isn't nepotism a wonderful success at AFCB ?
In eddies defence he was more than willing to answer questions when asked in an adult manner, the mindless few wound him up by swearing at him and throwing a program at him, however he will not be sacking groves n brooks.. Groves n brooks out.
susi.m
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7:15pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Football banning order yob wrote:There is no excuse for him swearing back or putting his fists up to fans.
In eddies defence he was more than willing to answer questions when asked in an adult manner, the mindless few wound him up by swearing at him and throwing a program at him, however he will not be sacking groves n brooks.. Groves n brooks out.
AFCB_112
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7:17pm Sat 29 Sep 12
susi.m
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7:21pm Sat 29 Sep 12
We must be the laughing stock of the football community.
YafcbY
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7:22pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Oakdale12
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7:23pm Sat 29 Sep 12
lofty1971
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7:23pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Groves, Brookes and the Mitchell clan out. Does Demin have the clout to kick them out?
He must take action! We are falling fast and seeing Pompey go above us with Thomas scoring the winner makes it oh so bitter sweet...
hotdog350
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7:24pm Sat 29 Sep 12
We want our club back and want rid of the Mitchells
West moors 1
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7:30pm Sat 29 Sep 12
lionheart
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7:31pm Sat 29 Sep 12
They are all past their sell by dates.
new cherry
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7:32pm Sat 29 Sep 12
YafcbY wrote:Not the supporters... That is a foolish thing to say
The reputation of our club is in the pits due to our own miserable supporters.
susi.m
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7:33pm Sat 29 Sep 12
YafcbY wrote:You are now very much in the minority. Any one with any knowledge of The Mitchells know that they are the ones who have ruined the reprutation of once very proud family and community club
The reputation of our club is in the pits due to our own miserable supporters.
bibocherry
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7:35pm Sat 29 Sep 12
stfcinbmth
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7:36pm Sat 29 Sep 12
West moors 1
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7:42pm Sat 29 Sep 12
afcb-mark
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7:44pm Sat 29 Sep 12
For crying out loud, this is a FOOTBALL CLUB. Give the supporters Football and they will be happy. Get Groves Brooks and the Mitchells out and stop this rot now.
Groves your post match interview on Solent was pathetic. Walk away man, you are not wanted as manager and take your side kicks with you.
Bobcat
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7:44pm Sat 29 Sep 12
The mistake he made was confirming the pair last season, now it's going to require a very large mop to clean this mess up , one from outside of the Clan. I won't hold my breath and do not think Demin will do anything.
RED on tour
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7:46pm Sat 29 Sep 12
rose tints rule
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7:51pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Not very becoming of a chairman but nor were our fans actions to the builder-got-lucky in the first place!
Groves / Brooks out.
Alumchiner
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8:00pm Sat 29 Sep 12
High Treason
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8:05pm Sat 29 Sep 12
YafcbY wrote:What a complete load of rubbish. Its Em and his cronies that have given the club a rotten reputation. What else do you expect from a multiple bankrupt.
The reputation of our club is in the pits due to our own miserable supporters.
Hardly high quality as today has shown.
hotdog350
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8:15pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Eddie is in trouble hopefully Demin is now thinking its time to make his move and gain complete control
AFCBade
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8:18pm Sat 29 Sep 12
bibocherry
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8:24pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Talkingheadera
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8:25pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Most of the players are good individuals but we just aren't playing as a team.
The blame has to be at groves door unfortunately.
He isn't going to resign as he wants the pay off as where's his next job coming from.? So Mitchell has to do the decent thing.
paulhanlon
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8:40pm Sat 29 Sep 12
susi.m
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8:42pm Sat 29 Sep 12
TrueCherry
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8:49pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Afcblees
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8:53pm Sat 29 Sep 12
fieldyperu
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8:58pm Sat 29 Sep 12
UTC
susi.m
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9:01pm Sat 29 Sep 12
paulhanlon wrote:I also heard that this happened, but I didnt actually see it. I was watching Zubar and some of the othes clap the supporters.
I heard talk that Addison threw down the arm band at full time and stormed off down the tunnel. I didn't see it. Does anyone know anything about this? Heard it from fans as I left the ground.
sdlay2
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9:02pm Sat 29 Sep 12
As for those having a go at Carmichael, he was our best player 2nd half by a country mile, would have him in for Partington next game if I were in charge (there should be a vacancy with any luck...)
susi.m
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9:06pm Sat 29 Sep 12
sdlay2 wrote:Who was it who appointed Groves and Brookes??????
Wish people would stop having a go at Mitchell for no reason. He is not making the club a shambles, PG is. Anyone outside the stadium today would say that EM was honest and reasonable with what he said, and only flipped when some idiot started chucking things at him.
As for those having a go at Carmichael, he was our best player 2nd half by a country mile, would have him in for Partington next game if I were in charge (there should be a vacancy with any luck...)
The buck stops at the top.
The honest Mitchell (LOL) you mention obviously isnt the one that many of us know.
fieldyperu
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9:07pm Sat 29 Sep 12
UTC
lionheart
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9:09pm Sat 29 Sep 12
susi.m wrote:Never acknowledged the fans and headed straight for the tunnel. Some captain.
paulhanlon wrote:I also heard that this happened, but I didnt actually see it. I was watching Zubar and some of the othes clap the supporters.
I heard talk that Addison threw down the arm band at full time and stormed off down the tunnel. I didn't see it. Does anyone know anything about this? Heard it from fans as I left the ground.
GaryFendley
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9:11pm Sat 29 Sep 12
charlie2004
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9:16pm Sat 29 Sep 12
sdlay2 wrote:What a silly thing to say! Mitchell is the one who hires and fires. He should never have hired the management duo in the first place, but as he did he should fire them both now. Mitchell knew best though. Against all who did not feel this pair had the capabilities he still went against them all and gave Paul and Shaun the job. Today and the whole of this poor season so far is the result of Mitchell's action.
Wish people would stop having a go at Mitchell for no reason. He is not making the club a shambles, PG is. Anyone outside the stadium today would say that EM was honest and reasonable with what he said, and only flipped when some idiot started chucking things at him.
As for those having a go at Carmichael, he was our best player 2nd half by a country mile, would have him in for Partington next game if I were in charge (there should be a vacancy with any luck...)
Chish and Fips
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9:18pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Have just seen the video of your Chairman who came over as some dodgy dealer who has been confronted by Rogue Dealers - this is the guy who preferred Groves to Di Canio - that says it all in most peoples books.
You lot are on the slippery slope it would appear ... good luck .. think you will need it for this season.
lionheart
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9:19pm Sat 29 Sep 12
fieldyperu wrote:Demin is a secured creditor as his company hold a debenture and a mortgage over a portion of land not subject to the sale and leaseback.
If Mitchell's relationship with Demin goes wrong like it is likely to then we are stuffed. If demin wants out the whole club will come crashing down and we will go bankrupt again,
UTC
There's no way he could have his money back so he would have to liquidate us or put a receiver in depending on what Structadene's response would be if we failed to pay the rent.
Red&Black Cherry
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9:19pm Sat 29 Sep 12
sdlay2
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9:21pm Sat 29 Sep 12
susi.m wrote:I'm not saying that EM has always been honest with us. He was talking to us very reasonably and honestly this afternoon, that was all I said.
sdlay2 wrote:Who was it who appointed Groves and Brookes??????
Wish people would stop having a go at Mitchell for no reason. He is not making the club a shambles, PG is. Anyone outside the stadium today would say that EM was honest and reasonable with what he said, and only flipped when some idiot started chucking things at him.
As for those having a go at Carmichael, he was our best player 2nd half by a country mile, would have him in for Partington next game if I were in charge (there should be a vacancy with any luck...)
The buck stops at the top.
The honest Mitchell (LOL) you mention obviously isnt the one that many of us know.
CC C-siders
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9:22pm Sat 29 Sep 12
What is going on with the coaching?
We can't score to save our lives. Our midfield was appalling today. O'Kane and Partington are well short of the quality needed. Barnard was hopeless again today - I cannot see why he was chosen ahead of Tubbs.
But it is our style of play that is lacking. Mindless - simply mindless.
As for the Yobs that goaded EM ..... Protesting is one thing, but seeking to bait EM is disgraceful given all he has done. Have you all forgotten where we were. Looking at the yobs today most of the mouthy were still in nappys when he saved us!
EM has been misguided today and should know better, but turning on him shows mindlessness on the part of a few idiots.
Utciad
paulhanlon
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9:26pm Sat 29 Sep 12
GaryFendley wrote:I am inclined to agree with this. Mitchell's biggest error is groves. Harry is unlikely to want the job but ask him to help appoint a successor.
Eddie Mitchell has taken what was left of a dead club and given the people of Afc Bournemouth the foundations of a great football club. All that is needed is a proven Manager with experience of how to get out of this league.Im a Saints supporter and you have to experience things going wrong for experienced people to put right.The Russian did not just walk through the door.Eddie found him.Spend some money getting a manager not another player.
Many have an agenda against Eddie Mitchell that pre-dates groves and bradders. I am sure they have good reasons but I think on balance he can be good for the club.
But his choice of managers is abysmal. Giving groves time will not help. There is no sign of improvement. No flicker of hope. The football is dire. The tactics are baffling to all except himself.
We all need to learn from our mistakes. Time Eddie learnt from his.
Anyone who says anything remotely positive about em is usually accused by intolerants on here of either being a Mitchell or being employed by him. So for the record I do not hide behind a pseudonym and I am employed by a software company in Yorkshire.
susi.m
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9:27pm Sat 29 Sep 12
sdlay2 wrote:That may be how your saw it today
susi.m wrote:I'm not saying that EM has always been honest with us. He was talking to us very reasonably and honestly this afternoon, that was all I said.
sdlay2 wrote:Who was it who appointed Groves and Brookes??????
Wish people would stop having a go at Mitchell for no reason. He is not making the club a shambles, PG is. Anyone outside the stadium today would say that EM was honest and reasonable with what he said, and only flipped when some idiot started chucking things at him.
As for those having a go at Carmichael, he was our best player 2nd half by a country mile, would have him in for Partington next game if I were in charge (there should be a vacancy with any luck...)
The buck stops at the top.
The honest Mitchell (LOL) you mention obviously isnt the one that many of us know.
However, Mitchell is still responsible for hiring Groves and Brookes - you cant deny that.
susi.m
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9:32pm Sat 29 Sep 12
CC C-siders wrote:Gosh you are deluded and have a very short memory.
I sympathise with EM. He has done so much good for the club but presided over the loss of Eddie Howe - which he must now deeply regret as he should now realise how fortunate we were to have him - and then two clueless managers. But also a bunch of players that play well when televised, but can't be bothered most of he time.
What is going on with the coaching?
We can't score to save our lives. Our midfield was appalling today. O'Kane and Partington are well short of the quality needed. Barnard was hopeless again today - I cannot see why he was chosen ahead of Tubbs.
But it is our style of play that is lacking. Mindless - simply mindless.
As for the Yobs that goaded EM ..... Protesting is one thing, but seeking to bait EM is disgraceful given all he has done. Have you all forgotten where we were. Looking at the yobs today most of the mouthy were still in nappys when he saved us!
EM has been misguided today and should know better, but turning on him shows mindlessness on the part of a few idiots.
Utciad
Other than spend money that isnt actually ACFB's money - what has Mitchell actually done for the club???
What a weak man Mitchell must be if he is so easily goaded by a group of young people.
Red&Black Cherry
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9:33pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Afcbpete
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9:40pm Sat 29 Sep 12
fieldyperu wrote:Mitchell IS the problem, yes he apparently brought Demin on board, but all he's done is feather the nest of his family/friends and himself. The last thing I want is the club going bust yet again, but it's on the cards the way it's going, so I say Mitchell MUST GO and IF the consequences are that Demin pulls the plug then so be it. However I'd hope Demin had more about him than that and takes the club on, because with the RIGHT manager and chairman running the club we can go places, but not with this shower!!!
If Mitchell's relationship with Demin goes wrong like it is likely to then we are stuffed. If demin wants out the whole club will come crashing down and we will go bankrupt again,
UTC
Afcb1986
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9:45pm Sat 29 Sep 12
G7dhkD8
new cherry
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9:45pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Red&Black Cherry wrote:A fool and his words are soon parted.
GROVES STAY- DENIM OUT! REDKNAPP OUT MITCHELL IN! Look at yourselves redknapp is messing us around and mitchell is the loyal one. What has denim actually done- given us money which has ruined us as a club. Teams look at us and use the excuse that we are rich when they lose (rarely) to use. UTCIAD
lockandload
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9:49pm Sat 29 Sep 12
We have an appalling failed manager that doesnt need more time(sorry Harry)
Then we have a half mad chairman with a drinking problem and a director of football who buys players from youtube who wont wait til the end of the match to leave.
I wish I woke up on monday morning and read Demin has bought the Michell mafia ...sorry family out and we can get OUR club back
new cherry
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9:53pm Sat 29 Sep 12
If he is on the level then why are his whole family on the payroll doing jobs they are not qUalified for
ifordcherry
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9:53pm Sat 29 Sep 12
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.............You absolute twwwwwwattttt
CC C-siders
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9:55pm Sat 29 Sep 12
susi.m wrote:What has he done - doh!
CC C-siders wrote:Gosh you are deluded and have a very short memory.
I sympathise with EM. He has done so much good for the club but presided over the loss of Eddie Howe - which he must now deeply regret as he should now realise how fortunate we were to have him - and then two clueless managers. But also a bunch of players that play well when televised, but can't be bothered most of he time.
What is going on with the coaching?
We can't score to save our lives. Our midfield was appalling today. O'Kane and Partington are well short of the quality needed. Barnard was hopeless again today - I cannot see why he was chosen ahead of Tubbs.
But it is our style of play that is lacking. Mindless - simply mindless.
As for the Yobs that goaded EM ..... Protesting is one thing, but seeking to bait EM is disgraceful given all he has done. Have you all forgotten where we were. Looking at the yobs today most of the mouthy were still in nappys when he saved us!
EM has been misguided today and should know better, but turning on him shows mindlessness on the part of a few idiots.
Utciad
Other than spend money that isnt actually ACFB's money - what has Mitchell actually done for the club???
What a weak man Mitchell must be if he is so easily goaded by a group of young people.
We are still here. The club would be dead without him. All the Howe years were a bonus delivered by EM. Where we're you when this was happening?
Agreed he should know better than being wound up by them.
But I'm grateful for all those brilliant years, the fantastic facilities we now have, the fact that record signings have been made, etc, etc. shame that the managers and players haven't delivered and sad that EM has lost his temper so many times.
lockandload
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9:56pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Just a thought?
Bobcat
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9:59pm Sat 29 Sep 12
stfcinbmth
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10:00pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Red&Black Cherry wrote:Oh dear oh dear talk about a club in turmoil. The problem starts at the top, Mitchell appointed the manager, so he's accountable, no one else I'm afraid. He's not got a good track record in managing any business so why you think he's a good choice for you is beyond me
GROVES STAY- DENIM OUT! REDKNAPP OUT MITCHELL IN! Look at yourselves redknapp is messing us around and mitchell is the loyal one. What has denim actually done- given us money which has ruined us as a club. Teams look at us and use the excuse that we are rich when they lose (rarely) to use. UTCIAD
Probably the best course of action is for the mystery Russian to take over the whole lot lock stock and barrel.
Mitchell will only drag you further into the mire
afcdibby
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10:01pm Sat 29 Sep 12
susi.m wrote:When they just signed david James. I think not.
It has been sugested that the club cannot afford to sack Groves at the moment.
paulhanlon
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10:04pm Sat 29 Sep 12
stfcinbmth
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10:07pm Sat 29 Sep 12
afcdibby wrote:He's local and out of work, why do you assume he's on top dollar?
susi.m wrote:When they just signed david James. I think not.
It has been sugested that the club cannot afford to sack Groves at the moment.
stfcinbmth
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10:08pm Sat 29 Sep 12
stfcinbmth wrote:Though, he's looking for a step into management ;)
afcdibby wrote:He's local and out of work, why do you assume he's on top dollar?
susi.m wrote:When they just signed david James. I think not.
It has been sugested that the club cannot afford to sack Groves at the moment.
new cherry
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10:13pm Sat 29 Sep 12
ifordcherry wrote:You have no idea what you are talking about
Eddie Mitchell has taken what was left of a dead club and given the people of Afc Bournemouth the foundations of a great football club. All that is needed is a proven Manager with experience of how to get out of this league.Im a Saints supporter and you have to experience things going wrong for experienced people to put right.The Russian did not just walk through the door.Eddie found him.Spend some money getting a manager not another player..............
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new cherry
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10:20pm Sat 29 Sep 12
matt68
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10:23pm Sat 29 Sep 12
lockandload wrote:no go away
Now when Atkins is sacked by the scummers would supporters be happy if he came to us as our new manager?
Just a thought?
stfcinbmth
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10:31pm Sat 29 Sep 12
ifordcherry wrote:Ifordcherry-Saints supporter and there was you trying to wind up this poor Swindon supporter the other week with his Oxford reserves taunts. Shame it didn't really work.
Eddie Mitchell has taken what was left of a dead club and given the people of Afc Bournemouth the foundations of a great football club. All that is needed is a proven Manager with experience of how to get out of this league.Im a Saints supporter and you have to experience things going wrong for experienced people to put right.The Russian did not just walk through the door.Eddie found him.Spend some money getting a manager not another player..............
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.............You absolute twwwwwwattttt
You sad git, you obviously know nothing about Mitchell
lockandload
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10:40pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Tomorrow I will ring Groves to meet me at Dean Court...sorry goldsands sadium where I will sack him.
Then I will ring HARRY and ask him what to do?????????????????
afcdibby
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10:42pm Sat 29 Sep 12
stfcinbmth wrote:I wouldn,t call Newton Abbott local. Local to Exeter and Torquay maybe, but not AFCB.
stfcinbmth wrote:Though, he's looking for a step into management ;)afcdibby wrote:He's local and out of work, why do you assume he's on top dollar?susi.m wrote: It has been sugested that the club cannot afford to sack Groves at the moment.When they just signed david James. I think not.
stfcinbmth
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10:46pm Sat 29 Sep 12
afcdibby wrote:Don't write it off ;)
stfcinbmth wrote:I wouldn,t call Newton Abbott local. Local to Exeter and Torquay maybe, but not AFCB.
stfcinbmth wrote:Though, he's looking for a step into management ;)afcdibby wrote:He's local and out of work, why do you assume he's on top dollar?susi.m wrote: It has been sugested that the club cannot afford to sack Groves at the moment.When they just signed david James. I think not.
GreatJon
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10:51pm Sat 29 Sep 12
lionheart
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11:06pm Sat 29 Sep 12
CC C-siders wrote:Those protesting were a cross section of fans across all age groups not yobs. I've supported AFCB since 1958 and I want to see the back of Mitchell, his family, Groves and Brooks.
I sympathise with EM. He has done so much good for the club but presided over the loss of Eddie Howe - which he must now deeply regret as he should now realise how fortunate we were to have him - and then two clueless managers. But also a bunch of players that play well when televised, but can't be bothered most of he time.
What is going on with the coaching?
We can't score to save our lives. Our midfield was appalling today. O'Kane and Partington are well short of the quality needed. Barnard was hopeless again today - I cannot see why he was chosen ahead of Tubbs.
But it is our style of play that is lacking. Mindless - simply mindless.
As for the Yobs that goaded EM ..... Protesting is one thing, but seeking to bait EM is disgraceful given all he has done. Have you all forgotten where we were. Looking at the yobs today most of the mouthy were still in nappys when he saved us!
EM has been misguided today and should know better, but turning on him shows mindlessness on the part of a few idiots.
Utciad
After Dorchester Town FC kicked out Mitchell and his entourage he saw an opportunity for him and the family at AFCB.
His interests came first rather than establishing the team on the pitch. Money we never had was spent in shed loads and because that put the club substantially insolvent the die was cast to sell off all the players which as a result saw Eddie Howe leave.
So what good has he done for the club? Spent a lot of money we never had on improving the ground which we don't own and now orchestrating wasting Demin's financial legacy.
It really is a crying shame that now we've had some financial assistance we have a useless chairman and manager.
Like a shiny apple the club might look appetising from the outside but the core is rotten.
Sadly under his tenure I fear we are only going to go backwards.
cheeriedriteup
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11:12pm Sat 29 Sep 12
afcb-mark
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11:14pm Sat 29 Sep 12
new cherry wrote:Iford Cherry is replying to the quote below, looks like he didn't press the quote button though. It's the guy below who's the saints supporter not Iford Cherry.
Interesting that someone calling themselves fiord cherry should be a Southampton fan.... Spot the Mitchell hanger on
GaryFendley says...
9:11pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Eddie Mitchell has taken what was left of a dead club and given the people of Afc Bournemouth the foundations of a great football club. All that is needed is a proven Manager with experience of how to get out of this league.Im a Saints supporter and you have to experience things going wrong for experienced people to put right.The Russian did not just walk through the door.Eddie found him.Spend some money getting a manager not another player.
El Che STFC
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11:14pm Sat 29 Sep 12
I just wanna say, with no disrespect to AFCB, as I think you are a great family club and proved that over years, your biggest problem at the moment is not Eddie Mitchell. I believe that you problem lies in the fact that you expect too much from your Club. I dont wanna comment on Gorves situation as to be fair I only watched you playing against us last week, and that was probably your worst performance this season, but I think that you need to get back to reality and realise the size of your club...YOU DNT HAVE POTENTIAL AS A CLUB TO BE SUSTAINABLE AT CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL...to be fair I doubt we have that potential and already think that we spent more money than we should at this level. Historically clubs like STFC and AFCB are 3rd tier club and its nice to be dreaming of doing Brighton, who experience fantastic uptern in thier fortunes, but fairytales not happen very often...Please start to be realistic and get behind your chairman. I believe you will stay up.
Julian Bournemouth
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11:19pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Red&Black Cherry wrote:Well said,not a mitchell fan but it's not his fault or anyone else.12 players are injured which does not help and their are showing no passion,Mr mitchell should behave in a better manner but no wonder he loses it when he does have the guts to try and address the situration.Paul Groves should be sacked though because he is the one that should be in control.
GROVES STAY- DENIM OUT! REDKNAPP OUT MITCHELL IN! Look at yourselves redknapp is messing us around and mitchell is the loyal one. What has denim actually done- given us money which has ruined us as a club. Teams look at us and use the excuse that we are rich when they lose (rarely) to use. UTCIAD
Bobcat
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11:26pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Julian Bournemouth wrote:Go to bed Tom or back to watching DVD's.
Red&Black Cherry wrote: GROVES STAY- DENIM OUT! REDKNAPP OUT MITCHELL IN! Look at yourselves redknapp is messing us around and mitchell is the loyal one. What has denim actually done- given us money which has ruined us as a club. Teams look at us and use the excuse that we are rich when they lose (rarely) to use. UTCIADWell said,not a mitchell fan but it's not his fault or anyone else.12 players are injured which does not help and their are showing no passion,Mr mitchell should behave in a better manner but no wonder he loses it when he does have the guts to try and address the situration.Paul Groves should be sacked though because he is the one that should be in control.
Julian Bournemouth
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11:28pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Mmmm not a good day for these guys lol
paulhanlon
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11:29pm Sat 29 Sep 12
El Che STFC wrote:You make some valid points but the truth is that with the money spent and the squad we have merely staying up Is not an achievement to be proud of.
I hardly ever comment on other teams forums but I will do it this time.
I just wanna say, with no disrespect to AFCB, as I think you are a great family club and proved that over years, your biggest problem at the moment is not Eddie Mitchell. I believe that you problem lies in the fact that you expect too much from your Club. I dont wanna comment on Gorves situation as to be fair I only watched you playing against us last week, and that was probably your worst performance this season, but I think that you need to get back to reality and realise the size of your club...YOU DNT HAVE POTENTIAL AS A CLUB TO BE SUSTAINABLE AT CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL...to be fair I doubt we have that potential and already think that we spent more money than we should at this level. Historically clubs like STFC and AFCB are 3rd tier club and its nice to be dreaming of doing Brighton, who experience fantastic uptern in thier fortunes, but fairytales not happen very often...Please start to be realistic and get behind your chairman. I believe you will stay up.
I believe afcb can get to championship and stay there. But even if you are right and we would struggle it does not mean we should not aspire for better things.
I believe play offs and promotion are realistic aims. Whether we could stay up is a different debate, one I am happy to have if and when it becomes an issue!
stfcinbmth
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11:36pm Sat 29 Sep 12
afcb-mark wrote:Yep I get it now, I did suggest he learnt how to quote last week when he was trying so hard to wind me up.
new cherry wrote:Iford Cherry is replying to the quote below, looks like he didn't press the quote button though. It's the guy below who's the saints supporter not Iford Cherry.
Interesting that someone calling themselves fiord cherry should be a Southampton fan.... Spot the Mitchell hanger on
GaryFendley says...
9:11pm Sat 29 Sep 12
Eddie Mitchell has taken what was left of a dead club and given the people of Afc Bournemouth the foundations of a great football club. All that is needed is a proven Manager with experience of how to get out of this league.Im a Saints supporter and you have to experience things going wrong for experienced people to put right.The Russian did not just walk through the door.Eddie found him.Spend some money getting a manager not another player.
Obviously it didn't sink in, thick twwwwwwattttt I'm quite embarrassed he lives near me now
lionheart
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11:40pm Sat 29 Sep 12
El Che STFC wrote:What do you know about the background of our club, Mitchell's businesses, his flirting with Dorchester Town FC and all that's gone on down here?
I hardly ever comment on other teams forums but I will do it this time.
I just wanna say, with no disrespect to AFCB, as I think you are a great family club and proved that over years, your biggest problem at the moment is not Eddie Mitchell. I believe that you problem lies in the fact that you expect too much from your Club. I dont wanna comment on Gorves situation as to be fair I only watched you playing against us last week, and that was probably your worst performance this season, but I think that you need to get back to reality and realise the size of your club...YOU DNT HAVE POTENTIAL AS A CLUB TO BE SUSTAINABLE AT CHAMPIONSHIP LEVEL...to be fair I doubt we have that potential and already think that we spent more money than we should at this level. Historically clubs like STFC and AFCB are 3rd tier club and its nice to be dreaming of doing Brighton, who experience fantastic uptern in thier fortunes, but fairytales not happen very often...Please start to be realistic and get behind your chairman. I believe you will stay up.
Mitchell is the problem.
When we had no money he racked up substantial debt improving a ground we don't own to keep his businesses going to the point that we were so insolvent that we systematically sold off a complete team, kicked out Joe Roach who had nurtured most of the younger players that we were forced to sell and fell out with Eddie Howe.
Now we have money, allegedly, he puts his son in as Director of Football and we commence spending money on players on top notch salaries and long contracts but puts in charge someone with a win ratio of bordering 20%. Groves has now won 3 games out of 20 odd in charge and hasn't a clue as to which players to play and is hell bent on a narrow diamond formation that last week your team ripped to shreds.
I could go on. We have only once been in the Championship and it's unrealistic to think that we should be there but money has been thrown at the squad this year and all we want is the players to entertain the fans. Our performances have been non league standard which isn't good enough.
Six managers have bit the dust this year. The way we are playing without leadership and de-motivated decent players I don't think we can wait another 10 games before we reach the same conclusion as now and part company with Groves.
Mitchell should have got it right when Eddie Howe left and appointed someone with football management experience.
gameon
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11:45pm Sat 29 Sep 12
TrueCherry wrote:Oh Right so have your Prayers been answered now then?? This is the mess you prayed for is it a Chairman whose better off having a fight behind the goal a Manager and Assistant who havnt got a clue at dealing with or motivating senior players a massive wage bill with declining Gates and a reputed £6 million loan .
The problem doesn't lie with Mitchell, instead, the Denim's. All of this trouble only started to rise once the Denim's arrived. Mitchell has put a lot of fortune into the club, I know on the pitch there needs to be some alterations...But lets not forget, four years ago we were praying for someone like him to come along.
goatty
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11:48pm Sat 29 Sep 12
sdlay2 wrote:Honest......Mitchell would not know the meaning of the word. Ask all the people he has ripped off
Wish people would stop having a go at Mitchell for no reason. He is not making the club a shambles, PG is. Anyone outside the stadium today would say that EM was honest and reasonable with what he said, and only flipped when some idiot started chucking things at him.
As for those having a go at Carmichael, he was our best player 2nd half by a country mile, would have him in for Partington next game if I were in charge (there should be a vacancy with any luck...)
goatty
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11:51pm Sat 29 Sep 12
GaryFendley wrote:Don't open your trap on something you do not know about. Mitchell did not find the Russian. Mitchell built a house for him and tricked him with all his lies into backing his football club.
Eddie Mitchell has taken what was left of a dead club and given the people of Afc Bournemouth the foundations of a great football club. All that is needed is a proven Manager with experience of how to get out of this league.Im a Saints supporter and you have to experience things going wrong for experienced people to put right.The Russian did not just walk through the door.Eddie found him.Spend some money getting a manager not another player.
goatty
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12:01am Sun 30 Sep 12
Surely it is time for him to go. No manager with any respect would put up with it, and no Chairman with any credentials in football would do it
jimbob24
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12:49am Sun 30 Sep 12
thesouthend
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1:13am Sun 30 Sep 12
kangman2012
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3:37am Sun 30 Sep 12
ASM
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4:30am Sun 30 Sep 12
But having your son as director of football and your mate and brother in law as manager and assistant manager is taking the pi$$. If you were chairman of a club like Bournemouth would you do that??????? no way!
b26b
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6:33am Sun 30 Sep 12
ASM wrote:If you think you would ge away with it like EM has seemed to have done nut just at AFCB but at many of his buisness interests
at least the fans got some entertainment at the end of the game. To be fair to Mitchell, he conducted himself well for a change. It's not only groves who is going to be forced out through fans pressure, but eddie too, unless tom steps down and they let football people run the club,.
But having your son as director of football and your mate and brother in law as manager and assistant manager is taking the pi$$. If you were chairman of a club like Bournemouth would you do that??????? no way!
Nat1234
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8:00am Sun 30 Sep 12
Cambs Cherry
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8:05am Sun 30 Sep 12
the afcb fan
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8:08am Sun 30 Sep 12
new cherry wrote:Yes very foolish as they don't support the club, they are just troublemakers with an excuse. It is they that pour shame on our club
YafcbY wrote: The reputation of our club is in the pits due to our own miserable supporters.Not the supporters... That is a foolish thing to say
Fred Luton
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8:18am Sun 30 Sep 12
I said in the beginning that Mitchell would leave AFCB in a worst state than he picked it up in and it does appear that this could well be the case.
The club will not have the great atmoshere it used to have untill Mitchell and his family leave the club.
As someone mentioned a while ago Mitchells aim in the beginning was to use the club to help fund him and his families life style eg cars, salaries, food and drink etc etc
Fred Luton
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8:25am Sun 30 Sep 12
the afcb fan wrote:I am not a trouble maker. I am a middle ages person who has never had more that a SP30. I have a job and no debts. Both my children have good jobs and engineering degrees.
new cherry wrote:Yes very foolish as they don't support the club, they are just troublemakers with an excuse. It is they that pour shame on our club
YafcbY wrote: The reputation of our club is in the pits due to our own miserable supporters.Not the supporters... That is a foolish thing to say
I am just not deluded about Mitchells. I cant bare that fact that Mitchell regulary embarrasses our club and is making AFCB a laughing stock. Those of us who attend games and who have season tickets are the paying customer so we have a right to get good customer services and a good product. We are not getting that at present. We have a right to protest in what ever legal way we choose.
I am still amazed that some people still cant see what Mitchell is really like and why he came to AFCB in the first place. He is not a football man.
You will see it eventually.
Nat1234
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8:31am Sun 30 Sep 12
the afcb fan wrote:What are you on about ? People pay good money to watch this cr.p football being played .. They have got every rite to complain if they want to .. To me it says they feel passion towards our club ... It's people like you who just pay their money and say nothing .. YOU ARE NOT A TRUE SUPPORTER .. Not the people who demonstrate ..
new cherry wrote:Yes very foolish as they don't support the club, they are just troublemakers with an excuse. It is they that pour shame on our club
YafcbY wrote: The reputation of our club is in the pits due to our own miserable supporters.Not the supporters... That is a foolish thing to say
Ferngully
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9:08am Sun 30 Sep 12
CC C-siders
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9:40am Sun 30 Sep 12
lionheart wrote:What good has he done for the club? What planet are you on?
CC C-siders wrote:Those protesting were a cross section of fans across all age groups not yobs. I've supported AFCB since 1958 and I want to see the back of Mitchell, his family, Groves and Brooks.
I sympathise with EM. He has done so much good for the club but presided over the loss of Eddie Howe - which he must now deeply regret as he should now realise how fortunate we were to have him - and then two clueless managers. But also a bunch of players that play well when televised, but can't be bothered most of he time.
What is going on with the coaching?
We can't score to save our lives. Our midfield was appalling today. O'Kane and Partington are well short of the quality needed. Barnard was hopeless again today - I cannot see why he was chosen ahead of Tubbs.
But it is our style of play that is lacking. Mindless - simply mindless.
As for the Yobs that goaded EM ..... Protesting is one thing, but seeking to bait EM is disgraceful given all he has done. Have you all forgotten where we were. Looking at the yobs today most of the mouthy were still in nappys when he saved us!
EM has been misguided today and should know better, but turning on him shows mindlessness on the part of a few idiots.
Utciad
After Dorchester Town FC kicked out Mitchell and his entourage he saw an opportunity for him and the family at AFCB.
His interests came first rather than establishing the team on the pitch. Money we never had was spent in shed loads and because that put the club substantially insolvent the die was cast to sell off all the players which as a result saw Eddie Howe leave.
So what good has he done for the club? Spent a lot of money we never had on improving the ground which we don't own and now orchestrating wasting Demin's financial legacy.
It really is a crying shame that now we've had some financial assistance we have a useless chairman and manager.
Like a shiny apple the club might look appetising from the outside but the core is rotten.
Sadly under his tenure I fear we are only going to go backwards.
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I don't blame anyone for complaining about Groves management, the awful performance by the players or EMs mistakes, but at least credit EM with having the guts to try to talk to fans and explain.
The sad thing is the total disrespect shown to him by a few moronic idiots who cannot have the best interests of AFCB at heart.
If EM and the Russians walk which one of you idiots is going to come forward to save the club this time around. You think putting a few quid into a collection will do it? Brainless.
Just try to think bigger picture - it may be difficult for you minority.
EM has made loads of mistakes - loads - but no one can ever claim he doesn't have the interests of AFCB at heart - and, yes, his interests as well.
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And who are the members of EMs entourage that seemed to find it amusing?
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Stick with it Eddie - but for heavens sack seem some advice from people that understand football and PR.
alasdair1967
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9:45am Sun 30 Sep 12
Nat1234
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9:50am Sun 30 Sep 12
CC C-siders wrote:Stick with Eddie LOL your having a real laugh ,,, he hasn't got a clue about football . If we like you say stick with him where are we going to go ? I will tell you back in league 2 .. He's got a manager who hasn't got a clue sorry a FAILED manager.. If he loves the club he would of sacked him by now ,, and it might not be MITCHELL'S people laughing but it is certainly the football world that are laughing at us .. And AFCB have got no PR whatsoever .so who ever you are ? Just try and see what is happening to our club,,
lionheart wrote:What good has he done for the club? What planet are you on?
CC C-siders wrote:Those protesting were a cross section of fans across all age groups not yobs. I've supported AFCB since 1958 and I want to see the back of Mitchell, his family, Groves and Brooks.
I sympathise with EM. He has done so much good for the club but presided over the loss of Eddie Howe - which he must now deeply regret as he should now realise how fortunate we were to have him - and then two clueless managers. But also a bunch of players that play well when televised, but can't be bothered most of he time.
What is going on with the coaching?
We can't score to save our lives. Our midfield was appalling today. O'Kane and Partington are well short of the quality needed. Barnard was hopeless again today - I cannot see why he was chosen ahead of Tubbs.
But it is our style of play that is lacking. Mindless - simply mindless.
As for the Yobs that goaded EM ..... Protesting is one thing, but seeking to bait EM is disgraceful given all he has done. Have you all forgotten where we were. Looking at the yobs today most of the mouthy were still in nappys when he saved us!
EM has been misguided today and should know better, but turning on him shows mindlessness on the part of a few idiots.
Utciad
After Dorchester Town FC kicked out Mitchell and his entourage he saw an opportunity for him and the family at AFCB.
His interests came first rather than establishing the team on the pitch. Money we never had was spent in shed loads and because that put the club substantially insolvent the die was cast to sell off all the players which as a result saw Eddie Howe leave.
So what good has he done for the club? Spent a lot of money we never had on improving the ground which we don't own and now orchestrating wasting Demin's financial legacy.
It really is a crying shame that now we've had some financial assistance we have a useless chairman and manager.
Like a shiny apple the club might look appetising from the outside but the core is rotten.
Sadly under his tenure I fear we are only going to go backwards.
.
I don't blame anyone for complaining about Groves management, the awful performance by the players or EMs mistakes, but at least credit EM with having the guts to try to talk to fans and explain.
The sad thing is the total disrespect shown to him by a few moronic idiots who cannot have the best interests of AFCB at heart.
If EM and the Russians walk which one of you idiots is going to come forward to save the club this time around. You think putting a few quid into a collection will do it? Brainless.
Just try to think bigger picture - it may be difficult for you minority.
EM has made loads of mistakes - loads - but no one can ever claim he doesn't have the interests of AFCB at heart - and, yes, his interests as well.
.
And who are the members of EMs entourage that seemed to find it amusing?
.
Stick with it Eddie - but for heavens sack seem some advice from people that understand football and PR.
umpcah
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10:02am Sun 30 Sep 12
CC C-siders
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10:08am Sun 30 Sep 12
alasdair1967 wrote:Agreed.
Let me get one thing clear Groves must go and go now,however I think EM was extremely brave to confront the mob yesterday from what I have heard he initially conducted himself well however when you are confronted by an angry mob your composure can rapidly slip ,EM is a builder come good so as we all know, they are all renowned for there effing and jeffing so it was inevitable for the swearing to start once goaded enough .however mr Mitchell you to sort this now the players lack confidence under groves and the negativity coming from the terraces is clearly effecting there composure on the field of play ,the passion is being sucked from the club and the only way for it to return will be the appointment of a new manager who can reinstall the confidence in both the players and supporters ACT NOW before its too late
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I can see no evidence that Groves/ Brooks have any understanding of the problem here. They have demonstrated many times their lack of any tactical understanding and yesterday we saw it very clearly.
We didn't know much about the new boys until yesterday but it really looks like more of the same.
In midfield there was no creativity. There is only one such player here, which is Arter, who often fails to perform. We had no ball winner, the likes of Bartley, Hollands, Browning etc. Partington is not right for this role -
Though I really think Zubar could be that man. Foggy is a worker and is a good option. Carmichael looked impressive but I felt very sorry for him having to come on yesterday.
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We do not need any more strikers, just get a coach than can get the guys we have to perform - and play a style that supports them.
Why did Wes score yesterday but can't put a foot right for us. 1 goal in 22 says more about our coaching failings than him as a player I suspect. I would rather see a 40 year old Fletch play as he at least as the desire, desire and vocl presence to kick these butts of this side of individuals.
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Stick with it EM. Just bring in some proven football management expertise. Getting rid now will be costly. Steve Cottrill is your man!
paulhanlon
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10:10am Sun 30 Sep 12
CC C-siders wrote:Some on here are interested in an open debate. Those whose leanings are both pro and anti Mitchell. But there are also those who will never concede em has done right.
lionheart wrote:What good has he done for the club? What planet are you on?
CC C-siders wrote:Those protesting were a cross section of fans across all age groups not yobs. I've supported AFCB since 1958 and I want to see the back of Mitchell, his family, Groves and Brooks.
I sympathise with EM. He has done so much good for the club but presided over the loss of Eddie Howe - which he must now deeply regret as he should now realise how fortunate we were to have him - and then two clueless managers. But also a bunch of players that play well when televised, but can't be bothered most of he time.
What is going on with the coaching?
We can't score to save our lives. Our midfield was appalling today. O'Kane and Partington are well short of the quality needed. Barnard was hopeless again today - I cannot see why he was chosen ahead of Tubbs.
But it is our style of play that is lacking. Mindless - simply mindless.
As for the Yobs that goaded EM ..... Protesting is one thing, but seeking to bait EM is disgraceful given all he has done. Have you all forgotten where we were. Looking at the yobs today most of the mouthy were still in nappys when he saved us!
EM has been misguided today and should know better, but turning on him shows mindlessness on the part of a few idiots.
Utciad
After Dorchester Town FC kicked out Mitchell and his entourage he saw an opportunity for him and the family at AFCB.
His interests came first rather than establishing the team on the pitch. Money we never had was spent in shed loads and because that put the club substantially insolvent the die was cast to sell off all the players which as a result saw Eddie Howe leave.
So what good has he done for the club? Spent a lot of money we never had on improving the ground which we don't own and now orchestrating wasting Demin's financial legacy.
It really is a crying shame that now we've had some financial assistance we have a useless chairman and manager.
Like a shiny apple the club might look appetising from the outside but the core is rotten.
Sadly under his tenure I fear we are only going to go backwards.
.
I don't blame anyone for complaining about Groves management, the awful performance by the players or EMs mistakes, but at least credit EM with having the guts to try to talk to fans and explain.
The sad thing is the total disrespect shown to him by a few moronic idiots who cannot have the best interests of AFCB at heart.
If EM and the Russians walk which one of you idiots is going to come forward to save the club this time around. You think putting a few quid into a collection will do it? Brainless.
Just try to think bigger picture - it may be difficult for you minority.
EM has made loads of mistakes - loads - but no one can ever claim he doesn't have the interests of AFCB at heart - and, yes, his interests as well.
.
And who are the members of EMs entourage that seemed to find it amusing?
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Stick with it Eddie - but for heavens sack seem some advice from people that understand football and PR.
They seem to know things I don't about his background. I accept they feel they have cause to doubt his motives.
Problem is that as long as those people think it is legitimate argument to simply slag off those who want to debate properly they not only undmine their own argument but all meaningful debate.
So asking people to acknowledge or credit anything you may as well try making water run up hill.
And on the same score they will most definitly claim he does not have afcb interests at heart.
At the moment I think he does. But my patience is wearing thin whilst I can not understand why he persists with this twice failed manager.
Square Old Codger
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10:25am Sun 30 Sep 12
lionheart wrote:Demin hasn't too much to lose should he walk away and seek to get his money back, part of it is secured, the rest he would treat as a bad debt and offset against tax, it would put the Club into an impossible position though and it could easily be the end for it. I find some of the comments on Mitchell amusing, though it's sad to that some still regard him as a saviour and ignore the facts, he has never run a successful business - all seem to end in failure, it was his failure to control expenditure , as he had promised - remember his promise that we would live within the Club's income,,, essential because neither he or any other Board member had money to invest in the Club? All the assurances that things were going well and we were in a sound financial position. Only to find out when the Accounts were published that the Club was insolvent and that the Board had agreed months before to sell off the team Eddie Howe had build at little cost. All this necessary in spite of a big increase in income as a result of the best gates for years.We are almost certain to be in a similar situation now, a huge increase in costs, a massive build up of debt and a plunging income as support drifts away from the Club. Eddie Mitchell, yesterday indicated that his support for Groves would continue, and I give him credit for coming out to address a group of angry supporters, that shewed guts. He is not a football man though and fails to understand that all supporters want to see is a decent, entertaining game and that they are the life blood of a Club and without them , the Club will die. As it is that life blood is draining away as more and more stay away from Dean Court. yesterday saw the lowest League gate since the new stadium was opened.Demin is the key, but just how interested is he in the Club and does he want to become involved in it's management, he could force the Mitchell's out should he want to - or he could just wash his hands of it al and walk away. The next couple of weeks could be vital. .
fieldyperu wrote: If Mitchell's relationship with Demin goes wrong like it is likely to then we are stuffed. If demin wants out the whole club will come crashing down and we will go bankrupt again, UTCDemin is a secured creditor as his company hold a debenture and a mortgage over a portion of land not subject to the sale and leaseback. There's no way he could have his money back so he would have to liquidate us or put a receiver in depending on what Structadene's response would be if we failed to pay the rent.
lionheart
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10:26am Sun 30 Sep 12
CC C-siders wrote:I'm afraid if Edmund and his family stay with AFCB , as Sgt Pike used to say, 'We're doomed'
alasdair1967 wrote:Agreed.
Let me get one thing clear Groves must go and go now,however I think EM was extremely brave to confront the mob yesterday from what I have heard he initially conducted himself well however when you are confronted by an angry mob your composure can rapidly slip ,EM is a builder come good so as we all know, they are all renowned for there effing and jeffing so it was inevitable for the swearing to start once goaded enough .however mr Mitchell you to sort this now the players lack confidence under groves and the negativity coming from the terraces is clearly effecting there composure on the field of play ,the passion is being sucked from the club and the only way for it to return will be the appointment of a new manager who can reinstall the confidence in both the players and supporters ACT NOW before its too late
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I can see no evidence that Groves/ Brooks have any understanding of the problem here. They have demonstrated many times their lack of any tactical understanding and yesterday we saw it very clearly.
We didn't know much about the new boys until yesterday but it really looks like more of the same.
In midfield there was no creativity. There is only one such player here, which is Arter, who often fails to perform. We had no ball winner, the likes of Bartley, Hollands, Browning etc. Partington is not right for this role -
Though I really think Zubar could be that man. Foggy is a worker and is a good option. Carmichael looked impressive but I felt very sorry for him having to come on yesterday.
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We do not need any more strikers, just get a coach than can get the guys we have to perform - and play a style that supports them.
Why did Wes score yesterday but can't put a foot right for us. 1 goal in 22 says more about our coaching failings than him as a player I suspect. I would rather see a 40 year old Fletch play as he at least as the desire, desire and vocl presence to kick these butts of this side of individuals.
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Stick with it EM. Just bring in some proven football management expertise. Getting rid now will be costly. Steve Cottrill is your man!
Just shows what a lack of judgement he has and lack a football brain to have appointed Bradbury and now Groves in the first place.
To sort this can of worms out we need someone like Billy Davies to come in as manager or for Demin to buy out the Mitchell's, send them packing and invite Harry Redknapp to become a minority shareholder and Director of Football.
Then we might see the return of wingers and entertainment on the pitch.
The only entertainment for the fans at the moment is the circus off the pitch!
Afcbpete
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10:29am Sun 30 Sep 12
Nat1234 wrote:I have to admit Mitchell in a video I watched certainly in the first instance conducted himself very well and fair play to him on coming out to the fans. What REALLY made me laugh, you could hear some voices saying we love you Eddie (Mitchell), exactly what planet THEY are on God knows, unless it was young Tom and some mates, although he'd long gone by this time LOL...
CC C-siders wrote:Stick with Eddie LOL your having a real laugh ,,, he hasn't got a clue about football . If we like you say stick with him where are we going to go ? I will tell you back in league 2 .. He's got a manager who hasn't got a clue sorry a FAILED manager.. If he loves the club he would of sacked him by now ,, and it might not be MITCHELL'S people laughing but it is certainly the football world that are laughing at us .. And AFCB have got no PR whatsoever .so who ever you are ? Just try and see what is happening to our club,,
lionheart wrote:What good has he done for the club? What planet are you on?
CC C-siders wrote:Those protesting were a cross section of fans across all age groups not yobs. I've supported AFCB since 1958 and I want to see the back of Mitchell, his family, Groves and Brooks.
I sympathise with EM. He has done so much good for the club but presided over the loss of Eddie Howe - which he must now deeply regret as he should now realise how fortunate we were to have him - and then two clueless managers. But also a bunch of players that play well when televised, but can't be bothered most of he time.
What is going on with the coaching?
We can't score to save our lives. Our midfield was appalling today. O'Kane and Partington are well short of the quality needed. Barnard was hopeless again today - I cannot see why he was chosen ahead of Tubbs.
But it is our style of play that is lacking. Mindless - simply mindless.
As for the Yobs that goaded EM ..... Protesting is one thing, but seeking to bait EM is disgraceful given all he has done. Have you all forgotten where we were. Looking at the yobs today most of the mouthy were still in nappys when he saved us!
EM has been misguided today and should know better, but turning on him shows mindlessness on the part of a few idiots.
Utciad
After Dorchester Town FC kicked out Mitchell and his entourage he saw an opportunity for him and the family at AFCB.
His interests came first rather than establishing the team on the pitch. Money we never had was spent in shed loads and because that put the club substantially insolvent the die was cast to sell off all the players which as a result saw Eddie Howe leave.
So what good has he done for the club? Spent a lot of money we never had on improving the ground which we don't own and now orchestrating wasting Demin's financial legacy.
It really is a crying shame that now we've had some financial assistance we have a useless chairman and manager.
Like a shiny apple the club might look appetising from the outside but the core is rotten.
Sadly under his tenure I fear we are only going to go backwards.
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I don't blame anyone for complaining about Groves management, the awful performance by the players or EMs mistakes, but at least credit EM with having the guts to try to talk to fans and explain.
The sad thing is the total disrespect shown to him by a few moronic idiots who cannot have the best interests of AFCB at heart.
If EM and the Russians walk which one of you idiots is going to come forward to save the club this time around. You think putting a few quid into a collection will do it? Brainless.
Just try to think bigger picture - it may be difficult for you minority.
EM has made loads of mistakes - loads - but no one can ever claim he doesn't have the interests of AFCB at heart - and, yes, his interests as well.
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And who are the members of EMs entourage that seemed to find it amusing?
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Stick with it Eddie - but for heavens sack seem some advice from people that understand football and PR.
That aside, Mitchell HAS to go, and take all his cronies with him and your right Lionheart in all you say, enough is enough, I'd sooner we went back into Administration and all that might bring so long as it means Mitchell going. However, as I've said before, I HOPE Maxim buys him out, because as soon as we have a DECENT manager and people in charge who actually have the club at heart and not their best interests first, THEN I'm sure the fans will come back in numbers. But a lot of damage has been done now and it won't change overnight. GO MITCHELL and take your rabble with you!!!!
kenbaileysteeth
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10:32am Sun 30 Sep 12
redster
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10:33am Sun 30 Sep 12
smirg kcab
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Call 0800106 107 now
I said call 0800106107 now
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Mitchell hates di canio we hate bollmuff
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If all you still put your money on us at 12/1 you could have bought the club yourselfs.
Always in our shadow just like poxford.
Arry will screww you lot like he did with Pompey. How much is James on a week????
Ben haim. And kanu for you
We are paolos red and white army
Shuuush don't tell Mitchell.
Keep our division laughing.
Red army 4-0 to the championees
kenbaileysteeth
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10:37am Sun 30 Sep 12
Mitchells out
Accountants in
Any hole's a goal
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10:39am Sun 30 Sep 12
Warwickshire Red
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10:40am Sun 30 Sep 12
It's clear to me that there is a bigger picture which will be more evident once the dust settles on this embarrasing events. All these emotions displayed by your management and board are the result of the realisation that unless you get promoted this season your are in deep deep trouble and worse still, Lg 2 football will kill your club. They are all playing Russian roulette with your football club but there is only one empty chamber in the gun. We suffered from this in the past ourselves but now we are lucky enough to have a manager / board working together in a strategic manner. Your board and managment are nieve to try to adress the fans but I fear they have spun a pretty complicated web which will difficult to unpick.
Good luck because you will need it.
moorsman70
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10:47am Sun 30 Sep 12
CC C-siders
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10:47am Sun 30 Sep 12
EM has presided over substantial improvements in that - no question. But he has made some awful football decisions, and especially PR!
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But those who remember the past owners and problems must also recall that the long awaited white knight never appeared. Never - unless you remember that last gasp saviour, EM. We were finished before that.
Who do people now expect to take over? Maybe the Russians, but if you were in their shoes with the pathetic performances and seeing how the current Chairman is treated would you stik with afcb or look elsewhere?
Be realistic and practical
I hope the person that threw the programme is tracked down and appropriate action taken.
sea poole
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10:53am Sun 30 Sep 12
afcb-mark
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10:55am Sun 30 Sep 12
If anyone was to come out and explain their failures it should have been Groves and Brooks. They are gutless and taking money under false pretences as they couldn't manage an under 8s team successfully.
So Mitchell stormed the changing room again yesterday. No wonder the players have no respect for any of them. He is his own worst enemy and although the ground looks nice (done by his other companies) the ultimate purpose of the club has been lost. Did the club have any of the problems when EH was manager. No because win lose or draw there was heart and pride at the club. Where has it all gone Eddie?
devon fan
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10:57am Sun 30 Sep 12
gameon
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11:07am Sun 30 Sep 12
££ in Mitchells case he tried telling us the true long time supporters that he was a life long Cherries Fan," yea right" Via Dorchester Town,and a brief show of interest in Weymouth FC. Please correct me genuine supporters i have never seen or heard of him at our club prior to all this have any of you???.I beleive he has dug his own grave this time there will be a massive drop in attendance for home games and he will not be able to survive financially The Fans will have there Day and THIS CLUB WILL STILL BE HERE free of Rubbish to rise again.
alasdair1967
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11:09am Sun 30 Sep 12
Football banning order yob
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11:11am Sun 30 Sep 12
Despite pleas from fans Mitchell suggested he will not be sacking dumb n dumber any time soon.
Little Tom should face the fans rather than run off like a scalded dog he's responsible for signing the over paid passionless players.
Would rather have the likes of warren Cummings who actually looked like he cared.
Groves n brooks out!
pete woodley
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11:22am Sun 30 Sep 12
Any hole's a goal wrote:Does using the F word make you feel like a man ?.
If you look at the full video on vital-bournemouth, you will see that EM was perfectly reasonable. Some of the fans wouldn't SHUT THE F' UP so we got no decent answers from EM. Poor one sided Echo reporting once again.
Football banning order yob
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11:22am Sun 30 Sep 12
alasdair1967 wrote:Angry mob?? Ha you need to get out more if you think that was anger mate, I was there, were you?? If that was millwall or west ham then you'd have seen anger.
A lot of people are saying EM was an embarrassment yesterday the problem for him is he is damned if he does damned if he does not if he had not come out to confront the mob he would have been branded a coward ,it takes a lot of guts to confront an angry mob at least he had the balls to face that mob at lot of you need to look in the mirror and ask yourselfs placed in that scenario what would you have done the same .as I said earlier given the circumstances EM actually conducted himself well there where people in that crowd unprepared to listen to reason
alasdair1967
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11:25am Sun 30 Sep 12
Football banning order yob wrote:On paper we have a fantastic squad sadly the reason they are passionless is down to a manager unable to inspire them it is not helping matters with the lack of support I'm sure they players feel the friction coming from the terrace and is evident for them to see with the falling gates each week the players need are support but with groves remaining in charge the passion is being sucked from the terrace
Mitchell came out yesterday to speak with fans.. The usual little chavs with the mouth and nothing to back it up were the ones who riled him with foul mouthed abuse, saying that Dave Roberts and the hangers on found it all funny laughing n pointing!
Despite pleas from fans Mitchell suggested he will not be sacking dumb n dumber any time soon.
Little Tom should face the fans rather than run off like a scalded dog he's responsible for signing the over paid passionless players.
Would rather have the likes of warren Cummings who actually looked like he cared.
Groves n brooks out!
alasdair1967
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11:30am Sun 30 Sep 12
Football banning order yob wrote:At least he had the balls to face them and not cower in the boardroom ,his mistake was he allowed himself to be goaded but he saw sense and left before it got out of hand !
alasdair1967 wrote:Angry mob?? Ha you need to get out more if you think that was anger mate, I was there, were you?? If that was millwall or west ham then you'd have seen anger.
A lot of people are saying EM was an embarrassment yesterday the problem for him is he is damned if he does damned if he does not if he had not come out to confront the mob he would have been branded a coward ,it takes a lot of guts to confront an angry mob at least he had the balls to face that mob at lot of you need to look in the mirror and ask yourselfs placed in that scenario what would you have done the same .as I said earlier given the circumstances EM actually conducted himself well there where people in that crowd unprepared to listen to reason
raypike
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11:33am Sun 30 Sep 12
raypike
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11:39am Sun 30 Sep 12
boby
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12:04pm Sun 30 Sep 12
jacko225
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12:10pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Credit to EM for coming out and facing the fans - it's a shame that the fans didn't let him speak and couldn't hear him.
When he told the fan to "f**k off", he was responding with the same message that the fan said to him - wouldn't you react in a similar way?
And the fan that threw the program should be ashamed of themselves, they are a disgrace.
I'm pleased EM gave the fans a chance to listen to him and ask him questions, it's just a shame that some of the fans there didn't let him speak, while the others couldn't hear him.
pete woodley
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12:11pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Afcbpete
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12:19pm Sun 30 Sep 12
boby wrote:All Mitchell has done is feather his own nest. There was absolutely no need to spend all he has on building works straight away, better to of waited until we had actually achieved promotion and THEN spend. Now we're stuck with a huge LOAN, not investment and we're back to where we were if not in a worse position financially before Mitchell turned up. As I've already said, I give him credit for coming out and trying to talk to fans, they only wanted to hear one thing and that was Groves/Brooks were on their way, he had that chance and never took it. For me it was last chance saloon and Mitchell simply has to go with all his hangers on.
Well I think eddie has done well in the forms of business in retrospect to the club and it's building and development side of the club. It's just that he is a fish out of water when it comes to the diplomacy side of the game . He struggles to make decisions in man management and gets involved in parts of the club which are his weaknesses. He would be better leaving the development of the team contract issues and further negotiations to somebody who understands it. Whilst he keeps in the business side of things looking at the profit and loss side growing of the business and . Keeping the wheels on the bus going round and away from confrontations that damage the club even though he is putting his view across. Its obvious eddie goes not trust anyone , by his appointing of Tom , Shaun etc and groves . He needs to move away from the decision making and appoint somebody more aware of what it takes to run a football . Eddie look after the development side and the nuts and bolts , and bringing investment on board .
alasdair1967
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12:20pm Sun 30 Sep 12
pete woodley wrote:Get a life you idiot ! Typical troll comment go find your rock and return under it
Alastair1967,has to be a close friend,or family,with all the claptrap he comes out with.
paulhanlon
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12:21pm Sun 30 Sep 12
pete woodley wrote:Childish retort regularly made to discredit anyone who dares to disagree with the anti Mitchell agenda.
Alastair1967,has to be a close friend,or family,with all the claptrap he comes out with.
alasdair1967
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12:25pm Sun 30 Sep 12
alasdair1967 wrote:All I said was I have respect for the man for facing his critics lesser people would have cowered in the boardroom ,but the problem is idiots like you who automatically call people who support the man either a relative or friend of the man ,wake up and smell the coffee !
pete woodley wrote:Get a life you idiot ! Typical troll comment go find your rock and return under it
Alastair1967,has to be a close friend,or family,with all the claptrap he comes out with.
pete woodley
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12:31pm Sun 30 Sep 12
afcb-mark
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12:32pm Sun 30 Sep 12
paulhanlon
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12:38pm Sun 30 Sep 12
pete woodley wrote:Not that new. Been on here about 2 years. Just have no agenda to ram down people's throats so not as frequent a contributor as yourself.
Notice alisdairs language is just like Eddies.We can expect a few of his cronies to come on here and back him.I wonder where they all drink ?.Who the heck is paul hanlon,big opinion of himself,obvious new boy.
Most people on here are capable of intelligent debate. Slagging people off for disagreeing with you is not intelligent it is a form of fascism.
Various people keep referring to em's "other" businesses as their reason for distrusting him. I know nothing about these but no one ever elaborates.
alasdair1967
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12:39pm Sun 30 Sep 12
afcb-mark wrote:How much would all the work actually have cost if had not been done in house ?
I agree with everyone who says the ground looks better. We now have nice training pitches, nice car park and lots of building work done everywhere you look, but.....would all of this had been done if Mitchell did not have his own companies doing it. I doubt it very much, he and his family have benefited financially from it all. That's done and dusted now and he needs to move away from that and start thinking more about the football. Nothing will change until he does.
fletch for manager
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12:49pm Sun 30 Sep 12
alasdair1967 wrote:alot less im sure
afcb-mark wrote:How much would all the work actually have cost if had not been done in house ?
I agree with everyone who says the ground looks better. We now have nice training pitches, nice car park and lots of building work done everywhere you look, but.....would all of this had been done if Mitchell did not have his own companies doing it. I doubt it very much, he and his family have benefited financially from it all. That's done and dusted now and he needs to move away from that and start thinking more about the football. Nothing will change until he does.
Afcbpete
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12:50pm Sun 30 Sep 12
alasdair1967 wrote:We will never know what the cost was. But it was not all required now, it could and should of waited until we could afford it. All it's done is rack up our debt including interest payments. It's what happens on the pitch that will bring in the fans, not new training pitches/car parks. Also why was Mitchell always in such a rush to keep adding to the list of works?? Pretty obvious to me, to keep his guys gainfully employed at the expense of the club!!
afcb-mark wrote:How much would all the work actually have cost if had not been done in house ?
I agree with everyone who says the ground looks better. We now have nice training pitches, nice car park and lots of building work done everywhere you look, but.....would all of this had been done if Mitchell did not have his own companies doing it. I doubt it very much, he and his family have benefited financially from it all. That's done and dusted now and he needs to move away from that and start thinking more about the football. Nothing will change until he does.
alasdair1967
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12:52pm Sun 30 Sep 12
paulhanlon wrote:The problem with woodley is if you have anything positive to say about EM then you are immediately called either family member or close friend he has the audacity to call be childish for my retort very much pot calling kettle black !
pete woodley wrote:Not that new. Been on here about 2 years. Just have no agenda to ram down people's throats so not as frequent a contributor as yourself.
Notice alisdairs language is just like Eddies.We can expect a few of his cronies to come on here and back him.I wonder where they all drink ?.Who the heck is paul hanlon,big opinion of himself,obvious new boy.
Most people on here are capable of intelligent debate. Slagging people off for disagreeing with you is not intelligent it is a form of fascism.
Various people keep referring to em's "other" businesses as their reason for distrusting him. I know nothing about these but no one ever elaborates.
alasdair1967
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12:55pm Sun 30 Sep 12
fletch for manager wrote:The thing is we will never know ,at the end of the day the work should have been put out to tender
alasdair1967 wrote:alot less im sure
afcb-mark wrote:How much would all the work actually have cost if had not been done in house ?
I agree with everyone who says the ground looks better. We now have nice training pitches, nice car park and lots of building work done everywhere you look, but.....would all of this had been done if Mitchell did not have his own companies doing it. I doubt it very much, he and his family have benefited financially from it all. That's done and dusted now and he needs to move away from that and start thinking more about the football. Nothing will change until he does.
pete woodley
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12:55pm Sun 30 Sep 12
alasdair1967
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1:10pm Sun 30 Sep 12
alasdair1967
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1:13pm Sun 30 Sep 12
alasdair1967 wrote:That is why I have no issue with Mitchell using his own assets to do work at the ground it's called business sense
In business why employ someone to do a job that your own work force could do for a fraction of the cost ? Having been recently been involved with a business premise move we as company employees did the brunt of the move by ourselves as for our boss to hire a third party would have made the move financially impossible
Afcbpete
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1:15pm Sun 30 Sep 12
pete woodley wrote:Pete you will always have some who still choose to believe everything Mitchell does, it's THEIR choice, it's a real shame theyr'e so taken in but who am I or you to insult them because they have a different belief. Undoubtedly there are certainly quite a number who are linked in someway to Mitchell springing up on here and successfully winding some of us up, but let them, I take little notice of them and it only convinces me more of my take on the situation. alasdair1967 is right though IMHO on his view of Mitchell's behaviour yesterday, but I still want EM gone!!!
Fletch you are right, but the Mitchell clan,will fight hard on here to protect him.Look at all the new user names springing up in his defence,including one who has been on this site a whole "two years" such experience.
paulhanlon
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1:17pm Sun 30 Sep 12
pete woodley wrote:you do not have to contribute on here to be a fan.
Fletch you are right, but the Mitchell clan,will fight hard on here to protect him.Look at all the new user names springing up in his defence,including one who has been on this site a whole "two years" such experience.
Whilst I have only been on here a couple of years I am a season ticket holder and have been coming to Dean Court since 1972. I have sat through some great times under David Webb, Harry, Sean etc... Awful football under John Benson, Quinn etc...
I was fortunate enough to see George Best and the huge win over United and the Milk Cup game the year before which I think had Peter Beardsley play his only game for United.
The point I am making Mr Pete Woodley is this board is not your sole fiefdom. People who disagree with you are entitled to an opinion.
Until he took over I had never heard of Eddie Mitchell. But I am not convinced he is demonic.
Yesterday I was stood in the bar watching Arsenal Chelsea. Walsall fans were discussing how they wished all their away games were at Dean Court as the facilities were so smart and clean.
We are not a laughing stock except amongst ourselves.
Eddie Mitchell makes mistakes, in my view, none bigger than Paul Groves. But he has done some good too.
The man who does no wrong is yet to be born, but I am also unsure that the man who does no right has been either.
Go ahead, slag me off. Do it with facts and I'll take heed. Use your stock answers (that I am Tom Mitchell or an employee etc..) and I will just smile at a won argument.
mossy 1
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1:18pm Sun 30 Sep 12
sea poole wrote:I`ll have your ST as long as you swap it for mine!
How much will I get for my Season Ticket on ebay? Or how much will any Cherries supporter offer me...?
alasdair1967
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1:20pm Sun 30 Sep 12
The Renegade Master
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1:25pm Sun 30 Sep 12
lionheart wrote:Actually it was Private Fraser who used to say "We're doomed" in Dad's Army, not Private Pike. He was the stupid boy!
CC C-siders wrote:I'm afraid if Edmund and his family stay with AFCB , as Sgt Pike used to say, 'We're doomed'
alasdair1967 wrote:Agreed.
Let me get one thing clear Groves must go and go now,however I think EM was extremely brave to confront the mob yesterday from what I have heard he initially conducted himself well however when you are confronted by an angry mob your composure can rapidly slip ,EM is a builder come good so as we all know, they are all renowned for there effing and jeffing so it was inevitable for the swearing to start once goaded enough .however mr Mitchell you to sort this now the players lack confidence under groves and the negativity coming from the terraces is clearly effecting there composure on the field of play ,the passion is being sucked from the club and the only way for it to return will be the appointment of a new manager who can reinstall the confidence in both the players and supporters ACT NOW before its too late
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I can see no evidence that Groves/ Brooks have any understanding of the problem here. They have demonstrated many times their lack of any tactical understanding and yesterday we saw it very clearly.
We didn't know much about the new boys until yesterday but it really looks like more of the same.
In midfield there was no creativity. There is only one such player here, which is Arter, who often fails to perform. We had no ball winner, the likes of Bartley, Hollands, Browning etc. Partington is not right for this role -
Though I really think Zubar could be that man. Foggy is a worker and is a good option. Carmichael looked impressive but I felt very sorry for him having to come on yesterday.
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We do not need any more strikers, just get a coach than can get the guys we have to perform - and play a style that supports them.
Why did Wes score yesterday but can't put a foot right for us. 1 goal in 22 says more about our coaching failings than him as a player I suspect. I would rather see a 40 year old Fletch play as he at least as the desire, desire and vocl presence to kick these butts of this side of individuals.
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Stick with it EM. Just bring in some proven football management expertise. Getting rid now will be costly. Steve Cottrill is your man!
Just shows what a lack of judgement he has and lack a football brain to have appointed Bradbury and now Groves in the first place.
To sort this can of worms out we need someone like Billy Davies to come in as manager or for Demin to buy out the Mitchell's, send them packing and invite Harry Redknapp to become a minority shareholder and Director of Football.
Then we might see the return of wingers and entertainment on the pitch.
The only entertainment for the fans at the moment is the circus off the pitch!
Maybe we should call Groves "****" because he's clearly not too bright when it comes to managing a football club, but no doubt that would upset the real pikeys who've also out stayed their welcome in Kings Park!
The Renegade Master
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1:28pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Redgolfer00
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2:01pm Sun 30 Sep 12
TrueCherry wrote:Put a lot of his fortune into the club, HOW!!!!, a bankrupt 7 times should not have any money, oh its not his but the many he fleeced, on his way to the 7.
The problem doesn't lie with Mitchell, instead, the Denim's. All of this trouble only started to rise once the Denim's arrived. Mitchell has put a lot of fortune into the club, I know on the pitch there needs to be some alterations...But lets not forget, four years ago we were praying for someone like him to come along.
the afcb fan
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2:20pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Nat1234 wrote:What a dipstick about 100 of you protest average age 13 that means 4900 of is aren't, a true supporter, supports there club, not boo their players.
the afcb fan wrote:What are you on about ? People pay good money to watch this cr.p football being played .. They have got every rite to complain if they want to .. To me it says they feel passion towards our club ... It's people like you who just pay their money and say nothing .. YOU ARE NOT A TRUE SUPPORTER .. Not the people who demonstrate ..new cherry wrote:Yes very foolish as they don't support the club, they are just troublemakers with an excuse. It is they that pour shame on our clubYafcbY wrote: The reputation of our club is in the pits due to our own miserable supporters.Not the supporters... That is a foolish thing to say
goatty
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2:22pm Sun 30 Sep 12
paulhanlon wrote:I think you are seeing everything through rose tinted glasses. Mitchell has bankrupted so many of his companies and ripped off so many local people that people in this town are sick of him. His development Company Seven has the receivers in and this will no doubt be another bankrupt company to add to the list.
pete woodley wrote:you do not have to contribute on here to be a fan.
Fletch you are right, but the Mitchell clan,will fight hard on here to protect him.Look at all the new user names springing up in his defence,including one who has been on this site a whole "two years" such experience.
Whilst I have only been on here a couple of years I am a season ticket holder and have been coming to Dean Court since 1972. I have sat through some great times under David Webb, Harry, Sean etc... Awful football under John Benson, Quinn etc...
I was fortunate enough to see George Best and the huge win over United and the Milk Cup game the year before which I think had Peter Beardsley play his only game for United.
The point I am making Mr Pete Woodley is this board is not your sole fiefdom. People who disagree with you are entitled to an opinion.
Until he took over I had never heard of Eddie Mitchell. But I am not convinced he is demonic.
Yesterday I was stood in the bar watching Arsenal Chelsea. Walsall fans were discussing how they wished all their away games were at Dean Court as the facilities were so smart and clean.
We are not a laughing stock except amongst ourselves.
Eddie Mitchell makes mistakes, in my view, none bigger than Paul Groves. But he has done some good too.
The man who does no wrong is yet to be born, but I am also unsure that the man who does no right has been either.
Go ahead, slag me off. Do it with facts and I'll take heed. Use your stock answers (that I am Tom Mitchell or an employee etc..) and I will just smile at a won argument.
He has dismissed all the staff that had am opinion and replaced them with his yes men and family. How can a 23 year old kid be a Director of Football when he has achieved nothing and knows even less?
As a Chairman you should act responsibly and be a person that is the bedrock of a club. In Mitchell's case he is nothing but a drunken bully who has embarrassed not only the club but the town of Bournemouth as well.
Its all very well to say how much he has done to the stadium, but lets remember he does not own it and has not used his money to do it. His building company has charged the club for all the works.
Let us also remember that without the Russian money the club would be in serious financial debt as Mitchell is robbing the club blind paying his family vast amounts of money out of it. His son in law, Blake and his son takes over £160,000 between them plus cars etc. If all the others members were added in it would be over £400,000 per year. Where do you think that comes from????
The Renegade Master
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2:42pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Does anyone seriously think this man is a fit and proper person to be AFC Bournemouth chairman after listening to that? He is a disgrace and has made OUR club the laughing stock of the entire football league. It's time for him and his hangers on to leave and take our inept management duo with them.
I'm now hoping that Maxim Demin will buy the Mitchell's out and persuade Harry Redknapp to oversee an upturn in the fortunes of this club. Without something happening fast our season is going to free fall into a full blown relegation battle.
GROVES, BROOKS & MITCHELL(S) OUT!
DEMIN & REDKNAPP IN!
Nat1234
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2:58pm Sun 30 Sep 12
the afcb fan wrote:Yes you are probably correct . The average age was about 13 years of age . That is why MITCHELL confronted and threatened them . Because he wouldn't of done that if there were real men demonstrating . That's how bully's operate ..
Nat1234 wrote:What a dipstick about 100 of you protest average age 13 that means 4900 of is aren't, a true supporter, supports there club, not boo their players.
the afcb fan wrote:What are you on about ? People pay good money to watch this cr.p football being played .. They have got every rite to complain if they want to .. To me it says they feel passion towards our club ... It's people like you who just pay their money and say nothing .. YOU ARE NOT A TRUE SUPPORTER .. Not the people who demonstrate ..new cherry wrote:Yes very foolish as they don't support the club, they are just troublemakers with an excuse. It is they that pour shame on our clubYafcbY wrote: The reputation of our club is in the pits due to our own miserable supporters.Not the supporters... That is a foolish thing to say
paulhanlon
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3:03pm Sun 30 Sep 12
goatty wrote:Living 25 miles from Bournemouth I only ever read the sports pages of the Echo, not the news.
paulhanlon wrote:I think you are seeing everything through rose tinted glasses. Mitchell has bankrupted so many of his companies and ripped off so many local people that people in this town are sick of him. His development Company Seven has the receivers in and this will no doubt be another bankrupt company to add to the list.
pete woodley wrote:you do not have to contribute on here to be a fan.
Fletch you are right, but the Mitchell clan,will fight hard on here to protect him.Look at all the new user names springing up in his defence,including one who has been on this site a whole "two years" such experience.
Whilst I have only been on here a couple of years I am a season ticket holder and have been coming to Dean Court since 1972. I have sat through some great times under David Webb, Harry, Sean etc... Awful football under John Benson, Quinn etc...
I was fortunate enough to see George Best and the huge win over United and the Milk Cup game the year before which I think had Peter Beardsley play his only game for United.
The point I am making Mr Pete Woodley is this board is not your sole fiefdom. People who disagree with you are entitled to an opinion.
Until he took over I had never heard of Eddie Mitchell. But I am not convinced he is demonic.
Yesterday I was stood in the bar watching Arsenal Chelsea. Walsall fans were discussing how they wished all their away games were at Dean Court as the facilities were so smart and clean.
We are not a laughing stock except amongst ourselves.
Eddie Mitchell makes mistakes, in my view, none bigger than Paul Groves. But he has done some good too.
The man who does no wrong is yet to be born, but I am also unsure that the man who does no right has been either.
Go ahead, slag me off. Do it with facts and I'll take heed. Use your stock answers (that I am Tom Mitchell or an employee etc..) and I will just smile at a won argument.
He has dismissed all the staff that had am opinion and replaced them with his yes men and family. How can a 23 year old kid be a Director of Football when he has achieved nothing and knows even less?
As a Chairman you should act responsibly and be a person that is the bedrock of a club. In Mitchell's case he is nothing but a drunken bully who has embarrassed not only the club but the town of Bournemouth as well.
Its all very well to say how much he has done to the stadium, but lets remember he does not own it and has not used his money to do it. His building company has charged the club for all the works.
Let us also remember that without the Russian money the club would be in serious financial debt as Mitchell is robbing the club blind paying his family vast amounts of money out of it. His son in law, Blake and his son takes over £160,000 between them plus cars etc. If all the others members were added in it would be over £400,000 per year. Where do you think that comes from????
All the things you say are a concern and maybe we would be better off without Eddie.
But reality is I don't see that he is going anywhere fast whereas Groves could and should be gone already.
Further to that I believe Groves is causing untold damage to the club's immediate prospects. Whatever is going on behind the scenes EM could still make a couple of good decisions that would recover this season. HR is supposedly there to advise PG. Once PG is gone maybe he can advise EM on a replacement.
I believe we have a potential promotion side, though I accept I may have supporters blinkers on! Unlike many I was impressed with the Dutch yesterday. Fit, FD will be a massive handful for any defence and Davids will add weight to the midfield.
I have always been aware that the depth of feeling about EM is not just the normal "hatred" of a struggling chairman. We are, however, stuck with him for the foreseeable future.
Fans should be behind each other and fight battles we can win. And getting rid of Groves may not happen in the next few days but it is a battle we can win. Eddie Mitchell splits us into a fight we will lose.
I welcome your comments as they do shed light on the animosity people express on here.
ParkstonePete
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4:29pm Sun 30 Sep 12
He bought the club for a song.
He employed a number of his family and friends at the Club in jobs for which few of them seem qualified.
He ran the business so badly that the Eddie Howe team had to be sold off to keep the club solvent.
He drove out one of the best young managers in the Football League.
He appointed Bradbury & Groves, two of the worst managers we have had.
He told supporters who did not like the way he was runningthe club to go and support Southampton.
He came on the field, appearing to be slightly under the weather and challenged a supporter to some "action".
He has stormed into the sanctum that is the dressing room on more than one occaision.
He has used foul and abusive language on a national radio station.
He has spent huge sums of money on improvements tothe stadium and ground which the club do not own.
Apart from that he has done a great job!
simong
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4:34pm Sun 30 Sep 12
I've never seen anyone be able to take good players and within a few weeks make them look awful like he has done.
Whatever the cost he must be sacked - we cannot afford to keep him !!
Don't make excuses or try to justify his failings EM - just get rid !!
West moors 1
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4:41pm Sun 30 Sep 12
CC C-siders
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4:44pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Nat1234 wrote:Nat you really do write such rubbish.
the afcb fan wrote:Yes you are probably correct . The average age was about 13 years of age . That is why MITCHELL confronted and threatened them . Because he wouldn't of done that if there were real men demonstrating . That's how bully's operate ..
Nat1234 wrote:What a dipstick about 100 of you protest average age 13 that means 4900 of is aren't, a true supporter, supports there club, not boo their players.
the afcb fan wrote:What are you on about ? People pay good money to watch this cr.p football being played .. They have got every rite to complain if they want to .. To me it says they feel passion towards our club ... It's people like you who just pay their money and say nothing .. YOU ARE NOT A TRUE SUPPORTER .. Not the people who demonstrate ..new cherry wrote:Yes very foolish as they don't support the club, they are just troublemakers with an excuse. It is they that pour shame on our clubYafcbY wrote: The reputation of our club is in the pits due to our own miserable supporters.Not the supporters... That is a foolish thing to say
Ever had anything positive or constructive to say?
dylexic bobert
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4:51pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Roband65
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6:28pm Sun 30 Sep 12
new cherry
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7:12pm Sun 30 Sep 12
From what I could see it was a mixture of people protesting and in my opinion it was not wise or brave of em to go out and speak, it showed real error of judgement. Is there any one of us who couldn't see how that would end?
Now it really is a mess and it needs to be sorted.
To those of you who defend Mitchell answer me why all his family are on the payroll and why was the work not put out to tender, if he was the best price as you say then he would have won it and there would have been transparency. A thing that is sadly lacking. So this breeds distrust.
Make no mistake though, if groves doesn't go this week then the future is bleak. Relegation form, falling gates and financial collapse. At that point the financial records will surface. I think it's either groves out or by Christmas we will be in the bottom four and the receivers will be in... Again.
afcdibby
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7:31pm Sun 30 Sep 12
lockandload
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7:35pm Sun 30 Sep 12
At the end of the season when we are relagated and Demin pulling the money , then Mitchell will realise the games up and they will run to Dubai leaving AFCB destroyed.
Dubai might be great for a holiday but not so good when you are stuck there Eddie so you are at a crossroads your choice is the above or sack the muppets , rein in your useless son and bring in a REAL manager
Roband65
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7:41pm Sun 30 Sep 12
lockandload wrote:Im not sure if mr mitchell can go back to dubai for one reason or another !
If Groves is in the job on tuesday then look forward to another kicking at Crawley.
At the end of the season when we are relagated and Demin pulling the money , then Mitchell will realise the games up and they will run to Dubai leaving AFCB destroyed.
Dubai might be great for a holiday but not so good when you are stuck there Eddie so you are at a crossroads your choice is the above or sack the muppets , rein in your useless son and bring in a REAL manager
Fred Luton
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7:45pm Sun 30 Sep 12
jacko225 wrote:No, if someome told me to F off I would definately not respond with the same. I would have a much more educated reply. I would not come down to the level of any one fowl mouthed.
I wonder how many people slagging off EM have actually watched the footage - judging by the comments, not many.
Credit to EM for coming out and facing the fans - it's a shame that the fans didn't let him speak and couldn't hear him.
When he told the fan to "f**k off", he was responding with the same message that the fan said to him - wouldn't you react in a similar way?
And the fan that threw the program should be ashamed of themselves, they are a disgrace.
I'm pleased EM gave the fans a chance to listen to him and ask him questions, it's just a shame that some of the fans there didn't let him speak, while the others couldn't hear him.
stfcinbmth
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8:12pm Sun 30 Sep 12
dylexic bobert wrote:Dave Wells?
get EM out and bring in DW!
pete woodley
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8:38pm Sun 30 Sep 12
afcdibby wrote:Silly boy.When will you grow up and talk on the subject,which is the sad state of AFCB.
Could any available nurse please take Mr. Woodley back to his room.
goatty
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8:39pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Roband65 wrote:Probably ripped someone else off over there
lockandload wrote:Im not sure if mr mitchell can go back to dubai for one reason or another !
If Groves is in the job on tuesday then look forward to another kicking at Crawley.
At the end of the season when we are relagated and Demin pulling the money , then Mitchell will realise the games up and they will run to Dubai leaving AFCB destroyed.
Dubai might be great for a holiday but not so good when you are stuck there Eddie so you are at a crossroads your choice is the above or sack the muppets , rein in your useless son and bring in a REAL manager
goatty
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8:44pm Sun 30 Sep 12
alasdair1967 wrote:I cannot understand you say people were unprepared to listen. Of course they are not going to listen to more lies and excuses from an embarrassment of a Chairman. He and his son are totally useless with no idea how to run a football club and only employ yes men who he won't get rid of no matter what they do or how bad they are.
A lot of people are saying EM was an embarrassment yesterday the problem for him is he is damned if he does damned if he does not if he had not come out to confront the mob he would have been branded a coward ,it takes a lot of guts to confront an angry mob at least he had the balls to face that mob at lot of you need to look in the mirror and ask yourselfs placed in that scenario what would you have done the same .as I said earlier given the circumstances EM actually conducted himself well there where people in that crowd unprepared to listen to reason
In his building Company he could hide all his lying and bullying, but now he's in the spotlight everyone can see him for exactly what he is. An arrogant, egotistic, drunken bully
afcdibby
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8:54pm Sun 30 Sep 12
pete woodley wrote:I was there. Before, during and after the match. Were you? I will be at Coventry next week. Will you?
afcdibby wrote: Could any available nurse please take Mr. Woodley back to his room.Silly boy.When will you grow up and talk on the subject,which is the sad state of AFCB.
archerscherries
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9:19pm Sun 30 Sep 12
The Renegade Master wrote:Sorry, I just find it really cringeworthy when people say they want Redknapp in.
If you want to hear what a foul mouth Mitchell has, go onto the AFCB Vitals site where there's an unedited seven minute video of his "f" word strewn discussion with the fans.
Does anyone seriously think this man is a fit and proper person to be AFC Bournemouth chairman after listening to that? He is a disgrace and has made OUR club the laughing stock of the entire football league. It's time for him and his hangers on to leave and take our inept management duo with them.
I'm now hoping that Maxim Demin will buy the Mitchell's out and persuade Harry Redknapp to oversee an upturn in the fortunes of this club. Without something happening fast our season is going to free fall into a full blown relegation battle.
GROVES, BROOKS & MITCHELL(S) OUT!
DEMIN & REDKNAPP IN!
Are you completely deluded or what? Redknapp is a top level manager, linked with England only earlier this year! Get a grip people!
As for EM - personally, I don't think the fans did themselves any favours shouting him down, swearing and throwing a programme at him (what a muppet whoever you are), as surely we want to hear what he has to say??? EM is certainly no saint and has made many mistakes but at least he had the balls to face all the fans. He came to speak, we wanted answers, we didn't let him!
Anyway, ultimately, it's come to a head. It's time for change. Groves and Brookes must leave, whether sacked or they resign, one must happen. It's clearly not working, the players, individually, are good enough for a promotion challenging team. We, currently, are nowhere near that. And that I have to say, is down to the manager not getting the best out of them, nor having the tactical know-how to change games.
I really hope this season can be salvaged - EM, if you do read these, forget the minority of idiotic fans that heckled you earlier. Think clearly and get a proven manager in that can inspire and turn this group of talented players into a TEAM.
lionheart
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9:21pm Sun 30 Sep 12
Nat1234 wrote:Can we get this right. I was watching proceedings develop.
the afcb fan wrote:Yes you are probably correct . The average age was about 13 years of age . That is why MITCHELL confronted and threatened them . Because he wouldn't of done that if there were real men demonstrating . That's how bully's operate ..
Nat1234 wrote:What a dipstick about 100 of you protest average age 13 that means 4900 of is aren't, a true supporter, supports there club, not boo their players.
the afcb fan wrote:What are you on about ? People pay good money to watch this cr.p football being played .. They have got every rite to complain if they want to .. To me it says they feel passion towards our club ... It's people like you who just pay their money and say nothing .. YOU ARE NOT A TRUE SUPPORTER .. Not the people who demonstrate ..new cherry wrote:Yes very foolish as they don't support the club, they are just troublemakers with an excuse. It is they that pour shame on our clubYafcbY wrote: The reputation of our club is in the pits due to our own miserable supporters.Not the supporters... That is a foolish thing to say
The crowd protesting afterwards weren't 13 year olds or yobs.
It was a cross section of all ages of angry fans.
Stop trying to undermine the protest.
I have been watching the cherries for over 50 years and I want to see the back of Mitchell, his family, his hangers on and Groves and Brooks.
Shame they all came to this club in the first place.
pete woodley
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9:31pm Sun 30 Sep 12
afcdibby wrote:You get more stupid every time,i am 78 in 3 weeks time,have 2 lots of cancer,and 2 blocked heart valves,but if you buy me a new pair of boots ,i will play,as i did up till i was 60,sometimes 3 matches a week,mind you i have slowed up a bit.Back before you were born i sometimes travelled with the team,have you ?.You do not scare me.
pete woodley wrote:I was there. Before, during and after the match. Were you? I will be at Coventry next week. Will you?
afcdibby wrote: Could any available nurse please take Mr. Woodley back to his room.Silly boy.When will you grow up and talk on the subject,which is the sad state of AFCB.
WhatTheHuck
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10:01pm Sun 30 Sep 12
ParkstonePete wrote:All good points. However,at least Mitchell didn't sell our stadium, our biggest asset, like that clown Phillips.
What has Mitchell done for us?
He bought the club for a song.
He employed a number of his family and friends at the Club in jobs for which few of them seem qualified.
He ran the business so badly that the Eddie Howe team had to be sold off to keep the club solvent.
He drove out one of the best young managers in the Football League.
He appointed Bradbury & Groves, two of the worst managers we have had.
He told supporters who did not like the way he was runningthe club to go and support Southampton.
He came on the field, appearing to be slightly under the weather and challenged a supporter to some "action".
He has stormed into the sanctum that is the dressing room on more than one occaision.
He has used foul and abusive language on a national radio station.
He has spent huge sums of money on improvements tothe stadium and ground which the club do not own.
Apart from that he has done a great job!
ParkstonePete
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10:19pm Sun 30 Sep 12
WhatTheHuck wrote:One can assume that given past form Mitchell would have sold the stadium if he had been able to!
ParkstonePete wrote:All good points. However,at least Mitchell didn't sell our stadium, our biggest asset, like that clown Phillips.
What has Mitchell done for us?
He bought the club for a song.
He employed a number of his family and friends at the Club in jobs for which few of them seem qualified.
He ran the business so badly that the Eddie Howe team had to be sold off to keep the club solvent.
He drove out one of the best young managers in the Football League.
He appointed Bradbury & Groves, two of the worst managers we have had.
He told supporters who did not like the way he was runningthe club to go and support Southampton.
He came on the field, appearing to be slightly under the weather and challenged a supporter to some "action".
He has stormed into the sanctum that is the dressing room on more than one occaision.
He has used foul and abusive language on a national radio station.
He has spent huge sums of money on improvements tothe stadium and ground which the club do not own.
Apart from that he has done a great job!
gameon
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10:26pm Sun 30 Sep 12
stfcinbmth wrote:How about Mel Bush ??? he is a Genuine Lifelong Fan .
dylexic bobert wrote:Dave Wells?
get EM out and bring in DW!
afcb-millar
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11:59pm Sun 30 Sep 12
afcb-millar
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11:59pm Sun 30 Sep 12
afcb-millar
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11:59pm Sun 30 Sep 12
CherrySi
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9:58am Mon 1 Oct 12
SUFFERINGBJ
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10:45am Mon 1 Oct 12
I have supported Cherries since Phil Boyer/ Ted Mac days and I can safely say forgetting all the politics going on that is the worse game of football I have seen from a Cherries team for a very, very long time.
You could feel the tension and emotion running round the ground we as supporters really want a team to be proud of,passion starts from the manager and coaching staff.......non existant, the players really seemed clueless as to what the game plan and tactics should be. PLEASE PLEASE EM . Sort it out ASAP.
cherrydragon
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12:24pm Mon 1 Oct 12
Why is his fellow shareholder not doing anything? This is madness, THIS IS AFC BOURNEMOUTH
Warwickshire Red
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12:44pm Mon 1 Oct 12
ParkstonePete wrote:Count yourselves lucky. If that was Paolo Di Canio who acted like that it would be on loop on SSN for 3 daysand the national papers would have been all over over it.
What has Mitchell done for us?
He bought the club for a song.
He employed a number of his family and friends at the Club in jobs for which few of them seem qualified.
He ran the business so badly that the Eddie Howe team had to be sold off to keep the club solvent.
He drove out one of the best young managers in the Football League.
He appointed Bradbury & Groves, two of the worst managers we have had.
He told supporters who did not like the way he was runningthe club to go and support Southampton.
He came on the field, appearing to be slightly under the weather and challenged a supporter to some "action".
He has stormed into the sanctum that is the dressing room on more than one occaision.
He has used foul and abusive language on a national radio station.
He has spent huge sums of money on improvements tothe stadium and ground which the club do not own.
Apart from that he has done a great job!
SUFFERINGBJ
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12:44pm Mon 1 Oct 12
SUFFERINGBJ
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12:45pm Mon 1 Oct 12
the afcb fan
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1:02pm Mon 1 Oct 12
goatty wrote:Goatty we have worked out that you are a disillousioned ex employee
alasdair1967 wrote:I cannot understand you say people were unprepared to listen. Of course they are not going to listen to more lies and excuses from an embarrassment of a Chairman. He and his son are totally useless with no idea how to run a football club and only employ yes men who he won't get rid of no matter what they do or how bad they are.
A lot of people are saying EM was an embarrassment yesterday the problem for him is he is damned if he does damned if he does not if he had not come out to confront the mob he would have been branded a coward ,it takes a lot of guts to confront an angry mob at least he had the balls to face that mob at lot of you need to look in the mirror and ask yourselfs placed in that scenario what would you have done the same .as I said earlier given the circumstances EM actually conducted himself well there where people in that crowd unprepared to listen to reason
In his building Company he could hide all his lying and bullying, but now he's in the spotlight everyone can see him for exactly what he is. An arrogant, egotistic, drunken bully
hcharding
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1:20pm Tue 2 Oct 12
Bobcat says...
6:57pm Sat 29 Sep 12