£25m marina for Poole Quay 'could be tourist attraction'

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A £25M marina could change the face of Poole Quay and be a tourist attraction in its own right.

A seaward extension to the Poole Quay Boat Haven has emerged as the preferred option of Poole Harbour Commissioners following an independent strategic environmental assessment.

Controversial proposals for a 900-berth marina in front of Hamworthy Park came off second best but with a further six weeks of consultation just beginning, are not yet dead in the water.

However the commissioners’ preferred options now include a Quay-based marine centre which could include berths for super-yachts and a venue for major events including tall ships festivals and superyacht events, a harbour walkway and new visitor attraction.

“Looking at all of these issues it clearly emerged that the environmental impact is greater with the Hamworthy option than the Poole Quay Boat Haven extension,” said chief executive Jim Stewart.

A year’s consultation which included more than 60 meetings with residents and groups also pointed in that direction.

“Yes, we want to go ahead with all of the different options relating to the port development and the Poole Quay Boat Haven extension is now our preferred option,” he said.

Design work has yet to be carried out, however the proposal includes a car park on the port with a water taxi taking owners to their boats.

While the commissioners will now be consulting on the second version of their Master Plan, they are not completely ruling out their first option of a marina at Hamworthy.

The newly-launched consultation extends to November 6 and will include presentations and meetings. The plan and assessment are available on phc.co.uk.

  • PLANS for a massive 950-berth marina, set 200 metres offshore from Hamworthy Park were revealed by harbour commissioners in February 2011 and almost immediately condemned by residents and park users, including windsurfers.

Despite PHC chairman Richard Lacey pledging that “not one blade of grass” of Hamworthy Park would be touched, residents were not placated.
The plan involved a new home for Poole Yacht Club, which also proved contentious.

In September 2011 an alternative to Hamworthy, an extension to the PHC-owned quay boat haven was put forward by commissioners. This is now the preferred option.

‘There was no virtue in Hamworthy option’

“I AM delighted they have picked the Poole Quay option,” said Bruce Grant-Braham, chairman of Poole Tourism Partnership, pictured far left, who said he had supported it all the way along.

He said: “There are statistics that every yachtie spends something like £70 per head in a visiting port per night and the potential advantage to Poole and Poole restaurants and shops are enormous.”

Windsurfer Mike Barnett, left, whose Drop A Piano on the Hamworthy marina petition attracted over 1,000 signatures said it was “brilliant” news.

“There is absolutely no virtue in the Hamworthy option,” he said.

“It always appeared to be a completely ridiculous choice because there are so many problems that would be likely to be caused by it.”

 

Comments(22)

jobsworthwatch says...
9:56am Thu 27 Sep 12

Wonder if BBC have noticed that our town is sandwiched between harbours that are absolutely rammed with pleasure craft. Have they also noticed that these craft venture out into Poole bay but the occupants can't come ashore at Bournemouth without getting their feet wet! Something similar in place of the pier could be quite a tourist attraction for Bournemouth too.

dogsoftheworld says...
10:05am Thu 27 Sep 12

This is most welcome, but I'm a little concerned about focus on superyachts. If we have this, lets make sure that it isn't locked off from the public, and that there is space reserved for smaller boats, local people and organisations like the Sea Cadets. how about an ex - RN training ship?

wonderway says...
10:05am Thu 27 Sep 12

jobsworthwatch wrote:
Wonder if BBC have noticed that our town is sandwiched between harbours that are absolutely rammed with pleasure craft. Have they also noticed that these craft venture out into Poole bay but the occupants can't come ashore at Bournemouth without getting their feet wet! Something similar in place of the pier could be quite a tourist attraction for Bournemouth too.
easy way is dig out lower gardens remove pier approach and turn lower gardens into a marina

thevisitor says...
1:36pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Tourist attractions are great and beneficial to the local economy if they are marketed and advertised fully and correctly. Sadly in Poole this is not the case. So many events do not see great attendances due to Poole tourism failing in what they should be doing. They are more interested in picking up booking fees for tickets and hotels rather than boosting the local businesses, particularly on the Quay. The marina would be great and I would urge other parties to get involved in the marketing of our attractions before the town dies completely.

bornINpoole69 says...
3:10pm Thu 27 Sep 12

This is excellent news for Poole. I fully support Jim Stewart and the Harbour commissioners. The inclusion of a cruise terminal for smaller ships is excellent and it will bring good revenue to Poole quay and surrounding areas

Morrigan says...
3:41pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Perhaps PHC have come to their senses regarding the proposed marina at Hamworthy Park?

Poole Quay is the perfect place for a marina - not least of all because the water is deeper there than at Ham Park, so it will save an enormous amount of damage to the sea bed from dredging to make it deeper at Hamworthy.

I'm not sure that bringing yacht's to Poole will necessarily bring in more money to the town in general though ..... there would have to be something worth stepping ashore for in my opinion and sadly Poole lacks quality family entertainment, not to mention it's loss of character and charm over the years .....

Reader Echo says...
4:12pm Thu 27 Sep 12

I fail to see the appeal of a marina that will stretch halfway across the water to Brownsea Island.

Coupled with the natural view being lost and the stupid water taxi idea it just seems like vandalism to the environment and commercial money making greed to me.

As a local person I very much hope that it will not happen as Poole is rapidly being destroyed by incompetent idiots.

hamuser says...
8:10pm Thu 27 Sep 12

18 months ago A huge Marina/Marine centre and cruise berth at Hamworthy was the only option being pursued by PHC and it came close to formal agreements being signed with Poole Yacht Club whose premises were needed to enable access to the extensive harbour infill beyond PYC's existing premises. Drop a Piano was formed to fight that proposal. This latest news is not a victory but the EIA has now confirmed everything we have said about the proposal from the start. The environmental impact is too high......that includes the impact on a wide range of stakeholders as well as the harbour itself. The EIA should now be made public so we all can see the negative impact that was recorded across all the factors.

oh curly girl says...
11:49pm Thu 27 Sep 12

I cannot see how having this monstrosity would ' bring good revenue to Poole Quay & surrounding areas ' !!! Nobody except those who are opposed to it can see the damage it will do. ' A Marina was put in a similar area up North, the shores became quagmires & a little sailing club got into almost fatal circumstances after some of their boats had to be rescued. PHC say they want their ' Well heeled Guests ' ( Yes this was said ) not to get their feet wet......??? Sorry to go on but the whole plan MUST be scrapped....If this is to be done to bring revenue in...then look at the amount of tourists who already come into Poole & Hamworthy. I am proud of Hamworthy & am not scared of calling it Hamworthy & not a ' Surrounding Area ' as some call it........x

Yankee1 says...
12:01am Fri 28 Sep 12

I know megayacht marinas in Fort Lauderdale and Monaco....what will megayacht owners get when then leave their per diem slip and venture into Poole? A host of charity shops and second rate chain restaurants?

b26b says...
6:24am Fri 28 Sep 12

How is a Marina a tourist attraction? Why do I want reminders of greed and excess in the form of wood, plastic and glass rammed down my throat?

pete woodley says...
9:09am Fri 28 Sep 12

Lets seal off the quay,and put signs up stating "boat owners only".Reader Echo is right,the views for the locals and visitors would be spoilt.No way do the boat lot spend a lot of money in local shops.

bornINpoole69 says...
10:01am Fri 28 Sep 12

pete woodley wrote:
Lets seal off the quay,and put signs up stating "boat owners only".Reader Echo is right,the views for the locals and visitors would be spoilt.No way do the boat lot spend a lot of money in local shops.
Morning Pete - I do not agree. Tesco express are doing very well and so are the pubs and restaurants on the quay. If the "improved quality" visitor wants
" improved quality" restaurants etc then they can jump in a taxi - more revenue for the area! They might even go to Bournemouth!
Have a good day.

Finbarr Finkelstein says...
11:53am Fri 28 Sep 12

b26b wrote:
How is a Marina a tourist attraction? Why do I want reminders of greed and excess in the form of wood, plastic and glass rammed down my throat?
Touch of the green eyed monster my friend?

pete woodley says...
9:53pm Fri 28 Sep 12

bornINpoole69 wrote:
pete woodley wrote:
Lets seal off the quay,and put signs up stating "boat owners only".Reader Echo is right,the views for the locals and visitors would be spoilt.No way do the boat lot spend a lot of money in local shops.
Morning Pete - I do not agree. Tesco express are doing very well and so are the pubs and restaurants on the quay. If the "improved quality" visitor wants
" improved quality" restaurants etc then they can jump in a taxi - more revenue for the area! They might even go to Bournemouth!
Have a good day.
Nice to hear from someone born in Poole like me.

jobsworthwatch says...
5:48am Sat 29 Sep 12

wonderway wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote: Wonder if BBC have noticed that our town is sandwiched between harbours that are absolutely rammed with pleasure craft. Have they also noticed that these craft venture out into Poole bay but the occupants can't come ashore at Bournemouth without getting their feet wet! Something similar in place of the pier could be quite a tourist attraction for Bournemouth too.
easy way is dig out lower gardens remove pier approach and turn lower gardens into a marina
Put that idea forward over a year ago, it was suggested at the time by another contributor that perhaps more than just the lower gardens should be flooded. Ideally the area to be flooded should take in the Town Hall too!

live-and-let-live says...
12:15pm Sat 29 Sep 12

a marina is no more of a tourist attraction than a car park is.

BIGTONE says...
12:29pm Sat 29 Sep 12

£25m marina for Poole Quay 'could be tourist attraction'


"Could be"

Then again!

Jak Branksome says...
2:28am Mon 1 Oct 12

20 years ago i moored my yacht at west quay...there was then an acute shortage of marina berths..Tho I live at branksome...(gas works end...not woods) i did spend money in the local old high street shops...ma dibbens etc before tesco and sainsbury...also used the old town restaurants and got **** in the jolly and the other pubs..why do people get so worked up about marinas?
I propose demolishing drake court and the other council properties...move the tenants to creek more and build quality housing on the site....still Poole is a working port and you get all the "all night" noise associated with it. No one with any influence reads these rants anyway....prove it to me if they do.

whodathawtit says...
1:47pm Tue 2 Oct 12

If this option is the best can we trust PHC to do a good job? Experiences so far would suggest not, the existing marinas lack good facilities and are not viewed by the boaters as good. Do we need a large company like MDL to assist after all they are one of the largest marina chains in the country and have the practical experience required to deliver a sound project, after all PHC may lack the total investment needed as they only made an operating profit last year of 600,000 falling ferry revenues need to. Be replaced will cruise ships help, all the people on these ships just look at the tourist bits they don't eat out as it is free on the cruise liner. Boating is getting harder costs are rising will it be full? We don't want a marina for the chosen few super yacht as a maritime port it should be for the masses.

pete woodley says...
9:57pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Jak Branksome wrote:
20 years ago i moored my yacht at west quay...there was then an acute shortage of marina berths..Tho I live at branksome...(gas works end...not woods) i did spend money in the local old high street shops...ma dibbens etc before tesco and sainsbury...also used the old town restaurants and got **** in the jolly and the other pubs..why do people get so worked up about marinas?
I propose demolishing drake court and the other council properties...move the tenants to creek more and build quality housing on the site....still Poole is a working port and you get all the "all night" noise associated with it. No one with any influence reads these rants anyway....prove it to me if they do.
I was born and bred in branksome,right by gas works,and i cant remember any local having a yacht,you must have been a new boy.Not a real local.

pooleboater says...
11:48am Thu 4 Oct 12

whodathawtit wrote:
If this option is the best can we trust PHC to do a good job? Experiences so far would suggest not, the existing marinas lack good facilities and are not viewed by the boaters as good. Do we need a large company like MDL to assist after all they are one of the largest marina chains in the country and have the practical experience required to deliver a sound project, after all PHC may lack the total investment needed as they only made an operating profit last year of 600,000 falling ferry revenues need to. Be replaced will cruise ships help, all the people on these ships just look at the tourist bits they don't eat out as it is free on the cruise liner. Boating is getting harder costs are rising will it be full? We don't want a marina for the chosen few super yacht as a maritime port it should be for the masses.
PHC's marinas offer some of the best facilities for visiting yachts in the Harbour. The marinas have recently been awarded with the '5 Gold Anchor Award' from 'The Yacht Harbour Association (TYHA)' The award is very simmilar to the star ratings for hotels. Both of PHC's marinas were awarded their anchors in January this year and considering one of them had only been open for less than a year, that's pretty good going. There are only a select few marinas in the world that hold this award. I am sure that Jim Stewart and his marina Manager and his staff will do a good job at forming the marina when the time comes, remembering of course that the plans are only in the second consultation stage and still have a long way to go before anything is confirmed.

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