Teacher sexually abused pupils (From Thisisdorset)

Disgusting perv. When I was at school (years ago) I had a teacher who used to touch me inappropriately and at the tender age of 14 I was quite flattered by his attention. Now I am older and wiser I realise what an absolute scumbag this man was to take advantage of his position. I hope this guy is jailed - though I doubt he will be.

As there was no case brought on the charge of sexual cativity with a child, how old were these girls in question?

I presume those posting above calling him a paedophile know more than is written in the report?

BackOfTheNet did you read the bit 'pleaded guilty to 10 sex assault charges'??
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Sex assaults on school children are committed by paedophiles.

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
BackOfTheNet did you read the bit 'pleaded guilty to 10 sex assault charges'?? . Sex assaults on school children are committed by paedophiles.

Not if the girls are aged 16 or over. Not defending him for one minute but you cant class him as a that...

He pleaded 'Not Guilty' to sexually activity with a child and that charge has been dropped so the other offences must have been to over 16's.

Pervert with abuse of position - yes, Paedophile -no.

At the time of the offences he was 28 to 33. The pupils are a captive audience and in my book he is a pervert who used his position to take advantage.

BournemouthMum wrote:
Disgusting perv. When I was at school (years ago) I had a teacher who used to touch me inappropriately and at the tender age of 14 I was quite flattered by his attention. Now I am older and wiser I realise what an absolute scumbag this man was to take advantage of his position. I hope this guy is jailed - though I doubt he will be.

It's not too late to report the teacher who abused you, assuming he is still alive. If he is, you should. Doesn't matter how long ago it was, he should be made to pay for his disgusting abuse of his position and for taking advantage of you.

One has to also question the morality of this guy’s wife and family.

Especially the wife. It was stated that she knew about all the offences before any of the ‘victims’ came forward and that they had been married for more than two years!’

So she knew him well as well as fully accepting his ‘cheating’, especially with very young girls, some seemingly under age. What kind of person does that make her, not to mention his so supporting family?

I do hope that they do not have any children of their own, especially girls.

To my mind, not only should Gutteridge (apt name), be sent down but so should his wife who has admitted she knew it was all going on, yet never said anything to protect further young children from his illegal sexual behaviour. I think they legally call that ‘aiding and abetting’.

This topic also relates to a debate we are having in another thread about paedophiles, mostly concerning the myth of it all. In my much younger days when my mother warned me about ‘funny men’ or even ‘dirty old men’, I had an image in my head of some bedraggled, unshaven, tramp-like, beer smelling, ugly monster in a long dirty grey mackintosh. I mean who in their right mind would trust anybody like that no matter what age they were?

Yet, as can be seen here with the picture of Adam Gutteridge, Huntley before him and even the guy I mentioned in that other thread, that turned out to be a sex-offender, they all appear on the surface to be clean-cut trustworthy people that most of us would so easily warm to. That is all part of their divisive ploy that gets them into these most trusted positions and they are in no hurry to prepare it all, as long as they finally reach their desired aim.

I think that we, especially parents and grandparents, need to move the goalposts a lot more and not just judge a book by its cover. The experts who deal with these people after they have been caught, must know a lot more than they are telling us. Like what are the warning signs?

In the case that I referred to in the other thread, I mentioned a young man who married a single mother with young children, just to get at her children and her sisters children. I must admit, I did wonder about it all in the beginning because the guy was so slim, neat, good looking and the woman wasn’t any of that. I kept thinking, ‘What does he see in her?’

Now I know but I surely did not cotton on to that at the time. I mean, who would?

Somebody, the experts, need to write a hand-book to warn us all.

chrspeters wrote:
One has to also question the morality of this guy’s wife and family.

Especially the wife. It was stated that she knew about all the offences before any of the ‘victims’ came forward and that they had been married for more than two years!’

So she knew him well as well as fully accepting his ‘cheating’, especially with very young girls, some seemingly under age. What kind of person does that make her, not to mention his so supporting family?

I do hope that they do not have any children of their own, especially girls.

To my mind, not only should Gutteridge (apt name), be sent down but so should his wife who has admitted she knew it was all going on, yet never said anything to protect further young children from his illegal sexual behaviour. I think they legally call that ‘aiding and abetting’.

This topic also relates to a debate we are having in another thread about paedophiles, mostly concerning the myth of it all. In my much younger days when my mother warned me about ‘funny men’ or even ‘dirty old men’, I had an image in my head of some bedraggled, unshaven, tramp-like, beer smelling, ugly monster in a long dirty grey mackintosh. I mean who in their right mind would trust anybody like that no matter what age they were?

Yet, as can be seen here with the picture of Adam Gutteridge, Huntley before him and even the guy I mentioned in that other thread, that turned out to be a sex-offender, they all appear on the surface to be clean-cut trustworthy people that most of us would so easily warm to. That is all part of their divisive ploy that gets them into these most trusted positions and they are in no hurry to prepare it all, as long as they finally reach their desired aim.

I think that we, especially parents and grandparents, need to move the goalposts a lot more and not just judge a book by its cover. The experts who deal with these people after they have been caught, must know a lot more than they are telling us. Like what are the warning signs?

In the case that I referred to in the other thread, I mentioned a young man who married a single mother with young children, just to get at her children and her sisters children. I must admit, I did wonder about it all in the beginning because the guy was so slim, neat, good looking and the woman wasn’t any of that. I kept thinking, ‘What does he see in her?’

Now I know but I surely did not cotton on to that at the time. I mean, who would?

Somebody, the experts, need to write a hand-book to warn us all.

"What kind of person does that make her (his wife)"...

Desperate and deluded I'd say.

The teacher I referred to in my post (above) was popular, good looking, charismatic etc. etc.and this makes it easy for these types to carry out their abuse.

I hope the guy is jailed but I very much doubt he will be.

A CRB check is only effective after an offence has been commited ......anyone else think this system is flawed?

BournemouthMum wrote:
Disgusting perv. When I was at school (years ago) I had a teacher who used to touch me inappropriately and at the tender age of 14 I was quite flattered by his attention. Now I am older and wiser I realise what an absolute scumbag this man was to take advantage of his position. I hope this guy is jailed - though I doubt he will be.

Hampshire police let you report historic abuse as it often takes years for people to make reports. I don't know if dorset do but if you do make a complaint you may be one of enough that they've had over the years for them to do something about him. Even if he's not teaching anymore, he might well be volunteering with young people and they do tend to get worse over the years.

Just because one charge of sexual activity with a child was dropped doesn't mean he wasn't found guilty of other charges of the same nature. You can be charged with the same piece of legislation multiple times and each must be proved on it's own merit. Until all the charges are presented by the undereporting Echo in full, you can't assume jack from this presentation of the "facts".

ashleycross wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:
Disgusting perv. When I was at school (years ago) I had a teacher who used to touch me inappropriately and at the tender age of 14 I was quite flattered by his attention. Now I am older and wiser I realise what an absolute scumbag this man was to take advantage of his position. I hope this guy is jailed - though I doubt he will be.

Hampshire police let you report historic abuse as it often takes years for people to make reports. I don't know if dorset do but if you do make a complaint you may be one of enough that they've had over the years for them to do something about him. Even if he's not teaching anymore, he might well be volunteering with young people and they do tend to get worse over the years.

You can indeed report historic sexual abuse to Dorset Police.

BournemouthMum.... please report the teacher who abused you. He could have been doing the same to countless other girls who may also come forward if you're brave enough to make a stand and testify against him. Filth like that deserve to be dealt with severely but only you can make it happen.

BournemouthMum wrote:
Disgusting perv. When I was at school (years ago) I had a teacher who used to touch me inappropriately and at the tender age of 14 I was quite flattered by his attention. Now I am older and wiser I realise what an absolute scumbag this man was to take advantage of his position. I hope this guy is jailed - though I doubt he will be.

He won't last long inside.. Someone will do him.

I joined the school in 2001. it really goes to show how you don't really know people. You would never of thought it.. he was my maths teacher...i can honestly say i'm glad i was not a target. it's a big shock. I guess you just really don't know people, you cant trust anyone these days, CRB check or not.... an employee can be great until something goes wrong in the mind.... it's shocking

i also joined the school in 2001. And by year 12 there were lots of rumours going round about him, around the time he left.He was also my maths teacher, he seemed ok, but there was lots of talk about what had been happening etc. I think its disgusting.Im so glad he got found out and it was proven

I'm sorry but you cannot compare this man to Ian Huntley who murdered two 10 year old girls! He had relations with three 16/17 year old girls, yes it was abusing his position but calling it sexual abuse/ sexual assault is misleading. He was a 'goodlooking' teacher and girls did swoon over him and it was a case of trying to bag the older man with authority. It is hard when girls try to dress and act older than their years.

It really baffles me how people have so much to say when they have just read something in the paper and don't actually know this person or the full story. You are all so quick to judge someone you don’t know but when something happens to someone you know and they get bad press would you all just turn your back on this person and call him a paedophile or Ian Huntley’s double?! I doubt it!!!

I know what he has done is wrong and I am sure he does as well. But if this case was really as awful as what they are making it out to be in the papers he would have been put in prison. Mr Gutteridge is not a bad person, just a person that has made a few mistakes.

Hcliffe88 wrote:
I'm sorry but you cannot compare this man to Ian Huntley who murdered two 10 year old girls! He had relations with three 16/17 year old girls, yes it was abusing his position but calling it sexual abuse/ sexual assault is misleading. He was a 'goodlooking' teacher and girls did swoon over him and it was a case of trying to bag the older man with authority. It is hard when girls try to dress and act older than their years.

I was in his tutor group from 2002-2005. From what I remember Mr G (as he was affectionately known) acted younger than his age and was very popular (one particularly memorable maths lesson included breasts, legs and thighs, referring to chicken parts) even playing in a band with some of the 6th formers (something about "I love her because she makes me hot breakfast") so I can understand why some girls may have fancied him a bit. But as I understand it, he was persuing girls, not just the other way around, and even if girls were "trying to dress and act older than their years" he should have known better. If nothing else, the fact that he knew these girls from the age of 11/12 is disturbing, as from what I've heard one of the girls was in the year below me at the school, meaning that she'd known him since she was in year 7. I work with children only a year or two younger than that so that makes me feel pretty sick.
Also his wife sounds totally amazing. What a truly fantastic specimen of the human race.

smile89 – If you really read the Echo report, what the defendant’s wife said in relation to ‘offences’, added that ‘Judge Wiggs warned Gutteridge that he could be handed a substantial prison term when he is sentenced at Bournemouth Crown Court on September 21’.

Being ordered to live and sleep at his home in Earlsfield Road, London, and is subject to an electronic curfew between 10pm and 7am, as well as is also subject to the restrictions of the Sex Offenders Register. Plus what former pupils of his school knew and said of him here in our own replies – don’t you think that something seriously wrong is going on here and he is not as ‘innocent’ as you paint him to be?

I was only comparing Gutteridge and Huntley (plus other cases I and others wrote about), with their demure or ‘personality’ as one person put it. There are many comparisons there. As to the crimes committed only ‘murder’ separates them, they all still have some kind of strange sexual interest in children. Even Ian Brady did.

It is also true that over the past years, when child murders have been committed and they catch the person, it is often revealed that they have a past paedophile history, but for some strange reason are soon let out of jail to offend again, which has often led towards a road to a final horrendous murder. Huntley may not have had any previous but only because he never got caught before.

In this case, hopefully they caught him early, but what happens afterwards is what parents fear most. These types are so clever, cunning and determined, they can soon come out of short-stay prison and disappear under the radar so easily. I mean how many illegal immigrants do we have in our country with false identities?

I support voluntary clinical castration for all paedophile offenders, or never let them out of jail. I fully accept that they have a real underlining brain-sexual problem, but they lack the morals of what they do to young children, and we should put an innocent child long-way before them. Some it disgusts me to say, even offend young babies or toddlers!

Paedophilia to my mind, is the most heinous crime. I would even report my own son if I knew he was doing that.

"As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia, or paedophilia, is defined as a psychiatric disorder in persons who are 16 years of age or older typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally age 13 years or younger, though onset of puberty varies)" - Wikipedia

I think the term Paedophile is being thrown around a little too loosely.

smile89 wrote:
"As a medical diagnosis, pedophilia, or paedophilia, is defined as a psychiatric disorder in persons who are 16 years of age or older typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children (generally age 13 years or younger, though onset of puberty varies)" - Wikipedia

I think the term Paedophile is being thrown around a little too loosely.

OK, "hebephilia" then. Is that better? Either way this man is a disgusting pervert and will get what's coming to him, either through (hopefully) being jailed or finding that it will be impossible to earn an income because no one will - quite rightly - employ him once they become aware of his record. How anyone can support this creature's actions is beyond me - and most other people I would hope.

When its time for him to come out of gaol
I would like to get a petition going to keep him in for another ten years,
thats worth doing.

smile89 – I don’t care how you or Wikipedia choose to ‘tag’ it. It’s types like you who come up with all this BS that often allow an offender to soon go free and commit the same heinous crime again.

All I know is that these so warped individuals leave behind a trail a young damaged lives just for their own selfish gratification.

I don’t need a ‘label’ to clearly define them!

Next you will be arguing the case for rapists or those who commit sexual offences on their own children. Putting them also into different categories, defined by Wikipedia to suggest they aint such bad people either!

As said above, these people are so clever and divisive, they will just create another identity when they are released from prison, so hoping it will ruin their future lives will not occur. They are out to ruin other people’s lives and surely not their own.

I gave my solution above – clinical castration or keep them locked up is the best way to protect our children in the future.

Other than that, I would be happy to sign EDDIE GROVES petition.

I am so surprised by your attitude smile89, and you appear to be on your own here, it makes me begin to wonder.,

Do you have a close connection with Adam Gutteridge as me doth think you protect him so much?

Keep going and my suspicions might extend even wider!

I consider myself to be a most moderate and up-to-date person with no strong religious background. I fully accept ‘Gays’, ‘Bi-sexual’ and ‘Transgender’ believing that they cannot be ‘cured’ as that is the way they were born – the way God intended and that they should go on living their own lives without fear of any prejudice. It’s the same deal for people born black, yellow or otherwise.

Nobody can help what they are or how they are born as they had no choice.

I also believe that most people will today agree with me on this.

I also feel the same for Paedophiles. There but for the Grace of God go I. I believe that their condition is real. I mean who in their right mind would choose to be a paedophile?

Yet to me, paedophiles do not fall into that same slot. If a ‘Gay’ was to strongly impose their ways onto a heterosexual person, then that to me would be an offence. But they don’t. They stick to their own, meaning ‘consenting adults’. And they are happy with their existence and rightly so.

Yet a paedophile, is not dealing with ‘consenting adults’, but young innocent children (male or female), often naïve and not really knowing what sex is all about.

It’s just a one-way deal!

If I had of been born of a nature as ‘Gay’ or ‘Transgender’, then I would hope that I would be brave enough to fulfil that cross that was given to me at birth, be open about it and not live a lie but at the same time, live a most respectful life to all others around me. Many now do that now that the law is at last on their side.

A paedophile. There is no way any law or acceptance from the people will ever justify them. As said, it’s just a one-way deal and leaves many damaged innocent and unknowing young victims.

Morality surely must come into it.

I now put myself in their shoes. If I soon knew that I had a sexual interest in young children, had rapist tendencies or even sexual feelings for my own kith and kin, then I would be soon dragging my backside up to the doctors to help prevent it. Even to the point of clinical castration because first I would not want to harm anybody else and second I would not want to live that life dominated by my unlawful sexual desires. I would forgo complete sexual activity to prevent that and instead just be a good citizen. I mean sex is not really everything that we live for.

Because of that, I do not give any credence or sympathy to a paedophile that wishes to continue, whatsoever.

I hate them all for what they do!

I also believe that most people will today agree with me on this.
I DONT
I mean sex is not really everything that we live for.
YOU NEED TO JOIN THE SAME DATING AGENCY AS ME YOU WILL SOON CHANGE YOUR MIND.