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4:50pm Saturday 23rd August 2008

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RYAN Harley grabbed the only goal of an uninspiring contest as Cherries' nine-match unbeaten league run came to a shuddering end at the hands of Exeter today.

Harley netted midway through the second half to hand the newly-promoted Devon outfit their first victory since their return to the Football League following a five-year exile.

Cherries boss Kevin Bond made no fewer than four changes to his starting line-up with his threadbare squad ravaged by injury.

Goalkeeper Shwan Jalal, defender Joel Ward and striker Jo Kuffour were ruled out by an assortment of ailments, while Sammy Igoe dropped down to the bench.

Ryan Pryce and Jason Pearce replaced Jalal and Ward, respectively, while Danny Hollands made a welcome return and new signing Scott Wagstaff was handed his debut.

Winger Wagstaff, on loan from Charlton, almost made a dream start but just failed to connect with Brett Pitman's low cross as Cherries mounted their first attack after five minutes.

But the Grecians also created an early chance when Adam Stansfield's effort trickled inches past the post after the visitors had scythed open the Cherries defence.

In a first half high on endeavour but low on goalscoring opportunities, Harley's 37th-minute drive was the only shot on target during the opening period.

The second half continued in much the same vein with a shot from Wagstaff and a prod over the crossbar by Matt Taylor failing to trouble the scorers.

Harley finally made the breakthrough when he beat Pryce with a low, angled drive after being sent scampering down the left flank by Rob Edwards's pass in the 67th minute.

And the visitors went close to doubling their lead just seconds later when Dean Moxey's centre flashed across the face of the goalmouth with Stansfield almost converting.

As Cherries finally found their shooting boots, Pitman was denied by a fine save from Paul Jones, the goalkeeper diving to his right to parry the striker's fierce low shot.

Cherries had a penalty claim turned down in the closing stages when Igoe's cross appeared to strike the hand of Exeter skipper Dan Seaborne.

Cherries (4-4-1-1): Pryce; Bradbury, Guyett (Sappleton, 57), Pearce, Cummings; Wagstaff (Igoe, 78), Anderton (Lindfield, 70), Cooper, Bartley; Hollands, Pitman.

Unused subs: McQuoid, Partington.

Booked: Bradbury.

Exeter City (3-5-2): Jones; Tully, Seaborne, Taylor, Friend; Harley, Edwards, Gill; Logan (Moxey, 65), Stansfield (McAllister, 90), Stewart.

Unused subs: Panther, Sercombe, Marriott (g/k).

Booked: Seaborne, Moxey.

Referee: James Linington (Isle of Wight).

Attendance: 5,350.


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flyingleaper, el segundo ca.USA says...
4:56pm Sat 23 Aug 08

didnttake long to print that did u

alasdair, windsor/kosovo says...
4:59pm Sat 23 Aug 08

please do not have a go at me

baker out with the old if you dont turn things around now we are destined for the conference rotherham won again today

happymool, Kent says...
5:08pm Sat 23 Aug 08

A bit worrying even after 3 games as Rotherham are already 7 points ahead of us. If we can't start improving and actually find someone that can hit the back of the net regularly we could be as good as down by Christmas!!

Throopmill, Mt Everest says...
5:32pm Sat 23 Aug 08

Bright New Future.

Mr Baker, you better take any offers that might come your way!

The club needs money and lots of it, Mr B I don't think you do??

muffin the mule, wallisdown says...
5:38pm Sat 23 Aug 08

another very poor performance,we just are not cutting it yet this year,its not a 'team' yet by a long stretch

mike, poole says...
5:51pm Sat 23 Aug 08

I realy believe this was the worst performance in a league game I have seen for years. No shape, no pattern, no desire, no finishing.
No hope? I have always tried to see the positives in the team, but after today's performance...with ONE 'striker' at home...where the hell do we go from here?

paul, Wimborne says...
6:00pm Sat 23 Aug 08

I AGREE. WE SEEM TO JUST GO OUT THERE TO HAVE A GAME OF FOOTBALL (LIKE YOU DO WHEN YOUR A KID)INSTEAD OF GOING OUT THEIR TO DOMINATE AND WIN. BMOUTH NEED TO BE MORE CONTROLLING AND CONFIDENTLY TAKE THE BALL UPFRONT IN FORCE AND SCORE!!!


alasdair, windsor/kosovo says...
6:01pm Sat 23 Aug 08

muffin the mule wrote:
another very poor performance,we just are not cutting it yet this year,its not a 'team' yet by a long stretch
we are a team made up of loan players and will be for the foreseeable future how can a team gel as a unit with so many comings and goings and sadly i see it being like this all season unless we can get more perminant players in as i said out with the old sorry same story as last season early form and administration got us relegated we have already lost more points than we did last season and the form is the same does not bode well at all

Throopmill, Mt Everest says...
6:04pm Sat 23 Aug 08

Mr Baker.

TAKE THE OFFER ASAP!!!!!

CHESTER NEED YOU.

alasdair, windsor/kosovo says...
6:07pm Sat 23 Aug 08

Throopmill wrote:
Mr Baker. TAKE THE OFFER ASAP!!!!! CHESTER NEED YOU.
thats one of our only saving graces chester are leaking more goals than a leaky thing in leaks ville lets hope they continue there losing  form

Tel3977, Poole says...
6:08pm Sat 23 Aug 08

Another rubbish performance do us all a favour knock Dean Court down and build some decent flats down by Xmas out of business end of season

AFCB The Only, London says...
6:14pm Sat 23 Aug 08

There is a big rumor going around today that there is another party that has already talked and met with Sport 6 and they have offered them a profitable exit and more importantly substantial money to strengthen the team short term and funds to stabalise the clubs situation.

BAKER TAKE IT NOW, FOR YOUR, THE SUPPORTERS AND THIS CLUBS SAKE

alasdair, windsor/kosovo says...
6:17pm Sat 23 Aug 08

we dont need short term finacial stability we need long term

and we need perminant players not a team made up of loanees as i previously posted how can a team gel with so many comings and goings

Throopmill, Mt Everest says...
6:19pm Sat 23 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
There is a big rumor going around today that there is another party that has already talked and met with Sport 6 and they have offered them a profitable exit and more importantly substantial money to strengthen the team short term and funds to stabalise the clubs situation. BAKER TAKE IT NOW, FOR YOUR, THE SUPPORTERS AND THIS CLUBS SAKE
Ditto and the offer it would seem is VERY good for the clubs long term future!

Baker would be very foolish not to take it if it's that firm an offer!

Lots of Money !

lferrone, Boscombe East says...
6:20pm Sat 23 Aug 08

mike wrote:
I realy believe this was the worst performance in a league game I have seen for years. No shape, no pattern, no desire, no finishing. No hope? I have always tried to see the positives in the team, but after today's performance...with ONE 'striker' at home...where the hell do we go from here?
100% agree with your sentiments. I am not sure that those players who stayed on from last season are reflecting the 20% wage drop out on the field I hope not but there appears to be some apathy setting in.

Bosskom, westbourne says...
6:23pm Sat 23 Aug 08

How much more of this ***** are we supposed to take ? Steve Cotterill anyone ?

AFCB The Only, London says...
6:38pm Sat 23 Aug 08

Apparently it's a VERY good offer which Sport 6 have a limited time to accept otherwise the other party walk away.

Wasn't Baker quoted on record saying that if any better offer came in for the future of the club he wouldn't stand in their way ?

I've also heard that the 20/20 cricket day planned for Monday has sold less than 100 tickets and Saverimutto's apparent experise in commercial deals, will actually cost the club to stage the match.

Does anyone out there have confidence in these guys?

If we get the changes in place now at least we have a chance of avoiding non league football.

BAKER TAKE THE OFFER

Throopmill, Mt Everest says...
6:42pm Sat 23 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
Apparently it's a VERY good offer which Sport 6 have a limited time to accept otherwise the other party walk away. Wasn't Baker quoted on record saying that if any better offer came in for the future of the club he wouldn't stand in their way ? I've also heard that the 20/20 cricket day planned for Monday has sold less than 100 tickets and Saverimutto's apparent experise in commercial deals, will actually cost the club to stage the match. Does anyone out there have confidence in these guys? If we get the changes in place now at least we have a chance of avoiding non league football. BAKER TAKE THE OFFER
No Confidence at all.

Hope they play with a straight bat on Monday while Baker takes the offer!

Monty_9, Bournemouth says...
6:46pm Sat 23 Aug 08

apsolutely awful...im a first time poster long time reader...i dont have anything positive to say about that performance...i read all the posts and i dont agree with all the moaners but today was awful...playing one up front at home is soo negative also when you consider exeter only came up last year...i am not in favour of moaning at bond but there were no tactics today it seemed...it was awful...big change needed to avoid relehation...

hillbillys of wareham, wareham says...
6:47pm Sat 23 Aug 08

lferrone wrote:
mike wrote: I realy believe this was the worst performance in a league game I have seen for years. No shape, no pattern, no desire, no finishing. No hope? I have always tried to see the positives in the team, but after today's performance...with ONE 'striker' at home...where the hell do we go from here?
100% agree with your sentiments. I am not sure that those players who stayed on from last season are reflecting the 20% wage drop out on the field I hope not but there appears to be some apathy setting in.
it looked like there were 10 men out there with lead boots on thankfully Pryce didnt have any on.I thought we were a passimg team not a hoof it up there team,thats what we being told in the close season by KB.Im B.T.I.D. but ive never come away from a game so frustrated and p----d off since Alec Stocks era.

hillbillys of wareham, wareham says...
6:58pm Sat 23 Aug 08

and whats the problem with the shop.i was going to buy 2 shirts today thats £80 weve lost out in revenue for the club,obviously sport 6 have more money than were led to believe.soon were be the laughing stock of the league as the fans with old shirts.How about asking for volunteers to serve at the bars im sure they will be able to increase sales,2 staff at the bar hasn`t been enough for the last 2 games in the main stand.Jesus im getting frustrated even more,em going out to have a pint b4 i burst.

gary, Bournemouth says...
7:13pm Sat 23 Aug 08

an absolutely dire performance. not a single player showed any will to win and not half the commitment that exeter showed.... fully deserved to be booed off at the end

john coombes, Tiverton says...
7:23pm Sat 23 Aug 08

it is very worrying that Bond would appear to me making the same mistakes as last season, I am against the continual use of loan players but if you sign them then play them, there have been plenty of experienced strikers available this season we just do not look in the right areas, it is now time for the owners to start to operate the club properly the shop should now be open if there is a reason then tell us

AFCB The Only, London says...
7:24pm Sat 23 Aug 08

Macca has gone quiet I was looking forward to hear the official Sport 6 party line????

Nickolai, Bournemouth says...
7:59pm Sat 23 Aug 08

john coombes wrote:
it is very worrying that Bond would appear to me making the same mistakes as last season, I am against the continual use of loan players but if you sign them then play them, there have been plenty of experienced strikers available this season we just do not look in the right areas, it is now time for the owners to start to operate the club properly the shop should now be open if there is a reason then tell us
Exactly - we are no different to the majority of last season, utterly awful.
Something needs to be done and fast.
One upfront at home when we are on minus fifteen points is ludicrous.
No idea at all.

matt1981, merley says...
8:04pm Sat 23 Aug 08

please take the offer Mr Baker and please take Mr Bond with you.
today was the worst performance i can remember and ive been going for 20 years. Brett Pitman is not good enough for this league so to play him as a loan striker is totally unbelievable.

Richard Mayes, says...
8:36pm Sat 23 Aug 08

A truly dire performance, the first shot on goal not until the 70 minute and that after Sapperton made a belated entrance, One thing is sure Pitman hasn't either the pace or the physical presence to be the lone striker. There was a steady stream of supporters leaving ten minutes before the end. On this basis we would struggle in the Conference.

Throopmill, Mt Everest says...
8:48pm Sat 23 Aug 08

New Owners for September and a fresh start, ASAP please?

Bright New Future Mr Baker?

Mr B, did you read the small print when you bought this lot ready for the knackers yard?

Fred Karno could do better that this shower today!

hillbillys of wareham, wareham says...
8:50pm Sat 23 Aug 08

obviously no one remembers alec stock

pippam, winton says...
9:00pm Sat 23 Aug 08

possibly the worst performance i have ever seen.exeter were absolute rubbish and we were worse. i think im going to start eating humble pie as i always said give bond a chance. time for bond to go or money on permanate players to made avalible.

AFCB The Only, London says...
9:06pm Sat 23 Aug 08

Mr. Baker should be made accountable for his "bright new future" and "funds available speach". After the eurphia of getting the FL share back.

He clearly hasn't got the funds and apparently another party has met with Sport 6 and has put an offer in for Sport 6 to exit and to put in money immeditely to assist our survival efforts.

If he had any honour and welfare for our club at heart he should take the offer and step aside quickly so that they can can new palyers in and new coaching staff.

I have also heard Swann is sniffing around again and Baker is desperate and is looking to take his money. That would probably scupper the deal with the new guys.

Sounds harsh but we are talking league football vs. non league football. This is extremely serious, we are already 7 pts adrift.

SO BAKER STEP ASIDE NOW

mccherry, dorset says...
9:21pm Sat 23 Aug 08

Took the kids today for the first time for a while . Ive allways considered it a success as a parent that ive managed to steer them away from being glory hunting premiership team supporters . Could be a bit more difficult after today . As my youngest pointed out today "that number 9 isnt very good is he " . Hope Bonds got an eight year old at home who can point out the obvious to him !!

Plastic, eaststand says...
9:37pm Sat 23 Aug 08

Bartley earned his wages.

No will to win, no contribution from the tired looking senior players, negative tactics, no shots on goal.

6 match ultimatum worked last time in League 2.


uticad, Sunny Bormuff!! says...
9:41pm Sat 23 Aug 08

Very very dissapointed with the 'display' of 'football' on show today. Exeter were poor, but we were dire. Rotherham now 7 points clear of us, with 3 games played. I see no hope if we carry on like this.
By Christmas it will all be over. Sad, but true........

hillbillys of wareham, wareham says...
11:36pm Sat 23 Aug 08

alec stock!!!!!!!!!!

hillbillys of wareham, wareham says...
11:43pm Sat 23 Aug 08

hillbillys of wareham wrote:
alec stock!!!!!!!!!!
he had a very nice daughter who ran the embassy youth club in moordown,wanted to take her round the back of the bingo hall,looked abit like a slimmer version of Fern Britten or Penny on G.M.T.V. Lush in my day....

Throopmill, Mt Everest says...
12:48am Sun 24 Aug 08

hillbillys of wareham wrote:
hillbillys of wareham wrote: alec stock!!!!!!!!!!
he had a very nice daughter who ran the embassy youth club in moordown,wanted to take her round the back of the bingo hall,looked abit like a slimmer version of Fern Britten or Penny on G.M.T.V. Lush in my day....
Did you ?

Nick71, Poole says...
8:40am Sun 24 Aug 08

All the evidence was there today. Nothing else needs to be said except:-
Baker, Mostyn and Savvimutto do the decent thing and put the club in the hands of someone who really cares.
Bond do the honest thing and resign on Monday.
Those players who don't have their heart in it (and you know who you are) start looking elsewhere for employment.

kevvo, The dog house again says...
8:52am Sun 24 Aug 08

OK Guys I have stuck up for this lot because they got shot of Mostyn for us and have even gone against what I said last season and tried to see some good in Bond. But I have to say that Yesterday is proberbly the worst performance I have seen since Huddersfield in the Pullis days. I have to agree (becoming a habit now )with John Coombes. I cant see the reasoning for bringing in players on loan to sit on the bench. We essentially started a important home game with zero strikers (unless you count Pitman) when we had two on the bench. What is the point, Now even I think we need a change If this rumour is correct they should sell it cant be anything to do with Mostyn because they said funds would be available. So if its all true (I am suspicious) Thank you Mr Baker for saving the Club make your profit take Good Old Jeff with you and let some real investment come in

kevvo, The dog house again says...
8:57am Sun 24 Aug 08

mccherry wrote:
Took the kids today for the first time for a while . Ive allways considered it a success as a parent that ive managed to steer them away from being glory hunting premiership team supporters . Could be a bit more difficult after today . As my youngest pointed out today "that number 9 isnt very good is he " . Hope Bonds got an eight year old at home who can point out the obvious to him !!
THe Club should invite you and your Kids to the Club for the day in way of an apology for putting them through that awfull performance. Seems they can already recognise a bad footballer though. Perhaps Bondy should use them as talent scouts. Seriosly this is one of the things that is seriously wrong with the Club Youngsters need to be encoraged to attend but for that to happen they need to be entertained. Clearly this is not a priority at our Club.

Richard Mayes, says...
9:05am Sun 24 Aug 08

alasdair wrote:
muffin the mule wrote: another very poor performance,we just are not cutting it yet this year,its not a 'team' yet by a long stretch
we are a team made up of loan players and will be for the foreseeable future how can a team gel as a unit with so many comings and goings and sadly i see it being like this all season unless we can get more perminant players in as i said out with the old sorry same story as last season early form and administration got us relegated we have already lost more points than we did last season and the form is the same does not bode well at all
Not true - we started with one loan player = Wagstaff - which makes the situation even worse. Only two earned their keep yesterday Bartley and Cummings - and you can excuse Danny Hollands who clearly could not be match fit. Nut the other seven!!!

macca02, Farpoint says...
9:26am Sun 24 Aug 08

The message was loud and clear after that performance, it's not working and the chances are running out, what is worse that was the team with only one of the loan players so you can't even blame them. I have said we need to give the new owners time to see what they can do, but if there are these other people (how many times have we heard that one) then if they have the money (which I doubt), then they should step in now before the rot sets in for the season. Bond has proven that the turn around last term was down to the players and not his tactics, if we can't beat teams at home like Exeter then we are at the lowest point in years. They do say though that the night is always darkest just before the dawn, let's hope that rings true, on the positive side there are still 5 or 6 teams who have yet to get a point this season. So Mr Baker we need to see something to improve the team this week, I still don't blame you for this team it's all but the same one from last season and with the mess over the summer we were always going to struggle, what we do need though is something from you that will instill confidence in the supporters otherwise this tide will rapidly turn against you, time to prove yourself.

dan, kinson says...
9:37am Sun 24 Aug 08

players clearly under pressure, mentally it must be very very difficult to start the season as they have done, you would have to be some team to overcome the deficit and get close to the play offs as it would have to be a massive season to do so, couldn't make the game so can't really say but i did listen, poor performance, i have to say i don't think it helped bringing the keeper in as he did, but injuries are typical as it tests the squad, perhaps we should point the blame at the fuss caused by an absentee yesterday, incidentally bristol rovers scored 6 jo, do they really need you? flu? yes right mate, one more thing lads, 3 games gone and even after next saturdays game and the 2 cup games, rovers and cardiff, we would not have played a 'seasoned' league 2 club in the first 6 games of the season, anyway just a thought.

Nick71, Poole says...
9:40am Sun 24 Aug 08

Good point Dan. We have played the 2 sides promoted from the conference and gained only 1 point from the 6 on offer. Oh dear!

Tom Griffiths., Bransgore. says...
10:26am Sun 24 Aug 08

Pretty comprehensive all round summing up of a depressing situation by Macca02, can't think of much to add to that.
With all this talk of the failure of playing one so called striker up front, I would dearly love to see a Manager with the courage to set out a team in the formation it was in the past.
For those unable to remember those wonderful halcyon days of football we had a goalkeeper, two full backs,three in the middle and five up the front, all very sensibly numbered one to eleven, so that we all knew that a no. 9 was called a centre forward and a centre half was a No.5.
Nowadays we have squad numbers from one to twenty six (or more)and nobody knows who is supposed to be doing what?? The norm is to make anything up to ten passes in your own half, before getting across the centre line and having no one up front to complete the object of the whole exercise, to put the ball in the opponent's net. The so called passing game is pretty to watch, but it must have an end product to have any effect on a result. Lack of goals has been a problem at AFCB for several seasons and I believe the passing game,much as we all like to see it, has been somewhat overplayed when we so badly need someone who can find the net on a much more regular basis than we have seen in recent seasons.

ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX says...
10:35am Sun 24 Aug 08

Andy_roo and Mrs Moaner of Highcliffe I notice your comments are missing after all you said about AFCB and how well we will do. Too embarrassed eh?
I did say a new owner will come in and Dean Court Gardens will be built, but you laughed.
Remember -He who laughs last laughs longest!!

muffin the mule, wallisdown says...
10:42am Sun 24 Aug 08

DARREN ANDERTON wasnt sulking about it at 4 o'clock this morning in Spearmint Rhino !!!!

macca02, Farpoint says...
11:07am Sun 24 Aug 08

muffin the mule wrote:
DARREN ANDERTON wasnt sulking about it at 4 o'clock this morning in Spearmint Rhino !!!!
By the sound of it neither were you muffin lol.

muffin the mule, wallisdown says...
11:19am Sun 24 Aug 08

DARREN ANDERTON wasnt sulking about it at 4 o'clock this morning in Spearmint Rhino !!!!

Big Rich, Ferndown says...
11:54am Sun 24 Aug 08

ALL SEEING EYE wrote:
Andy_roo and Mrs Moaner of Highcliffe I notice your comments are missing after all you said about AFCB and how well we will do. Too embarrassed eh?
I did say a new owner will come in and Dean Court Gardens will be built, but you laughed.
Remember -He who laughs last laughs longest!!
So wheres the gardens then. Been going on about it for ages. Nice to see your laughing. Sadgit. Get a life. Loser

Big Rich, Ferndown says...
11:57am Sun 24 Aug 08

Cannot believe we are playing one up front at home.

Pitman is just not good enough in million years.

Bartley tailor made with his energy and bite for a centre midfield and we play him wide.

Very confusing

frankfidler, florida usa says...
12:10pm Sun 24 Aug 08

ive been suporting the cherries for nearly 60 years and lived thro all our ups and downs. these times are the worst its ever been. even if new owners come in the transfer window is closed in 7 days time. bond is in an impossible situation and frankly i dont know what the answer is.

alasdair, windsor/kosovo says...
12:25pm Sun 24 Aug 08

current form will see us overtaken by luton that will unexcusable this needs to be sorted and sorted now as for players nightclubbing after a home defeat they should be disciplined by the club

mike, poole says...
1:08pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Alasdair, much as I feel similar frustrations, a player cannot be disciplined by the club for 'nightclubbing' AFTER a match...but I certainly don't condone it!

Moose, Ferndown says...
2:47pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Usual Echo rubbish reporting - no mention that about 10 seconds before Exeter scored Danny Hollands got a kick in the head, that should've been a free-kick to us.He was going mental at the ref when he gave the goal, did no-one notice.I was absolutely furious.And I think that match confirmed that Pitman cannot play as a lone striker,he only got into the game a bit when he went out wide.His effort needs to improve wherever he plays, as Darren Andreton was letting him know in no uncertain terms more than once.

macca02, Farpoint says...
3:18pm Sun 24 Aug 08

alasdair wrote:
current form will see us overtaken by luton that will unexcusable this needs to be sorted and sorted now as for players nightclubbing after a home defeat they should be disciplined by the club
Let's not get carried away, Luton are not fairing any better than we are,only Rotherham of the bottom 3 have had the good start and they have played weaker teams, I agree it was not good enough yesterday but it's still only 3 games in, we haven't played a side from last seasons league 2 teams, things have to improve for sure but let's not let anger could judgment, there are still several teams yet to get a point. As for Anderton whats the big fuss, would your customers complain about you going out if you had a bad day at work, there is nothing wrong with letting your hair down after a bad result, Anderton has worked his socks off this season so why shouldn't he.

AK450, Corfe Mullen, Wimborne says...
3:19pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Any chance I could have my £15 back? The performance like the club was a joke

kevvo, The dog house again says...
3:21pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Big Rich wrote:
Cannot believe we are playing one up front at home. Pitman is just not good enough in million years. Bartley tailor made with his energy and bite for a centre midfield and we play him wide. Very confusing
I know its bloody negative stuff at home with points to make up and in reality we played zero up front

macca02, Farpoint says...
3:21pm Sun 24 Aug 08

frankfidler wrote:
ive been suporting the cherries for nearly 60 years and lived thro all our ups and downs. these times are the worst its ever been. even if new owners come in the transfer window is closed in 7 days time. bond is in an impossible situation and frankly i dont know what the answer is.
For sure it's the hardest times we have seen at the club, we were nearly out of business just a few weeks ago, it is going to take time to come back from that, you would think it was easy the way some people are having a go, there is no quick fix and the league didn't help with the -17 points, things were always going to be hard this season those claiming we should be aiming for promotion are having a reality check, all we can hope for is that the new owners do have a plan and that Bond is not as inept as things are starting to look, the next week is going to make or break our season, it's that close a call right now.

macca02, Farpoint says...
3:25pm Sun 24 Aug 08

kevvo wrote:
Big Rich wrote:
Cannot believe we are playing one up front at home. Pitman is just not good enough in million years. Bartley tailor made with his energy and bite for a centre midfield and we play him wide. Very confusing
I know its bloody negative stuff at home with points to make up and in reality we played zero up front
In reality we don't have the players up front, we haven't had a decent striker in years, we need players to turn this around. I still can't work out why we bought the young striker form Liverpool in and then not play him, Pitmann is proving time and again he just doesn't have what it takes, sorry to say it but he's not going to get us out of this.

macca02, Farpoint says...
3:28pm Sun 24 Aug 08

AK450 wrote:
Any chance I could have my £15 back? The performance like the club was a joke
And why is the club a joke, surely you are not saying that, it's one thing having a poor game but calling the club a joke is a bit harsh, how quickly people forget where we have come from in the past few weeks.

AFCB The Only, London says...
4:32pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Macca, why would you "doubt" the potential new buyers have any money. You are completely speaking of an area you know absolutely nothing about.

The source I heard the news from yesterday was completely A1 reliable and a loyal supporter of this club for many more years than most.

Apparently a number of key supporters have already met with these people and are 1000% sure that the money is there and the football knowledge is there.

It's our best option, proper investment, new coaching staff (hopefully) and some fresh blood on the field.

All another week will prove is that we will loose at Port Vale and become 10pts adrift of safety after 4 games.


RobT, says...
4:41pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Well, any club can be "up for sale". It really does depend whether these potential buyers will put their money where their mouth is. It didn't happen during administration. Lots of mouth but no money.

macca02, Farpoint says...
4:42pm Sun 24 Aug 08

If they are so nailed on and it's all a done deal then name them AFCB the only ... I am not so easily persuaded buy arguments that include I have a reliable source etc Also what has being a supporter for many years have to do with the validity of the claim? come on if it's true then tell is who it is, we have had 9 months of this someone knows someone who once knew someone who said they might know someone who has some money which they may or may not use to buy or not buy the club, truth is we have heard it all before so if there is any truth in it above and beyond the stuff we have already heard about these people then let's see it, I know who they are just as you do but I would love to see it actually happen, after all didn't you say the current owners were all talk, let's see if these new "owners" will actually do as you say.

macca02, Farpoint says...
4:45pm Sun 24 Aug 08

One other point, it's not all about who has more money than someone else it's also about how the club will be run, what we don't need is another owner who will come in invest this money you claim they will and then run the club into more debt trying to get their money back, I would much rather see the club stay afloat debt free and rebuild over a longer period of time a quick fix is not the solution and this new claim of another buyer sounds like it to me, stability is what we need now more than ever.

AFCB The Only, London says...
4:59pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Macca, I note your points. You don't really expect me to say who gave me the info, that is betraying confidence. I have no idea who these potential buyers are, but if you do please let me know.

As to quick fixes, YES PLEASE, we are 23rd in League 2, 7pts adrift after 3 league games. 2 difficult away games coming up and (I hope not) but realistically 10+ points adrift before our next home games.

If you asked 4,000+ Bournemouth fans leaving the ground yesterday, they would all love a "quick fix".

Going down to non league football and saying it's a rebuild job isn't acceptable. It took Aldershot 18 years to "rebuild".

macca02, Farpoint says...
5:06pm Sun 24 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
Macca, I note your points. You don't really expect me to say who gave me the info, that is betraying confidence. I have no idea who these potential buyers are, but if you do please let me know.

As to quick fixes, YES PLEASE, we are 23rd in League 2, 7pts adrift after 3 league games. 2 difficult away games coming up and (I hope not) but realistically 10+ points adrift before our next home games.

If you asked 4,000+ Bournemouth fans leaving the ground yesterday, they would all love a "quick fix".

Going down to non league football and saying it's a rebuild job isn't acceptable. It took Aldershot 18 years to "rebuild".
You are not being realistic, what do you expect a new owner to do? we have a week before the transfer window closes so the club wont be sold before then, that then means no possible signings before January unless you want loan signings but you have made it quite clear they are out, then you want a new manager, no time for them to bring in new players so we will still have the same players, its a known fact it takes 10 games for a new manager to work out the team, so how is the quick fix a solution? What we need is for the team to pull a win out of the bag and get the confidence up and for the owners to add to the team in the little time we have left, just ditching Baker for a new owner will not change the results or the team, and I can't recall anyone suggesting we should go down to the conference but a new manager and owner right now could well be the catalist for the very thing we don't want. Baker must sack or back Bond and we have to get players to turn this around there is no quick fix solution.

AFCB The Only, London says...
5:20pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Macca, again see your points of view, but I disagree about new managers taking 10 games.

In most cases a new manager coming in works immediately and turns around a struggling team that can't previously buy a win for love nor money.

We need someone who is going to ignite this club and get the players motivated, again ask 4,000+ Bournemouth fans yesterday and you wouldn't find many that thinks KB could ignite a bombfire with a can of petrol and a box of matches.

I do actually agree with one of your arguments about the transfer window and not being able to buy new players now until January.

So our beloved Sport 6 / new owners should have ensured that we had a strong enough team / squad before the window closes, rather than adpot a "rob Peter to pay Paul" short sighted loan policy.

By the way you haven't told us who you think the potential new buyers are?

macca02, Farpoint says...
5:27pm Sun 24 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
Macca, again see your points of view, but I disagree about new managers taking 10 games.

In most cases a new manager coming in works immediately and turns around a struggling team that can't previously buy a win for love nor money.

We need someone who is going to ignite this club and get the players motivated, again ask 4,000+ Bournemouth fans yesterday and you wouldn't find many that thinks KB could ignite a bombfire with a can of petrol and a box of matches.

I do actually agree with one of your arguments about the transfer window and not being able to buy new players now until January.

So our beloved Sport 6 / new owners should have ensured that we had a strong enough team / squad before the window closes, rather than adpot a "rob Peter to pay Paul" short sighted loan policy.

By the way you haven't told us who you think the potential new buyers are?
Try Keegan, try Jewell there are many more examples if it not having an immediate effect, even Mel Machin needed a few games, let's not kid ourselves here it is not that easy to turn things around. As for the owners bringing in players over the summer, where have you been? there has been nothing in place to attempt any signings until 2 weeks ago, under normal circumstances then by all means they would be held responsible but again you are expecting too much in such a short time. Why should I say who the new potential owners are I am not the one claiming there is going to be one, you do try and twist things and deflect from things are you our local Mp by any chance? still waiting for those facts by the way.

RobT, says...
5:28pm Sun 24 Aug 08

You're the one "in the loop" London. Tell us, go on! It's worth £1. ;-)

AFCB The Only, London says...
5:34pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Macca said he knew offer him the dosh mate.

macca02, Farpoint says...
5:37pm Sun 24 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
Macca said he knew offer him the dosh mate.
I said I know of the rumour you claim to know who they are from your reliable A1 source, once again deflecting your lack of facts onto someone else, dear oh dear.

AFCB The Only, London says...
5:40pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Sorry Macca you have completely lost me, go try and a lay down and log back in when you you can talk some sense.

macca02, Farpoint says...
5:46pm Sun 24 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
Sorry Macca you have completely lost me, go try and a lay down and log back in when you you can talk some sense.
Not another personal insult what a surprise that is....yawn.

AFCB The Only, London says...
5:51pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Macca by the way managers to make an instant impact after starting at a new club:

Arsen Wenger
Harry Redknapp
George Graham
Jose Mourinho
Kenny Dalglish

There are of course many more but you may have heard of these ones?

RobT, says...
5:51pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Macca - London previously wrote:

"I have also heard Swann is sniffing around again and Baker is desperate and is looking to take his money. That would probably scupper the deal with the new guys."

macca02, Farpoint says...
5:53pm Sun 24 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
Macca by the way managers to make an instant impact after starting at a new club:

Arsen Wenger
Harry Redknapp
George Graham
Jose Mourinho
Kenny Dalglish

There are of course many more but you may have heard of these ones?
Is that your opinion for bringing in a new manager, I notice no Bournemouth managers in that list unless you mean Harry who got us a 9-0 defeat at Lincoln (the club record defeat) in his first game so good choices.

AFCB The Only, London says...
5:54pm Sun 24 Aug 08

macca look I'm not getting personal it's just that in some of your posts your not making sense.

As I have put on some of the other threads, let's just agree to disagree I am sure other people are getting bored of this.

AFCB The Only, London says...
5:58pm Sun 24 Aug 08

No I was actually talking about his starts at Portsmouth and West Ham.

The players packed the "wrong studs" in the 9-0 defeat at Lincoln so it doesn't count!

macca02, Farpoint says...
5:58pm Sun 24 Aug 08

RobT wrote:
Macca - London previously wrote:

"I have also heard Swann is sniffing around again and Baker is desperate and is looking to take his money. That would probably scupper the deal with the new guys."
It's all the same old rumours we have heard for ages and with the same people, we all know who they are, but we are not the ones claiming its' all going to happen if the club had a £1 for every time we heard this then it would never have gone bust in the first place lol. I know I would love a new owner with money to burn who could plough millions into the club, buy back the stadium bring in the next England or Brazil manager, I think we would all love that, in reality it's more likely to be an insurance salesman who got a Christmas bonus and would like something better than his Xbox to play football on, dreams are wonderful things we should all have them but this is the real world, the cherries are worth nothing no one is going to want to blow money they will never see again on a little sea side club that has never won a trophy in it's life, oh how I wish they would though.

macca02, Farpoint says...
5:59pm Sun 24 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
No I was actually talking about his starts at Portsmouth and West Ham.

The players packed the "wrong studs" in the 9-0 defeat at Lincoln so it doesn't count!
You left out what he did at Southampton I see!!!!

macca02, Farpoint says...
6:01pm Sun 24 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
macca look I'm not getting personal it's just that in some of your posts your not making sense.

As I have put on some of the other threads, let's just agree to disagree I am sure other people are getting bored of this.
"go try and a lay down and log back in when you you can talk some sense". Not getting personal, whats that then?

AFCB The Only, London says...
6:08pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Wow Macca, you have a very low opinion of our club, I think a lot of AFCB fans would take serious issue with your comments that we are a "little sea side club that has never won a trophy"

Actually you are (to use your own words) "fatually" incorrect we won the first associates members cup and the League 2 play off final trophy. (by the way that was in Cardiff)

Does anyone else feel we are just a "little seaside club"?

Nickolai, Bournemouth says...
6:13pm Sun 24 Aug 08

macca02 wrote:
RobT wrote: Macca - London previously wrote: "I have also heard Swann is sniffing around again and Baker is desperate and is looking to take his money. That would probably scupper the deal with the new guys."
It's all the same old rumours we have heard for ages and with the same people, we all know who they are, but we are not the ones claiming its' all going to happen if the club had a £1 for every time we heard this then it would never have gone bust in the first place lol. I know I would love a new owner with money to burn who could plough millions into the club, buy back the stadium bring in the next England or Brazil manager, I think we would all love that, in reality it's more likely to be an insurance salesman who got a Christmas bonus and would like something better than his Xbox to play football on, dreams are wonderful things we should all have them but this is the real world, the cherries are worth nothing no one is going to want to blow money they will never see again on a little sea side club that has never won a trophy in it's life, oh how I wish they would though.
Wrong ! We won the Associate Members Cup in 1984 - beating Hull City 2-1 at Boothferry Park !
Also, the small matter of the old Third Division Championship in 87.
Not in Liverpool's league I admit, but trophies nonetheless !

macca02, Farpoint says...
6:20pm Sun 24 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
Wow Macca, you have a very low opinion of our club, I think a lot of AFCB fans would take serious issue with your comments that we are a "little sea side club that has never won a trophy"

Actually you are (to use your own words) "fatually" incorrect we won the first associates members cup and the League 2 play off final trophy. (by the way that was in Cardiff)

Does anyone else feel we are just a "little seaside club"?
Is that it? you keep saying you have finished and everyone will be getting bored and yet here we go again, and what is fatually, I don't know that word lol. If you want to quote trophies you missed the league 3 title, and the Hants senior cup, any cherries fan knows what I mean when I say we are a small seaside club it's no insult to the club I am proud to be a supporter of them for more years than I care to remember, I don't want them to be like the prem clubs with no personality, just after your money and no community, so yep I am happy to say what I did as any self cherries fan would be. When I referred to trophies I was talking about F.A.Cups, League Cups the kind of trophies that bring in investors, you are determined to twist what I say, fine go ahead my conscience is clear.

macca02, Farpoint says...
6:21pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Nickolai wrote:
macca02 wrote:
RobT wrote: Macca - London previously wrote: "I have also heard Swann is sniffing around again and Baker is desperate and is looking to take his money. That would probably scupper the deal with the new guys."
It's all the same old rumours we have heard for ages and with the same people, we all know who they are, but we are not the ones claiming its' all going to happen if the club had a £1 for every time we heard this then it would never have gone bust in the first place lol. I know I would love a new owner with money to burn who could plough millions into the club, buy back the stadium bring in the next England or Brazil manager, I think we would all love that, in reality it's more likely to be an insurance salesman who got a Christmas bonus and would like something better than his Xbox to play football on, dreams are wonderful things we should all have them but this is the real world, the cherries are worth nothing no one is going to want to blow money they will never see again on a little sea side club that has never won a trophy in it's life, oh how I wish they would though.
Wrong ! We won the Associate Members Cup in 1984 - beating Hull City 2-1 at Boothferry Park !
Also, the small matter of the old Third Division Championship in 87.
Not in Liverpool's league I admit, but trophies nonetheless !
Come on hardly the biggest cabinet required for that lot is it, you missed out the Hants Senior cup whist you were at it.

AFCB The Only, London says...
6:22pm Sun 24 Aug 08

It was the first ever Associates Members Cup, so because we beat Hull City, does it make that wrong?.

OK so why did you say we hadn't won anything in your previous post?

After all we are just a "little seaside club"

macca02, Farpoint says...
6:23pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Nickolai wrote:
macca02 wrote:
RobT wrote: Macca - London previously wrote: "I have also heard Swann is sniffing around again and Baker is desperate and is looking to take his money. That would probably scupper the deal with the new guys."
It's all the same old rumours we have heard for ages and with the same people, we all know who they are, but we are not the ones claiming its' all going to happen if the club had a £1 for every time we heard this then it would never have gone bust in the first place lol. I know I would love a new owner with money to burn who could plough millions into the club, buy back the stadium bring in the next England or Brazil manager, I think we would all love that, in reality it's more likely to be an insurance salesman who got a Christmas bonus and would like something better than his Xbox to play football on, dreams are wonderful things we should all have them but this is the real world, the cherries are worth nothing no one is going to want to blow money they will never see again on a little sea side club that has never won a trophy in it's life, oh how I wish they would though.
Wrong ! We won the Associate Members Cup in 1984 - beating Hull City 2-1 at Boothferry Park !
Also, the small matter of the old Third Division Championship in 87.
Not in Liverpool's league I admit, but trophies nonetheless !
I know what we have won I was at those games!!!!!!

macca02, Farpoint says...
6:24pm Sun 24 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
It was the first ever Associates Members Cup, so because we beat Hull City, does it make that wrong?.

OK so why did you say we hadn't won anything in your previous post?

After all we are just a "little seaside club"
Another poor attempt to deflect from your insults I see, no answers but plenty of attempts to knock what I say, didn't you say we were all entitled to our own opinions, I know what mine is of you.

macca02, Farpoint says...
6:33pm Sun 24 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
It was the first ever Associates Members Cup, so because we beat Hull City, does it make that wrong?.

OK so why did you say we hadn't won anything in your previous post?

After all we are just a "little seaside club"
Did you just look that up on Google lol.

mt1609, bridgwater says...
6:35pm Sun 24 Aug 08

SACK BOND NOW. you have to positive to get out of this league

AFCB The Only, London says...
6:58pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Well said mt1609, but Macca02 won't agree with you so brace yourself for a load of verbal abuse and a long winded reply about how you shouldn't say anything against the new owners or Bond. He will try and shout you down and ask you to back your "opinion" up with facts about why Bond should be sacked.
Aparently we have to give him and Sport 6 more of a chamce.

kevvo, The dog house again says...
7:18pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Dont know what this big fight and exchange of insults is about seems a bit personal to me but I think that we had all hoped Bond had learnt his lessons last season but Saturday was a tactical disaster he had 3 forwards to pick from so he picked one that has consistantly let us down in the past. What is the point of bringing loan players in because you are desperate for forwards and then not playing them. I would have said on a level playing field wait for a bit but this is not a level playing field and we cant afford to wait If Bond insist on picking Pitman then he should go we cant afford this to go on as it is

kevvo, The dog house again says...
7:24pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Put yourself in Sappletons position.
Brought in put on bench comes on scores a goal then dropped by Bond who prefers Pitman. He must be thinking half a game one goal in a Team that has no strikers Why am I here. I just dont understand Bonds tactics

AFCB The Only, London says...
7:26pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Sorry Kevvo, I agree it's got too personal. We all want this club to survive, but some of us have differing opinions. I don't even know who Macca is so it shouldn't have got that personal. Macca sorry mate lets wipe the slate clean. Look forward to debating following events with you and hope that we will be discussing our march up the table sooner rather than later.

But in my opinion somethings have to change and quickly.

kevvo, The dog house again says...
7:42pm Sun 24 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
Sorry Kevvo, I agree it's got too personal. We all want this club to survive, but some of us have differing opinions. I don't even know who Macca is so it shouldn't have got that personal. Macca sorry mate lets wipe the slate clean. Look forward to debating following events with you and hope that we will be discussing our march up the table sooner rather than later. But in my opinion somethings have to change and quickly.
No need to apologise I can see what both of you are on about. And from my point of view I am glad that these new people got the club out og Mostyns grubby hand (and have taken a lot of stick for my views) but you are right something has to change and if Bond his pinning the goalscoring future of this Club in Pitman he has to be taken out of the job on the grounds that he haslost any sense of reality. Something needs to be done before the Port Vale game

Big Rich, Ferndown says...
8:22pm Sun 24 Aug 08

kevvo wrote:
Put yourself in Sappletons position.
Brought in put on bench comes on scores a goal then dropped by Bond who prefers Pitman. He must be thinking half a game one goal in a Team that has no strikers Why am I here. I just dont understand Bonds tactics
Totally agree with you.

Pitman has had plenty of chances now. All well and good scoring goals against Hamworthy and Eastleigh and whoever else in pre-season but he is never going to make the pro grade.

Judging by Anderton's reaction to his lack of effort mid match he thinks the same.

He has even lost the ability of running around like a headless chicken which was his main attribute

Monty_9, Bournemouth says...
8:50pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Financially, could we afford to pay off bond and then bring in somebody that can do better?...

AFCB The Only, London says...
9:06pm Sun 24 Aug 08

I don't think it's difficult to find someone that can do better than Bond, but they (the owners) can't afford to get rid of him.

Let's say for example that they have spent all their resources on the exit out of administration (let's say for example they have even borrowed money (from a friendly group), that needs paying back, then they can't afford to get rid of Mr. Bond.

There's a good manager called Mr. Jimmy Quinn who I am sure is waiting to come in, but it's all down to money.

Throopmill, Mt Everest says...
9:08pm Sun 24 Aug 08

mt1609 wrote:
SACK BOND NOW. you have to positive to get out of this league
I think that statement is being spoken by a lot of supporters.

The club cannot afford to dribble many more points away before we are beyond the point of no return and Conference football will be the order of the day.

Baker has his hands full with a festering mess and an empty wallet!

AFCB The Only, London says...
9:29pm Sun 24 Aug 08

Careful what you say Throopmill, certain people get very upset if you say anything against the current owners, I agree with the festering mess and empty wallett comments though!

Mind you, you will probably now be asked at least a dozen times to back up the empty wallett comment by facts.

frankfidler, florida usa says...
9:43pm Sun 24 Aug 08

i think phil brown should pay us compensation because we turned him down. we took on kb instead. phil as u all know went on to manage hull in the premiership. funny old game football

Throopmill, Mt Everest says...
10:44pm Sun 24 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
Careful what you say Throopmill, certain people get very upset if you say anything against the current owners, I agree with the festering mess and empty wallett comments though! Mind you, you will probably now be asked at least a dozen times to back up the empty wallett comment by facts.
I ask him to buy me a beer after game and he showed me an empty wallet!

Yours Truly

Thirsty Bu**er

macca02, Farpoint says...
8:15am Mon 25 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
Careful what you say Throopmill, certain people get very upset if you say anything against the current owners, I agree with the festering mess and empty wallett comments though!

Mind you, you will probably now be asked at least a dozen times to back up the empty wallett comment by facts.
You say in one post to wipe the slate clean and the you post this, I give up with you, I have am not getting into a slagging match with you, it would appear thats what you want, I have tried to have a discussion with you but you have done nothing but post personal attacks on me for too many posts now, if you actually read what I have said you would know how I feel about Bond I have felt the same for a long time, so let's stop the snide remarks and the personal stuff can we, I am happy to discuss the football and the football only.

AFCB The Only, London says...
8:37am Mon 25 Aug 08

Macca, I didn't actually name anybody I said "certain people"

macca02, Farpoint says...
9:20am Mon 25 Aug 08

AFCB The Only wrote:
Macca, I didn't actually name anybody I said "certain people"
We both know who you meant so give it a rest now will you.

RobT, says...
2:02pm Mon 25 Aug 08

Whats Jimmy Quinns record as a manager?

macca02, Farpoint says...
2:38pm Mon 25 Aug 08

RobT wrote:
Whats Jimmy Quinns record as a manager?
Dancing Queen by ABBA.

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