Cherries: Mitchell confirms fresh plans for south stand (From Thisisdorset)

'it is all income for the club'

Great news. Must mean the club has stopped shoring up BLE's six-figure losses, yeah?

11000 capacity stroll on your fans couldnt fill a bath.

Best make 5000 seats available when Pompey come as they have snapped up your boxes already in the main stand.

I believe this sort of planning went ahead at this ground in the 1970s when Bournemouth won a few games on the trot.As I recall it was a derelict structure for years in wasteland at the Brighton Beach end and us Pompey boys got in for free jumping over the wall,

If you remember that, you are old....

You couldn't jump my grannie.....

Grow up. Its all about football now. Stop living in the past. Probably the reason your once proud club is on its way into the history books.

DorsetBlues wrote:
I believe this sort of planning went ahead at this ground in the 1970s when Bournemouth won a few games on the trot.As I recall it was a derelict structure for years in wasteland at the Brighton Beach end and us Pompey boys got in for free jumping over the wall,

Yawn !......

I recall in the late 1970's climbing over the wall about 45 mins before kick off and then hiding in the loos until the stand started filling up. Word got about and the numbers sneaking in this way was increasing with each home match until it got up to about 30 of us hiding in the loos. That was when the police twigged and, marched us all out of the loos and the ground and took all our names(Micheal Mouse, John Smith etc), Stevie Sly and myself amongst them. Ah, those were the days!

Good news fron EM on the next phase of the AFCB development plan.
The fans will turn up again in the new year for our run-in to promotion and then stay with us for next season and beyond.
All positive ideas and plans - Hope the full backing of our local council is forthcoming - The whole area surrounding the ground in Kings Park has never looked better !

People support winners and at the moment we are winning and may it continue into the championship then numbers will increase. With bigger clubs in the championship coming to play us then the current away fans area is too small.
If we had a south stand then either that or the north stand would house away supporters and the whole east stand would be used. I remember a couple of seasons ago when Rochdale supporters were moved to the south stand to allow full capacity in the east stand and it was great to see it full of home supporters.

DorsetBlues wrote:
11000 capacity stroll on your fans couldnt fill a bath.

Type "portsmouth fc" into Google, and take a good long look at the photo in the bottom right corner. As a Saints fan posted yesterday on the DailyEcho website, whoever was responsible should be made a peer of the realm. Now swim away and find yourself a fish to fiddle with. Pay up Pompey.

Dorset blue u won't be saying nothing come the 9th Feb when we beat ya moneys going down with fu*k all in the bank fu*k all in the bank league 2 next season for u boy's

DorsetBlues wrote:
11000 capacity stroll on your fans couldnt fill a bath.

Bet you don't know what a bath is and if you do you'll be feeding off the bottom of it, 'skate' trash!

Look forward your big game in 2 seasons time when you're playing Luton Town, d1ck!

DorsetBlues wrote:
Best make 5000 seats available when Pompey come as they have snapped up your boxes already in the main stand.

BTW if your lot have snapped up the boxes, I hope we've had the money in advance!

Mark my words DBs in 2 seasons time your Blues will be in the Blue Square, your ship is sinking kn0b and we will be putting a big torpedo into it in February!

FOP PFO!!!

I thought the current capacity is 9,600? Not sure how adding 2,500 seats gets us to 13,000?

DorsetBlues wrote:
11000 capacity stroll on your fans couldnt fill a bath.

congratulations you get a bigger crowd than us.... not sure it will do you any good in Div 2!

Piston_Broke wrote:

DorsetBlues wrote:
11000 capacity stroll on your fans couldnt fill a bath.

Type "portsmouth fc" into Google, and take a good long look at the photo in the bottom right corner. As a Saints fan posted yesterday on the DailyEcho website, whoever was responsible should be made a peer of the realm. Now swim away and find yourself a fish to fiddle with. Pay up Pompey.

Quality.

A sensible approach, the current economic situation doesn't favour a hotel development. It would be great if standing areas would be considerered for this development, though I doubt whether we are one of the 13 Clubs pressing for the return of terraces. There are many of use who do not enjoy sitting at a game and would prefer to stand, it adds considerably to the atmosphere and makes it far easier to join up with friends and could tempt back some of those who hate sitting..

Why put up a permanent fixture on a ground that is only rented?
This will just push the price up.
?????????

DorsetBlues wrote:
I believe this sort of planning went ahead at this ground in the 1970s when Bournemouth won a few games on the trot.As I recall it was a derelict structure for years in wasteland at the Brighton Beach end and us Pompey boys got in for free jumping over the wall,

PFC R.I.P. 14.12.12

DorsetBlues wrote:
I believe this sort of planning went ahead at this ground in the 1970s when Bournemouth won a few games on the trot.As I recall it was a derelict structure for years in wasteland at the Brighton Beach end and us Pompey boys got in for free jumping over the wall,

The construction of the stand was stopped when Harold Walker walked away from the Club ,following the late John Bond leaving the Club, and stopped investing in it. One of the best squads the Club has ever had was then sold off. Do hope that history doesn't repeat itself. Most of us have considerable sympathy for Portsmouths plight, it could have so easily been us, they are a Club with a great tradition and have great supporters, but every Club has an "idiot fringe",but it's difficult to see a Court ordering the sale of assets at below market price, which would probably mean the end for the Club.I do hope not.

DorsetBlues wrote:
I believe this sort of planning went ahead at this ground in the 1970s when Bournemouth won a few games on the trot.As I recall it was a derelict structure for years in wasteland at the Brighton Beach end and us Pompey boys got in for free jumping over the wall,

The construction of the stand was stopped when Harold Walker walked away from the Club ,following the late John Bond leaving the Club, and stopped investing in it. One of the best squads the Club has ever had was then sold off. Do hope that history doesn't repeat itself. Most of us have considerable sympathy for Portsmouths plight, it could have so easily been us, they are a Club with a great tradition and have great supporters, but every Club has an "idiot fringe",but it's difficult to see a Court ordering the sale of assets at below market price, which would probably mean the end for the Club.I do hope not.

Square Old Codger wrote:
A sensible approach, the current economic situation doesn't favour a hotel development. It would be great if standing areas would be considerered for this development, though I doubt whether we are one of the 13 Clubs pressing for the return of terraces. There are many of use who do not enjoy sitting at a game and would prefer to stand, it adds considerably to the atmosphere and makes it far easier to join up with friends and could tempt back some of those who hate sitting..

Agreed, I'd sooner stand, plus it would be cheaper enabling me to attend more games. I was hoping the South Stand would hold atleast a 1000 more than they state, enabling the Popular end to switch. Standing and more support = more noise!! Although the local residents would not like it so much.

nothingtofear wrote:

Piston_Broke wrote:

DorsetBlues wrote: 11000 capacity stroll on your fans couldnt fill a bath.

Type "portsmouth fc" into Google, and take a good long look at the photo in the bottom right corner. As a Saints fan posted yesterday on the DailyEcho website, whoever was responsible should be made a peer of the realm. Now swim away and find yourself a fish to fiddle with. Pay up Pompey.

Quality.

LMFAO, good old Google.

Square Old Codger wrote:
A sensible approach, the current economic situation doesn't favour a hotel development. It would be great if standing areas would be considerered for this development, though I doubt whether we are one of the 13 Clubs pressing for the return of terraces. There are many of use who do not enjoy sitting at a game and would prefer to stand, it adds considerably to the atmosphere and makes it far easier to join up with friends and could tempt back some of those who hate sitting..

AFCB is not one of the 13.

Agree with you SOC about timing plus to be honest I don't think there is enough space for enough rooms to make a hotel viable. Turn any additional space into office accommodation to rent out.

Neil. From pictures of the old ground I think you'll find that the current vacant end was the car park of the old ground.

elite50 wrote:
Why put up a permanent fixture on a ground that is only rented?
This will just push the price up.
?????????

We own the land where this stand will go, it's where the current stadium is that we rent.

elite50 wrote:
Why put up a permanent fixture on a ground that is only rented?
This will just push the price up.
?????????

I seem to recall that the land at the empty end of the stadium isn't rented, as it wasn't sold. I can't guarantee I'm right about that, as I've got a memory like one of those metal things with holes in, um, subs or sibs or sumint.

elite50 wrote:
Why put up a permanent fixture on a ground that is only rented?
This will just push the price up.
?????????

You could really say that about the vast amount of money that's been spent on the ground under Mitchell's tenure. But that hasn't been the requirement in the bigger picture in the scheme of things.

Admittedly completion of the fourth side will increase the value of the whole stadium and will may increase any buy back price but actually AFCB own the open end land which in area is the car park behind the old DC main stand.

I gather it was Stanley Cohen's security for his bridging loan and was apparently never included in the sale and lease back to Structadene.

Now it's security for Max Demin's company's loan.

DorsetBlues wrote:
11000 capacity stroll on your fans couldnt fill a bath.

in the past i'd hoped that pompey would get out of trouble as it's the fans that stick through a clubs hard times whilst the owners & players usually move on unscathed, but after reading your constant trashing, i hope pompey fc go bust in 2 days time & never come back.

on the ownership of dean court, do structadene own just the land or do they own the stands, offices, fittings etc? if just the land, then what is the possibility of unbolting it all & relocating to land purchased by the club? i'm sure em has looked at every possibility & i'm really pleased with the way the club is moving. the most passionate chairman the club has ever had in my time supporting afcb (42 yrs+) & he's actually delivered on every front that he has said he would. i wasn't 100% about him at first but i was wrong as he & his partners have transformed the place. just hoe e h misses out on manager of the month award & attached curse.

cherries13 wrote:

elite50 wrote:
Why put up a permanent fixture on a ground that is only rented?
This will just push the price up.
?????????

We own the land where this stand will go, it's where the current stadium is that we rent.

I gather the end of the main and east stands aren't in the sale and leaseback. Roughly a line drawn across the penalty area!

Any buildings belong to the landlord regardless of who put them up and paid for them. More than that, if the landlord's permission was not obtained rent will be payable on them when it is next reviewed. EM will be well aware of this. So it makes sense to put improvements, like a new stand, on land that the club owns rather than rents. This will not necessarily enhance the value of he landlord's asset as the new stand could simply be demolished if the lease came to an end. The grond would most likely go for development anyway in that scenario.

Piston_Broke wrote:

DorsetBlues wrote:
11000 capacity stroll on your fans couldnt fill a bath.

Type "portsmouth fc" into Google, and take a good long look at the photo in the bottom right corner. As a Saints fan posted yesterday on the DailyEcho website, whoever was responsible should be made a peer of the realm. Now swim away and find yourself a fish to fiddle with. Pay up Pompey.

quality,pompey on here cos there club is going down the swanny!

Piston_Broke wrote:

DorsetBlues wrote:
11000 capacity stroll on your fans couldnt fill a bath.

Type "portsmouth fc" into Google, and take a good long look at the photo in the bottom right corner. As a Saints fan posted yesterday on the DailyEcho website, whoever was responsible should be made a peer of the realm. Now swim away and find yourself a fish to fiddle with. Pay up Pompey.

quality,pompey on here cos there club is going down the swanny!

You can buy pre-made stands for about £20,000 which arrive on a truck and then are screwed into the concrete.

They are then saleable when a larger stand is needed.

HAHA that photo is spot on to anyone who remembers those stand up black toilets.

Are they still there?

pokesdown1 wrote:
You can buy pre-made stands for about £20,000 which arrive on a truck and then are screwed into the concrete.

They are then saleable when a larger stand is needed.

The west stand which runs the whole length of Crawley's ground is a temporary covered structure.

Can't see Mitchell wanting something like that and to be honest it would look better if it was in keeping with the rest of the ground.

“It is all income for the club,” said Mitchell.

No, it's income for Black Label events, and very little, if any, appears to be finding its way into the Club's coffers.

Why does the Echo continue to allow Mitchell to get away with such blatant lies?

Agreed the Crawley stand looks flimsy but its easily removable for resale.

Successful teams ay?

Lew Swimmin wrote:
“It is all income for the club,” said Mitchell.

No, it's income for Black Label events, and very little, if any, appears to be finding its way into the Club's coffers.

Why does the Echo continue to allow Mitchell to get away with such blatant lies?

And so what if it is? The facilities provided by Black Label Events are far better than anything the club has seen in the past.

The club is in a far better state now than it was when EM took over to stop the stupid digs.

Time to move on and get over the past.

DorsetBlues wrote:
I believe this sort of planning went ahead at this ground in the 1970s when Bournemouth won a few games on the trot.As I recall it was a derelict structure for years in wasteland at the Brighton Beach end and us Pompey boys got in for free jumping over the wall,

As a Pompey fan, I find you a right Trolling nobhead, save your venom for the scummers, f**k off out of Dorset if you don't like em.

PUP!!!!!!!!
AFCB keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!!!

it sounds like someone, building an extension on the house they are renting. This is the ugly side of the club, it would be fine if we owned the stadium, but I don't think a hotel and restaurant in kings park is a profitable venture, especially on land we don't own!
at least things are good on the pitch, thanks to 1 edmund, lets hope the other edmund behaves himself off the pitch

Lew Swimmin wrote:
“It is all income for the club,” said Mitchell.

No, it's income for Black Label events, and very little, if any, appears to be finding its way into the Club's coffers.

Why does the Echo continue to allow Mitchell to get away with such blatant lies?

You sound nealy as bitter and twisted as Dorset Blue.

Error,should be nearly.

andyjb10 wrote:

Lew Swimmin wrote:
“It is all income for the club,” said Mitchell.

No, it's income for Black Label events, and very little, if any, appears to be finding its way into the Club's coffers.

Why does the Echo continue to allow Mitchell to get away with such blatant lies?

And so what if it is? The facilities provided by Black Label Events are far better than anything the club has seen in the past.

The club is in a far better state now than it was when EM took over to stop the stupid digs.

Time to move on and get over the past.

It sort of is and sort of isn't. We now have large debts to one person rather than many institutions.
.

I love watching theeam now that EH is back in charge bt look atthe wages we are paying. When we got back into L1 EM said we had to get gates of 5,500 to break even. Look at the players & squad we have now, our wages are far higher but the gates are not. That means that we are living beyond our means .......... again.
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I agree that the club looks nd fels in a much better condition. The quetion is, can we afford it? If so, how long for?

ASM wrote:
it sounds like someone, building an extension on the house they are renting. This is the ugly side of the club, it would be fine if we owned the stadium, but I don't think a hotel and restaurant in kings park is a profitable venture, especially on land we don't own!
at least things are good on the pitch, thanks to 1 edmund, lets hope the other edmund behaves himself off the pitch

Nor do the powers that be at the club think a hotel and restaurant are viable options at present as clearly outlined in the article, or did you skip that bit?

Square Old Codger wrote:
A sensible approach, the current economic situation doesn't favour a hotel development. It would be great if standing areas would be considerered for this development, though I doubt whether we are one of the 13 Clubs pressing for the return of terraces. There are many of use who do not enjoy sitting at a game and would prefer to stand, it adds considerably to the atmosphere and makes it far easier to join up with friends and could tempt back some of those who hate sitting..

Absolutely spot on SOC.
I hate sitting down at games and haven't been over to DC for a while now because of it. If you're on a terrace and you end up next to an idiot you can walk away, not so easy when you're sat next to them for the whole match. Can ruin a good game.

"The south end of Goldsands Stadium, which was the site of the Main Stand before the ground was redeveloped in 2001, is currently empty"

Never it would have been the car park at least behind that stand that was obtained from the British Empire Exhibition 1924 held at Wembly
.Just work out the dimension of a football pitch then turn it 90 degrees.The Old Stand was tight to the Thistlebarrow Road properties for starters and could have been no deeper than 50 foot.
If it was on the site of the old main stand why was council land required to turn the pitch

common dog wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

Lew Swimmin wrote:
“It is all income for the club,” said Mitchell.

No, it's income for Black Label events, and very little, if any, appears to be finding its way into the Club's coffers.

Why does the Echo continue to allow Mitchell to get away with such blatant lies?

And so what if it is? The facilities provided by Black Label Events are far better than anything the club has seen in the past.

The club is in a far better state now than it was when EM took over to stop the stupid digs.

Time to move on and get over the past.

It sort of is and sort of isn't. We now have large debts to one person rather than many institutions.
.

I love watching theeam now that EH is back in charge bt look atthe wages we are paying. When we got back into L1 EM said we had to get gates of 5,500 to break even. Look at the players & squad we have now, our wages are far higher but the gates are not. That means that we are living beyond our means .......... again.
.

I agree that the club looks nd fels in a much better condition. The quetion is, can we afford it? If so, how long for?

Without full annual a/c's being in the public domain one can still see from the very brief published AFCB and Black Label a/c's that AFCB has pumped a substantial amount of money into an organisation only of common directorate and not legally linked. Also even more on upgrading the facilities and decor of Dean Court.

Don't forget we lost a team of players following Mitchell's strategy in doing all this and increased debts which had made the club insolvent again.

To my mind it is double standards for Mitchell and AFCB/Black Label's advertising to say all Black Label profits go to the club when it's substantially the other way at the moment. Also the previous franchisee was paying AFCB to run the catering and Lindley's had the franchise for the match day kiosks.

To the fans now we're back on track on the pitch with the return of Eddie Howe and everything is rosy but don't forget the recent past.

Our saving grace has been the arrival of Max Demin for which we have to thank Mitchell for the introduction and as long as Max will be funding everything and staying long term then I suppose no one is too bothered about funding our debt and trading losses.

But without Demin there is no doubt we would have been in deep financial trouble again.

One also hopes that the arrival as directors of AFCB of Messrs Alexey Panferov and Mikhail Ponomarev, high profile Russians with substantial business acumen and the return of Adam Murry, who appointed Eddie Howe, will add checks and balance to board room decision making and lead the club into the Championship.

Arthur Maureen wrote:

DorsetBlues wrote:
I believe this sort of planning went ahead at this ground in the 1970s when Bournemouth won a few games on the trot.As I recall it was a derelict structure for years in wasteland at the Brighton Beach end and us Pompey boys got in for free jumping over the wall,

As a Pompey fan, I find you a right Trolling nobhead, save your venom for the scummers, f**k off out of Dorset if you don't like em.

PUP!!!!!!!!
AFCB keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the Dorset Blues comment, I thank you!!!!!

It's not a good idea to make enemies when you're on your way up,,,plain stupid when times are not so good!!!

AM: Good luck to you and your team!

DB: Go do one and troll elsewhere you are an embarrassement to the team you claim to support!

Deejaycee wrote:

Lew Swimmin wrote:
“It is all income for the club,” said Mitchell.

No, it's income for Black Label events, and very little, if any, appears to be finding its way into the Club's coffers.

Why does the Echo continue to allow Mitchell to get away with such blatant lies?

You sound nealy as bitter and twisted as Dorset Blue.

Why do you consider this "bitter and twisted"?

When BLE was set up we were told that all catering income would go to it, but that profits would go to the Football Club. All the reports that I have heard to date have said that BLE has made no profits so far, so if this is true, then Mitchells statement above is a lie.

I don't think that making perfectly reasonable comments about this and asking a reasonable question as a result can possibly be construed as being bitter and twisted.

Like many supporters, I am worried about the future of our Club as it is clearly living beyond its means, and the money that is enabling it do so has so far only ever been described as "loans" (which normally means it has to be repaid at some future date) and not actual investment.

Lew Swimmin wrote:

Deejaycee wrote:

Lew Swimmin wrote:
“It is all income for the club,” said Mitchell.

No, it's income for Black Label events, and very little, if any, appears to be finding its way into the Club's coffers.

Why does the Echo continue to allow Mitchell to get away with such blatant lies?

You sound nealy as bitter and twisted as Dorset Blue.

Why do you consider this "bitter and twisted"?

When BLE was set up we were told that all catering income would go to it, but that profits would go to the Football Club. All the reports that I have heard to date have said that BLE has made no profits so far, so if this is true, then Mitchells statement above is a lie.

I don't think that making perfectly reasonable comments about this and asking a reasonable question as a result can possibly be construed as being bitter and twisted.

Like many supporters, I am worried about the future of our Club as it is clearly living beyond its means, and the money that is enabling it do so has so far only ever been described as "loans" (which normally means it has to be repaid at some future date) and not actual investment.

Agree with you about being worried about all the money being spent. Enjoying the football again now though. Thanks to Eddie and Jason.

DorsetBlues wrote:
11000 capacity stroll on your fans couldnt fill a bath.

pompey are doing well aren't they.

DorsetBlues wrote:
I believe this sort of planning went ahead at this ground in the 1970s when Bournemouth won a few games on the trot.As I recall it was a derelict structure for years in wasteland at the Brighton Beach end and us Pompey boys got in for free jumping over the wall,

Jeepers creepers. Fratton Park the wembley of the south I don't think. Rotten stinking hole of a ground, up to your neck in debt, and an ageing newsreader as your celebrity fan. Cheerio, and regards to the mrs.miggins league. Merry christmas

andyjb10 wrote:

Lew Swimmin wrote:
“It is all income for the club,” said Mitchell.

No, it's income for Black Label events, and very little, if any, appears to be finding its way into the Club's coffers.

Why does the Echo continue to allow Mitchell to get away with such blatant lies?

And so what if it is? The facilities provided by Black Label Events are far better than anything the club has seen in the past.

The club is in a far better state now than it was when EM took over to stop the stupid digs.

Time to move on and get over the past.

andyjb10, Remove yourself from Mitchell's leg boy, Eddie lies worse than a cheap carpet

Is DorsetBlues green with envy because we have money to spent and the bum bandit sailors are going down the pan. Sunday League here you come!!!!!!

Strange happenings on the PFC front this morning.

I hope everythings` ok.

Strange happenings on the PFC front this morning.

I hope everythings` ok.

The Renegade Master wrote:

Square Old Codger wrote: A sensible approach, the current economic situation doesn't favour a hotel development. It would be great if standing areas would be considerered for this development, though I doubt whether we are one of the 13 Clubs pressing for the return of terraces. There are many of use who do not enjoy sitting at a game and would prefer to stand, it adds considerably to the atmosphere and makes it far easier to join up with friends and could tempt back some of those who hate sitting..

Absolutely spot on SOC. I hate sitting down at games and haven't been over to DC for a while now because of it. If you're on a terrace and you end up next to an idiot you can walk away, not so easy when you're sat next to them for the whole match. Can ruin a good game.

Just get a ticket for the back of the north stand then cos everyone stands up anyway, poor excuse not to go cos u don't like sitting down, who does

lionheart wrote:

common dog wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

Lew Swimmin wrote: “It is all income for the club,” said Mitchell. No, it's income for Black Label events, and very little, if any, appears to be finding its way into the Club's coffers. Why does the Echo continue to allow Mitchell to get away with such blatant lies?

And so what if it is? The facilities provided by Black Label Events are far better than anything the club has seen in the past. The club is in a far better state now than it was when EM took over to stop the stupid digs. Time to move on and get over the past.

It sort of is and sort of isn't. We now have large debts to one person rather than many institutions. . I love watching theeam now that EH is back in charge bt look atthe wages we are paying. When we got back into L1 EM said we had to get gates of 5,500 to break even. Look at the players & squad we have now, our wages are far higher but the gates are not. That means that we are living beyond our means .......... again. . I agree that the club looks nd fels in a much better condition. The quetion is, can we afford it? If so, how long for?

Without full annual a/c's being in the public domain one can still see from the very brief published AFCB and Black Label a/c's that AFCB has pumped a substantial amount of money into an organisation only of common directorate and not legally linked. Also even more on upgrading the facilities and decor of Dean Court. Don't forget we lost a team of players following Mitchell's strategy in doing all this and increased debts which had made the club insolvent again. To my mind it is double standards for Mitchell and AFCB/Black Label's advertising to say all Black Label profits go to the club when it's substantially the other way at the moment. Also the previous franchisee was paying AFCB to run the catering and Lindley's had the franchise for the match day kiosks. To the fans now we're back on track on the pitch with the return of Eddie Howe and everything is rosy but don't forget the recent past. Our saving grace has been the arrival of Max Demin for which we have to thank Mitchell for the introduction and as long as Max will be funding everything and staying long term then I suppose no one is too bothered about funding our debt and trading losses. But without Demin there is no doubt we would have been in deep financial trouble again. One also hopes that the arrival as directors of AFCB of Messrs Alexey Panferov and Mikhail Ponomarev, high profile Russians with substantial business acumen and the return of Adam Murry, who appointed Eddie Howe, will add checks and balance to board room decision making and lead the club into the Championship.

I entirely agree with you, I have no doubt at all that with out the Russians, the Club would have been back into Administration. Nor has BLE been other than a drain on the Club so far. Publication of the accounts has been put back until the Spring and so we will have no facts until then. But it does appear that there has been some investment, rather than loans, but we are a little like Chelsea - Ok, as long as the Russians remain interested! Meanwhile enjoy the football.

Square Old Codger wrote:

lionheart wrote:

common dog wrote:

andyjb10 wrote:

Lew Swimmin wrote: “It is all income for the club,” said Mitchell. No, it's income for Black Label events, and very little, if any, appears to be finding its way into the Club's coffers. Why does the Echo continue to allow Mitchell to get away with such blatant lies?

And so what if it is? The facilities provided by Black Label Events are far better than anything the club has seen in the past. The club is in a far better state now than it was when EM took over to stop the stupid digs. Time to move on and get over the past.

It sort of is and sort of isn't. We now have large debts to one person rather than many institutions. . I love watching theeam now that EH is back in charge bt look atthe wages we are paying. When we got back into L1 EM said we had to get gates of 5,500 to break even. Look at the players & squad we have now, our wages are far higher but the gates are not. That means that we are living beyond our means .......... again. . I agree that the club looks nd fels in a much better condition. The quetion is, can we afford it? If so, how long for?

Without full annual a/c's being in the public domain one can still see from the very brief published AFCB and Black Label a/c's that AFCB has pumped a substantial amount of money into an organisation only of common directorate and not legally linked. Also even more on upgrading the facilities and decor of Dean Court. Don't forget we lost a team of players following Mitchell's strategy in doing all this and increased debts which had made the club insolvent again. To my mind it is double standards for Mitchell and AFCB/Black Label's advertising to say all Black Label profits go to the club when it's substantially the other way at the moment. Also the previous franchisee was paying AFCB to run the catering and Lindley's had the franchise for the match day kiosks. To the fans now we're back on track on the pitch with the return of Eddie Howe and everything is rosy but don't forget the recent past. Our saving grace has been the arrival of Max Demin for which we have to thank Mitchell for the introduction and as long as Max will be funding everything and staying long term then I suppose no one is too bothered about funding our debt and trading losses. But without Demin there is no doubt we would have been in deep financial trouble again. One also hopes that the arrival as directors of AFCB of Messrs Alexey Panferov and Mikhail Ponomarev, high profile Russians with substantial business acumen and the return of Adam Murry, who appointed Eddie Howe, will add checks and balance to board room decision making and lead the club into the Championship.

I entirely agree with you, I have no doubt at all that with out the Russians, the Club would have been back into Administration. Nor has BLE been other than a drain on the Club so far. Publication of the accounts has been put back until the Spring and so we will have no facts until then. But it does appear that there has been some investment, rather than loans, but we are a little like Chelsea - Ok, as long as the Russians remain interested! Meanwhile enjoy the football.

Thank's SOC. Glad someone who posts sense on here agrees with me. If you missed them, the first year a/c's for BLE to 31 July 2011 showed a trading loss of £176,000 and that's after substantial financial support from AFCB!

Ok so we've upgraded the fabric of Dean Court at considerable expense to the balance sheet of AFCB but based on how Black Label is run with the current executive I don't think we could possibly make a profit from running a small hotel so why go to all that expense with a nil return on that investment. With 36 bedrooms it's not viable even with the right staff running it and it would be a white elephant.

Better to have offices like Preston have done at Deepdale for the local Health Authority and have a health/community centre or something similar.

brungo wrote:

DorsetBlues wrote:
11000 capacity stroll on your fans couldnt fill a bath.

in the past i'd hoped that pompey would get out of trouble as it's the fans that stick through a clubs hard times whilst the owners & players usually move on unscathed, but after reading your constant trashing, i hope pompey fc go bust in 2 days time & never come back.

on the ownership of dean court, do structadene own just the land or do they own the stands, offices, fittings etc? if just the land, then what is the possibility of unbolting it all & relocating to land purchased by the club? i'm sure em has looked at every possibility & i'm really pleased with the way the club is moving. the most passionate chairman the club has ever had in my time supporting afcb (42 yrs+) & he's actually delivered on every front that he has said he would. i wasn't 100% about him at first but i was wrong as he & his partners have transformed the place. just hoe e h misses out on manager of the month award & attached curse.

Brungo I can understand why you say that but lets be fair Pompey are in worse trouble than we were in and the vast majority of the People who support them dont have an axe to grind with us . Its unfair to wish ill on them just because of one knob . I hope they survive and recover as we did

DorsetBlues wrote:
Best make 5000 seats available when Pompey come as they have snapped up your boxes already in the main stand.

Thats great its all money for the Club even though we dont need it as much now so thank you

Dont have short memorys wrote:

brungo wrote:

DorsetBlues wrote:
11000 capacity stroll on your fans couldnt fill a bath.

in the past i'd hoped that pompey would get out of trouble as it's the fans that stick through a clubs hard times whilst the owners & players usually move on unscathed, but after reading your constant trashing, i hope pompey fc go bust in 2 days time & never come back.

on the ownership of dean court, do structadene own just the land or do they own the stands, offices, fittings etc? if just the land, then what is the possibility of unbolting it all & relocating to land purchased by the club? i'm sure em has looked at every possibility & i'm really pleased with the way the club is moving. the most passionate chairman the club has ever had in my time supporting afcb (42 yrs+) & he's actually delivered on every front that he has said he would. i wasn't 100% about him at first but i was wrong as he & his partners have transformed the place. just hoe e h misses out on manager of the month award & attached curse.

Brungo I can understand why you say that but lets be fair Pompey are in worse trouble than we were in and the vast majority of the People who support them dont have an axe to grind with us . Its unfair to wish ill on them just because of one knob . I hope they survive and recover as we did

Agreed. I have lived locally for a few years, hail from Pompey and love both teams. I wish AFCB all the best for the future and hopefully Pompey can survive as a community owned club in the near future.

DorsetBlues wrote:
I believe this sort of planning went ahead at this ground in the 1970s when Bournemouth won a few games on the trot.As I recall it was a derelict structure for years in wasteland at the Brighton Beach end and us Pompey boys got in for free jumping over the wall,

Better jump a little higher next time then or bring a big F-off ladder, assuming that you can't afford the ticket price?

Could someone who knows moe about Stve Sly-Is it the same Mr Sly who lived inCollingbourne Ave &had a wonky eyed brother called Darren?Im sure it is,but...well the photo Iseen recntly & the one from say 25 yrsago,Hes put on bit of 'Puppy Fat'...around 10stone to be precise!