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Cherries: Don't write us off says legend Fletcher
7:00am Thursday 28th February 2013 in Latest Sport
By Ian Wadley
DEFIANT Dean Court legend Steve Fletcher insists Cherries have the ability to confound the critics and has reassured the club’s supporters: We still believe.
Fletcher urged the Cherries faithful to stick with the promotion-chasing team after Eddie Howe’s men had dropped out of the League One play-off zone.
Three successive defeats saw Cherries slide to seventh and led to some doubters voicing their concerns about the Dorset club’s Championship quest.
But with Cherries just three points adrift of the top two in a fiercely-contested title race, Fletcher served a timely reminder of how far the team have come.
He told the Daily Echo: “I train with these boys day in, day out and the ability is the best I have known since I have been here.
“I know we have got the capabilities. If people want to write us off, so be it, but we are in the mix.
“Three months ago, people would have laughed at you if we had said when we were 21st in the league that we were going to be in the mix come the end of February.
That is the positive we have got to look at.
“If people want to write us off, that is up to them, we don’t take any notice of that.
“Our true supporters know how well we have done and they have backed us all the way. I am sure they are going to have the belief that the players, management and staff have got from now until the end of the season with 33 points to play for.
“The supporters have been with us ever since Eddie came back. They have turned up in their numbers and backed the players 100 per cent home and away. That is all we can ask from the supporters from now on – to try to get with us even more through this little sticky patch.
“We know we have got to go on another run – we are not blind to it or trying to bury our head in the sand.
But we have proved that we are capable of doing it so we have just got to have that positive attitude that we can do it again.”
Fletcher added: “We still talk about promotion among the players in the changing room.
“We believe we are one of the better teams in the league and we know the ability we have got in the squad. We are a tight-knit group and that isn’t going to change.”
Speaking after Tuesday’s defeat against Coventry City, boss Howe said: “I am sure people in the league, perhaps even some of our own supporters, will doubt us or write us off. That doesn’t concern me.
“What concerns me is the attitude of the dressing room and I know I have got a good dressing room with talented players, so there is a long way to go.”
Meanwhile, Harry Arter will miss Cherries’ next two games through suspension after collecting his 10th booking of the season against Coventry.
Comments(72)
N Smith
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7:19am Thu 28 Feb 13
Scalpel
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7:33am Thu 28 Feb 13
Keep the faith. UTCIAD
smhinto
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7:50am Thu 28 Feb 13
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It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm.
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Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points.
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Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable.
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I believe a couple more loans may well be required.
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Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong.
Regards
AFCBade
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8:17am Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:I am a patient and tolerant man so have never commented on your posts but even I am fed up with your negativity and eagerness to post such comments.
Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful.
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It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm.
.
Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points.
.
Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable.
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I believe a couple more loans may well be required.
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Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong.
Regards
Did you go Tuesday? I did and thought we were fantastic for the opening half an hour and should have been two or three up before we let in a break away goal.
Think there are tired legs and a little bit of self doubt when we missed chances and conceded. Root of problem is absence of elphick and Daniels but there is enough quality to win Saturday.
Arter is a key man but think a two game break will do wonders as he looks tired. Grabban didn't do much Tuesday so not the end of the world.
Still confident of a play off spot !
Frankiesbackfromhollywood
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8:21am Thu 28 Feb 13
mdt_y2k
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8:25am Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:"A slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possibly disrupting our rhythm"???
Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful. . It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm. . Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points. . Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable. . I believe a couple more loans may well be required. . Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong. Regards
Surely after 3 defeats in a row without scoring, that is exactly what we need to do?
I'm trying not to be negative, but playing the same tactics when they arent working, just because they were 3 weeks ago, seems a bit naive to me.
We need to shake it up a bit and prove we have a plan b. Even if we do go up, and I really hope we do, we'll struggle all season if we stick to one gameplan throughout.
cherrygood
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8:31am Thu 28 Feb 13
And more importantly spot on Fletch, i couldn't agree with you more.
West moors 1
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8:32am Thu 28 Feb 13
Justin Otherfan
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8:40am Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:McDonald in for Arter, Tubbs for Grabban. Ritchie at the back with Fraser on the wing. Sorted! We still have players like Fogden available so there are other options. I am sure the gaffer has it in hand. Hopefully Pugh will be fit again. There is still a long way to go and a lot of points available. Keep the faith.
Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful.
.
It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm.
.
Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points.
.
Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable.
.
I believe a couple more loans may well be required.
.
Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong.
Regards
TedMacsCherryPants
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8:44am Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:'Empty heads' ????!!!!!!!!!!!
Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful. . It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm. . Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points. . Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable. . I believe a couple more loans may well be required. . Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong. Regards
What a smug, patronising t*sser!!!
It’s called having a bit of faith in the team and it helps the team! If supporters have no faith in the team then why bother at all!
So therefore smhinto why do YOU bother?!
We will move on and it will start Saturday!
UTC!
regards
smhinto
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8:48am Thu 28 Feb 13
mdt_y2k wrote:Yes - Fair point, at least you have answered the post sensibly.
smhinto wrote: Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful. . It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm. . Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points. . Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable. . I believe a couple more loans may well be required. . Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong. Regards"A slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possibly disrupting our rhythm"??? Surely after 3 defeats in a row without scoring, that is exactly what we need to do? I'm trying not to be negative, but playing the same tactics when they arent working, just because they were 3 weeks ago, seems a bit naive to me. We need to shake it up a bit and prove we have a plan b. Even if we do go up, and I really hope we do, we'll struggle all season if we stick to one gameplan throughout.
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Regards
smhinto
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8:50am Thu 28 Feb 13
Justin Otherfan wrote:Again a sensible answer - Thankyou
smhinto wrote: Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful. . It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm. . Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points. . Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable. . I believe a couple more loans may well be required. . Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong. RegardsMcDonald in for Arter, Tubbs for Grabban. Ritchie at the back with Fraser on the wing. Sorted! We still have players like Fogden available so there are other options. I am sure the gaffer has it in hand. Hopefully Pugh will be fit again. There is still a long way to go and a lot of points available. Keep the faith.
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Regards
phil1965
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8:57am Thu 28 Feb 13
...Regards
smhinto
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9:11am Thu 28 Feb 13
AFCBade wrote:This not negativity my friend -
smhinto wrote: Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful. . It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm. . Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points. . Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable. . I believe a couple more loans may well be required. . Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong. RegardsI am a patient and tolerant man so have never commented on your posts but even I am fed up with your negativity and eagerness to post such comments. Did you go Tuesday? I did and thought we were fantastic for the opening half an hour and should have been two or three up before we let in a break away goal. Think there are tired legs and a little bit of self doubt when we missed chances and conceded. Root of problem is absence of elphick and Daniels but there is enough quality to win Saturday. Arter is a key man but think a two game break will do wonders as he looks tired. Grabban didn't do much Tuesday so not the end of the world. Still confident of a play off spot !
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This is highlighting what is likely to happen when players are missing and at the same time playing strong sides.
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Injuries can cost you promotion and can also get you relagated, rather like bad refereeing decisions of which can do the same.
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At the moment we have Elphick, Daniels, Pugh, Arter and now possibly Grabban all out of the squad.
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So with that said are you suggesting that with these people missing it will not make any difference at all ?
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re-read the post and assess it on its merits of what is being said and not look at it in a negative way.
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Some people have already managed to answer it sensibly.
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Regards
andyjb10
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9:16am Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:You complete moron.
Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful.
.
It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm.
.
Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points.
.
Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable.
.
I believe a couple more loans may well be required.
.
Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong.
Regards
When was the last time you actually went to a Bournemouth game, please tell us?
TedMacsCherryPants
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9:16am Thu 28 Feb 13
phil1965 wrote:My thoughts exactly, though you won't fall into the smug "sensible post" category...Regards
Sminto or whatever your name is.I read your comments and dont ever say anything.But today i feel compelled.Why the negative vibes man!,your not the manager(thank Christ)and you state the obvious that most fans on here seem to realise(defensive problems).The thing that gets on my tits is you seem a little bit smug,like your some sort of tactical genius with an amazing ability to be patronizing all at the same time.I dont think i would like to go to the pub with you,in fact i think not even your friends like going to the pub with you.But thanks for your "insght" anyway ...Regards
smhinto
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9:18am Thu 28 Feb 13
phil1965 wrote:This not negativity my friend -
Sminto or whatever your name is.I read your comments and dont ever say anything.But today i feel compelled.Why the negative vibes man!,your not the manager(thank Christ)and you state the obvious that most fans on here seem to realise(defensive problems).The thing that gets on my tits is you seem a little bit smug,like your some sort of tactical genius with an amazing ability to be patronizing all at the same time.I dont think i would like to go to the pub with you,in fact i think not even your friends like going to the pub with you.But thanks for your "insght" anyway ...Regards
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This is highlighting what is likely to happen when players are missing and at the same time playing strong sides.
.
Injuries can cost you promotion and can also get you relagated, rather like bad refereeing decisions of which can do the same.
.
At the moment we have Elphick, Daniels, Pugh, Arter and now possibly Grabban all out of the squad.
.
So with that said are you suggesting that with these people missing it will not make any difference at all ?
.
re-read the post and assess it on its merits of what is being said and not look at it in a negative way.
.
Some people have already managed to answer it sensibly.
.
Regards
RED LETTER DAY
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9:26am Thu 28 Feb 13
cherrygood
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9:26am Thu 28 Feb 13
I totally get pessimism because with that outlook you never expect much good to happen and when it does its a bonus.
I therefore challenge you with writing a nice positive post to raise all our spirits for the final 11 games.
Frankiesbackfromhollywood
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9:36am Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:BUT YOU DON'T EVEN GO TO THE CHERRIES MATCHES!!! You were at Burton weren't you Tuesday night? you don't know anything about this team as you never see them play, do not call real fans air-heads because they have faith in their team and are confident of a win, according to you so far this season we should be rock bottom, I have yet to see you predict a positive result!!
AFCBade wrote:This not negativity my friend -
smhinto wrote: Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful. . It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm. . Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points. . Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable. . I believe a couple more loans may well be required. . Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong. RegardsI am a patient and tolerant man so have never commented on your posts but even I am fed up with your negativity and eagerness to post such comments. Did you go Tuesday? I did and thought we were fantastic for the opening half an hour and should have been two or three up before we let in a break away goal. Think there are tired legs and a little bit of self doubt when we missed chances and conceded. Root of problem is absence of elphick and Daniels but there is enough quality to win Saturday. Arter is a key man but think a two game break will do wonders as he looks tired. Grabban didn't do much Tuesday so not the end of the world. Still confident of a play off spot !
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This is highlighting what is likely to happen when players are missing and at the same time playing strong sides.
.
Injuries can cost you promotion and can also get you relagated, rather like bad refereeing decisions of which can do the same.
.
At the moment we have Elphick, Daniels, Pugh, Arter and now possibly Grabban all out of the squad.
.
So with that said are you suggesting that with these people missing it will not make any difference at all ?
.
re-read the post and assess it on its merits of what is being said and not look at it in a negative way.
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Some people have already managed to answer it sensibly.
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Regards
smhinto
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9:38am Thu 28 Feb 13
andyjb10 wrote:And what does your silly, stupid answer have to do with the post raised ??
smhinto wrote: Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful. . It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm. . Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points. . Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable. . I believe a couple more loans may well be required. . Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong. RegardsYou complete moron. When was the last time you actually went to a Bournemouth game, please tell us?
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Try re-reading it and answer it sensibly and address it's contents.
smhinto
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9:38am Thu 28 Feb 13
andyjb10 wrote:And what does your silly, stupid answer have to do with the post raised ??
smhinto wrote: Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful. . It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm. . Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points. . Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable. . I believe a couple more loans may well be required. . Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong. RegardsYou complete moron. When was the last time you actually went to a Bournemouth game, please tell us?
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Try re-reading it and answer it sensibly and address it's contents.
Frankiesbackfromhollywood
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9:40am Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:MacDonald will be back in that's a positive, Okane will push more forward, a positive, Tubbs will get another 90 minutes or so, another positive, Fraser will get a run in the team, yet another positive, Matt Ritchie will play at left back, he's been outstanding there but you wouldn't know that, so I don't see any negatives with these changes, also Foggy is a hard worker and played well Tuesday night, another positive, so there you have it, not the doom and gloom you want to paint!!
phil1965 wrote:This not negativity my friend -
Sminto or whatever your name is.I read your comments and dont ever say anything.But today i feel compelled.Why the negative vibes man!,your not the manager(thank Christ)and you state the obvious that most fans on here seem to realise(defensive problems).The thing that gets on my tits is you seem a little bit smug,like your some sort of tactical genius with an amazing ability to be patronizing all at the same time.I dont think i would like to go to the pub with you,in fact i think not even your friends like going to the pub with you.But thanks for your "insght" anyway ...Regards
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This is highlighting what is likely to happen when players are missing and at the same time playing strong sides.
.
Injuries can cost you promotion and can also get you relagated, rather like bad refereeing decisions of which can do the same.
.
At the moment we have Elphick, Daniels, Pugh, Arter and now possibly Grabban all out of the squad.
.
So with that said are you suggesting that with these people missing it will not make any difference at all ?
.
re-read the post and assess it on its merits of what is being said and not look at it in a negative way.
.
Some people have already managed to answer it sensibly.
.
Regards
Afcbpete
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10:06am Thu 28 Feb 13
TedMacsCherryPants
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10:12am Thu 28 Feb 13
Afcbpete wrote:I have to admit, I wouldn't want to be on the wrong end of a b0ll0cking from JT so I'd give it my all!! We believe in the team and want them to believe in themselves, bring on the O's, looking forward to it. EHBA!
EXACTLY!!! It won't do any harm to ring a few changes anyway. But then SUPPORTING and watching the team you'd know that. As I've said MANY times before, what happens, happens, just get behind the TEAM/SQUAD and SUPPORT them!!! We MAY win Saturday, we MAY lose/draw, but the BIG difference now, is we all know (well, most of us), that they give their all for the cause, because Eddie/Jason would not except anything less.... UTCIAD
Piston_Broke
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10:38am Thu 28 Feb 13
Number of remaining fixtures, per team, and in brackets, how many of those are against others currently in the top 10:
Doncaster Rovers 12 (6)
Sheffield United 12 (4)
Tranmere Rovers 11 (5)
Swindon Town 12 (7)
Brentford 13 (5)
Yeovil Town 12 (4)
AFC Bournemouth 11 (3)
Coventry City 11 (5)
Walsall 11 (5)
There are an awful lot of points going to be dropped by teams at the top between now and the end of April. It would also be useful if MK Dons could find some form, as they still have to play everyone above us at the moment except Yeovil. In fact, looking at the run-ins, my money is on Yeovil to win auto-promotion. And us, of course. UTC.
smhinto
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10:42am Thu 28 Feb 13
FrankiesbackfromhollAnd how wouild you know what AFCB games i attend. Th last game i saw was Doncaster awal
ywood wrote:
smhinto wrote:BUT YOU DON'T EVEN GO TO THE CHERRIES MATCHES!!! You were at Burton weren't you Tuesday night? you don't know anything about this team as you never see them play, do not call real fans air-heads because they have faith in their team and are confident of a win, according to you so far this season we should be rock bottom, I have yet to see you predict a positive result!!AFCBade wrote:This not negativity my friend - . This is highlighting what is likely to happen when players are missing and at the same time playing strong sides. . Injuries can cost you promotion and can also get you relagated, rather like bad refereeing decisions of which can do the same. . At the moment we have Elphick, Daniels, Pugh, Arter and now possibly Grabban all out of the squad. . So with that said are you suggesting that with these people missing it will not make any difference at all ? . re-read the post and assess it on its merits of what is being said and not look at it in a negative way. . Some people have already managed to answer it sensibly. . Regardssmhinto wrote: Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful. . It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm. . Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points. . Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable. . I believe a couple more loans may well be required. . Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong. RegardsI am a patient and tolerant man so have never commented on your posts but even I am fed up with your negativity and eagerness to post such comments. Did you go Tuesday? I did and thought we were fantastic for the opening half an hour and should have been two or three up before we let in a break away goal. Think there are tired legs and a little bit of self doubt when we missed chances and conceded. Root of problem is absence of elphick and Daniels but there is enough quality to win Saturday. Arter is a key man but think a two game break will do wonders as he looks tired. Grabban didn't do much Tuesday so not the end of the world. Still confident of a play off spot !
charlie2004
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10:46am Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto
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10:49am Thu 28 Feb 13
cherrygood wrote:I do not intend to be negative. It is more of a case of how you or people receive the information.
Smhinto, I don't think many people on here disagree with alot of your comments, its more about the general negativity you exude and how you seem to enjoy it when the Cherries are in a poor run of form. I totally get pessimism because with that outlook you never expect much good to happen and when it does its a bonus. I therefore challenge you with writing a nice positive post to raise all our spirits for the final 11 games.
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And NO i do not enjoy it ot take pleasure from it. I just post on how i see things going and unfortunately I am right most of the time despite what people say to the contrarary.
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Regards
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smhinto
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10:55am Thu 28 Feb 13
charlie2004 wrote:It is not intended to wind you or anybody else up at all. I just on how i see things.
Smhinto is a complete wind up merchant a troll and a patronising fool with his 'my friend' and 'regards' snipes. If he is totally ignored he might just crawl back under the rock he came out of and do what he does best, go and watch the non league teams he gets summonsed to.
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You have obviously read my original post this morning, so I assume that you believe that having Elphick, Daniels, Arter and possibly Grabban all missing will not make any difference at all against a side like Doncaster and Orient away.
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Plase try to think ! Twit !!
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Regards
TedMacsCherryPants
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11:12am Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:Now who’s contravening your “sensible replies” policy???
charlie2004 wrote: Smhinto is a complete wind up merchant a troll and a patronising fool with his 'my friend' and 'regards' snipes. If he is totally ignored he might just crawl back under the rock he came out of and do what he does best, go and watch the non league teams he gets summonsed to.It is not intended to wind you or anybody else up at all. I just on how i see things. . You have obviously read my original post this morning, so I assume that you believe that having Elphick, Daniels, Arter and possibly Grabban all missing will not make any difference at all against a side like Doncaster and Orient away. . Plase try to think ! Twit !! . Regards
I bet you fall out with yourself every time you look in the mirror?!
We have a big talented squad and as pointed out previously we have players only too pleased to step in and take their opportunity. I predict Ritchie and Fraser will have a big part to play in the run in and really ‘hope’ Matt Tubbs can start finding the back of the net very soon. UTC!
phil1965
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11:18am Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:Idiot...you are just a wind up artist.Bottom line is everyone who goes to the games knows what the problem is.Eddie Howe and jason Tindall are,in my opinion working bloody miracles at dean court.I would just like you to be a bit more forward thinking and express abit more passion for the team.Most posters on here do.You do need to get to more games rather than listen to games on solent,whilst travelling around the country scouting for the dorset u8 girl guide team...Regards
phil1965 wrote: Sminto or whatever your name is.I read your comments and dont ever say anything.But today i feel compelled.Why the negative vibes man!,your not the manager(thank Christ)and you state the obvious that most fans on here seem to realise(defensive problems).The thing that gets on my tits is you seem a little bit smug,like your some sort of tactical genius with an amazing ability to be patronizing all at the same time.I dont think i would like to go to the pub with you,in fact i think not even your friends like going to the pub with you.But thanks for your "insght" anyway ...RegardsThis not negativity my friend - . This is highlighting what is likely to happen when players are missing and at the same time playing strong sides. . Injuries can cost you promotion and can also get you relagated, rather like bad refereeing decisions of which can do the same. . At the moment we have Elphick, Daniels, Pugh, Arter and now possibly Grabban all out of the squad. . So with that said are you suggesting that with these people missing it will not make any difference at all ? . re-read the post and assess it on its merits of what is being said and not look at it in a negative way. . Some people have already managed to answer it sensibly. . Regards
lofty1971
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12:31pm Thu 28 Feb 13
cherrygood
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12:32pm Thu 28 Feb 13
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
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12:32pm Thu 28 Feb 13
No decent afcb wants to read your constant negative drivel Shminto so do us all a favour and keep your thoughts to yourself, and to suggest you are right most of the time makes you look daft & deluded.
I dont need to read your post again as once is more than enough for anyone. REGARDS.!!!!!!!.
smhinto
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12:39pm Thu 28 Feb 13
phil1965 wrote:Nobody is disputing the job Ed and Jason are doing.
smhinto wrote:Idiot...you are just a wind up artist.Bottom line is everyone who goes to the games knows what the problem is.Eddie Howe and jason Tindall are,in my opinion working bloody miracles at dean court.I would just like you to be a bit more forward thinking and express abit more passion for the team.Most posters on here do.You do need to get to more games rather than listen to games on solent,whilst travelling around the country scouting for the dorset u8 girl guide team...Regardsphil1965 wrote: Sminto or whatever your name is.I read your comments and dont ever say anything.But today i feel compelled.Why the negative vibes man!,your not the manager(thank Christ)and you state the obvious that most fans on here seem to realise(defensive problems).The thing that gets on my tits is you seem a little bit smug,like your some sort of tactical genius with an amazing ability to be patronizing all at the same time.I dont think i would like to go to the pub with you,in fact i think not even your friends like going to the pub with you.But thanks for your "insght" anyway ...RegardsThis not negativity my friend - . This is highlighting what is likely to happen when players are missing and at the same time playing strong sides. . Injuries can cost you promotion and can also get you relagated, rather like bad refereeing decisions of which can do the same. . At the moment we have Elphick, Daniels, Pugh, Arter and now possibly Grabban all out of the squad. . So with that said are you suggesting that with these people missing it will not make any difference at all ? . re-read the post and assess it on its merits of what is being said and not look at it in a negative way. . Some people have already managed to answer it sensibly. . Regards
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Yes I do attend games, perhaps more than you believe sometimes two or three games in a week.
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Some people have already managed to answer my post sensibly and address the issues contained therein. We have severe injury problems of which will impact on us over the few games and could cost us promotion as far as results are concerned.
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That is all my posts was trying to put over. Then we encounter twerps like you who cannot answer the thing properly. Regards
smhinto
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12:49pm Thu 28 Feb 13
cherrygood wrote:Agreed - we need a target man to give the wide players something to hit. At the moment we are relying on pushing balls down the channels which is ok, but we have no options if we need to change it.
Agree the pace of Ritchie and Fraser in the team at the same would frighten any league one defence. The question is how we use it to our best advantage and how we get the stikers in tune to put away the chances which will clearly result.
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That is the problem we have and recently the opposition have got us 'sussed'.
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Regards
badgerless
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12:53pm Thu 28 Feb 13
b) I would perfer to hear messages that things will be put right to concentrate on the next game. Then taken every game as it comes and that the squad is always thinking and talking about getting promoted.
c) Doesn't matter who you play at this time of the season, as a bottom placed club can give more of a fight than a team in the top half.
d) When you look at our squad which is top heavy on goalkeepers, midfielders and strikers, defenders were not recruited in an area in which we are threadbare.
e) An off the cuff observation, that EH appears to have a tendancy against having continental players, both here and at Burnley. I have always be puzzled by Demogue who can go straight back to the Dutch top flight and whilst seemingly at the bottom of the pecking order here.
nicoAFCB
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12:55pm Thu 28 Feb 13
Firstly read other people's post and take them in (as these people actually go to our games therefore know what the players are like) and second focus on the positives rather than thinking we have elphick, Daniels, Pugh and grabban out try thinking about the decent replacements we have in Ritchie, Fraser, macdonald and Sheringham to come in!
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
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1:01pm Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:Interesting point here for you shminto. When you are dispatched to a game to compile a dossier on a particular team, presumably you are doing this work on behalf of another club, correct.
phil1965 wrote:Nobody is disputing the job Ed and Jason are doing.
smhinto wrote:Idiot...you are just a wind up artist.Bottom line is everyone who goes to the games knows what the problem is.Eddie Howe and jason Tindall are,in my opinion working bloody miracles at dean court.I would just like you to be a bit more forward thinking and express abit more passion for the team.Most posters on here do.You do need to get to more games rather than listen to games on solent,whilst travelling around the country scouting for the dorset u8 girl guide team...Regardsphil1965 wrote: Sminto or whatever your name is.I read your comments and dont ever say anything.But today i feel compelled.Why the negative vibes man!,your not the manager(thank Christ)and you state the obvious that most fans on here seem to realise(defensive problems).The thing that gets on my tits is you seem a little bit smug,like your some sort of tactical genius with an amazing ability to be patronizing all at the same time.I dont think i would like to go to the pub with you,in fact i think not even your friends like going to the pub with you.But thanks for your "insght" anyway ...RegardsThis not negativity my friend - . This is highlighting what is likely to happen when players are missing and at the same time playing strong sides. . Injuries can cost you promotion and can also get you relagated, rather like bad refereeing decisions of which can do the same. . At the moment we have Elphick, Daniels, Pugh, Arter and now possibly Grabban all out of the squad. . So with that said are you suggesting that with these people missing it will not make any difference at all ? . re-read the post and assess it on its merits of what is being said and not look at it in a negative way. . Some people have already managed to answer it sensibly. . Regards
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Yes I do attend games, perhaps more than you believe sometimes two or three games in a week.
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Some people have already managed to answer my post sensibly and address the issues contained therein. We have severe injury problems of which will impact on us over the few games and could cost us promotion as far as results are concerned.
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That is all my posts was trying to put over. Then we encounter twerps like you who cannot answer the thing properly. Regards
When compiling your report do you tell your employer constantly, that they will struggle to beat the opposition for whatever reason or do you look for negatives in the team you are scouting.
The reason i ask is because if it is the latter then that would explain your negative views, as that is what presumably you are paid to do, watch football and look for negatives. Correct.
smhinto
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2:16pm Thu 28 Feb 13
nicoAFCB wrote:Very true and a valid point, but MacDonald as useful as he is, is not the same type of player as Arter. Therefore a change of stratgedy will be in order of which will disrupt us perhaps.
Smhinto like its been stated in previous posts we have decent replacements for all positions so why don't you do two things Firstly read other people's post and take them in (as these people actually go to our games therefore know what the players are like) and second focus on the positives rather than thinking we have elphick, Daniels, Pugh and grabban out try thinking about the decent replacements we have in Ritchie, Fraser, macdonald and Sheringham to come in!
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The lad Fraser is a good prospect but is not accustomed to the rigours of League One and may not last the pace over a susutained period of pressure when chasing promotion.
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Lastly of course Sheringham is not going to help us in the here and now.
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Regards
lofty1971
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2:18pm Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto
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2:44pm Thu 28 Feb 13
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:.A perfectly reasonable and sensible question of which I will answer properly, unlike some of the 'balloon heads' who cannot read and answer my posts properly.
smhinto wrote:Interesting point here for you shminto. When you are dispatched to a game to compile a dossier on a particular team, presumably you are doing this work on behalf of another club, correct. When compiling your report do you tell your employer constantly, that they will struggle to beat the opposition for whatever reason or do you look for negatives in the team you are scouting. The reason i ask is because if it is the latter then that would explain your negative views, as that is what presumably you are paid to do, watch football and look for negatives. Correct.phil1965 wrote:Nobody is disputing the job Ed and Jason are doing. . Yes I do attend games, perhaps more than you believe sometimes two or three games in a week. . Some people have already managed to answer my post sensibly and address the issues contained therein. We have severe injury problems of which will impact on us over the few games and could cost us promotion as far as results are concerned. . That is all my posts was trying to put over. Then we encounter twerps like you who cannot answer the thing properly. Regardssmhinto wrote:Idiot...you are just a wind up artist.Bottom line is everyone who goes to the games knows what the problem is.Eddie Howe and jason Tindall are,in my opinion working bloody miracles at dean court.I would just like you to be a bit more forward thinking and express abit more passion for the team.Most posters on here do.You do need to get to more games rather than listen to games on solent,whilst travelling around the country scouting for the dorset u8 girl guide team...Regardsphil1965 wrote: Sminto or whatever your name is.I read your comments and dont ever say anything.But today i feel compelled.Why the negative vibes man!,your not the manager(thank Christ)and you state the obvious that most fans on here seem to realise(defensive problems).The thing that gets on my tits is you seem a little bit smug,like your some sort of tactical genius with an amazing ability to be patronizing all at the same time.I dont think i would like to go to the pub with you,in fact i think not even your friends like going to the pub with you.But thanks for your "insght" anyway ...RegardsThis not negativity my friend - . This is highlighting what is likely to happen when players are missing and at the same time playing strong sides. . Injuries can cost you promotion and can also get you relagated, rather like bad refereeing decisions of which can do the same. . At the moment we have Elphick, Daniels, Pugh, Arter and now possibly Grabban all out of the squad. . So with that said are you suggesting that with these people missing it will not make any difference at all ? . re-read the post and assess it on its merits of what is being said and not look at it in a negative way. . Some people have already managed to answer it sensibly. . Regards
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The idea of doing a report on potential opposition is firstly report on their formation plus i.e. 4-4-2 etc, any changes to that during the game, noting substitutions and if that effects a change of system.
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All set pieces are noted ie. who takes them and who is takes up what position the box regarding corners and free kicks.
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All players heights are noted especially the keeper. The keeper is noted as to what foot he takes his goalkicks with as this could affect the curvature of the ball and where it lands and distance etc.
Perceived strengths and weaknesses are reported on, shape of play etc, i.e weather the fullback and standing up in position or pushing on etc, turns of centre halfs etc, speed of wide players etc.
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It is also noted if the side has any injuries by checking there previous line-ups etc. and what ares to exploit. I.e noting weather a side has a reserve keeper on the bench or not. There fore the keeper could find himself the centre of attention from incoming forwards etc.
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The whole object of scouting is to report on what you SEE and not what you THINK. Although we do have an observations column where your personal view can be noted.
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Regards
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Cherryfan
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2:53pm Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto
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2:55pm Thu 28 Feb 13
Cherryfan wrote:Highly unlikley that 3pts will be gained at Orient i fear. Too many people missing to make an impact. But i sincerely do share your hopes.
I agree with the posters earlier that see the benefit of Arter now suspended for a couple of games. Hopefully people like MacDonald will establish themselves again and we don't see Arter on the field for the remainder of this season. McQuid for me is another who gives little to the team and should be put back on the bench. Can't make my mind up between Chicken and Tubbs, both have their faults. Hoping for a surprise Saturday and 3 points at Orient.
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Regards
Justin Otherfan
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3:03pm Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:Smhinto I think you underestimate Fraser. You say he is not accustomed to the "rigours" of League 1! I presume then that your travels never take you to SPL matches. I have followed the SPL for many years and I can guarantee it is rigorous. It is played at pace and can often resemble something more like rugby. Fraser picked up player of the month awards in this league and I can guarantee that Aberdeen are the only team up there glad to see him go. If he is fully fit I am sure he will be up to the task. I think you should watch him play before making judgements like that.
nicoAFCB wrote:Very true and a valid point, but MacDonald as useful as he is, is not the same type of player as Arter. Therefore a change of stratgedy will be in order of which will disrupt us perhaps.
Smhinto like its been stated in previous posts we have decent replacements for all positions so why don't you do two things Firstly read other people's post and take them in (as these people actually go to our games therefore know what the players are like) and second focus on the positives rather than thinking we have elphick, Daniels, Pugh and grabban out try thinking about the decent replacements we have in Ritchie, Fraser, macdonald and Sheringham to come in!
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The lad Fraser is a good prospect but is not accustomed to the rigours of League One and may not last the pace over a susutained period of pressure when chasing promotion.
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Lastly of course Sheringham is not going to help us in the here and now.
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Regards
smhinto
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3:10pm Thu 28 Feb 13
Justin Otherfan wrote:Fair point and a sensible response. I do hope i am wrong about Fraser who I believe to be a good prospect in the future.
smhinto wrote:Smhinto I think you underestimate Fraser. You say he is not accustomed to the "rigours" of League 1! I presume then that your travels never take you to SPL matches. I have followed the SPL for many years and I can guarantee it is rigorous. It is played at pace and can often resemble something more like rugby. Fraser picked up player of the month awards in this league and I can guarantee that Aberdeen are the only team up there glad to see him go. If he is fully fit I am sure he will be up to the task. I think you should watch him play before making judgements like that.nicoAFCB wrote: Smhinto like its been stated in previous posts we have decent replacements for all positions so why don't you do two things Firstly read other people's post and take them in (as these people actually go to our games therefore know what the players are like) and second focus on the positives rather than thinking we have elphick, Daniels, Pugh and grabban out try thinking about the decent replacements we have in Ritchie, Fraser, macdonald and Sheringham to come in!Very true and a valid point, but MacDonald as useful as he is, is not the same type of player as Arter. Therefore a change of stratgedy will be in order of which will disrupt us perhaps. . The lad Fraser is a good prospect but is not accustomed to the rigours of League One and may not last the pace over a susutained period of pressure when chasing promotion. . Lastly of course Sheringham is not going to help us in the here and now. . Regards
phil1965
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3:20pm Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:Im sorry for being so ignorant towards you.You are a genius and we mere fans should salute you and your vastly superior knowledge and wisdom about the game,just a shame your a souless git.The fans are the heart of the club and you my "friend"are a pillock of mahoosive proportions.I simply dont give a **** about your match views.I just care about my club and thank all thats holy your not its manager.Up the cherries and heres to 3pts on saturday
Cherryfan wrote:Highly unlikley that 3pts will be gained at Orient i fear. Too many people missing to make an impact. But i sincerely do share your hopes.
I agree with the posters earlier that see the benefit of Arter now suspended for a couple of games. Hopefully people like MacDonald will establish themselves again and we don't see Arter on the field for the remainder of this season. McQuid for me is another who gives little to the team and should be put back on the bench. Can't make my mind up between Chicken and Tubbs, both have their faults. Hoping for a surprise Saturday and 3 points at Orient.
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Regards
Piston_Broke
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3:25pm Thu 28 Feb 13
Justin Otherfan wrote:Presume you mean every team except Aberdeen!
smhinto wrote:Smhinto I think you underestimate Fraser. You say he is not accustomed to the "rigours" of League 1! I presume then that your travels never take you to SPL matches. I have followed the SPL for many years and I can guarantee it is rigorous. It is played at pace and can often resemble something more like rugby. Fraser picked up player of the month awards in this league and I can guarantee that Aberdeen are the only team up there glad to see him go. If he is fully fit I am sure he will be up to the task. I think you should watch him play before making judgements like that.
nicoAFCB wrote:Very true and a valid point, but MacDonald as useful as he is, is not the same type of player as Arter. Therefore a change of stratgedy will be in order of which will disrupt us perhaps.
Smhinto like its been stated in previous posts we have decent replacements for all positions so why don't you do two things Firstly read other people's post and take them in (as these people actually go to our games therefore know what the players are like) and second focus on the positives rather than thinking we have elphick, Daniels, Pugh and grabban out try thinking about the decent replacements we have in Ritchie, Fraser, macdonald and Sheringham to come in!
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The lad Fraser is a good prospect but is not accustomed to the rigours of League One and may not last the pace over a susutained period of pressure when chasing promotion.
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Lastly of course Sheringham is not going to help us in the here and now.
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Regards
MJPJC
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4:22pm Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:I don't often visit this forum but did today as I missed Tuesdays game through illness and was interested in the feeling of supporters. However it seems to be the same old stuff going back and forth with rude insults etc. One thing that I don't understand SMHinto is why you actually bother posting on here. I'm not being rude I simply don't understand what enjoyment you get from it, it seems to be the same old stuff to me and will be a while again before I bother watching.
Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful.
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It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm.
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Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points.
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Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable.
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I believe a couple more loans may well be required.
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Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong.
Regards
MJPJC
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4:23pm Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:I don't often visit this forum but did today as I missed Tuesdays game through illness and was interested in the feeling of supporters. However it seems to be the same old stuff going back and forth with rude insults etc. One thing that I don't understand SMHinto is why you actually bother posting on here. I'm not being rude I simply don't understand what enjoyment you get from it, it seems to be the same old stuff to me and will be a while again before I bother watching.
Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful.
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It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm.
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Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points.
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Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable.
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I believe a couple more loans may well be required.
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Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong.
Regards
raybren
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4:30pm Thu 28 Feb 13
You didn't answer my question about who despatched you to Burton? (or is it
covered by the Official Secrets Act?)
Must commend you on your spelllllllng and your fine use of the English language = "twit","twerps","emp
ty heads","balloon heads".
I'm sure the Echo are going to give you
your own column soon!
charlie2004
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5:23pm Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:What makes you believe Fraser will be a good prospect in the future. You haven't seen him play, unless of course you've been watching him on Youtube. You really do trip yourself up don't you!
Justin Otherfan wrote:Fair point and a sensible response. I do hope i am wrong about Fraser who I believe to be a good prospect in the future.
smhinto wrote:Smhinto I think you underestimate Fraser. You say he is not accustomed to the "rigours" of League 1! I presume then that your travels never take you to SPL matches. I have followed the SPL for many years and I can guarantee it is rigorous. It is played at pace and can often resemble something more like rugby. Fraser picked up player of the month awards in this league and I can guarantee that Aberdeen are the only team up there glad to see him go. If he is fully fit I am sure he will be up to the task. I think you should watch him play before making judgements like that.nicoAFCB wrote: Smhinto like its been stated in previous posts we have decent replacements for all positions so why don't you do two things Firstly read other people's post and take them in (as these people actually go to our games therefore know what the players are like) and second focus on the positives rather than thinking we have elphick, Daniels, Pugh and grabban out try thinking about the decent replacements we have in Ritchie, Fraser, macdonald and Sheringham to come in!Very true and a valid point, but MacDonald as useful as he is, is not the same type of player as Arter. Therefore a change of stratgedy will be in order of which will disrupt us perhaps. . The lad Fraser is a good prospect but is not accustomed to the rigours of League One and may not last the pace over a susutained period of pressure when chasing promotion. . Lastly of course Sheringham is not going to help us in the here and now. . Regards
AFCBade
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6:12pm Thu 28 Feb 13
I clearly state missing elphick and Daniels is a big blow and is the root of the problems. However the normally outstanding arter looks tired and I think giving him a breather will help the team
You are negative as you think fans predicting a win over orient are "empty heads", cheers! Moreover you say we will lose to Doncaster, a team struggling to get wins together.
In short we are weakened but have players to come in and perform.
Up the cherries !!
smhinto
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6:24pm Thu 28 Feb 13
charlie2004 wrote:What makes me believe that Fraser is one for the future is simply because of his age. One does not thrust young players into a pressurised situation and expect him to play 90 minutes game in and game out. You will simply burn hm out. Yong player need to be nurtured.
smhinto wrote:What makes you believe Fraser will be a good prospect in the future. You haven't seen him play, unless of course you've been watching him on Youtube. You really do trip yourself up don't you!
Justin Otherfan wrote:Fair point and a sensible response. I do hope i am wrong about Fraser who I believe to be a good prospect in the future.
smhinto wrote:Smhinto I think you underestimate Fraser. You say he is not accustomed to the "rigours" of League 1! I presume then that your travels never take you to SPL matches. I have followed the SPL for many years and I can guarantee it is rigorous. It is played at pace and can often resemble something more like rugby. Fraser picked up player of the month awards in this league and I can guarantee that Aberdeen are the only team up there glad to see him go. If he is fully fit I am sure he will be up to the task. I think you should watch him play before making judgements like that.nicoAFCB wrote: Smhinto like its been stated in previous posts we have decent replacements for all positions so why don't you do two things Firstly read other people's post and take them in (as these people actually go to our games therefore know what the players are like) and second focus on the positives rather than thinking we have elphick, Daniels, Pugh and grabban out try thinking about the decent replacements we have in Ritchie, Fraser, macdonald and Sheringham to come in!Very true and a valid point, but MacDonald as useful as he is, is not the same type of player as Arter. Therefore a change of stratgedy will be in order of which will disrupt us perhaps. . The lad Fraser is a good prospect but is not accustomed to the rigours of League One and may not last the pace over a susutained period of pressure when chasing promotion. . Lastly of course Sheringham is not going to help us in the here and now. . Regards
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Please try to see the sense in this.
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Yes your are right I have not seen him play, but common sense rules here.
nonnogeppetto
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6:30pm Thu 28 Feb 13
Is this the final episode or does the drama continues? Can I look forward to some more thrilling stuff in tomorrow's articles?
Oh dear oh dear. Some people seem thrive on depressive thoughts!!!
Court Side
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6:30pm Thu 28 Feb 13
Cherryfan wrote:Are you serious that you hope not to see Arter again this season? He's been one of our best players throughout this campaign! I admit he's gone off the boil a little lately and thought if it wasn't for his suspension then maybe it might be time to give him a rest but,seriously,why the negativity towards him? Some supporters make similar comments about Addison and i find it quite strange when they're slagging off good,honest pro's that where the red and black.I mean everyone's entitled to their opinion but,in short,they're wrong!
I agree with the posters earlier that see the benefit of Arter now suspended for a couple of games. Hopefully people like MacDonald will establish themselves again and we don't see Arter on the field for the remainder of this season. McQuid for me is another who gives little to the team and should be put back on the bench. Can't make my mind up between Chicken and Tubbs, both have their faults. Hoping for a surprise Saturday and 3 points at Orient.
smhinto
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6:35pm Thu 28 Feb 13
raybren wrote:I am afraid that who sent me to Burton will remain with me. I do not have any affinity with the club(s) that I work for. One works for the chief scout whatever club he represents. i.e one is working for the person and not the club.
Shminto;
You didn't answer my question about who despatched you to Burton? (or is it
covered by the Official Secrets Act?)
Must commend you on your spelllllllng and your fine use of the English language = "twit","twerps"
,"emp
ty heads","balloon heads".
I'm sure the Echo are going to give you
your own column soon!
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Confidentiality is along the lines of when scouts meet each other at grounds it is deemed most impolite for one scout to ask another why he is there. It is one of two things either looking at oppsition or doing a
player(s) report.
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Many clubs like to do scouting business without anybody knowing especially where players are involved. So there is a fair degree of confidentiality involved.
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Regards to you
smhinto
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6:41pm Thu 28 Feb 13
nonnogeppetto wrote:Dear Nonno
Thank God I had some elderly people to take care of today and not had the time to switch on my PC!
Is this the final episode or does the drama continues? Can I look forward to some more thrilling stuff in tomorrow's articles?
Oh dear oh dear. Some people seem thrive on depressive thoughts!!!
I was waiting for you to post. I would like to pass on to you my sincere heartfelt condolences regarding your Brother's passing.
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I have been through something similar so I have some idea how you feel.
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But I suppose that life has an uncanny way of carrying on.
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Kindest regards
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RICHSKI
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6:46pm Thu 28 Feb 13
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
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6:48pm Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:Dont care who sent you to Burton, but i think about 95% on here would like to send you to Coventry.
raybren wrote:I am afraid that who sent me to Burton will remain with me. I do not have any affinity with the club(s) that I work for. One works for the chief scout whatever club he represents. i.e one is working for the person and not the club.
Shminto;
You didn't answer my question about who despatched you to Burton? (or is it
covered by the Official Secrets Act?)
Must commend you on your spelllllllng and your fine use of the English language = "twit","twerps"
,"emp
ty heads","balloon heads".
I'm sure the Echo are going to give you
your own column soon!
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Confidentiality is along the lines of when scouts meet each other at grounds it is deemed most impolite for one scout to ask another why he is there. It is one of two things either looking at oppsition or doing a
player(s) report.
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Many clubs like to do scouting business without anybody knowing especially where players are involved. So there is a fair degree of confidentiality involved.
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Regards to you
mossy 1
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7:38pm Thu 28 Feb 13
1)during our fantastic rise from bottom to top we overcame a massive 19 point deficit over roughly 20 games,i.e approx one point per game give or take.There are still 11 games to go,and given we are four points away from top spot and I reckon that we could still win the league by six points,meaning we could wrap it up against Carlisle rather than a week later.We`ve done it before,no reason why that run can`t be replicated.
2)If we get promoted we will have our first season at championship level for 20 years to firstly celebrate and secondly look forward to.If we should fail to get promoted by not getting into the auto-spots,winning play-offs or even narrowly missing out on the p-off`s then we will probably have one of our most eagerly expectant season for many ,many years(10/11 excepted)What odds from the bookies?
Either way folks ,despite the current despondency affecting some,let`s look to the future and turn our thoughts to August and just think of what the forthcoming season may bring regardless of which league we might be in.
Justin Otherfan
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7:45pm Thu 28 Feb 13
Piston_Broke wrote:It was supposed to say Aberdeen were SAD to see him go, but my iPhone decided I wanted to say something else.
Justin Otherfan wrote:Presume you mean every team except Aberdeen!
smhinto wrote:Smhinto I think you underestimate Fraser. You say he is not accustomed to the "rigours" of League 1! I presume then that your travels never take you to SPL matches. I have followed the SPL for many years and I can guarantee it is rigorous. It is played at pace and can often resemble something more like rugby. Fraser picked up player of the month awards in this league and I can guarantee that Aberdeen are the only team up there glad to see him go. If he is fully fit I am sure he will be up to the task. I think you should watch him play before making judgements like that.
nicoAFCB wrote:Very true and a valid point, but MacDonald as useful as he is, is not the same type of player as Arter. Therefore a change of stratgedy will be in order of which will disrupt us perhaps.
Smhinto like its been stated in previous posts we have decent replacements for all positions so why don't you do two things Firstly read other people's post and take them in (as these people actually go to our games therefore know what the players are like) and second focus on the positives rather than thinking we have elphick, Daniels, Pugh and grabban out try thinking about the decent replacements we have in Ritchie, Fraser, macdonald and Sheringham to come in!
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The lad Fraser is a good prospect but is not accustomed to the rigours of League One and may not last the pace over a susutained period of pressure when chasing promotion.
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Lastly of course Sheringham is not going to help us in the here and now.
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Regards
Smhinto, you say he needs nurtured. Fraser was playing full matches in the SPL. He is more than ready to play full matches for us. How many footballers are playing regular first team football at 19! He looked sharp against Coventry. Don't nurture him, unleash him! Come and see him play some time. It may even make you optimistic about the club! UTC
nonnogeppetto
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7:46pm Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:many thanks for your kind thoughts smhinto it puts everything into its proper perspective. My dear brother loved football and I recall going with him to watch his son play for a local team in Pescara (It) you should have heard him shouting instructions you would have thought he was the team manager Bless him.
nonnogeppetto wrote:Dear Nonno
Thank God I had some elderly people to take care of today and not had the time to switch on my PC!
Is this the final episode or does the drama continues? Can I look forward to some more thrilling stuff in tomorrow's articles?
Oh dear oh dear. Some people seem thrive on depressive thoughts!!!
I was waiting for you to post. I would like to pass on to you my sincere heartfelt condolences regarding your Brother's passing.
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I have been through something similar so I have some idea how you feel.
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But I suppose that life has an uncanny way of carrying on.
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Kindest regards
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The game of football that we all love to watch is very frustrating at times especially when some of the influencing factors such as players missing (for whatever reason) bad decisions by the referee, professional misconduct by opposing players etc they can and will change the outcome of a game.
We all hope that our team will win on Saturday and many games thereafter but is not be the end of the world if things don't turn out for us in the way that we want to. UTCIAD
Kind regards
trevsheadband
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7:47pm Thu 28 Feb 13
Frankiesbackfromhollywood
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7:54pm Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:Doncaster away?? flippin heck, you haven't seen this team under Howe, you have no idea about these players and what they can do, we are a very different side to the one we were back then!! all your remarks are made from distance based on what you have heard or picked up from others!! The way you post you would think you were there at every training session, I know now not to take anything you say with any credence, there is no substance to it, watching Burton on a Tuesday night doesn't make you an expert on the Cherries!!!
FrankiesbackfromhollAnd how wouild you know what AFCB games i attend. Th last game i saw was Doncaster awal
ywood wrote:
smhinto wrote:BUT YOU DON'T EVEN GO TO THE CHERRIES MATCHES!!! You were at Burton weren't you Tuesday night? you don't know anything about this team as you never see them play, do not call real fans air-heads because they have faith in their team and are confident of a win, according to you so far this season we should be rock bottom, I have yet to see you predict a positive result!!AFCBade wrote:This not negativity my friend - . This is highlighting what is likely to happen when players are missing and at the same time playing strong sides. . Injuries can cost you promotion and can also get you relagated, rather like bad refereeing decisions of which can do the same. . At the moment we have Elphick, Daniels, Pugh, Arter and now possibly Grabban all out of the squad. . So with that said are you suggesting that with these people missing it will not make any difference at all ? . re-read the post and assess it on its merits of what is being said and not look at it in a negative way. . Some people have already managed to answer it sensibly. . Regardssmhinto wrote: Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful. . It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm. . Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points. . Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable. . I believe a couple more loans may well be required. . Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong. RegardsI am a patient and tolerant man so have never commented on your posts but even I am fed up with your negativity and eagerness to post such comments. Did you go Tuesday? I did and thought we were fantastic for the opening half an hour and should have been two or three up before we let in a break away goal. Think there are tired legs and a little bit of self doubt when we missed chances and conceded. Root of problem is absence of elphick and Daniels but there is enough quality to win Saturday. Arter is a key man but think a two game break will do wonders as he looks tired. Grabban didn't do much Tuesday so not the end of the world. Still confident of a play off spot !
AFCBade
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9:14pm Thu 28 Feb 13
mossy 1 wrote:Agree : don't forget after that Walsall defeat we were 13 points behind Tranmere and Doncaster and overcame that in 5 games. Still lots of points to be won and lost.
Time for some positivity methinks.
1)during our fantastic rise from bottom to top we overcame a massive 19 point deficit over roughly 20 games,i.e approx one point per game give or take.There are still 11 games to go,and given we are four points away from top spot and I reckon that we could still win the league by six points,meaning we could wrap it up against Carlisle rather than a week later.We`ve done it before,no reason why that run can`t be replicated.
2)If we get promoted we will have our first season at championship level for 20 years to firstly celebrate and secondly look forward to.If we should fail to get promoted by not getting into the auto-spots,winning play-offs or even narrowly missing out on the p-off`s then we will probably have one of our most eagerly expectant season for many ,many years(10/11 excepted)What odds from the bookies?
Either way folks ,despite the current despondency affecting some,let`s look to the future and turn our thoughts to August and just think of what the forthcoming season may bring regardless of which league we might be in.
We may well lose Saturday but I am really looking forward to the game. That is what football should be about.
CherryFarmer
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9:38pm Thu 28 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:What a pathetic and pointless job. If clubs rely on information like this it says a lot about the poor state of coaching and management in this country...i mean, no goalkeeper on the bench so try to injure the goalie on the pitch!!!! Get real.
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:.A perfectly reasonable and sensible question of which I will answer properly, unlike some of the 'balloon heads' who cannot read and answer my posts properly.
smhinto wrote:Interesting point here for you shminto. When you are dispatched to a game to compile a dossier on a particular team, presumably you are doing this work on behalf of another club, correct. When compiling your report do you tell your employer constantly, that they will struggle to beat the opposition for whatever reason or do you look for negatives in the team you are scouting. The reason i ask is because if it is the latter then that would explain your negative views, as that is what presumably you are paid to do, watch football and look for negatives. Correct.phil1965 wrote:Nobody is disputing the job Ed and Jason are doing. . Yes I do attend games, perhaps more than you believe sometimes two or three games in a week. . Some people have already managed to answer my post sensibly and address the issues contained therein. We have severe injury problems of which will impact on us over the few games and could cost us promotion as far as results are concerned. . That is all my posts was trying to put over. Then we encounter twerps like you who cannot answer the thing properly. Regardssmhinto wrote:Idiot...you are just a wind up artist.Bottom line is everyone who goes to the games knows what the problem is.Eddie Howe and jason Tindall are,in my opinion working bloody miracles at dean court.I would just like you to be a bit more forward thinking and express abit more passion for the team.Most posters on here do.You do need to get to more games rather than listen to games on solent,whilst travelling around the country scouting for the dorset u8 girl guide team...Regardsphil1965 wrote: Sminto or whatever your name is.I read your comments and dont ever say anything.But today i feel compelled.Why the negative vibes man!,your not the manager(thank Christ)and you state the obvious that most fans on here seem to realise(defensive problems).The thing that gets on my tits is you seem a little bit smug,like your some sort of tactical genius with an amazing ability to be patronizing all at the same time.I dont think i would like to go to the pub with you,in fact i think not even your friends like going to the pub with you.But thanks for your "insght" anyway ...RegardsThis not negativity my friend - . This is highlighting what is likely to happen when players are missing and at the same time playing strong sides. . Injuries can cost you promotion and can also get you relagated, rather like bad refereeing decisions of which can do the same. . At the moment we have Elphick, Daniels, Pugh, Arter and now possibly Grabban all out of the squad. . So with that said are you suggesting that with these people missing it will not make any difference at all ? . re-read the post and assess it on its merits of what is being said and not look at it in a negative way. . Some people have already managed to answer it sensibly. . Regards
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The idea of doing a report on potential opposition is firstly report on their formation plus i.e. 4-4-2 etc, any changes to that during the game, noting substitutions and if that effects a change of system.
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All set pieces are noted ie. who takes them and who is takes up what position the box regarding corners and free kicks.
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All players heights are noted especially the keeper. The keeper is noted as to what foot he takes his goalkicks with as this could affect the curvature of the ball and where it lands and distance etc.
Perceived strengths and weaknesses are reported on, shape of play etc, i.e weather the fullback and standing up in position or pushing on etc, turns of centre halfs etc, speed of wide players etc.
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It is also noted if the side has any injuries by checking there previous line-ups etc. and what ares to exploit. I.e noting weather a side has a reserve keeper on the bench or not. There fore the keeper could find himself the centre of attention from incoming forwards etc.
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The whole object of scouting is to report on what you SEE and not what you THINK. Although we do have an observations column where your personal view can be noted.
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Regards
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No two games are the same. They always depend on the team you are playing against, the players against you, the weather conditions and your own tactics on the day.
I sat near the scout that the cherries used under Bradders (the big guy who got sacked for some misdemeanour, i forget his name) and he had a huge dossier on the opposition that day, including positions that they took up for corners and freekicks....and guess what, the positions taken up on the pitch were completely different as the opposition had changed their tactics. It meant also that we conceded 2 goals to set pieces as we were in the wrong positions!!! Players are bombarded with scouting rubbish and not allowed to think and read the game.
Also, your constant remarks about us losing games because of injuries are only valid if the opposition are at full strength. You seem to make no thought that the opposition may also be weakened by injuries and suspensions....we are not the only team to lose players....but we have a much stronger squad that most clubs in this division.
Regards
raybren
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10:54pm Thu 28 Feb 13
you are a very clever scout! Posting on
here at the same time as you are absorbed in watching the games you have been "despatched" to.
Me thinks your scouting is more connected to rendezvousing with girl guides!
Dib dib dob Regards
stevobath
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10:27pm Tue 5 Mar 13
FrankiesbackfromhollI hope Shminto the 'OPTOMIST' has seen tonights results? LOL...
ywood wrote:
smhinto wrote:Doncaster away?? flippin heck, you haven't seen this team under Howe, you have no idea about these players and what they can do, we are a very different side to the one we were back then!! all your remarks are made from distance based on what you have heard or picked up from others!! The way you post you would think you were there at every training session, I know now not to take anything you say with any credence, there is no substance to it, watching Burton on a Tuesday night doesn't make you an expert on the Cherries!!!
FrankiesbackfromhollAnd how wouild you know what AFCB games i attend. Th last game i saw was Doncaster awal
ywood wrote:
smhinto wrote:BUT YOU DON'T EVEN GO TO THE CHERRIES MATCHES!!! You were at Burton weren't you Tuesday night? you don't know anything about this team as you never see them play, do not call real fans air-heads because they have faith in their team and are confident of a win, according to you so far this season we should be rock bottom, I have yet to see you predict a positive result!!AFCBade wrote:This not negativity my friend - . This is highlighting what is likely to happen when players are missing and at the same time playing strong sides. . Injuries can cost you promotion and can also get you relagated, rather like bad refereeing decisions of which can do the same. . At the moment we have Elphick, Daniels, Pugh, Arter and now possibly Grabban all out of the squad. . So with that said are you suggesting that with these people missing it will not make any difference at all ? . re-read the post and assess it on its merits of what is being said and not look at it in a negative way. . Some people have already managed to answer it sensibly. . Regardssmhinto wrote: Well - Here we go again!!, On top of having Elphick and Daniels missing, we now have Arter out and Grabban doubtful. . It is noted that Arter did not have a good game on Tuesday but when on song he is irriplaceable. Fair enough we have MacDonlad and Hughes, but they are not the same type of player. So a slight formation change will be enforced, therefore possible disrupting our rhythm. . Despite this there will still be some 'empty heads' on here who will be expecting us to travel away to Orient on Saturday and still get a result despite the fact that injury problems have more or less cost us a possible 9 points. . Having both Arter and possibly Grabban missing will compound the problem more. Arter will also be missing for the Doncaster game which will also be lost through people being unavailable. . I believe a couple more loans may well be required. . Naturally of course i do hope i am wrong. RegardsI am a patient and tolerant man so have never commented on your posts but even I am fed up with your negativity and eagerness to post such comments. Did you go Tuesday? I did and thought we were fantastic for the opening half an hour and should have been two or three up before we let in a break away goal. Think there are tired legs and a little bit of self doubt when we missed chances and conceded. Root of problem is absence of elphick and Daniels but there is enough quality to win Saturday. Arter is a key man but think a two game break will do wonders as he looks tired. Grabban didn't do much Tuesday so not the end of the world. Still confident of a play off spot !
I've NEVE seen him make anacurate forcast.Best one was,The team that scores 1st will win,unless the other team equalises or gets moe goal than the other team....you've obviously seen his revealing inciteful posts? LMAO...UTCIAD.
We WILL beat Donny 2-1.
stevobath
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10:37pm Tue 5 Mar 13
Aren't the 2 papers linked? Is it done on purpose? Sort it out.Its been going on for ages now & its tedious going though every post checing for missing letters u unch o C NT$... :)
afcbtintin says...
7:12am Thu 28 Feb 13
Artur was pants on Tuesday. sadly he won't be missed.
UTCIAD