Investigation launched as toddler breaks leg at nusery in Tuckton (From Thisisdorset)

"because I’m a single mum I need the money."
This no doubt explains her rush to legal action. Children climb, children fall and ACCIDENTS happen. No amount of exploiting the 'compensation culture' will prevent straightforward accidents.

I agree with the post above. It all boils down to money.

While it is not pleasant for anyone involved in this accident - that is exactly what it is and accidents will happen and do not necessarily mean anyone is at fault. He could just as easily have done it at the local playground with his mum present.

I admire her for getting herself a job, but surely she need not have given it up entirely? Any understanding boss would have helped her to work around the situation until the tot is able to go back to nursery?

If she wraps him in cotton wool over this accident and does not send him to another nursery once his leg is healed, he will grow up feeling insecure, afraid of being in social situations and consequently will not settle when he eventually goes to school - and she won't be able to keep him at home all the time then ......

Any compensation for a minor goes into trust for the child. I'm sure you guys would be angry if your child wasn't being supervised properly, yes accidents happen but this child was new at the nursery and the staff should have made sure one to one supervision was there until they knew his capabilities.

Obviously this apparatus shouldnt be used by small children ,now this has happened ,it needs supervising, ( all the time ) to make sure this does not happen again,older children only to use it.The fact that women have to go to work to survive and have to leave their very small children with anybody is a sad state of our times.No one is going to care for your children as much as you .As for accidents happening ,thats what we pay staff for , to PREVENT accidents like this happening,forsight is a great thing...

I blame Issac Newton.

lilliputian wrote:
"because I’m a single mum I need the money." This no doubt explains her rush to legal action. Children climb, children fall and ACCIDENTS happen. No amount of exploiting the 'compensation culture' will prevent straightforward accidents.

"because im a single mum i need the money".........you should think about that!! or maybe read the article again.......she doesnt want the money from compensation, but from her job! dont judge people you dont know, shows how sad u are!

Can't people just have accidents anymore without looking to blame someone? This compensation culture is getting ridiculous.

BournemouthMum wrote:
Can't people just have accidents anymore without looking to blame someone? This compensation culture is getting ridiculous.

No when someone is to blame. The nursery were paid to look after that child and failed to do so.

My child fell off a log about a foot high at a park and broke her collarbone. Maybe I should sue myself for creating her in the first place. It was an ACCIDENT!

I have 3 kids, all adults now.
All 3 have broken arms, legs etc. at different times.
I have never sued any-one because of this and my kids have never sued me.
Maybe I should let them know that I have always had accident insurance on our home.
They could make a fortune on my "mis-management"!

Its upsetting yes when your child falls over but its all part of the growing up. He could of fallen over with his mum while out playing or at home a few days or weeks before starting play group and weakened it so when he did fall it fractured, a child at that age probably wont fracture a bone as they stay abit more relexed plus the bones are still soft so would need a few bumps before anything would happen . She should really think about it before she starts ruining peoples businesses.

I am familiar with Kings Castle and I know the level of supervision is good. However, from a mum's point of view, I have seen many mums feel very guilty and apprehensive and worried about putting their baby, however old, into nursery (or even when they start school) and trusting others to care for the most precious person in your life. If they get injured, even a small scratch, I have seen parents really upset and guilty for leaving them. Yes, this is a more serious injury, and it is very unfortunate that it had to happen, and that she has had to give up her new job (the reason the boy was there in the first place), and she may now have to survive on benefits. This is probably a knee-jerk reaction because the little boy was so new at the nursery and mum had just gone through that horrible process of leaving your baby for the first time in a nursery, and I hope that Ofsted are sensible in finding that it was an accident, and hopefully all things were in place as they should have been. Accidents can happen in a split second and even if there was a 1:2 ratio, this could have happened...

Poor tike. Hope he heals soon.
I have to say as a mum with a near 3 year old I'd be appalled if it happened to me and be taking action aswell. Why was he no one there to catch him? He's only 19 months. Needs further investigation. I'm sure as parents if you recieved a phone call a under 2 hours into his first day you'd be wondering what the hell people are doing aswell..

A 19 month old he should not of been 3 foot up in the air someone should of been holding his hand ,I think some of these comments are awful if she had been sat watching JK she would of been slated but she had paid someone to look after her son while at work and they failed I would if been fuming

It was an unfortunate accident. Kids fall off things all the time, that's why it is essential to have a soft surface to land on (as the nursery had done). If you land awkwardly sometimes things break.
Hope the little lad heals OK and put it down to one of lifes many experiences, there is more to come!
I suppose the boy will be banned from climbing frames now or anything that is "of height", whilst his friends carry on. He will feel so left out.

Actually, yes Motherhen4, I do agree it sounds like quite a height for a 19 month old to be at and fall from, but if you look at the 'Little Tikes First Slide' this has a height of 119.3cm, or 3'11", suitable from 18 months... http://www.argos.co.
uk/static/Product/pa
rtNumber/3891429.htm

Accident, blame, media, compo. We have indeed reached the stage where these four subjects are becoming inseperable. Maybe time to summarise as simply 'compodents'. Cannot blame the lady concerned, it is now a cultural default - we let it happen.
There is actually a little child with a fractured leg here, you could almost overlook that aspect!

You lot compianing saying its all about money when u no Jack the word used i need the money was NOT meaning i'm suin i need the money it ment i went bk to work as i need the money so i'm not on benifits and for another matter none of u were there when she got the call at work to say her son had a fall she had only been in her shift for an hr and left as soon as the call came in and was very upset about it and was in hospital with him for hrs so b4 u say kids will b kids and wont sue but i bet u if ur child got hurt on a bus fell at school fell down a hole an none of u would sue i find that unlikely as parents we would do anything for our kids the ppl we trust with our children have a responsibilty to look after them thats what we pay them to do if you caant say anyting positive dont say it

How on earth can u all say she is on it for money she is a single parent who got herself a job most people know how hard it is to get a job these days, she managed to get one if she was in it for money she wudnt ave even been lookin for work gettin all she could off the goverment, she put all her trust into the nursery who are there to LOOK after ur child while your at work when clearly they werent looking after ethan im disgusted what you all think shes doing this for,if you put ur trust in a nursery n it happened to ur child ur tellin me u wud sit back and let it lie clearly u dont love ur child if u did that!!!! Kim i admire u chick id of done exactly the same as u, and everyone knows if u did get any money for ethan the solicters wud make sure it went into a trust fund until he was older or they wudnt pay out x

lilliputian wrote:
"because I’m a single mum I need the money."
This no doubt explains her rush to legal action. Children climb, children fall and ACCIDENTS happen. No amount of exploiting the 'compensation culture' will prevent straightforward accidents.

How is it a straight forward accident,its neglagence on there behalf they were paid to do a job and could'nt warrant that,now the small kid has a broken leg the lady has had to give up her new job to look after her son,has no income and is not claiming of the governent,so why is she in the wrong to make a claim,shes not shes intitled to,ask your self this if you were single mum wanting best for your son get your self a job and due to no control of your own this accident has happened and you now have a 19 month old son with broken leg no job no money coming in due to someone elses negalagence,answer you would want to now why and how this has happened plus what your entitled to!

Bournemouth4 wrote:
Any compensation for a minor goes into trust for the child. I'm sure you guys would be angry if your child wasn't being supervised properly, yes accidents happen but this child was new at the nursery and the staff should have made sure one to one supervision was there until they knew his capabilities.

No it doesnt

Either there is a lack of PC's around with working full stops and commas or the 2 posts above are from the same person. It seems such a shame to have to do that on a comments page just to back up somebody. I'm sure the echo didn't come chasing for a story.

I have a 14 month old at nursery 2 days a week and the ratio I believe is 1:3, so if he was confidently climbing around where there is suitable safety equipment I think I would be happy that it was an accident, investigate it as is always needed and if no fault found then no compo needed. Pretty much every 2 weeks we get told about something my son has done going in the accident book. Bumps and bruises so far, but who knows what could happen next time. We trust the nursery he goes to and please don;t let this putting your child in nursery. My boy loves it and always comes home with a new trick or two.

Sorry the end paragraph should read don't let it put you off putting a child in nursery.

Just to confirm what I found on a quick search...Settlement monies: The courts do not allow children to receive their compensation until they are 18 and the court will therefore take steps to ensure the money is invested into a court approved interest earning account. The money will be released upon the child reaching 18 years of age.

motherhen4 wrote:
A 19 month old he should not of been 3 foot up in the air someone should of been holding his hand ,I think some of these comments are awful if she had been sat watching JK she would of been slated but she had paid someone to look after her son while at work and they failed I would if been fuming

She didn't pay someone to look after her son. I and other taxpayers did

MR D???? wrote:
You lot compianing saying its all about money when u no Jack the word used i need the money was NOT meaning i'm suin i need the money it ment i went bk to work as i need the money so i'm not on benifits and for another matter none of u were there when she got the call at work to say her son had a fall she had only been in her shift for an hr and left as soon as the call came in and was very upset about it and was in hospital with him for hrs so b4 u say kids will b kids and wont sue but i bet u if ur child got hurt on a bus fell at school fell down a hole an none of u would sue i find that unlikely as parents we would do anything for our kids the ppl we trust with our children have a responsibilty to look after them thats what we pay them to do if you caant say anyting positive dont say it

English please

Sare1987 wrote:
How on earth can u all say she is on it for money she is a single parent who got herself a job most people know how hard it is to get a job these days, she managed to get one if she was in it for money she wudnt ave even been lookin for work gettin all she could off the goverment, she put all her trust into the nursery who are there to LOOK after ur child while your at work when clearly they werent looking after ethan im disgusted what you all think shes doing this for,if you put ur trust in a nursery n it happened to ur child ur tellin me u wud sit back and let it lie clearly u dont love ur child if u did that!!!! Kim i admire u chick id of done exactly the same as u, and everyone knows if u did get any money for ethan the solicters wud make sure it went into a trust fund until he was older or they wudnt pay out x

Again English please and solicitors don't make sure any money goes in a trust fund

confuzzler wrote:
Sorry the end paragraph should read don't let it put you off putting a child in nursery.

Just to confirm what I found on a quick search...Settlement monies: The courts do not allow children to receive their compensation until they are 18 and the court will therefore take steps to ensure the money is invested into a court approved interest earning account. The money will be released upon the child reaching 18 years of age.

False

scorpio3 wrote:
Obviously this apparatus shouldnt be used by small children ,now this has happened ,it needs supervising, ( all the time ) to make sure this does not happen again,older children only to use it.The fact that women have to go to work to survive and have to leave their very small children with anybody is a sad state of our times.No one is going to care for your children as much as you .As for accidents happening ,thats what we pay staff for , to PREVENT accidents like this happening,forsight is a great thing...

Why is it 'sad women have to go to work to survive'?

Dont want to have to support your kid? Dont have them.

Kids have accidents.I bet this kid will have further accidents in life most probably while in the care of Mum.What happens then? Call Social Services for neglect?

I hope the Nursery is found to be NOT GUILTY of any negligience,not that it matters in the end.Liability Insurance would surely cover it.

"....breaks leg at nusery in Tuckton"

"...watchdog Of-sted has also been info-rmed and are investigating."

"....contacted Bour-nemouth Borough Coun-cil to complain."

"A spokesman for Bourn-emouth Borough Council...."

Just when you think it can't get any worse!

Written by another senior Echo staff 'reporter' just out of their first day at nursery school!

to all those who think your clever pointing incorrect spellings etc.....very pathetic!...get a life! to the idiot justsayithowitis....
....id like to tell just how it is but i'm afraid you'd be offended cause your obviously tiny brain is incapable of seeing things justhowitis!!!!!! there is a hell of a lot of people on these comments that should be in nursery themselves as they clearly haven't grown up!

to all those who think your clever pointing incorrect spellings etc.....very pathetic!...get a life! to the idiot justsayithowitis....
....id like to tell just how it is but i'm afraid you'd be offended cause your obviously tiny brain is incapable of seeing things justhowitis!!!!!! there is a hell of a lot of people on these comments that should be in nursery themselves as they clearly haven't grown up!

mummymuffin wrote:
to all those who think your clever pointing incorrect spellings etc.....very pathetic!...get a life! to the idiot justsayithowitis....

....id like to tell just how it is but i'm afraid you'd be offended cause your obviously tiny brain is incapable of seeing things justhowitis!!!!!! there is a hell of a lot of people on these comments that should be in nursery themselves as they clearly haven't grown up!

Its not incorrect spelling i was commenting on. A lot of what is on here is not english. Obviously you have nothing to say because you have said nothing except everyone else needs to grow up. Obviously on benefits yourself

justsayithowitis wrote:

mummymuffin wrote:
to all those who think your clever pointing incorrect spellings etc.....very pathetic!...get a life! to the idiot justsayithowitis....


....id like to tell just how it is but i'm afraid you'd be offended cause your obviously tiny brain is incapable of seeing things justhowitis!!!!!! there is a hell of a lot of people on these comments that should be in nursery themselves as they clearly haven't grown up!

Its not incorrect spelling i was commenting on. A lot of what is on here is not english. Obviously you have nothing to say because you have said nothing except everyone else needs to grow up. Obviously on benefits yourself

"Justsayithowitis" so just because mummymuffin has an opinion she's on benefits??? Who do you think you are to judge people you don't know???

Bournemouth4 wrote:

justsayithowitis wrote:

mummymuffin wrote:
to all those who think your clever pointing incorrect spellings etc.....very pathetic!...get a life! to the idiot justsayithowitis....



....id like to tell just how it is but i'm afraid you'd be offended cause your obviously tiny brain is incapable of seeing things justhowitis!!!!!! there is a hell of a lot of people on these comments that should be in nursery themselves as they clearly haven't grown up!

Its not incorrect spelling i was commenting on. A lot of what is on here is not english. Obviously you have nothing to say because you have said nothing except everyone else needs to grow up. Obviously on benefits yourself

"Justsayithowit
is" so just because mummymuffin has an opinion she's on benefits??? Who do you think you are to judge people you don't know???

She doesn't have an opinion. She said nothing except defending people who can't speak English on an English forum.

justsayithowitis wrote:

Bournemouth4 wrote:

justsayithowitis wrote:

mummymuffin wrote:
to all those who think your clever pointing incorrect spellings etc.....very pathetic!...get a life! to the idiot justsayithowitis....




....id like to tell just how it is but i'm afraid you'd be offended cause your obviously tiny brain is incapable of seeing things justhowitis!!!!!! there is a hell of a lot of people on these comments that should be in nursery themselves as they clearly haven't grown up!

Its not incorrect spelling i was commenting on. A lot of what is on here is not english. Obviously you have nothing to say because you have said nothing except everyone else needs to grow up. Obviously on benefits yourself

"Justsayithowit

is" so just because mummymuffin has an opinion she's on benefits??? Who do you think you are to judge people you don't know???

She doesn't have an opinion. She said nothing except defending people who can't speak English on an English forum.

So how does that mean that she's obviously on benefits then??

Bournemouth4 wrote:

justsayithowitis wrote:

Bournemouth4 wrote:

justsayithowitis wrote:

mummymuffin wrote:
to all those who think your clever pointing incorrect spellings etc.....very pathetic!...get a life! to the idiot justsayithowitis....





....id like to tell just how it is but i'm afraid you'd be offended cause your obviously tiny brain is incapable of seeing things justhowitis!!!!!! there is a hell of a lot of people on these comments that should be in nursery themselves as they clearly haven't grown up!

Its not incorrect spelling i was commenting on. A lot of what is on here is not english. Obviously you have nothing to say because you have said nothing except everyone else needs to grow up. Obviously on benefits yourself

"Justsayithowit


is" so just because mummymuffin has an opinion she's on benefits??? Who do you think you are to judge people you don't know???

She doesn't have an opinion. She said nothing except defending people who can't speak English on an English forum.

So how does that mean that she's obviously on benefits then??

Because she always defends anyone who is on benefits and slags off anyone who objects to paying for it

accident,no one to blame,no compo,just get on it being a mum
stop blaming other people

"Kim said she dropped Ethan at the nursery at 1pm on Monday."

Point of order...is this when the child was injured?

Case dismissed your honour

Yes accidents happen, but the fact is, an hour and a half after the accident his mother was then informed he had a bit of a fall, If it was your own child, that you were putting into someone else's care, and also paying them so you can go work, firstly that is not selfish nor greedy, it is the nursery's responsibility to look after every child and ensure their safety. fractures and breaks at a young age can cause problems later in life.

MR D???? wrote:
You lot compianing saying its all about money when u no Jack the word used i need the money was NOT meaning i'm suin i need the money it ment i went bk to work as i need the money so i'm not on benifits and for another matter none of u were there when she got the call at work to say her son had a fall she had only been in her shift for an hr and left as soon as the call came in and was very upset about it and was in hospital with him for hrs so b4 u say kids will b kids and wont sue but i bet u if ur child got hurt on a bus fell at school fell down a hole an none of u would sue i find that unlikely as parents we would do anything for our kids the ppl we trust with our children have a responsibilty to look after them thats what we pay them to do if you caant say anyting positive dont say it

Is it those GCSE standards again or do we need a translator to convert this into english?
Incredible!

I don't think it was an hour and a half after the accident. It was an hour and a half after he was dropped off at the nursery...

muscliffman wrote:

MR D???? wrote:
You lot compianing saying its all about money when u no Jack the word used i need the money was NOT meaning i'm suin i need the money it ment i went bk to work as i need the money so i'm not on benifits and for another matter none of u were there when she got the call at work to say her son had a fall she had only been in her shift for an hr and left as soon as the call came in and was very upset about it and was in hospital with him for hrs so b4 u say kids will b kids and wont sue but i bet u if ur child got hurt on a bus fell at school fell down a hole an none of u would sue i find that unlikely as parents we would do anything for our kids the ppl we trust with our children have a responsibilty to look after them thats what we pay them to do if you caant say anyting positive dont say it

Is it those GCSE standards again or do we need a translator to convert this into english?
Incredible!

Oh wow... no full stops!!

Sophie, actually it was 25min after he was dropped off at nursery that the accident happened and then the nursery took another 1 hour 20min to phone his mum. At the end of the day it's about the neglect of that child at the nursery.

Bournemouth4 wrote:
Sophie, actually it was 25min after he was dropped off at nursery that the accident happened and then the nursery took another 1 hour 20min to phone his mum. At the end of the day it's about the neglect of that child at the nursery.

Where does it say this in the article?? Even if it did say that in the article, perhaps the nursery were giving the benefit of the doubt to the situation, they are not medics and perhaps thought they would see how it went... They weren't to know the boy's leg was broken. I know that sounds bad, but sometimes children cry loads, especially in an unfamiliar place, if they get hurt even in the slightest, and if they had sat him down, tried to comfort him etc, he may not have got up for some time, and then when they saw he could not put weight on his leg, called mum... who knows... it does not say in the article, and Ofsted will investigate...

Bournemouth4 wrote:
Any compensation for a minor goes into trust for the child. I'm sure you guys would be angry if your child wasn't being supervised properly, yes accidents happen but this child was new at the nursery and the staff should have made sure one to one supervision was there until they knew his capabilities.

I quite agree. I would have been very angry indeed and I feel she is quite right to complain. He is 19 months old and still a toddler. He should have been supervised more closely baring in mind his first day at a new nursery. 3ft is a long way up for such a small fella.

missymo46 wrote:

Bournemouth4 wrote:
Any compensation for a minor goes into trust for the child. I'm sure you guys would be angry if your child wasn't being supervised properly, yes accidents happen but this child was new at the nursery and the staff should have made sure one to one supervision was there until they knew his capabilities.

I quite agree. I would have been very angry indeed and I feel she is quite right to complain. He is 19 months old and still a toddler. He should have been supervised more closely baring in mind his first day at a new nursery. 3ft is a long way up for such a small fella.

I'm pretty easy going when it comes to my two kids (6 & 3) playing on things. Once they're over two their reflexes and strength have developed enough to avoid any serious falls. However,19 months is still very young. At that age I wouldn't let either of them play on something 3ft high without being next to them. If they hit their head from a fall that high it could be fatal. Anyone with young kids will know there is a huge difference between 19 months and say 36 months in their ability to look after themselves and judge danger.

mike in florida wrote:
accident,no one to blame,no compo,just get on it being a mum
stop blaming other people

Indeed! What bugs me with this mother is that she made a life-style decision to have a child and to put it in a nursery at such a young age.

Congratulations to her, she has now affected the next generation who will either not have nurseries for their 'little johnies' or will have to charge such high fees that most will not be able to afford.

This mother made a contract with the nursery. You cannot divest responsibilty just because you contract someone for you. The mother remains responsible for her child and should have given due consideration on whether she was doing the right thing.

Now that 'little johnnie' has his 5 minutes of fame, he may be keen to do something similar in the future, and wait for his financial reward, instead of just dusting himself off and putting it down to experience.

Phixer wrote:

mike in florida wrote:
accident,no one to blame,no compo,just get on it being a mum
stop blaming other people

Indeed! What bugs me with this mother is that she made a life-style decision to have a child and to put it in a nursery at such a young age.

Congratulations to her, she has now affected the next generation who will either not have nurseries for their 'little johnies' or will have to charge such high fees that most will not be able to afford.

This mother made a contract with the nursery. You cannot divest responsibilty just because you contract someone for you. The mother remains responsible for her child and should have given due consideration on whether she was doing the right thing.

Now that 'little johnnie' has his 5 minutes of fame, he may be keen to do something similar in the future, and wait for his financial reward, instead of just dusting himself off and putting it down to experience.

Oh my god you have got to be kidding me!!!!!! This mother cannot win, you slate her for being on benefits, but she wanted to go out and work and provide extra income to support her son. Yet you slate again for putting her son into nursery!!!!! Once as you say 'little johnnie' is put under the care of childcare provider, it is their responsibility to keep them safe and secure. That's what you pay for!!! So you think he'll be keen on breaking his leg in the future for so called fame and financial award??? You guys make me sick!!!!

SophieRJ wrote:

Bournemouth4 wrote:
Sophie, actually it was 25min after he was dropped off at nursery that the accident happened and then the nursery took another 1 hour 20min to phone his mum. At the end of the day it's about the neglect of that child at the nursery.

Where does it say this in the article?? Even if it did say that in the article, perhaps the nursery were giving the benefit of the doubt to the situation, they are not medics and perhaps thought they would see how it went... They weren't to know the boy's leg was broken. I know that sounds bad, but sometimes children cry loads, especially in an unfamiliar place, if they get hurt even in the slightest, and if they had sat him down, tried to comfort him etc, he may not have got up for some time, and then when they saw he could not put weight on his leg, called mum... who knows... it does not say in the article, and Ofsted will investigate...

No Sophie it wouldn't say that in the arrival as it wouldn't give narrow minded people like you and others on here something to argue about would it??? Give them the benefit of the doubt to see how it went??? Are you being serious? Any other childcare provider/first aider would have given it 10-15min of the child crying in agony and rubbing his leg saying 'ow' and not putting weight on it before phoning his mum!!! (This was not in the echo, as again it would give you nothing to argue about would it). You people make me laugh. If this was your son, you would be mad as hell and going through the exact same thing!!

Bournemouth4 wrote:

SophieRJ wrote:

Bournemouth4 wrote:
Sophie, actually it was 25min after he was dropped off at nursery that the accident happened and then the nursery took another 1 hour 20min to phone his mum. At the end of the day it's about the neglect of that child at the nursery.

Where does it say this in the article?? Even if it did say that in the article, perhaps the nursery were giving the benefit of the doubt to the situation, they are not medics and perhaps thought they would see how it went... They weren't to know the boy's leg was broken. I know that sounds bad, but sometimes children cry loads, especially in an unfamiliar place, if they get hurt even in the slightest, and if they had sat him down, tried to comfort him etc, he may not have got up for some time, and then when they saw he could not put weight on his leg, called mum... who knows... it does not say in the article, and Ofsted will investigate...

No Sophie it wouldn't say that in the arrival as it wouldn't give narrow minded people like you and others on here something to argue about would it??? Give them the benefit of the doubt to see how it went??? Are you being serious? Any other childcare provider/first aider would have given it 10-15min of the child crying in agony and rubbing his leg saying 'ow' and not putting weight on it before phoning his mum!!! (This was not in the echo, as again it would give you nothing to argue about would it). You people make me laugh. If this was your son, you would be mad as hell and going through the exact same thing!!

Meant to say article not arrival, autocorrect on phone is on.

Bournemouth4 wrote:

Phixer wrote:

mike in florida wrote:
accident,no one to blame,no compo,just get on it being a mum
stop blaming other people

Indeed! What bugs me with this mother is that she made a life-style decision to have a child and to put it in a nursery at such a young age.

Congratulations to her, she has now affected the next generation who will either not have nurseries for their 'little johnies' or will have to charge such high fees that most will not be able to afford.

This mother made a contract with the nursery. You cannot divest responsibilty just because you contract someone for you. The mother remains responsible for her child and should have given due consideration on whether she was doing the right thing.

Now that 'little johnnie' has his 5 minutes of fame, he may be keen to do something similar in the future, and wait for his financial reward, instead of just dusting himself off and putting it down to experience.

Oh my god you have got to be kidding me!!!!!! This mother cannot win, you slate her for being on benefits, but she wanted to go out and work and provide extra income to support her son. Yet you slate again for putting her son into nursery!!!!! Once as you say 'little johnnie' is put under the care of childcare provider, it is their responsibility to keep them safe and secure. That's what you pay for!!! So you think he'll be keen on breaking his leg in the future for so called fame and financial award??? You guys make me sick!!!!

Hysterics and "little johnnies" (not how i used to spell it) first thing on a Sunday morning best avoided,so calm down as they say.As most parents,carers etc know accidents happen you dont expect them to occur in the home ,nursery or walking down the road but they happen thats life.Unfortunately the Echo have reported over the last few weeks non stories that basically feature bad luck events where people seem to whinge on about normal everyday happenings and expect to get financial compensation and to be honest its getting tedious,obviously no normal person wants to see harm to anyone else especially to a child but over reaction will probably do worse for the child than the accident.

Bournemouth4 wrote:

SophieRJ wrote:

Bournemouth4 wrote:
Sophie, actually it was 25min after he was dropped off at nursery that the accident happened and then the nursery took another 1 hour 20min to phone his mum. At the end of the day it's about the neglect of that child at the nursery.

Where does it say this in the article?? Even if it did say that in the article, perhaps the nursery were giving the benefit of the doubt to the situation, they are not medics and perhaps thought they would see how it went... They weren't to know the boy's leg was broken. I know that sounds bad, but sometimes children cry loads, especially in an unfamiliar place, if they get hurt even in the slightest, and if they had sat him down, tried to comfort him etc, he may not have got up for some time, and then when they saw he could not put weight on his leg, called mum... who knows... it does not say in the article, and Ofsted will investigate...

No Sophie it wouldn't say that in the arrival as it wouldn't give narrow minded people like you and others on here something to argue about would it??? Give them the benefit of the doubt to see how it went??? Are you being serious? Any other childcare provider/first aider would have given it 10-15min of the child crying in agony and rubbing his leg saying 'ow' and not putting weight on it before phoning his mum!!! (This was not in the echo, as again it would give you nothing to argue about would it). You people make me laugh. If this was your son, you would be mad as hell and going through the exact same thing!!

I think you have got it wrong... I was merely stating that:
All it says in the article is that he arrived at 1pm, mum was called at 2.40pm. It does not say he injured himself at 1.30, or 2pm. We do not know when he injured himself or how long the nursery waited, because IT DOES NOT SAY IN THE ARTICLE. That is not being narrow-minded, that is stating a FACT. Also, what is common practice in nurseries and schools is that if a child has a fall or is injured, and does not obviously require hospital attention, the staff observe and call mum if they think it is necessary. I once had a child cry uncontrollably on their first day at nursery because they cut themselves ever so slightly on scissors... for 2 hours... why? well, from experience I could tell it was because he was new, missing mum, and sad he had been hurt. He was not bleeding to death, and I told mum when she came to pick him up later. Standard practice. Standard practice when a child falls off equipment on to a soft landing? Well, if bones are sticking out, then obviously it is broken. It doesn't need an xray for that, or any degree of medical knowledge. It does not say in the article what staff did, but probably tried to sit him down, read a story, calm him down etc. All very common things to happen when a child is upset. I was merely saying if he was sat down they may not have noticed he couldn't put weight on his leg initially. Yes, in this case the boy unfortunately did break his leg, but he could have also cried for an hour afterwards because he missed mum and got hurt and had not broken his leg. It does not say how long staff waited to call mum, but they called her because they noticed he could not put weight on his leg. I am sure at this stage, the call would have been made quickly having assessed the situation. Childcare workers remain calm and assess the situation, not go calling mum every five minutes, because then all parents would be jibbering wrecks every time they dropped their kids off at nursery. I am not being cold, just stating a fact. I would be more angered had they not called. But then my sister went around with a broken arm for a week, because she showed no symptoms other than 'her arm hurt', she could move it, she wasn't crying uncontrollably. Mum felt guilty for not noticing, but these things happen. If it was my son, I would want answers, but if the nursery did all they could do, then what more can you ask?

Have you seen the price of fish now?

BIGTONE wrote:
Have you seen the price of fish now?

I know !! Leaves you speechless.....almos
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Bournemouth4 wrote:
Any compensation for a minor goes into trust for the child. I'm sure you guys would be angry if your child wasn't being supervised properly, yes accidents happen but this child was new at the nursery and the staff should have made sure one to one supervision was there until they knew his capabilities.

one to one supervision? That is just not possible, nursery will be out of business in a week! Accidents happen, is she saying she wants her child to sit and watch as the other children play? My little girl went to nursery from the age of 10 months and is now at school, along the way she had many a bump, as kids do. Get a grip woman and stop trying to get money from an accident

justsayithowitis wrote:

motherhen4 wrote:
A 19 month old he should not of been 3 foot up in the air someone should of been holding his hand ,I think some of these comments are awful if she had been sat watching JK she would of been slated but she had paid someone to look after her son while at work and they failed I would if been fuming

She didn't pay someone to look after her son. I and other taxpayers did

you could be wrong on this, depends if its a free nursery. We paid £40 a day to send our girl to nursery so she might have paid!

I was sorry to read that this boy had this accident at such an early time in his life, and all I can say is get well soon. I would also appeal to the mothers employer, to keep the job for her to get back to, as soon as it is possible for her to do so!.

MR D???? wrote:
You lot compianing saying its all about money when u no Jack the word used i need the money was NOT meaning i'm suin i need the money it ment i went bk to work as i need the money so i'm not on benifits and for another matter none of u were there when she got the call at work to say her son had a fall she had only been in her shift for an hr and left as soon as the call came in and was very upset about it and was in hospital with him for hrs so b4 u say kids will b kids and wont sue but i bet u if ur child got hurt on a bus fell at school fell down a hole an none of u would sue i find that unlikely as parents we would do anything for our kids the ppl we trust with our children have a responsibilty to look after them thats what we pay them to do if you caant say anyting positive dont say it

did not see anything positive in your comment, so going by your own words please do not comment!!!

muscliffman wrote:

MR D???? wrote:
You lot compianing saying its all about money when u no Jack the word used i need the money was NOT meaning i'm suin i need the money it ment i went bk to work as i need the money so i'm not on benifits and for another matter none of u were there when she got the call at work to say her son had a fall she had only been in her shift for an hr and left as soon as the call came in and was very upset about it and was in hospital with him for hrs so b4 u say kids will b kids and wont sue but i bet u if ur child got hurt on a bus fell at school fell down a hole an none of u would sue i find that unlikely as parents we would do anything for our kids the ppl we trust with our children have a responsibilty to look after them thats what we pay them to do if you caant say anyting positive dont say it

Is it those GCSE standards again or do we need a translator to convert this into english?
Incredible!

Not allowed to comment on lack of english in our english paper. You get abuse thrown at you.

tricky1007 wrote:

justsayithowitis wrote:

motherhen4 wrote:
A 19 month old he should not of been 3 foot up in the air someone should of been holding his hand ,I think some of these comments are awful if she had been sat watching JK she would of been slated but she had paid someone to look after her son while at work and they failed I would if been fuming

She didn't pay someone to look after her son. I and other taxpayers did

you could be wrong on this, depends if its a free nursery. We paid £40 a day to send our girl to nursery so she might have paid!

She is a single parent so will get all child care costs paid for by taxpayers.

I don't believe that Accident & Emergency confirmed that the poor little chap had a broken fibia and tibia! Why? Coz there ain't no such bone as a 'fibia'. It's tibia and FIBULA.

Sack that journalist!

i think you are all being very unfair, She has had to leave her job to care for her son who should have been safe in day care. She is loosing money by leaving a new job which would have left her short in the first place. If my son had fallen and broken his leg in 2 places I would want more than money I would want blood, accidents happen yes, a kid scrapes their knees and elbows, not break their legs in 2 places!! He's going to be in pain for weeks and she can no longer trust other people with his care! Stop judging!! and to you who's daughter fell off a log and broke her color bone, maybe you should have been watching her closer! Like the nursery should have been doing while he was playing on high play equipment!

As I have said before (on the silly woman suing the hospital as she chose to walk home) anyone persuing a compensation claim that approaches the press/media before any settlement has been agreed should automatically waive their right to any compensation.

The news/media should also not be making any comment till the case has been considered settled.

That said I wish this little boy a speedy recovery and can only hope that his mother can see this unfortuanate accident for what it is once the hype has settled.

Of course this is one of those parasitic ambulance-chasing legal firms that will have contacted Ms Griffiths to plant the prospect of suing for a pot of compo.
Dunno if it's me, perhaps I'm a bit slow on the uptake, but three years ago my son broke his wrist on a school skiing trip. Apart from my annoyance that he did it on the first day of the trip, I never thought once about reaching for a solicitor.

A lot read in the echo all the stories about compensation claiming,and think they will try it on.

I hope she claims so much she pushes several people out of work at the nursery, and the other kids end up with no where to go. Thank the lord that they didn't sue our school for broken limbs after sports, no one would have wanted to do the job.

Poor little sausage......get well soon kiddo.

Oh please, it's unfortunately that he fell badly and broke both bones in his leg, but its an accident. 3ft is not high and certainly not as high as some equipment in neighbourhood play parks.
Our son fell a smaller distance and broke both bones above his wrist, it wasn't the distance he fell but how he landed that broke his bones.
Sadly it was in our garden and I was the adult supervising him so it didn't make the local paper and I was unable to make a complaint to anyone........hang on a minute, we bought the seesaw from Argos so maybe I'll try making a complaint to them.
Hope the little man makes a quick recovery, but really don't think the nursery can be held accountable for an accident. The staff can't create a force field around the children in their care to prevent anything happening to them just like parents can't.

This little lad will recover, as most kids do that break a limb. And he will have learnt from the experience.
But he and his mum will probably face bigger challenges as they go through life, most of which won't offer the comfort blanket of "whom shall I blame?".
The resulting enquiry will doubtless conclude it was just one of those things. But the grotesque element is the huge amount of financial and people resources that will now go into the enquiries,the reports, the endless meetings, the consultants, etc.
Perhaps it's a reflection of this society's loss of values that a young child can't have a genuine accident anymore without the full force of the state instigating a Spanish Inquisition witch hunt for the guilty.

kingstonpaul wrote:
Of course this is one of those parasitic ambulance-chasing legal firms that will have contacted Ms Griffiths to plant the prospect of suing for a pot of compo.
Dunno if it's me, perhaps I'm a bit slow on the uptake, but three years ago my son broke his wrist on a school skiing trip. Apart from my annoyance that he did it on the first day of the trip, I never thought once about reaching for a solicitor.

Did you let your child play around on things a meter high without you next to him at 19 months?

I guess what needs to be established during the investigation is whether leaving the child unsupervised at that age and at that height was appropriate.

Bournemouth4 wrote:

justsayithowitis wrote:

mummymuffin wrote: to all those who think your clever pointing incorrect spellings etc.....very pathetic!...get a life! to the idiot justsayithowitis.... ....id like to tell just how it is but i'm afraid you'd be offended cause your obviously tiny brain is incapable of seeing things justhowitis!!!!!! there is a hell of a lot of people on these comments that should be in nursery themselves as they clearly haven't grown up!

Its not incorrect spelling i was commenting on. A lot of what is on here is not english. Obviously you have nothing to say because you have said nothing except everyone else needs to grow up. Obviously on benefits yourself

"Justsayithowit
is" so just because mummymuffin has an opinion she's on benefits??? Who do you think you are to judge people you don't know???

question for you justsayithowitis....
..how many kids do u have and how many hours do you or your parner ( if you have one ) work?? if im obviously on benefits how come my two kids never see their dad because he works 50+ a week!! i dont see my husband because he works and provides for me and our children and he does that so i can stay at home and bring our kids up!!! unfortunately kim is a single mum who is just wanting to do her best for her son! i think you need to shut your stupid mouth and stop slagging people off who you dont even know!

Finbarr Finkelstein wrote:
"Kim said she dropped Ethan at the nursery at 1pm on Monday." Point of order...is this when the child was injured? Case dismissed your honour

after 25 mins, they didnt contact her until 3.40pm

Such a non-story yet there seems to be a need to drag it down to an unacceptable level by telling someone to "shut their stupid mouth" lets hope you dont speak to your children like that for their sake, just a point.

mummymuffin wrote:

Finbarr Finkelstein wrote: "Kim said she dropped Ethan at the nursery at 1pm on Monday." Point of order...is this when the child was injured? Case dismissed your honour

after 25 mins, they didnt contact her until 3.40pm

sorry 2.40

retry69 wrote:
Such a non-story yet there seems to be a need to drag it down to an unacceptable level by telling someone to "shut their stupid mouth" lets hope you dont speak to your children like that for their sake, just a point.

yeah well read through all the stupid comments from that person, its stupid and pathetic, and yes i will say that to that person if he/she decides to say im obviously on benefits, plus im pregnant and hormones let me justsayithowitis :) and i would never dream of speaking like that to my kids, so dont even go there!

Mummy muppet,No one wants to see you rude comments on here, so please give it a rest,and act sensibly.

I was gutted I never got to go to school in a cast as a kid, it was a badge of honour. Everyone wanted to know how you got it and sign it, there may have even been a slight tendancy to exagerate but in my day it was only ever part of life, kids do stupid things and no matter how well supervised, they are masters of opertunity and often take it with negative results. On the plus side though I was never short of stitches and did quite well for scars :-)

mummymuffin wrote:

retry69 wrote:
Such a non-story yet there seems to be a need to drag it down to an unacceptable level by telling someone to "shut their stupid mouth" lets hope you dont speak to your children like that for their sake, just a point.

yeah well read through all the stupid comments from that person, its stupid and pathetic, and yes i will say that to that person if he/she decides to say im obviously on benefits, plus im pregnant and hormones let me justsayithowitis :) and i would never dream of speaking like that to my kids, so dont even go there!

No excuse for rudeness get therapy LOL

mummymuffin wrote:

Bournemouth4 wrote:

justsayithowitis wrote:

mummymuffin wrote: to all those who think your clever pointing incorrect spellings etc.....very pathetic!...get a life! to the idiot justsayithowitis.... ....id like to tell just how it is but i'm afraid you'd be offended cause your obviously tiny brain is incapable of seeing things justhowitis!!!!!! there is a hell of a lot of people on these comments that should be in nursery themselves as they clearly haven't grown up!

Its not incorrect spelling i was commenting on. A lot of what is on here is not english. Obviously you have nothing to say because you have said nothing except everyone else needs to grow up. Obviously on benefits yourself

"Justsayithowit

is" so just because mummymuffin has an opinion she's on benefits??? Who do you think you are to judge people you don't know???

question for you justsayithowitis....

..how many kids do u have and how many hours do you or your parner ( if you have one ) work?? if im obviously on benefits how come my two kids never see their dad because he works 50+ a week!! i dont see my husband because he works and provides for me and our children and he does that so i can stay at home and bring our kids up!!! unfortunately kim is a single mum who is just wanting to do her best for her son! i think you need to shut your stupid mouth and stop slagging people off who you dont even know!

I have 7 grown up children who all work and I work full time. Thanks for asking. My grandchildren are very lucky as they all have parents who love and want to spend time with them. So when one parent is working the other is looking after the children. This way they all go to work and spend time with the children they brought into this world. Makes more sense to me than having children who don't even know who you are. I haven't resorted to hurling abuse either

Of course, you could do what people used to do - STAY AT HOME AND LOOK AFTER YOUR OWN KIDS!!!