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Cherries: Howe pondering a defensive loan recruit
7:00am Monday 11th February 2013 in Latest Sport
By Neil Perrett
MANAGER Eddie Howe could be forced to dip into the loan market in a bid to bolster Cherries’ diminishing defensive resources.
Howe has admitted a lack of cover at full-back has been “an area of concern for a while” with injury to Charlie Daniels exacerbating the situation recently.
Daniels has missed Cherries’ past three games due to a persistent foot problem with new signing Matt Ritchie making his home debut at left-back during Saturday’s win over Portsmouth.
And while Ritchie, who prefers to play on the wing, proved an able deputy against Pompey, boss Howe is likely to draft in cover should Daniels be sidelined long term.
Daniels, a key performer in Cherries’ revival under Howe, had been playing through the pain barrier since taking a blow to his right foot during the FA Cup clash at Wigan last month.
And although an initial scan revealed the Londoner had not sustained any serious damage, Daniels is still feeling some discomfort and has been unable to hit the comeback trail.
Speaking to the Daily Echo following Cherries’ win over Pompey, Howe said: “We are waiting to see how Charlie settles down over the weekend before re-assessing him on Monday. We haven’t been able to push him on with his rehab so are a little concerned about him at the moment.”
Asked whether he would consider delving into the loan market should Daniels prove to be weeks rather than days, Howe replied: “Yes, I think we would look to do something but it is not definite.
“It has been an area of concern for a while in terms of our full-back cover even when we had both full-backs fit. We are fortunate to have brought in Matt Ritchie and he is able to play there. But I think we would need a recognised left-back if Charlie were to be out long term.
“I thought Matt was excellent, both with and without the ball. To come to a new club and play out of position is not easy but he has done it with no problems. He has accepted it and is a real team player. That is really pleasing for the future, regardless of where he plays.”
Howe, meanwhile, had encouraging news to report on skipper Tommy Elphick, who was ruled out against Pompey after sustaining a knee injury when he was caught by Ryan Lowe’s horror tackle at MK Dons.
Although Howe said Elphick had been “nowhere near” being available to face Pompey, the Cherries boss revealed the linchpin central defender may be in contention for tomorrow’s trip to Crewe.
Howe said: “His knee was sore and, when he tried running on Thursday, it just didn’t feel right when he was twisting and turning. He has settled down in the past couple of days and has improved so we will try to get him ready for Tuesday.”
- Cherries will host Southern League Premier Division outfit AFC Totton in the semi-final of the Hampshire Senior Cup next month.
Comments(42)
Frankiesbackfromhollywood
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7:25am Mon 11 Feb 13
Fanfor45
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7:35am Mon 11 Feb 13
FrankiesbackfromhollZubar is more of a full back than Daniels' current deputy and him returning might allow Cook to deputise for Daniels and Zubar to partner Seaborne or Elphick. I'm biased towards Zubar as I think he is a class defender and we lose him to Bury just as we might have used him. A misjudgement perhaps but not a mistake.
ywood wrote:
Zubar isn't a full back, the mistake was to let Groves have the squad for a few months and nonse up the balance of players, anyhow Elphick could be back Tuesday so Seaborne will revert to full back, can't see a mistake from Howe here at all!!
eaststandman
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7:42am Mon 11 Feb 13
Call him back off loan or sell him.
Frankiesbackfromhollywood
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8:27am Mon 11 Feb 13
jontee
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9:12am Mon 11 Feb 13
Mike Oxbig
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9:30am Mon 11 Feb 13
jontee wrote:What's wrong with keeping Ritchie at left back and Seabourne in the middle, until Daniels is fit? I'd rather see Seabourne in at centre back than Zubar. He always made me nervous when he was on the ball.
Much as I like Zubar, I agree he's not a left back. But if we still had him we could use Seabourne at left back. The decision to send Zubar away will keep coming back to haunt Eddie.
bonzodog25
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9:49am Mon 11 Feb 13
Kinsonite
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10:23am Mon 11 Feb 13
It would normally make sense to have him back even just as cover, what happens if someone else in defence gets cropped?
Ashleyafcb
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10:32am Mon 11 Feb 13
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
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10:58am Mon 11 Feb 13
Ashleyafcb wrote:Wiggins would not be made welcome back at DC, he proved what a mercenary he is when he put in a transfer request mid-season. Personally i would rather play Fletch at left back than have that greedy little t*** back.
Well there is two players who i can personally see in this position both ex players 1st Jason Pearce can play lb and isnt being played much at leeds and one i wouldnt like to see back but is wiggins not a fan of him but not being played and friends with eddie howe could happen
Trust Eddie to sort this, thats what he is paid to do, and is doing a very good job of it as well.
Dan Seaborne is a great addition to the squad, looks calm on the ball and a real presence at the back, far better than Zubar.
Eddie's dog
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11:09am Mon 11 Feb 13
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:Agree - It would be great to see Fletch at left back; so entertaining.
Ashleyafcb wrote:Wiggins would not be made welcome back at DC, he proved what a mercenary he is when he put in a transfer request mid-season. Personally i would rather play Fletch at left back than have that greedy little t*** back.
Well there is two players who i can personally see in this position both ex players 1st Jason Pearce can play lb and isnt being played much at leeds and one i wouldnt like to see back but is wiggins not a fan of him but not being played and friends with eddie howe could happen
Trust Eddie to sort this, thats what he is paid to do, and is doing a very good job of it as well.
Dan Seaborne is a great addition to the squad, looks calm on the ball and a real presence at the back, far better than Zubar.
We probably would still get automatic promotion, but in a 'fun way'......
denisjames
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11:56am Mon 11 Feb 13
Fanfor45 wrote:I couldn't agree more. Goodness knows what has gone on behind the scenes for Zubar to be ignored. Perhaps the Echo can find out.
FrankiesbackfromhollZubar is more of a full back than Daniels' current deputy and him returning might allow Cook to deputise for Daniels and Zubar to partner Seaborne or Elphick. I'm biased towards Zubar as I think he is a class defender and we lose him to Bury just as we might have used him. A misjudgement perhaps but not a mistake.
ywood wrote:
Zubar isn't a full back, the mistake was to let Groves have the squad for a few months and nonse up the balance of players, anyhow Elphick could be back Tuesday so Seaborne will revert to full back, can't see a mistake from Howe here at all!!
bobsworthforever
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12:08pm Mon 11 Feb 13
lymicherry
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12:11pm Mon 11 Feb 13
smhinto
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12:12pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Kinsonite wrote:I believe you will fond that Ed cannot recall Zubar as part of his loan deal. It depends on the terms of his loan weather or not he can be recalled.
I personally think Howe did make a misjudgement in sending Zubar on loan to Bury and the fact he is not apparently considering recalling him tells us that he doesn't rate him that much and he doesn't feature in Eddie's plans. It would normally make sense to have him back even just as cover, what happens if someone else in defence gets cropped?
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Regards
harrythered
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12:35pm Mon 11 Feb 13
nonnogeppetto
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1:27pm Mon 11 Feb 13
hedge end bob
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1:43pm Mon 11 Feb 13
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:Dan Seabourne would be a very good player for you if you sign him at the end of the season. Vast experience in this league and already has 5 promotions under his belt.
Ashleyafcb wrote:Wiggins would not be made welcome back at DC, he proved what a mercenary he is when he put in a transfer request mid-season. Personally i would rather play Fletch at left back than have that greedy little t*** back.
Well there is two players who i can personally see in this position both ex players 1st Jason Pearce can play lb and isnt being played much at leeds and one i wouldnt like to see back but is wiggins not a fan of him but not being played and friends with eddie howe could happen
Trust Eddie to sort this, thats what he is paid to do, and is doing a very good job of it as well.
Dan Seaborne is a great addition to the squad, looks calm on the ball and a real presence at the back, far better than Zubar.
Glad for the lad and your club that Dan seems to have settled in and is helping you get to where you belong on present form.
Good luck tomorrow night, be great to see you looking down on everyone else.
Your manager will soon get this sorted, he's too good not too.
UTCIAD.
Ashleyafcb
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2:05pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Afcbpete
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2:10pm Mon 11 Feb 13
hedge end bob wrote:But Bob, we won't be in THIS league come next season, but agree, I'd certainly like to see him signed permanently, he's been as good as Cook or Elphick for me and that's saying something, because those 2 are outstanding!!!
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:Dan Seabourne would be a very good player for you if you sign him at the end of the season. Vast experience in this league and already has 5 promotions under his belt.
Ashleyafcb wrote:Wiggins would not be made welcome back at DC, he proved what a mercenary he is when he put in a transfer request mid-season. Personally i would rather play Fletch at left back than have that greedy little t*** back.
Well there is two players who i can personally see in this position both ex players 1st Jason Pearce can play lb and isnt being played much at leeds and one i wouldnt like to see back but is wiggins not a fan of him but not being played and friends with eddie howe could happen
Trust Eddie to sort this, thats what he is paid to do, and is doing a very good job of it as well.
Dan Seaborne is a great addition to the squad, looks calm on the ball and a real presence at the back, far better than Zubar.
Glad for the lad and your club that Dan seems to have settled in and is helping you get to where you belong on present form.
Good luck tomorrow night, be great to see you looking down on everyone else.
Your manager will soon get this sorted, he's too good not too.
UTCIAD.
greenshoes
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2:44pm Mon 11 Feb 13
bobsworthforever wrote:....think that was the idea with EH's thinking re; Zubar playing for us via Bury he's very astute as we know.
Bury have beaten Doncaster and drawn at Brentford since Zubar arrived leave him where he is Eddie hes doing a great job.
coops1965
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2:56pm Mon 11 Feb 13
I cannot believe the dribble that some of you lot come out with.
Eddie Howe should not be doubted or questioned for any of his decisions, because oh yes we are all qualified and experienced football managers aren't we ?
Eddie is second only to that Taggart impersonator that runs that little team up North somewhere so let us be clear,
in Eddie we trust, whatever decision he makes so stop trying to undermine his brilliant record because it speaks for itself !!
Justin Otherfan
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3:35pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Deejaycee
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3:47pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Piston_Broke
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3:53pm Mon 11 Feb 13
coops1965 wrote:Do you mean "drivel". If you do, then your post makes sense!
Unbelievable !!!!
I cannot believe the dribble that some of you lot come out with.
Eddie Howe should not be doubted or questioned for any of his decisions, because oh yes we are all qualified and experienced football managers aren't we ?
Eddie is second only to that Taggart impersonator that runs that little team up North somewhere so let us be clear,
in Eddie we trust, whatever decision he makes so stop trying to undermine his brilliant record because it speaks for itself !!
dc addict
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4:03pm Mon 11 Feb 13
lymicherry wrote:Well we are all entitled to our opinion and I disagree with you. Were you at Yeovil when he replaced Adam Barrett after 5 mins? Man of the match.
What's with all this admiration and adulation for Zubar? One memorable goal-saving tackle in a meaningless game against Notts County last season hardly merits the legend status which some fans appear to think appropriate. He's a (generally) competent journeyman centre back, but no more than that - and certainly not in the same class as Cook or Elphick.
Those who doubt Zubar's ball control must suffer a nervous brakdown when Miles Addison plays.
Eddie should have hung on to Zubar with Seaborne at Left Back and to all those who question our opinion compared to Eddie's, well, nobody is perfect, not even the man who saved this club 2 years ago and has now given us the chance of promotion this season.
tellarby
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4:06pm Mon 11 Feb 13
raybren
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4:09pm Mon 11 Feb 13
especially in the air.
I think the problem Eddie has with Zubar
is that he can look really good at times,
but there is always the chance of a costly error.
smhinto
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4:20pm Mon 11 Feb 13
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Regards
jontee
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5:06pm Mon 11 Feb 13
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At the end of the day, EH is the manager and will know more than us so we must bow to that knowledge.
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As for Seabourne, I was rather worried that he allowed a free header which should have put Pompey in the lead. Still, apart from that couldn't fault him.
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I assume the 'Fletch for fullback' idea wa in jest.
lymicherry
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5:19pm Mon 11 Feb 13
dc addict wrote:Fair point - I respect your views. And no, I didn't see the game to which you refer, so I'll happily defer to you on that one. As for Miles Addison, I suspect the jury's still out; he's a fine reader of the game, a decent ambassador and a respected leader of men, but I've seen oil tankers turn faster...
lymicherry wrote:Well we are all entitled to our opinion and I disagree with you. Were you at Yeovil when he replaced Adam Barrett after 5 mins? Man of the match.
What's with all this admiration and adulation for Zubar? One memorable goal-saving tackle in a meaningless game against Notts County last season hardly merits the legend status which some fans appear to think appropriate. He's a (generally) competent journeyman centre back, but no more than that - and certainly not in the same class as Cook or Elphick.
Those who doubt Zubar's ball control must suffer a nervous brakdown when Miles Addison plays.
Eddie should have hung on to Zubar with Seaborne at Left Back and to all those who question our opinion compared to Eddie's, well, nobody is perfect, not even the man who saved this club 2 years ago and has now given us the chance of promotion this season.
RED on tour
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5:27pm Mon 11 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:Didn't think I would be agreeing with you (your cup never runneth past half full and rarely gets that high), however, on Zubar your assessment is spot on. The only problem I saw with him was his distribution out of defence. A fine example of the type of problem that may be caused by such distribution was the goal Swindon scored against us.
I do rate Zubar, but from what I have seen of him at Plymouth his ability to clear his lines was good and effective, but the main thing I believe that is his downfall is his distribution from defence to midfield. I believe that is why Ed is wary of using him.
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Regards
Keep up the good work Smhimmy as the reaction from some on this forum to your posts lightens the winter gloom.
Ashleyafcb
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5:48pm Mon 11 Feb 13
nonnogeppetto
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6:19pm Mon 11 Feb 13
smhinto wrote:Smhinto I only seen him play a handful of times and I have to agree with your assessment, though unlike you I normally don't see the finer details in a player.
I do rate Zubar, but from what I have seen of him at Plymouth his ability to clear his lines was good and effective, but the main thing I believe that is his downfall is his distribution from defence to midfield. I believe that is why Ed is wary of using him.
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Regards
We all hope that Eddie has things well under control and also hope that Daniels will soon be fit again.
Kind Regards
dc addict
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8:00pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Ashleyafcb wrote:I'm sure he did want to leave and who can blame him. I've always rated Zubar but we must be aware that managers see things that we don't so fair play to them.
Has any one had the thought zubar wanted to leave ? lack of games must of been frustrating ... in this situation i blame mr Groves for letting Baudry go he was gutted when we released him and has proven himself at leyton orient now felt he could have been a top player
I do agree about young Baudry. He was never given a chance. Good luck to him.
the amazon returns again
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8:16pm Mon 11 Feb 13
FrankiesbackfromhollSeaborne is not a natural left back, he plays in the centre, we need an attacking left back etc
ywood wrote:
Zubar isn't a full back, the mistake was to let Groves have the squad for a few months and nonse up the balance of players, anyhow Elphick could be back Tuesday so Seaborne will revert to full back, can't see a mistake from Howe here at all!!
oxoncherry2
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10:08pm Mon 11 Feb 13
hedge end bob wrote:Thanks, HEB. We hope Soton can go on a run after that great win Sat.
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:Dan Seabourne would be a very good player for you if you sign him at the end of the season. Vast experience in this league and already has 5 promotions under his belt.
Ashleyafcb wrote:Wiggins would not be made welcome back at DC, he proved what a mercenary he is when he put in a transfer request mid-season. Personally i would rather play Fletch at left back than have that greedy little t*** back.
Well there is two players who i can personally see in this position both ex players 1st Jason Pearce can play lb and isnt being played much at leeds and one i wouldnt like to see back but is wiggins not a fan of him but not being played and friends with eddie howe could happen
Trust Eddie to sort this, thats what he is paid to do, and is doing a very good job of it as well.
Dan Seaborne is a great addition to the squad, looks calm on the ball and a real presence at the back, far better than Zubar.
Glad for the lad and your club that Dan seems to have settled in and is helping you get to where you belong on present form.
Good luck tomorrow night, be great to see you looking down on everyone else.
Your manager will soon get this sorted, he's too good not too.
UTCIAD.
jakeysredd
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10:15pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Eddie's dog wrote:Fletch would be a better left back than Seabourne, looks like a fish out of water on the left but fine at centre back,
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road wrote:Agree - It would be great to see Fletch at left back; so entertaining.
Ashleyafcb wrote:Wiggins would not be made welcome back at DC, he proved what a mercenary he is when he put in a transfer request mid-season. Personally i would rather play Fletch at left back than have that greedy little t*** back.
Well there is two players who i can personally see in this position both ex players 1st Jason Pearce can play lb and isnt being played much at leeds and one i wouldnt like to see back but is wiggins not a fan of him but not being played and friends with eddie howe could happen
Trust Eddie to sort this, thats what he is paid to do, and is doing a very good job of it as well.
Dan Seaborne is a great addition to the squad, looks calm on the ball and a real presence at the back, far better than Zubar.
We probably would still get automatic promotion, but in a 'fun way'......
jakeysredd
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10:21pm Mon 11 Feb 13
jontee wrote:Indeedy twas in much jest, our cup runneth over with joyous merry making,
I think most of us rate Zubar, but it has to be said that 3 managers have not seen him as first choice, not even Bradbury who signed him. Still, that was so he could keep his mate Barrett in the team !
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At the end of the day, EH is the manager and will know more than us so we must bow to that knowledge.
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As for Seabourne, I was rather worried that he allowed a free header which should have put Pompey in the lead. Still, apart from that couldn't fault him.
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I assume the 'Fletch for fullback' idea wa in jest.
mossy 1
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11:03pm Mon 11 Feb 13
STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road
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5:30am Tue 12 Feb 13
OFF TO CREWE WE MUST GO
WHEN PITMAN SCORES THE WINNER
THIS IS WHAT WE'LL SING
WE ARE BOURNEMOUTH
WE ARE BOURNEMOUTH
AND WE'RE TOP OF THE LEAGUE.
Fanfor45 says...
7:11am Mon 11 Feb 13