"Please keep students out of our road" (From Thisisdorset)
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Residents' last ditch bid to keep out students
5:00pm Friday 21st September 2012 in Latest
"Please keep students out of our road"
RESIDENTS are preparing to make a last-ditch plea to councillors to keep restrictive conditions on a contentious development of student bedrooms.
The block of around 40 study bedrooms in Malmesbury Park Road was originally granted planning permission on the proviso the rooms could only be occupied by foreign students from the Kings School of English.
This restriction went some way to easing residents’ concerns that the development of small bedrooms with shared facilities would either become a “doss house” or an unwieldy university student block. But members of the town’s planning board are now being recommended to remove the reference to foreign students from Kings School of English, meaning it could accommodate students of any kind.
The planning report, which will be considered on Monday, states: “Student accommodation falls within the same use class regardless of the nationality of the students occupying the development.
“The council must consider whether it can reasonably distinguish between the occupation of the site by foreign and non-foreign students.”
But Queens Park councillor Carol Ainge said the distinction meant a great deal to residents: “If this is granted there will be repercussions for local residents for years to come,” she said.
“We never wanted this development in the first place but we were assured that it would only be used by students from one particular language school, who didn’t need very much living space or communal facilities but who simply needed somewhere to study.
“Having 40-odd university students in the middle of a residential area is a very different prospect. The developers knew these conditions were in place when they started work, it’s not fair to argue about it now when the development is almost finished.”
The application has been made by Malmesbury Estates, who are represented by Ken Parke planning consultants. Mr Parke has previously said that the removal of the conditions is “purely academic” and would not change the nature of the proposals.
Comments(31)
Bournefre
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5:14pm Fri 21 Sep 12
nonnisrevenge
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5:24pm Fri 21 Sep 12
BournemouthMum
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5:49pm Fri 21 Sep 12
willytee
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5:57pm Fri 21 Sep 12
malky53
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6:13pm Fri 21 Sep 12
Equally I doubt if a council could stipulate over 55 only
Mike Pickering
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6:19pm Fri 21 Sep 12
As has become true in the last few years, students are primarily consumers of education products for which they pay dearly - many of them will also be members of the workforce, and all blends in between. The protest is asinine in the extreme - outraged that people living just up the road of them won't be foreign or consumers of education courses - what absolute tosh, bugger off and do something useful with your time.
Jesus.
spooki
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6:40pm Fri 21 Sep 12
PokesdownMark
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6:46pm Fri 21 Sep 12
Imagine "keep students out of our road" but with a different group name instead of the word students. Distasteful.
fifty shades of brown envelopes
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6:52pm Fri 21 Sep 12
aerolover
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7:08pm Fri 21 Sep 12
High Treason
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7:18pm Fri 21 Sep 12
aerolover wrote:Exactly. Once the usual students move in it becomes noisy, scruffy and run down. Look around the area, easy to spot student lets by the dirty windows, overgrown gardens, unswept drives etc.
All the people who say it should go ahead have never lived in a road full of Uni students causing problems in the night and not allowing residents the right to a good nights sleep before they go to work. I say to you try it for a week or so then say let it go ahead Nimby YES we don't want any more yobish behaviour. The landlord wouldn't live with it so why should we?
manyogie
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7:38pm Fri 21 Sep 12
aerolover wrote:spot on, Poole has changed for the worse since the Uni blocks came to town, just look at the new grounds out front of the swimming pool in the mornings, plus the noise factor and the habit of walking 4+ abreast.
All the people who say it should go ahead have never lived in a road full of Uni students causing problems in the night and not allowing residents the right to a good nights sleep before they go to work. I say to you try it for a week or so then say let it go ahead Nimby YES we don't want any more yobish behaviour. The landlord wouldn't live with it so why should we?
Sorry Bournemouth Uni, but a good percentage of your live in pupils dont give a **** for their environment.
Oldcastle
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8:06pm Fri 21 Sep 12
Talkingheadera
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9:04pm Fri 21 Sep 12
Oldcastle wrote:Exactly!
Since when do people have a say as to who moves in to their street? Perhaps these whingers should move into a private gated community where there are rules relating to new residents.
And how long has the Uni been there and the student areas.?
30 plus years.
Get a life and move if you don't wish to be in this area.
Nobody can choose their neighbours.
Huey
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9:27pm Fri 21 Sep 12
peopleareidiots
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9:51pm Fri 21 Sep 12
ol'bag lady
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10:07pm Fri 21 Sep 12
Talkingheadera wrote:What about the RESIDENTS who have lived here a lot longer than 30years?
Oldcastle wrote:Exactly!
Since when do people have a say as to who moves in to their street? Perhaps these whingers should move into a private gated community where there are rules relating to new residents.
And how long has the Uni been there and the student areas.?
30 plus years.
Get a life and move if you don't wish to be in this area.
Nobody can choose their neighbours.
YOU move and live here for a week then YOU would GET A LIFE and move alright. We do want to be in this area but to able to live in peace as we are entitled to and as you probably have the luxury and experience of enjoying - where ever you are.
Huey
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10:35pm Fri 21 Sep 12
ol'bag lady wrote:Will numbers of students fall now it is something like £8-9,000pa to study?
Talkingheadera wrote:What about the RESIDENTS who have lived here a lot longer than 30years?
Oldcastle wrote:Exactly!
Since when do people have a say as to who moves in to their street? Perhaps these whingers should move into a private gated community where there are rules relating to new residents.
And how long has the Uni been there and the student areas.?
30 plus years.
Get a life and move if you don't wish to be in this area.
Nobody can choose their neighbours.
YOU move and live here for a week then YOU would GET A LIFE and move alright. We do want to be in this area but to able to live in peace as we are entitled to and as you probably have the luxury and experience of enjoying - where ever you are.
Mike Pickering
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11:01pm Fri 21 Sep 12
What about their right to live somewhere free of busy-body protests ?
Why not simply have a large yellow "S" painted on the doors of people who happen to attend the college you decide, as to aid in their vilification ?
Then, maybe in retribution for the actions of other people who attend that, or another, college, there could be one night when the students get their windows smashed. We could call it, I don't know - "StudentinNacht".
High Treason
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7:13am Sat 22 Sep 12
Mike Pickering wrote:You certainly post some rubbish.
Students ARE residents.
What about their right to live somewhere free of busy-body protests ?
Why not simply have a large yellow "S" painted on the doors of people who happen to attend the college you decide, as to aid in their vilification ?
Then, maybe in retribution for the actions of other people who attend that, or another, college, there could be one night when the students get their windows smashed. We could call it, I don't know - "StudentinNacht".
brightspark4
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7:32am Sat 22 Sep 12
Talkingheadera
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7:53am Sat 22 Sep 12
brightspark4 wrote:Totally agree. Even if a few residents , and it will be only a few have lived there longer than 30 years, what's the big deal about mOving a mile or two away?
He has a point though - intolerance is wrong. Dealing with each incident rather than tarring everyone with the same brush is better - the latter is called prejudice and bigotry..and can lead to extremist thinking.
If I had noisy neighbours I'd move.
Maybe if people confronted problems in the right polite manner they'd solve the problem. Ranting and raving doesn't help.
ol'bag lady
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8:12am Sat 22 Sep 12
Talkingheadera wrote:Why should I - after many years - have the upheaval of moving and all that goes with it - and a mile or two would not solve it. I do "confront the problems in the right polite manner" but they just don't want to understand - no more than you do. You obviously have not had the experience otherwise your view - looking from the outside in - would be totally different.
brightspark4 wrote:Totally agree. Even if a few residents , and it will be only a few have lived there longer than 30 years, what's the big deal about mOving a mile or two away?
He has a point though - intolerance is wrong. Dealing with each incident rather than tarring everyone with the same brush is better - the latter is called prejudice and bigotry..and can lead to extremist thinking.
If I had noisy neighbours I'd move.
Maybe if people confronted problems in the right polite manner they'd solve the problem. Ranting and raving doesn't help.
aerolover
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8:26am Sat 22 Sep 12
brightspark4
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10:33am Sat 22 Sep 12
ol'bag lady wrote:I do have the experience - I live behind the university! We are all a product of our upbringing, age and class - and yours is showing in your attitude towards others.
Talkingheadera wrote:Why should I - after many years - have the upheaval of moving and all that goes with it - and a mile or two would not solve it. I do "confront the problems in the right polite manner" but they just don't want to understand - no more than you do. You obviously have not had the experience otherwise your view - looking from the outside in - would be totally different.
brightspark4 wrote:Totally agree. Even if a few residents , and it will be only a few have lived there longer than 30 years, what's the big deal about mOving a mile or two away?
He has a point though - intolerance is wrong. Dealing with each incident rather than tarring everyone with the same brush is better - the latter is called prejudice and bigotry..and can lead to extremist thinking.
If I had noisy neighbours I'd move.
Maybe if people confronted problems in the right polite manner they'd solve the problem. Ranting and raving doesn't help.
ol'bag lady
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11:43am Sat 22 Sep 12
brightspark4 wrote:Exactly, you live behind the University which is not where the students live and play. Not every body is a product of their upbringing but mine taught me to behave in a better manner and be considerate to others. I agree age has something to do with because I do not wish to be kept awake at all hours and have to live with the knock- on effect it brings. I am not against the younger generation - far from it - but some need to behave better. They are the products of their upbringing but do they act the same at home I wonder? Perhaps they need educating while still young into how to act when living away from home.
ol'bag lady wrote:I do have the experience - I live behind the university! We are all a product of our upbringing, age and class - and yours is showing in your attitude towards others.
Talkingheadera wrote:Why should I - after many years - have the upheaval of moving and all that goes with it - and a mile or two would not solve it. I do "confront the problems in the right polite manner" but they just don't want to understand - no more than you do. You obviously have not had the experience otherwise your view - looking from the outside in - would be totally different.
brightspark4 wrote:Totally agree. Even if a few residents , and it will be only a few have lived there longer than 30 years, what's the big deal about mOving a mile or two away?
He has a point though - intolerance is wrong. Dealing with each incident rather than tarring everyone with the same brush is better - the latter is called prejudice and bigotry..and can lead to extremist thinking.
If I had noisy neighbours I'd move.
Maybe if people confronted problems in the right polite manner they'd solve the problem. Ranting and raving doesn't help.
Class does not come into it although it would seem you think you are a cut above the rest of us.
brightspark4
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3:00pm Sat 22 Sep 12
ol'bag lady
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3:56pm Sat 22 Sep 12
brightspark4 wrote:Thank you -I totally agree.
There is a student village housing all the first years. I feel there are complainers who will not like babies crying dogs barking or a rowdy element of some students - I agree it can be a nuisance but reporting the worst and tolerating the others is necessary - everyone has to live somewhere - and the suggestion you move is a tad unreasonable, I agree. Why can't we just live and let live and deal with the worst offenders?
jeebuscripes
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5:46pm Sun 23 Sep 12
If the students break the law or become a nuisance phone the police.
kingstonpaul
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1:23pm Tue 25 Sep 12
MandinVerwood says...
5:12pm Fri 21 Sep 12