Cherries: Fletcher backs Stockley to push squad on loan return (From Thisisdorset)

Jayden has many attributes, but he has never been a prolific goalscorer, either for the youth team or the Reserves.
We need strikers up front who can contribute a minimum of 15 goals a season..
Perhaps, the club could look atJayden in a central defender role. He could also contribute useful goals from that position.
Worth a try to see what potential he has in that position, as he has at least six players in front of him as a striker.

As Fletch rightly pointed out, Jayden is just 19, but seems to have been around a long time and I think that people forget just how young he is. Tall players too nature rather later than smaller ones. Every Manager we have had recognizes the lads talent and potential and it was Eddie, a great judge of a player that signed him up to a long contract when the lad was 16. He will I believe turn into the target man for us, for others to feed off, whilst chipping in with goals himself.

are you going to comment on the weather forcast next Fletch, you seem to have an opinion on everything else

. . J Stockley is a big fella and I am sure he can go on to score more goals than big Fletch.

devon fan wrote:
are you going to comment on the weather forcast next Fletch, you seem to have an opinion on everything else

Ha Ha ! I liked that Devon fan, very good !
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Seriously though, I will be surprised if JS makes it right through. Although PG was a cr*p manager, he wasn't a bad judge of a player and didn't think JS was ready for the senior squad. How long does it take ? Remember Fletch was holding down a regular starting place at the same age.
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Now, again seriously, can someone help me out, because I've obviously missed something. Nothing to do with this thread. I see that Barrett has signed a long contract with Gillingham and is captain. And it seems Gregory is AFC Wimbledon captain plus he played in the cup on Sunday. I thought these players went out on loan and I didn't think they could sign permanently until January, or have I got that all wrong. Mind you, pleased to see the back of Barrett, but Gregory is another matter.

jontee wrote:

devon fan wrote:
are you going to comment on the weather forcast next Fletch, you seem to have an opinion on everything else

Ha Ha ! I liked that Devon fan, very good !
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Seriously though, I will be surprised if JS makes it right through. Although PG was a cr*p manager, he wasn't a bad judge of a player and didn't think JS was ready for the senior squad. How long does it take ? Remember Fletch was holding down a regular starting place at the same age.
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Now, again seriously, can someone help me out, because I've obviously missed something. Nothing to do with this thread. I see that Barrett has signed a long contract with Gillingham and is captain. And it seems Gregory is AFC Wimbledon captain plus he played in the cup on Sunday. I thought these players went out on loan and I didn't think they could sign permanently until January, or have I got that all wrong. Mind you, pleased to see the back of Barrett, but Gregory is another matter.

Isn't Gregory on a season long loan? Barrett was released I believe so he's 100% their player. JS on the other hand is still not showing us the form to fill a first team place, perhaps Eddie will bring out the best in him and he can fulfill his potential, if not I can see him dropping down a league or two come the summer.

Ah, thanks, Frankie. That makes sense for Gregory. As for Barrett, does that mean if a player becomes a free agent he can join a new club any time ? So the transfer windows only apply to contracted players. That's how we got James I suppose. Penny has dropped. I can sleep easy now !

Jayden not a prolific scorer? Jayden has always scored goals in every age group for Bournemouth, he was always the number one striker and was always the one that would clearly make it as a professional. Those around/near to the club have spoken about him being possibly the highest ever amount received by Bmth when eventually sold...he has not had a run of games for almost three years, when he does I think we'll see exactly what he is about...and then we'll lose him!

wookj1 -Never been a prolific goalscorer? I watched him play as a schoolboy, against some quality schools and Jayden regularly scored a hatful of goals- scoring six or seven on many occasions. Please quantify your comments -'Never...?'

wookj1 wrote:
Jayden has many attributes, but he has never been a prolific goalscorer, either for the youth team or the Reserves.
We need strikers up front who can contribute a minimum of 15 goals a season..
Perhaps, the club could look atJayden in a central defender role. He could also contribute useful goals from that position.
Worth a try to see what potential he has in that position, as he has at least six players in front of him as a striker.

....perhaps we could try him in goal as well?!! Seriously though, i think he has enough on his plate at the moment learning his trade as a striker without turning him into a defender.

sea poole wrote:
wookj1 -Never been a prolific goalscorer? I watched him play as a schoolboy, against some quality schools and Jayden regularly scored a hatful of goals- scoring six or seven on many occasions. Please quantify your comments -'Never...?'

OK. I have been involved in local football for over twenty years, and twelve years ago had a young striker who scored a hat trick almost every time he played, and scored sixteen goals in one game, which still remains the record in the East Devon Youth league.
The phone lines were going crazy, with league clubs chasing him, and there was an article in all the Sunday papers.
He is now an English Fishing international.... and in my opinion as a youth player was better than Stockley.
Can someone tell me the last time Jayden scored thirty goals in a season?

Connor Robert wrote:
Jayden not a prolific scorer? Jayden has always scored goals in every age group for Bournemouth, he was always the number one striker and was always the one that would clearly make it as a professional. Those around/near to the club have spoken about him being possibly the highest ever amount received by Bmth when eventually sold...he has not had a run of games for almost three years, when he does I think we'll see exactly what he is about...and then we'll lose him!

Why have bigger clubs not come in for him if he is as good as other posters are saying.?
Goals scored as a schoolboy don't tell the whole story, because bigger lads will always stand out up front in the 11-16 year age groups. The transition to Senior football is much harder, and very few are successful in bridging the gap.
Just seems mystifying to me that only Accrington Stanley and Woking have taken him on loan if he has that much potential.
We have another young striker called Thomas who has just gone on loan to Blackpool in the Championship, and he scored at the weekend.
Who has got the most potential?
Is he better than Sam Vokes was at nineteen...a fully fledged international scoring goals for Wales.?
I will be delighted if Jayden goes on to prove himself, and become a great striker for the Cherries..Just trying to give a balanced view.

No room for Jayden at the Goldsands, already too many forwards pushing for places. He is probably better off in a Div 2 side somewhere. Free transfer the next transfer window me thinks.

wookj1 -Just because he hasn't produced the bucketful of goals at senior level doesn't mean he won't produce. He hasn't had a good run with any consistent chances. Some players develop later than others. Like you, I've been involved in youth football for over 20 yrs ...almost 30 and Jayden's potential is there-it just needs to be released...

wookj1 wrote:

Connor Robert wrote:
Jayden not a prolific scorer? Jayden has always scored goals in every age group for Bournemouth, he was always the number one striker and was always the one that would clearly make it as a professional. Those around/near to the club have spoken about him being possibly the highest ever amount received by Bmth when eventually sold...he has not had a run of games for almost three years, when he does I think we'll see exactly what he is about...and then we'll lose him!

Why have bigger clubs not come in for him if he is as good as other posters are saying.?
Goals scored as a schoolboy don't tell the whole story, because bigger lads will always stand out up front in the 11-16 year age groups. The transition to Senior football is much harder, and very few are successful in bridging the gap.
Just seems mystifying to me that only Accrington Stanley and Woking have taken him on loan if he has that much potential.
We have another young striker called Thomas who has just gone on loan to Blackpool in the Championship, and he scored at the weekend.
Who has got the most potential?
Is he better than Sam Vokes was at nineteen...a fully fledged international scoring goals for Wales.?
I will be delighted if Jayden goes on to prove himself, and become a great striker for the Cherries..Just trying to give a balanced view.

He's not had the easiest of times now has he? thrown into the first team at 16, never had the "proper" training, even Groves admitted that much, what he needs is games and to work with two excellent coaches in Eddie and Jason, if he doesn't make it with them then he won't make it here. Like I said I can see him moving on in the summer if Eddie doesn't see the potential turned into something more. If he had been managed better at a younger age then things may have been very different by now!