Manhunt: armed robbers escape with cash after attacking security van guards (From Thisisdorset)

Presumably the cash was in a security container, so will become covered in dye, and therefore useless, if the thieves attempt to open the case?......
I would have thought that making that kind of information more well known might help to deter this kind of theft?
Of course, if those procedures were not being followed, and the cash was unprotected?.....
Oh well, higher mortgage and lower savings rates for Nationwide customers it is then.....

It is bizarre that all the cash van robberies in the area recently have been delivering to Nationwide. I know they caught the arse that did the last ones and hopefully this one too.

this is the same story that was reported yesterday.
wonder how long the echo can drag this one out.......

Arjay wrote:
Presumably the cash was in a security container, so will become covered in dye, and therefore useless, if the thieves attempt to open the case?...... I would have thought that making that kind of information more well known might help to deter this kind of theft? Of course, if those procedures were not being followed, and the cash was unprotected?..... Oh well, higher mortgage and lower savings rates for Nationwide customers it is then.....

So what if the money is dyed, self service payment machines are now in all supermarkets, buy some chewing gum for 50p, pay with a dyed £20 note, and get £19.50 change - in undyed cash.

robsmith123 wrote:
this is the same story that was reported yesterday.
wonder how long the echo can drag this one out.......

But this is BIG NEWS and will run for weeks and weeks, perhaps with a link to the reef / council / wind turbines / AFCB real soon

rudolph_hucker wrote:

Arjay wrote:
Presumably the cash was in a security container, so will become covered in dye, and therefore useless, if the thieves attempt to open the case?...... I would have thought that making that kind of information more well known might help to deter this kind of theft? Of course, if those procedures were not being followed, and the cash was unprotected?..... Oh well, higher mortgage and lower savings rates for Nationwide customers it is then.....

So what if the money is dyed, self service payment machines are now in all supermarkets, buy some chewing gum for 50p, pay with a dyed £20 note, and get £19.50 change - in undyed cash.

Genius! O wait..

Ever heard of a cameras? The money will be counted at end of the day and it would take 2 seconds to find the culprit on store cctv.

jamiegiles wrote:

rudolph_hucker wrote:

Arjay wrote: Presumably the cash was in a security container, so will become covered in dye, and therefore useless, if the thieves attempt to open the case?...... I would have thought that making that kind of information more well known might help to deter this kind of theft? Of course, if those procedures were not being followed, and the cash was unprotected?..... Oh well, higher mortgage and lower savings rates for Nationwide customers it is then.....

So what if the money is dyed, self service payment machines are now in all supermarkets, buy some chewing gum for 50p, pay with a dyed £20 note, and get £19.50 change - in undyed cash.

Genius! O wait.. Ever heard of a cameras? The money will be counted at end of the day and it would take 2 seconds to find the culprit on store cctv.

Ever heard of a hood? Or a baseball cap? Sunglasses?
Or in your mind is anyone caught on CCTV instantly identified?

rudolph_hucker wrote:

Arjay wrote:
Presumably the cash was in a security container, so will become covered in dye, and therefore useless, if the thieves attempt to open the case?...... I would have thought that making that kind of information more well known might help to deter this kind of theft? Of course, if those procedures were not being followed, and the cash was unprotected?..... Oh well, higher mortgage and lower savings rates for Nationwide customers it is then.....

So what if the money is dyed, self service payment machines are now in all supermarkets, buy some chewing gum for 50p, pay with a dyed £20 note, and get £19.50 change - in undyed cash.

So self service payment machines can't recognise and reject bank notes covered in a dark purple dye then?
I must get my crayons out and 'draw' some £20 notes on scraps of paper. From what you say, they should work OK in self service machines.....

Arthur Maureen wrote:

robsmith123 wrote:
this is the same story that was reported yesterday.
wonder how long the echo can drag this one out.......

But this is BIG NEWS and will run for weeks and weeks, perhaps with a link to the reef / council / wind turbines / AFCB real soon

umm I would have thought an armed robbery was quite big news.

Big news in Dorset everyday occurance in London, guess Dorset Police were too busy yo have their breakies interupted for an armed robbery

Arjay wrote:

rudolph_hucker wrote:

Arjay wrote:
Presumably the cash was in a security container, so will become covered in dye, and therefore useless, if the thieves attempt to open the case?...... I would have thought that making that kind of information more well known might help to deter this kind of theft? Of course, if those procedures were not being followed, and the cash was unprotected?..... Oh well, higher mortgage and lower savings rates for Nationwide customers it is then.....

So what if the money is dyed, self service payment machines are now in all supermarkets, buy some chewing gum for 50p, pay with a dyed £20 note, and get £19.50 change - in undyed cash.

So self service payment machines can't recognise and reject bank notes covered in a dark purple dye then?
I must get my crayons out and 'draw' some £20 notes on scraps of paper. From what you say, they should work OK in self service machines.....

the machines recogise magnetic strip
can your crayon replicate that?

FROM
http://www.atmprotec
tion.com
/services/atmprotect
ion/

Rising losses confirm that dye is ineffective as a deterrent. Here’s why:
Banknotes are packed together so tightly that ink dye does not penetrate each note. The stolen cash then becomes available to fund further crimes or maintain a criminal lifestyle; an instant reward.
Dyed banknotes are accepted by note-changing machines and cash-in-hand labour, as well as in betting shops, casinos, airport currency machines and many personal cash transactions - in other words, money laundering to legitimize the stolen cash
So.. any response Arjay?

seems like crime is much worse in Bournemouth than it has ever been. as for the dye if you freeze everything i believe the money can be extracted safely and if not im sure criminals have come up with a way to get the money.

Now can we find out if anyone saw anything ?.

Huey wrote:
FROM
http://www.atmprotec

tion.com
/services/atmprotect

ion/

Rising losses confirm that dye is ineffective as a deterrent. Here’s why:
Banknotes are packed together so tightly that ink dye does not penetrate each note. The stolen cash then becomes available to fund further crimes or maintain a criminal lifestyle; an instant reward.
Dyed banknotes are accepted by note-changing machines and cash-in-hand labour, as well as in betting shops, casinos, airport currency machines and many personal cash transactions - in other words, money laundering to legitimize the stolen cash
So.. any response Arjay?

Well, only the obvious one (which I also mentioned yesterday) ....
It's all a bit pathetic that, some 40 years after the concept of electronic money transfer became a reality, we are still 'faffing about' with pieces of paper, and metal discs, to transfer money from one person, or business, to another.
No wonder the crooks laugh at us....we just make it so easy for them to rip us off....
I suppose you have to admire the sales skill of those who managed to sell the idea of protecting money with an indelible dye... especially, as you have now expertly confirmed, it doesn't work.
I wonder if the security firms will be demanding compensation from these scam artists?....

cherries189 wrote:
seems like crime is much worse in Bournemouth than it has ever been. as for the dye if you freeze everything i believe the money can be extracted safely and if not im sure criminals have come up with a way to get the money.

....this wasn't in Bournemouth!

im sorry i when i say crime has increased i meant in Bournemouth, Poole and pretty much everywhere in dorset

just think back to the early 90's. Dorset had so much less crime and was a much safer place. murder rate was much less than present time as was violence. I know crime has increased everywhere but it seems to have become much worse quickly in our area

rudolph_hucker wrote:

Arjay wrote:
Presumably the cash was in a security container, so will become covered in dye, and therefore useless, if the thieves attempt to open the case?...... I would have thought that making that kind of information more well known might help to deter this kind of theft? Of course, if those procedures were not being followed, and the cash was unprotected?..... Oh well, higher mortgage and lower savings rates for Nationwide customers it is then.....

So what if the money is dyed, self service payment machines are now in all supermarkets, buy some chewing gum for 50p, pay with a dyed £20 note, and get £19.50 change - in undyed cash.

Thanks for the tip - now, can you also recommend a way to get this bl00dy dye off my hands??? :-)