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Cat killer: were five pets targeted by same poisoner?
9:00am Saturday 4th August 2012 in Latest By Juliette Astrup
FEARS: Allens Road in Hamworthy where cats have died
A heartless cat killer is believed to be targeting pets after five suspected poisonings in the same road.
The RSPCA has had recorded two confirmed poisonings with antifreeze – one cat died in April another on Tuesday this week after vets struggled to save it for two days.
Owners and the local RSPCA inspector Graham Hammond believe as many as three further animals may have died in the same way, also in Allens Road, Hamworthy.
Inspector Hammond told the Echo: “There were reports of several cats being killed by ingesting antifreeze in the same road in April.
“It is a worrying development that we have another case in the same area.
He added: “These cats suffer enormously through this and eventually their organs fail – it’s a horrendous way to go.”
He said he felt it was a “deliberate attempt to poison cats,” adding: “There just seems too many to be coincidental,” but didn’t rule out the possibility of accidental poisoning.
“It may well be that the cats are drinking it accidentally, such as from a fountain or water feature dosed with antifreeze to prevent the water from freezing but members of the public should take care in storing and using antifreeze.
“I would also urge neighbours and communities to join together and keep an eye out for any suspicious activity.
“If anyone is aware of any deliberate cruelty to animals they can report it to our cruelty line on 0300 123 4999.
“If anyone has any information about this specific incident they should call our inspector appeal line on 0300 123 8018.
“Perpetrators should be aware that deliberate poisoning using antifreeze could mean for example a £20,000 fine and/or six months in prison under the Animal Welfare Act.”
Comments(123)
Morrigan
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10:27am Sat 4 Aug 12
Prob not, but I hate to think some cruel ba$tard is doing it deliberately :o(
beachcomber1
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11:18am Sat 4 Aug 12
catsarewow
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11:28am Sat 4 Aug 12
Cherry19
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11:40am Sat 4 Aug 12
robsmith123
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11:46am Sat 4 Aug 12
spooki
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11:54am Sat 4 Aug 12
robsmith123 wrote:Oh dear
can we find out who is doing this so we can congratulate them.
mysticalshoelace
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12:23pm Sat 4 Aug 12
Everyone in that road should go and check their driveways, parking spaces, sheds, gardens etc or perhaps the RSPCA should do a door to door.
Morrigan
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12:37pm Sat 4 Aug 12
elite50 wrote:Cats do not have the capacity to behave "sadistically" you buffoon!
beachcomber1 wrote:Anti-cat rants?
if you read some of the anti-cat rants on here (hello elite50) you won't be surprised if it is deliberate.
I LIKE cats, they are however, sadistic killers.
I just point out the obvious.
If you own a cat and let it run free it WILL kill all of the local wild-life that it can.
Now it seems that a local "sadistic killer" is getting what they consider justice.
What goes around comes around?
I do not condone sadism in any form be it cats or people!
Cats react as nature has programmed them to do - they have no concept of sadism - they merely hunt - not always to eat I admit, but it is the constant practise which hones their hunting skills. No more, no less.
They don't go around thinking "I know, I'll just pop out for an hour to murder anything that moves" :o//
You are a fool who is putting human behavioural traits and thoughts into an animal - they simply do not have the mental ability to think like that!
Hahaha! you are a joke - or a troll who posts for a reaction - either way a sad little person who cannot see the difference between humans and animals mental abilities.
beachcomber1
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12:47pm Sat 4 Aug 12
elite50 wrote:QED
beachcomber1 wrote:Anti-cat rants?
if you read some of the anti-cat rants on here (hello elite50) you won't be surprised if it is deliberate.
I LIKE cats, they are however, sadistic killers.
I just point out the obvious.
If you own a cat and let it run free it WILL kill all of the local wild-life that it can.
Now it seems that a local "sadistic killer" is getting what they consider justice.
What goes around comes around?
I do not condone sadism in any form be it cats or people!
Pablo23
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12:58pm Sat 4 Aug 12
Morrigan wrote:As much as I don't want to take sides with elite50 (no offense), he is right in that cats are prolific killers and enjoy playing with and torturing their prey while its still alive.
elite50 wrote:Cats do not have the capacity to behave "sadistically" you buffoon!
beachcomber1 wrote:Anti-cat rants?
if you read some of the anti-cat rants on here (hello elite50) you won't be surprised if it is deliberate.
I LIKE cats, they are however, sadistic killers.
I just point out the obvious.
If you own a cat and let it run free it WILL kill all of the local wild-life that it can.
Now it seems that a local "sadistic killer" is getting what they consider justice.
What goes around comes around?
I do not condone sadism in any form be it cats or people!
Cats react as nature has programmed them to do - they have no concept of sadism - they merely hunt - not always to eat I admit, but it is the constant practise which hones their hunting skills. No more, no less.
They don't go around thinking "I know, I'll just pop out for an hour to murder anything that moves" :o//
You are a fool who is putting human behavioural traits and thoughts into an animal - they simply do not have the mental ability to think like that!
Hahaha! you are a joke - or a troll who posts for a reaction - either way a sad little person who cannot see the difference between humans and animals mental abilities.
I speak as someone who used to have a cat and was often greated with maimed birds and mice struggling around the kitchen in the morning.
However, it is indeed natures way, and we as humans have the ability to be compassionate to other living things.
Even if we do unbalance nature with our actions and cause too many cats to be about.
H2o-hara
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1:03pm Sat 4 Aug 12
Morrigan wrote:Cats also enjoy sitting under cars . Could be a clue.
Could it be one of the car servicing garages with a regular habit of spilling chemicals?
Prob not, but I hate to think some cruel ba$tard is doing it deliberately :o(
Pablo23
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1:28pm Sat 4 Aug 12
elite50
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1:38pm Sat 4 Aug 12
Morrigan wrote:Morrigan.
elite50 wrote:Cats do not have the capacity to behave "sadistically" you buffoon! Cats react as nature has programmed them to do - they have no concept of sadism - they merely hunt - not always to eat I admit, but it is the constant practise which hones their hunting skills. No more, no less. They don't go around thinking "I know, I'll just pop out for an hour to murder anything that moves" :o// You are a fool who is putting human behavioural traits and thoughts into an animal - they simply do not have the mental ability to think like that! Hahaha! you are a joke - or a troll who posts for a reaction - either way a sad little person who cannot see the difference between humans and animals mental abilities.beachcomber1 wrote: if you read some of the anti-cat rants on here (hello elite50) you won't be surprised if it is deliberate.Anti-cat rants? I LIKE cats, they are however, sadistic killers. I just point out the obvious. If you own a cat and let it run free it WILL kill all of the local wild-life that it can. Now it seems that a local "sadistic killer" is getting what they consider justice. What goes around comes around? I do not condone sadism in any form be it cats or people!
You must be from Ireland.
Me too, so I forgive you.
Buffoon?
Fool?
Joke?
Troll?
The idea is to think like a human, not a cat.
If a cat (or anything else) acts outside acceptable behaviour that is wrong!
You know, your parents tried (and failed, obviously) to teach you about what is right and what is wrong.
If you want to swap insults that is o.k.
you will lose (but then again you should be used to that).
Go cuddle your multiple cats, they will purr and then let them out and they will kill anything that moves.
You should be grateful that they are not big enough to kill you.
I suggest that you dont show them your brain however, if you do all bets are off!
stevobath
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1:51pm Sat 4 Aug 12
elite50 wrote:'Acceptable behaviour'? Theyre animals that cant be trained like a dog.Acceptable to who? YOU? I dont think poisoning an animal is acceptable behaviour.I hope the culprit gets their just rewards.Personally Id favour some street justice if I knew who it was & it was my cat that died in agony.How about making them drink some anti freeze?
Morrigan wrote:Morrigan.
elite50 wrote:Cats do not have the capacity to behave "sadistically" you buffoon! Cats react as nature has programmed them to do - they have no concept of sadism - they merely hunt - not always to eat I admit, but it is the constant practise which hones their hunting skills. No more, no less. They don't go around thinking "I know, I'll just pop out for an hour to murder anything that moves" :o// You are a fool who is putting human behavioural traits and thoughts into an animal - they simply do not have the mental ability to think like that! Hahaha! you are a joke - or a troll who posts for a reaction - either way a sad little person who cannot see the difference between humans and animals mental abilities.beachcomber1 wrote: if you read some of the anti-cat rants on here (hello elite50) you won't be surprised if it is deliberate.Anti-cat rants? I LIKE cats, they are however, sadistic killers. I just point out the obvious. If you own a cat and let it run free it WILL kill all of the local wild-life that it can. Now it seems that a local "sadistic killer" is getting what they consider justice. What goes around comes around? I do not condone sadism in any form be it cats or people!
You must be from Ireland.
Me too, so I forgive you.
Buffoon?
Fool?
Joke?
Troll?
The idea is to think like a human, not a cat.
If a cat (or anything else) acts outside acceptable behaviour that is wrong!
You know, your parents tried (and failed, obviously) to teach you about what is right and what is wrong.
If you want to swap insults that is o.k.
you will lose (but then again you should be used to that).
Go cuddle your multiple cats, they will purr and then let them out and they will kill anything that moves.
You should be grateful that they are not big enough to kill you.
I suggest that you dont show them your brain however, if you do all bets are off!
anonEmouse
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1:59pm Sat 4 Aug 12
retry69
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2:04pm Sat 4 Aug 12
Pablo23
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2:26pm Sat 4 Aug 12
anonEmouse wrote:Agreed.
What a horrible way to die, I cannot abide animal cruelty, but cats are a dammed nuisance, I am forever throwing water over them as they wait to pounce on birds that are feeding. It seems like all the neighborhood cats congregate in my garden. It scares them off but the dam things keep coming back. I just wish cat owners would put a big bell on their collars.
It would be concidered bad if I was to drop my dog over into next doors garden to have his way with their property, but its is somehow seen as aocially acceptable for their cat to come into mine and terrorise the wildlife I like to encourage.
Not to mention the stinky little surpises it leaves for me when I dig the garden.
Again, if I was to drop my dogs faeces over the fence I'm sure they would concider me odd and provocative, but it doesn't appear to go the other way.
I certainly don't advocate harming cats, but a bell arouund the neck is a good idea.
I saw a bag of lion droppings in a shop the other day. Apparently that disuades cats from entering your garden
elite50
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2:37pm Sat 4 Aug 12
stevobath wrote:What is acceptable in an area in which we live is to ACCEPT responsibility!
elite50 wrote:'Acceptable behaviour'? Theyre animals that cant be trained like a dog.Acceptable to who? YOU? I dont think poisoning an animal is acceptable behaviour.I hope the culprit gets their just rewards.Personally Id favour some street justice if I knew who it was & it was my cat that died in agony.How about making them drink some anti freeze?Morrigan wrote:Morrigan. You must be from Ireland. Me too, so I forgive you. Buffoon? Fool? Joke? Troll? The idea is to think like a human, not a cat. If a cat (or anything else) acts outside acceptable behaviour that is wrong! You know, your parents tried (and failed, obviously) to teach you about what is right and what is wrong. If you want to swap insults that is o.k. you will lose (but then again you should be used to that). Go cuddle your multiple cats, they will purr and then let them out and they will kill anything that moves. You should be grateful that they are not big enough to kill you. I suggest that you dont show them your brain however, if you do all bets are off!elite50 wrote:Cats do not have the capacity to behave "sadistically" you buffoon! Cats react as nature has programmed them to do - they have no concept of sadism - they merely hunt - not always to eat I admit, but it is the constant practise which hones their hunting skills. No more, no less. They don't go around thinking "I know, I'll just pop out for an hour to murder anything that moves" :o// You are a fool who is putting human behavioural traits and thoughts into an animal - they simply do not have the mental ability to think like that! Hahaha! you are a joke - or a troll who posts for a reaction - either way a sad little person who cannot see the difference between humans and animals mental abilities.beachcomber1 wrote: if you read some of the anti-cat rants on here (hello elite50) you won't be surprised if it is deliberate.Anti-cat rants? I LIKE cats, they are however, sadistic killers. I just point out the obvious. If you own a cat and let it run free it WILL kill all of the local wild-life that it can. Now it seems that a local "sadistic killer" is getting what they consider justice. What goes around comes around? I do not condone sadism in any form be it cats or people!
If you OWN a cat, dog, cow ,pig, chicken or whatever then YOU are responsible for its actions!
People in England seem to think that just because they like cats, dogs etc. that anything that these creatures do should be o.k. with the population at large.
That is NOT the case.
These SELFISH people should control their pets if they wish to own them.
Obviously someone in Hamworthy has taken this to a new level.
If he/she is caught then they will have the book thrown at them.
What about all the rest of the people who have to suffer the results of these unrestrained pets. Maybe a bit of "street justice" is called for, or is that being a bit "one eyed"?
Morrigan
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2:40pm Sat 4 Aug 12
elite50 wrote:How can a cat act outside "acceptable behaviour"? They have no concept of what is acceptable and what is not and since you fail to understand I will say it again - yes they kill plenty of small mammals and birds but they do not know it is unacceptable to humans - and they certainly cannot physically think like humans as you propose!
Morrigan wrote:Morrigan.
elite50 wrote:Cats do not have the capacity to behave "sadistically" you buffoon! Cats react as nature has programmed them to do - they have no concept of sadism - they merely hunt - not always to eat I admit, but it is the constant practise which hones their hunting skills. No more, no less. They don't go around thinking "I know, I'll just pop out for an hour to murder anything that moves" :o// You are a fool who is putting human behavioural traits and thoughts into an animal - they simply do not have the mental ability to think like that! Hahaha! you are a joke - or a troll who posts for a reaction - either way a sad little person who cannot see the difference between humans and animals mental abilities.beachcomber1 wrote: if you read some of the anti-cat rants on here (hello elite50) you won't be surprised if it is deliberate.Anti-cat rants? I LIKE cats, they are however, sadistic killers. I just point out the obvious. If you own a cat and let it run free it WILL kill all of the local wild-life that it can. Now it seems that a local "sadistic killer" is getting what they consider justice. What goes around comes around? I do not condone sadism in any form be it cats or people!
You must be from Ireland.
Me too, so I forgive you.
Buffoon?
Fool?
Joke?
Troll?
The idea is to think like a human, not a cat.
If a cat (or anything else) acts outside acceptable behaviour that is wrong!
You know, your parents tried (and failed, obviously) to teach you about what is right and what is wrong.
If you want to swap insults that is o.k.
you will lose (but then again you should be used to that).
Go cuddle your multiple cats, they will purr and then let them out and they will kill anything that moves.
You should be grateful that they are not big enough to kill you.
I suggest that you dont show them your brain however, if you do all bets are off!
They act within their genetic nature and do not do it just to annoy humans or any other creature - they do it because that is the way they are genetically programmed :o//
/ out of this conversation since arguing with fools will only bring me down to their level - and you can sure beat me with your experience ;o)
LordLilliput
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2:42pm Sat 4 Aug 12
elite50 wrote:Elite50, you really are a buffoon you know. And an ignorant, patronising one at that too.
Morrigan wrote:Morrigan.
elite50 wrote:Cats do not have the capacity to behave "sadistically" you buffoon! Cats react as nature has programmed them to do - they have no concept of sadism - they merely hunt - not always to eat I admit, but it is the constant practise which hones their hunting skills. No more, no less. They don't go around thinking "I know, I'll just pop out for an hour to murder anything that moves" :o// You are a fool who is putting human behavioural traits and thoughts into an animal - they simply do not have the mental ability to think like that! Hahaha! you are a joke - or a troll who posts for a reaction - either way a sad little person who cannot see the difference between humans and animals mental abilities.beachcomber1 wrote: if you read some of the anti-cat rants on here (hello elite50) you won't be surprised if it is deliberate.Anti-cat rants? I LIKE cats, they are however, sadistic killers. I just point out the obvious. If you own a cat and let it run free it WILL kill all of the local wild-life that it can. Now it seems that a local "sadistic killer" is getting what they consider justice. What goes around comes around? I do not condone sadism in any form be it cats or people!
You must be from Ireland.
Me too, so I forgive you.
Buffoon?
Fool?
Joke?
Troll?
The idea is to think like a human, not a cat.
If a cat (or anything else) acts outside acceptable behaviour that is wrong!
You know, your parents tried (and failed, obviously) to teach you about what is right and what is wrong.
If you want to swap insults that is o.k.
you will lose (but then again you should be used to that).
Go cuddle your multiple cats, they will purr and then let them out and they will kill anything that moves.
You should be grateful that they are not big enough to kill you.
I suggest that you dont show them your brain however, if you do all bets are off!
Animals simply do not have the intellect to be 'sadistic'. If you fully understood the meaning of sadism you would realise that. You may deem the animal to be acting sadistically by human standards but the animal itself is not. You are making the fundamental error of interpreting an animals behaviour through the eyes of a human.
As for your comments 'you will lose (you're probably used to that)' / 'you're parents failed' and 'go cuddle your cats' I'm afraid to say you, like it or not, do sound rather sad.
And before your ego gets the better of you, I am not attempting to be insulting nor do I have any desire to swap insults with you. But to make an flawed judgement and then defend it through personal abuse shows a distinct lack of character, integrity and respect.
elite50
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2:45pm Sat 4 Aug 12
All the little old ladies (who still have a twinkle in their eye), could leave them all their money!
Free at last, Free at last, etc...........
elite50
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2:50pm Sat 4 Aug 12
LordLilliput wrote:You still dont get it.
elite50 wrote:Elite50, you really are a buffoon you know. And an ignorant, patronising one at that too. Animals simply do not have the intellect to be 'sadistic'. If you fully understood the meaning of sadism you would realise that. You may deem the animal to be acting sadistically by human standards but the animal itself is not. You are making the fundamental error of interpreting an animals behaviour through the eyes of a human. As for your comments 'you will lose (you're probably used to that)' / 'you're parents failed' and 'go cuddle your cats' I'm afraid to say you, like it or not, do sound rather sad. And before your ego gets the better of you, I am not attempting to be insulting nor do I have any desire to swap insults with you. But to make an flawed judgement and then defend it through personal abuse shows a distinct lack of character, integrity and respect.Morrigan wrote:Morrigan. You must be from Ireland. Me too, so I forgive you. Buffoon? Fool? Joke? Troll? The idea is to think like a human, not a cat. If a cat (or anything else) acts outside acceptable behaviour that is wrong! You know, your parents tried (and failed, obviously) to teach you about what is right and what is wrong. If you want to swap insults that is o.k. you will lose (but then again you should be used to that). Go cuddle your multiple cats, they will purr and then let them out and they will kill anything that moves. You should be grateful that they are not big enough to kill you. I suggest that you dont show them your brain however, if you do all bets are off!elite50 wrote:Cats do not have the capacity to behave "sadistically" you buffoon! Cats react as nature has programmed them to do - they have no concept of sadism - they merely hunt - not always to eat I admit, but it is the constant practise which hones their hunting skills. No more, no less. They don't go around thinking "I know, I'll just pop out for an hour to murder anything that moves" :o// You are a fool who is putting human behavioural traits and thoughts into an animal - they simply do not have the mental ability to think like that! Hahaha! you are a joke - or a troll who posts for a reaction - either way a sad little person who cannot see the difference between humans and animals mental abilities.beachcomber1 wrote: if you read some of the anti-cat rants on here (hello elite50) you won't be surprised if it is deliberate.Anti-cat rants? I LIKE cats, they are however, sadistic killers. I just point out the obvious. If you own a cat and let it run free it WILL kill all of the local wild-life that it can. Now it seems that a local "sadistic killer" is getting what they consider justice. What goes around comes around? I do not condone sadism in any form be it cats or people!
If you OWN an animal YOU are responsible for what it does!
Go stroke your killer!
LordLilliput
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2:55pm Sat 4 Aug 12
elite50 wrote:'Royal Society For The Prevention of Cruelty To People' - where did that come from?? You are clearly deluded! Ha ha!
What we, the people, really need is a group called the R.S.P.C.P.(people).
All the little old ladies (who still have a twinkle in their eye), could leave them all their money!
Free at last, Free at last, etc...........
I guess we can at least 'excuse' your disparaging comments now and raise a smile at your 'interesting' opinions..
LordLilliput
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3:00pm Sat 4 Aug 12
elite50 wrote:Talk about shifting the goalposts when you've lost an argument!
LordLilliput wrote:You still dont get it.
elite50 wrote:Elite50, you really are a buffoon you know. And an ignorant, patronising one at that too. Animals simply do not have the intellect to be 'sadistic'. If you fully understood the meaning of sadism you would realise that. You may deem the animal to be acting sadistically by human standards but the animal itself is not. You are making the fundamental error of interpreting an animals behaviour through the eyes of a human. As for your comments 'you will lose (you're probably used to that)' / 'you're parents failed' and 'go cuddle your cats' I'm afraid to say you, like it or not, do sound rather sad. And before your ego gets the better of you, I am not attempting to be insulting nor do I have any desire to swap insults with you. But to make an flawed judgement and then defend it through personal abuse shows a distinct lack of character, integrity and respect.Morrigan wrote:Morrigan. You must be from Ireland. Me too, so I forgive you. Buffoon? Fool? Joke? Troll? The idea is to think like a human, not a cat. If a cat (or anything else) acts outside acceptable behaviour that is wrong! You know, your parents tried (and failed, obviously) to teach you about what is right and what is wrong. If you want to swap insults that is o.k. you will lose (but then again you should be used to that). Go cuddle your multiple cats, they will purr and then let them out and they will kill anything that moves. You should be grateful that they are not big enough to kill you. I suggest that you dont show them your brain however, if you do all bets are off!elite50 wrote:Cats do not have the capacity to behave "sadistically" you buffoon! Cats react as nature has programmed them to do - they have no concept of sadism - they merely hunt - not always to eat I admit, but it is the constant practise which hones their hunting skills. No more, no less. They don't go around thinking "I know, I'll just pop out for an hour to murder anything that moves" :o// You are a fool who is putting human behavioural traits and thoughts into an animal - they simply do not have the mental ability to think like that! Hahaha! you are a joke - or a troll who posts for a reaction - either way a sad little person who cannot see the difference between humans and animals mental abilities.beachcomber1 wrote: if you read some of the anti-cat rants on here (hello elite50) you won't be surprised if it is deliberate.Anti-cat rants? I LIKE cats, they are however, sadistic killers. I just point out the obvious. If you own a cat and let it run free it WILL kill all of the local wild-life that it can. Now it seems that a local "sadistic killer" is getting what they consider justice. What goes around comes around? I do not condone sadism in any form be it cats or people!
If you OWN an animal YOU are responsible for what it does!
Go stroke your killer!
When or where did I suggest owners were not responsible for their pets?
Why not stay with the content rather than make stupid statements like that?
I refer you to my comment above. Bless.
Pablo23
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3:07pm Sat 4 Aug 12
People are responsible for how their pets impact on other peoples property and lives.
Just to say its natures way for cats to go around killing and excreting on others property is no excuse.
If my dog ran into a neighbours garden and attacked their children, I would be at fault. I could not say, ah, its natures way. Dogs don't know whats right or wrong.
When I was a child my Dad had a pigeon loft and raced pigeons. These birds are breed selectively, and can be very valuable.
He was constantly pestered ON HIS OWN PROPERTY, by neighbours cats trying to kill his valuable and carefully reared birds.
He didn't take drastic measures, but I'm sure he was tempted at times.
elite50
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3:08pm Sat 4 Aug 12
LordLilliput wrote:Well done, you managed to copy Morrigan and put in a few kicks of your own.
elite50 wrote:Elite50, you really are a buffoon you know. And an ignorant, patronising one at that too. Animals simply do not have the intellect to be 'sadistic'. If you fully understood the meaning of sadism you would realise that. You may deem the animal to be acting sadistically by human standards but the animal itself is not. You are making the fundamental error of interpreting an animals behaviour through the eyes of a human. As for your comments 'you will lose (you're probably used to that)' / 'you're parents failed' and 'go cuddle your cats' I'm afraid to say you, like it or not, do sound rather sad. And before your ego gets the better of you, I am not attempting to be insulting nor do I have any desire to swap insults with you. But to make an flawed judgement and then defend it through personal abuse shows a distinct lack of character, integrity and respect.Morrigan wrote:Morrigan. You must be from Ireland. Me too, so I forgive you. Buffoon? Fool? Joke? Troll? The idea is to think like a human, not a cat. If a cat (or anything else) acts outside acceptable behaviour that is wrong! You know, your parents tried (and failed, obviously) to teach you about what is right and what is wrong. If you want to swap insults that is o.k. you will lose (but then again you should be used to that). Go cuddle your multiple cats, they will purr and then let them out and they will kill anything that moves. You should be grateful that they are not big enough to kill you. I suggest that you dont show them your brain however, if you do all bets are off!elite50 wrote:Cats do not have the capacity to behave "sadistically" you buffoon! Cats react as nature has programmed them to do - they have no concept of sadism - they merely hunt - not always to eat I admit, but it is the constant practise which hones their hunting skills. No more, no less. They don't go around thinking "I know, I'll just pop out for an hour to murder anything that moves" :o// You are a fool who is putting human behavioural traits and thoughts into an animal - they simply do not have the mental ability to think like that! Hahaha! you are a joke - or a troll who posts for a reaction - either way a sad little person who cannot see the difference between humans and animals mental abilities.beachcomber1 wrote: if you read some of the anti-cat rants on here (hello elite50) you won't be surprised if it is deliberate.Anti-cat rants? I LIKE cats, they are however, sadistic killers. I just point out the obvious. If you own a cat and let it run free it WILL kill all of the local wild-life that it can. Now it seems that a local "sadistic killer" is getting what they consider justice. What goes around comes around? I do not condone sadism in any form be it cats or people!
Buffoon.
Ignorant.
Patronising.
Sad.
Flawed judgment.
Also Lacking:-
Character.
Integrity.
Respect.
All of this whilst NOT attempting to be insulting?
Are you MARRIED to your cats?????
I think there is a law about that somewhere.
LordLilliput
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3:17pm Sat 4 Aug 12
elite50 wrote:Hahahahahahahahahaha
LordLilliput wrote:Well done, you managed to copy Morrigan and put in a few kicks of your own.
elite50 wrote:Elite50, you really are a buffoon you know. And an ignorant, patronising one at that too. Animals simply do not have the intellect to be 'sadistic'. If you fully understood the meaning of sadism you would realise that. You may deem the animal to be acting sadistically by human standards but the animal itself is not. You are making the fundamental error of interpreting an animals behaviour through the eyes of a human. As for your comments 'you will lose (you're probably used to that)' / 'you're parents failed' and 'go cuddle your cats' I'm afraid to say you, like it or not, do sound rather sad. And before your ego gets the better of you, I am not attempting to be insulting nor do I have any desire to swap insults with you. But to make an flawed judgement and then defend it through personal abuse shows a distinct lack of character, integrity and respect.Morrigan wrote:Morrigan. You must be from Ireland. Me too, so I forgive you. Buffoon? Fool? Joke? Troll? The idea is to think like a human, not a cat. If a cat (or anything else) acts outside acceptable behaviour that is wrong! You know, your parents tried (and failed, obviously) to teach you about what is right and what is wrong. If you want to swap insults that is o.k. you will lose (but then again you should be used to that). Go cuddle your multiple cats, they will purr and then let them out and they will kill anything that moves. You should be grateful that they are not big enough to kill you. I suggest that you dont show them your brain however, if you do all bets are off!elite50 wrote:Cats do not have the capacity to behave "sadistically" you buffoon! Cats react as nature has programmed them to do - they have no concept of sadism - they merely hunt - not always to eat I admit, but it is the constant practise which hones their hunting skills. No more, no less. They don't go around thinking "I know, I'll just pop out for an hour to murder anything that moves" :o// You are a fool who is putting human behavioural traits and thoughts into an animal - they simply do not have the mental ability to think like that! Hahaha! you are a joke - or a troll who posts for a reaction - either way a sad little person who cannot see the difference between humans and animals mental abilities.beachcomber1 wrote: if you read some of the anti-cat rants on here (hello elite50) you won't be surprised if it is deliberate.Anti-cat rants? I LIKE cats, they are however, sadistic killers. I just point out the obvious. If you own a cat and let it run free it WILL kill all of the local wild-life that it can. Now it seems that a local "sadistic killer" is getting what they consider justice. What goes around comes around? I do not condone sadism in any form be it cats or people!
Buffoon.
Ignorant.
Patronising.
Sad.
Flawed judgment.
Also Lacking:-
Character.
Integrity.
Respect.
All of this whilst NOT attempting to be insulting?
Are you MARRIED to your cats?????
I think there is a law about that somewhere.
h!! Saturday afternoon entertainment!
Elite50, I would not take my comments as insults, I'd look at them more as guidance!
LordLilliput
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3:23pm Sat 4 Aug 12
Pablo23 wrote:No dispute with all that you say Pablo23, you are absolutely correct and I haven't said anything to the contrary. But this story is about an individual maybe deliberately poisoning animals illegally and that is wrong regardless.
Again, as much as I wouldn't want to be seen taking his side (no offense again) elite50 is correct.
People are responsible for how their pets impact on other peoples property and lives.
Just to say its natures way for cats to go around killing and excreting on others property is no excuse.
If my dog ran into a neighbours garden and attacked their children, I would be at fault. I could not say, ah, its natures way. Dogs don't know whats right or wrong.
When I was a child my Dad had a pigeon loft and raced pigeons. These birds are breed selectively, and can be very valuable.
He was constantly pestered ON HIS OWN PROPERTY, by neighbours cats trying to kill his valuable and carefully reared birds.
He didn't take drastic measures, but I'm sure he was tempted at times.
beachcomber1
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3:24pm Sat 4 Aug 12
elite50 exceeding allexpectations :-D
lelbel
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3:26pm Sat 4 Aug 12
Pablo23
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3:27pm Sat 4 Aug 12
LordLilliput wrote:Agreed.
Pablo23 wrote:No dispute with all that you say Pablo23, you are absolutely correct and I haven't said anything to the contrary. But this story is about an individual maybe deliberately poisoning animals illegally and that is wrong regardless.
Again, as much as I wouldn't want to be seen taking his side (no offense again) elite50 is correct.
People are responsible for how their pets impact on other peoples property and lives.
Just to say its natures way for cats to go around killing and excreting on others property is no excuse.
If my dog ran into a neighbours garden and attacked their children, I would be at fault. I could not say, ah, its natures way. Dogs don't know whats right or wrong.
When I was a child my Dad had a pigeon loft and raced pigeons. These birds are breed selectively, and can be very valuable.
He was constantly pestered ON HIS OWN PROPERTY, by neighbours cats trying to kill his valuable and carefully reared birds.
He didn't take drastic measures, but I'm sure he was tempted at times.
Fortunately, I think there are very few people that would condone cruelty to animals.
Bownie72
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3:46pm Sat 4 Aug 12
These animals are much loved pets and members of families with children and are also companions for elderly people with no families.
Think before you act and if you nothing constructive to say keep your comments to yourself!
BIGTONE
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4:30pm Sat 4 Aug 12
Bownie72
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4:43pm Sat 4 Aug 12
BIGTONE wrote:I'm in work ATM and no longer live in the road but my parents still do and they have my cat living there which is a huge worry :((
Put Kettle on!
Was Charlie
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6:26pm Sat 4 Aug 12
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It not only shows a totally selfish attitude - "If I don't like it no-one can have it because I am right and only my opinion counts" - but makes me wonder how cruel and sadistic they are in other parts of their lives.
WimborneSweety
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7:32pm Sat 4 Aug 12
goatty
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8:13pm Sat 4 Aug 12
When they eventually get caught, a good long prison sentence should be handed out as a deterrent to other moronic cowards who think killing animals like this is acceptable.
Perhaps the idiots who think it is funny and acceptable would like to think if someone had poisoned their kids or grandma, would it be so funny? sadly we live in a world filled with moronic cowards who the law does nothing against.
Bournefre
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8:15pm Sat 4 Aug 12
catsarewow wrote:It's clearly 'kids messing about'. I blame the parents.
look for the nice old man with the neat garden!
Was Charlie
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8:53pm Sat 4 Aug 12
cleanery
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8:58pm Sat 4 Aug 12
The nicest thing about a cat,is when the last bubble comes up.
Boredofthiscountry
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9:01pm Sat 4 Aug 12
robsmith123 wrote:Just pathetic!
can we find out who is doing this so we can congratulate them.
cleanery
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9:10pm Sat 4 Aug 12
It was a pantomime cat
Not a real posse cat
Echoman007
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10:07pm Sat 4 Aug 12
These remakrs seem to be misplaced given this is a story about someone who is clearly trying to inflict pain on creatures who can't defend themselves. Surely, this individual should be the the real focus of our angst. Lets hope he or she is caught before they move on to other things.
Let me also bring you cat haters back to YOUR responsibilities. These are set out under the law. Please google it. Let's hope you learn this and this is just some hot air when you can be macho behind the curtain on being annoymouse.
As for the scumbag who is doing this. Let's hope he or she gets caught soon.
Skyrah
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1:48am Sun 5 Aug 12
As for cat haters/garden lovers and bird feeders, go buy a supa-soaker water pistol, keep it in the fridge and give unwanted kitties a quick and humane blast. I have two cats before anyone accuses me of cruelty and I'd far rather you splash them with a bit of cold water than kill them with antifreeze!
I have used the water pistol to great effect when rescuing a fledgling from a neighbours cat in my garden. He still comes and says hi, and has suffered no ill effect. As for my two, one is terrified of birds and runs in howling if one flys too low over the garden or heaven forbid sits on our fence! The other is just too lazy to bother and would rather play with her catnip toys than anything that requires effort!
Desperado
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8:55am Sun 5 Aug 12
If they stray into gardens, where they are not welcome, they take there chances!
I think it would be very hard to prove someone is being cruel , just because they leave antifreeze out and a cat decides to drink it , I think it would be a case of curiosity killed the cat .
It is not as if they are force feeding it to cats.
If the owners care about them, they should be responsible for them, and keep them restrained .
lets be honest here, most pet owners know where there pets are.
I blame the owners .
retry69
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9:35am Sun 5 Aug 12
FNS-man
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9:53am Sun 5 Aug 12
http://epetitions.di
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beachcomber1
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10:23am Sun 5 Aug 12
Desperado wrote:begs the question why would anyone just leave antifreeze lying about. not the sort of thing one would do without malice aforethought.
Regardless of if you like or hate these disgusting killing machines.
If they stray into gardens, where they are not welcome, they take there chances!
I think it would be very hard to prove someone is being cruel , just because they leave antifreeze out and a cat decides to drink it , I think it would be a case of curiosity killed the cat .
It is not as if they are force feeding it to cats.
If the owners care about them, they should be responsible for them, and keep them restrained .
lets be honest here, most pet owners know where there pets are.
I blame the owners .
xylitol, a readily available artificial sweetener, is pretty deadly to dogs ,though not as fatal. if i left a bowl of that out and some dogs partook would you feel the same?
LordLilliput
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10:24am Sun 5 Aug 12
Desperado wrote:Yes, it is quite 'normal' to leave little bowls of antifreeze out in your garden isn't it??
Regardless of if you like or hate these disgusting killing machines.
If they stray into gardens, where they are not welcome, they take there chances!
I think it would be very hard to prove someone is being cruel , just because they leave antifreeze out and a cat decides to drink it , I think it would be a case of curiosity killed the cat .
It is not as if they are force feeding it to cats.
If the owners care about them, they should be responsible for them, and keep them restrained .
lets be honest here, most pet owners know where there pets are.
I blame the owners .
Do you think before you type or just let the nonsense spill out?
Morrigan
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10:36am Sun 5 Aug 12
beachcomber1 wrote:As a child living in Poole during the 1960's, I remember the tragic death of a little boy after he drank anti-freeze which had been stored in his father's shed.
Desperado wrote:begs the question why would anyone just leave antifreeze lying about. not the sort of thing one would do without malice aforethought.
Regardless of if you like or hate these disgusting killing machines.
If they stray into gardens, where they are not welcome, they take there chances!
I think it would be very hard to prove someone is being cruel , just because they leave antifreeze out and a cat decides to drink it , I think it would be a case of curiosity killed the cat .
It is not as if they are force feeding it to cats.
If the owners care about them, they should be responsible for them, and keep them restrained .
lets be honest here, most pet owners know where there pets are.
I blame the owners .
xylitol, a readily available artificial sweetener, is pretty deadly to dogs ,though not as fatal. if i left a bowl of that out and some dogs partook would you feel the same?
No one in their right mind would "just happen" to leave a deadly chemical laying around. This is a deliberate act of cruelty and with the school holidays and kids around, that person must be some sort of maniac!
ranger_bob
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10:36am Sun 5 Aug 12
retry69 wrote:Maybe we will start to get sightings of "The Beast of Hamworthy!".
Now the mass hysterics drummed up by recent headlines of tragedies are subsiding the Echo come up with Cat Killer At Large fantastic stuff!
ranger_bob
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10:40am Sun 5 Aug 12
elite50 wrote:Bit of a problem there since you CANNOT own a cat. You can own it's pedigree but cats in law are still classed as WILD animals. Still, let's not let the facts get in the way of a good troll eh?
stevobath wrote:What is acceptable in an area in which we live is to ACCEPT responsibility!
elite50 wrote:'Acceptable behaviour'? Theyre animals that cant be trained like a dog.Acceptable to who? YOU? I dont think poisoning an animal is acceptable behaviour.I hope the culprit gets their just rewards.Personally Id favour some street justice if I knew who it was & it was my cat that died in agony.How about making them drink some anti freeze?Morrigan wrote:Morrigan. You must be from Ireland. Me too, so I forgive you. Buffoon? Fool? Joke? Troll? The idea is to think like a human, not a cat. If a cat (or anything else) acts outside acceptable behaviour that is wrong! You know, your parents tried (and failed, obviously) to teach you about what is right and what is wrong. If you want to swap insults that is o.k. you will lose (but then again you should be used to that). Go cuddle your multiple cats, they will purr and then let them out and they will kill anything that moves. You should be grateful that they are not big enough to kill you. I suggest that you dont show them your brain however, if you do all bets are off!elite50 wrote:Cats do not have the capacity to behave "sadistically" you buffoon! Cats react as nature has programmed them to do - they have no concept of sadism - they merely hunt - not always to eat I admit, but it is the constant practise which hones their hunting skills. No more, no less. They don't go around thinking "I know, I'll just pop out for an hour to murder anything that moves" :o// You are a fool who is putting human behavioural traits and thoughts into an animal - they simply do not have the mental ability to think like that! Hahaha! you are a joke - or a troll who posts for a reaction - either way a sad little person who cannot see the difference between humans and animals mental abilities.beachcomber1 wrote: if you read some of the anti-cat rants on here (hello elite50) you won't be surprised if it is deliberate.Anti-cat rants? I LIKE cats, they are however, sadistic killers. I just point out the obvious. If you own a cat and let it run free it WILL kill all of the local wild-life that it can. Now it seems that a local "sadistic killer" is getting what they consider justice. What goes around comes around? I do not condone sadism in any form be it cats or people!
If you OWN a cat, dog, cow ,pig, chicken or whatever then YOU are responsible for its actions!
People in England seem to think that just because they like cats, dogs etc. that anything that these creatures do should be o.k. with the population at large.
That is NOT the case.
These SELFISH people should control their pets if they wish to own them.
Obviously someone in Hamworthy has taken this to a new level.
If he/she is caught then they will have the book thrown at them.
What about all the rest of the people who have to suffer the results of these unrestrained pets. Maybe a bit of "street justice" is called for, or is that being a bit "one eyed"?
elite50
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10:42am Sun 5 Aug 12
That is what makes this country so good. It is about time for the second British (leave out the Scots), Empire!
Lets re-colonise The U.S., we might win a few more medals!
ranger_bob
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10:45am Sun 5 Aug 12
Bournefre wrote:I blame cyclists, the surf reef, the Imax and the council. Have I missed out any of the usual suspects?
catsarewow wrote:It's clearly 'kids messing about'. I blame the parents.
look for the nice old man with the neat garden!
Crank
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11:03am Sun 5 Aug 12
Bownie72 wrote:I am appalled by this litany of bile. Cruelty to animals by humans is inexcusable and unforgivable, principally because it is premeditated and the consequences are known and these are appalling suffering but the cruel human has deliberately chosen to inflict that on a sentient animal.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and not everyone likes cats but my family home is next door to one of the victims and it is sickening to think that someone has done this out of spite! There are so many products on the market to deter cats (if you don't like them) that don't harm them so why kill them?
These animals are much loved pets and members of families with children and are also companions for elderly people with no families.
Think before you act and if you nothing constructive to say keep your comments to yourself!
Cats are predators. Part of their apparent cruelty is because their instincts have been blunted by being fed, and so when they catch something they string the experience out.
I agree that is horrible, but it's not a deliberate action to be cruel: a cat cannot be expected to understand that their prey is feeling pain.
However, on a practical note, it is also wise and humane to protect wildlife from this, and there are two main things every cat-owner can do.
1. Keep your cats in at night, especially between dusk and dawn.
2. Buy a Liberator collar for about £8 which is approved by the RSPCA and flashes and bleeps when the animal leaps for attack (it's a tiny electronic device on a collar).
No one should justify, or worse still, laugh at, the sufferings of an animal, as so many awful people have in the comments above. Heaven help us: where is our compassion and responsibility? I notice that child killers often start their careers as animal torturers . . .
retry69
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11:04am Sun 5 Aug 12
ranger_bob wrote:and the Bournemouth Bobcat
retry69 wrote:Maybe we will start to get sightings of "The Beast of Hamworthy!".
Now the mass hysterics drummed up by recent headlines of tragedies are subsiding the Echo come up with Cat Killer At Large fantastic stuff!
ranger_bob
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11:08am Sun 5 Aug 12
retry69 wrote:Or maybe the Poole Panther?
ranger_bob wrote:and the Bournemouth Bobcat
retry69 wrote:Maybe we will start to get sightings of "The Beast of Hamworthy!".
Now the mass hysterics drummed up by recent headlines of tragedies are subsiding the Echo come up with Cat Killer At Large fantastic stuff!
Bournemouthian
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11:31am Sun 5 Aug 12
But maybe if all the owners got together, they could arrange to visit all the houses in the area and check to see if in fact there are any leaks of anti-freeze or if they suspect anyone.All the dribble that has been coming out in previous reports do not help anyone.
I have two cats which stay in at night, but have been known to bring me a present rarely I might add.
I have been able to rescue the victim and send it on its way.
I too have one of those water guns and it is very useful. I would not mind anyone throwing water over my cats if they are seen to misbehave.
Water does not hurt them and please remember these cats are not just animals but company for people and also very much loved especially by children. I hope the problem is resolved because if someone can do this, then I would not want to live near them not just for my cats safety but for my own.
elite50
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11:35am Sun 5 Aug 12
Desperado wrote:Well said!
Regardless of if you like or hate these disgusting killing machines. If they stray into gardens, where they are not welcome, they take there chances! I think it would be very hard to prove someone is being cruel , just because they leave antifreeze out and a cat decides to drink it , I think it would be a case of curiosity killed the cat . It is not as if they are force feeding it to cats. If the owners care about them, they should be responsible for them, and keep them restrained . lets be honest here, most pet owners know where there pets are. I blame the owners .
The mass hysteria that has been whipped up over the death of five cats is unbelievable.
Drive down any busy street and you will see flattened cats everywhere.
Maybe we should ban cars.
Or maybe we should ensure that cat owners keep their pets in an enviroment that does not upset innocent drivers.
I know that what I am saying is making people angry but .......?
Yesterday I ate chicken, pig (sausages) and steak.
I have not the faintest idea how they were killed but I also know that 60 plus people did NOT write in to the Echo to protest my unfeeling attitude about this.
Five unrestrained cats die and the hatred is almost physical because I dont care.
If it were people I would weep in sorrow but then I am a realist, not like the long list of cat worshipers.
Maybe you people should go back to ancient Egypt when the last lot of you dreamers held power!
LordLilliput
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12:13pm Sun 5 Aug 12
elite50 wrote:I genuinely think that you may need some help Elite50.
Desperado wrote:Well said!
Regardless of if you like or hate these disgusting killing machines. If they stray into gardens, where they are not welcome, they take there chances! I think it would be very hard to prove someone is being cruel , just because they leave antifreeze out and a cat decides to drink it , I think it would be a case of curiosity killed the cat . It is not as if they are force feeding it to cats. If the owners care about them, they should be responsible for them, and keep them restrained . lets be honest here, most pet owners know where there pets are. I blame the owners .
The mass hysteria that has been whipped up over the death of five cats is unbelievable.
Drive down any busy street and you will see flattened cats everywhere.
Maybe we should ban cars.
Or maybe we should ensure that cat owners keep their pets in an enviroment that does not upset innocent drivers.
I know that what I am saying is making people angry but .......?
Yesterday I ate chicken, pig (sausages) and steak.
I have not the faintest idea how they were killed but I also know that 60 plus people did NOT write in to the Echo to protest my unfeeling attitude about this.
Five unrestrained cats die and the hatred is almost physical because I dont care.
If it were people I would weep in sorrow but then I am a realist, not like the long list of cat worshipers.
Maybe you people should go back to ancient Egypt when the last lot of you dreamers held power!
There is no mass hysteria. You do not see flattened cats everywhere. Comparing acts of deliberate cruelty to family pets with eating meat is frankly stupid. There is no physical hatred towards you. And yes, it's obvious you don't care.
You gloat at others compassion as if it's an achievement and seeming applaud and advocate cruelty like it's some kind of 'fair retribution'.
Not that you care, but I think most who read through the comments will readily conclude that either; you say these things for effect, which makes you look silly, or you are somewhat deranged, which make you a potential danger.
Either way, your world is not one I wish to visit.
elite50
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12:31pm Sun 5 Aug 12
LordLilliput wrote:No mass hysteria?
elite50 wrote:I genuinely think that you may need some help Elite50. There is no mass hysteria. You do not see flattened cats everywhere. Comparing acts of deliberate cruelty to family pets with eating meat is frankly stupid. There is no physical hatred towards you. And yes, it's obvious you don't care. You gloat at others compassion as if it's an achievement and seeming applaud and advocate cruelty like it's some kind of 'fair retribution'. Not that you care, but I think most who read through the comments will readily conclude that either; you say these things for effect, which makes you look silly, or you are somewhat deranged, which make you a potential danger. Either way, your world is not one I wish to visit.Desperado wrote: Regardless of if you like or hate these disgusting killing machines. If they stray into gardens, where they are not welcome, they take there chances! I think it would be very hard to prove someone is being cruel , just because they leave antifreeze out and a cat decides to drink it , I think it would be a case of curiosity killed the cat . It is not as if they are force feeding it to cats. If the owners care about them, they should be responsible for them, and keep them restrained . lets be honest here, most pet owners know where there pets are. I blame the owners .Well said! The mass hysteria that has been whipped up over the death of five cats is unbelievable. Drive down any busy street and you will see flattened cats everywhere. Maybe we should ban cars. Or maybe we should ensure that cat owners keep their pets in an enviroment that does not upset innocent drivers. I know that what I am saying is making people angry but .......? Yesterday I ate chicken, pig (sausages) and steak. I have not the faintest idea how they were killed but I also know that 60 plus people did NOT write in to the Echo to protest my unfeeling attitude about this. Five unrestrained cats die and the hatred is almost physical because I dont care. If it were people I would weep in sorrow but then I am a realist, not like the long list of cat worshipers. Maybe you people should go back to ancient Egypt when the last lot of you dreamers held power!
There are over 50 cat lovers defending their "right" to let their pets invade their nieghbours property, defecate , kill anything that moves and that is o.k?
You call it compassion.
I call it selfishness.
I dare you as a cat owner (obviously) to go and talk to ten of your neighbours and ask THEM how they feel about YOUR cats.
I bet you dont because the reality would make you take a look at the world as it really is!
The only DANGER that I threaten is to wake you and your ilk to reality!
LordLilliput
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12:57pm Sun 5 Aug 12
Listen, there is no 'mass hysteria' - again, look up the meaning, do not persist in using words you do not understand. No one is out of control except it seems you with your outrageous opinions (see my post above).
'50 cat lovers defending their right to let their pets invade their neighbours gardens..' - What are you talking about?????? Where do 50 people say that????
And you have decided in your head that I own a cat - wrong, I don't.
But then I think a lot of things go on in your head!!!!! Hahahahahahahaha
Let it go now, you're embarrassing yourself.
stevobath
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12:58pm Sun 5 Aug 12
Bournemouthian wrote:Well poisoning a cat is an OFFENCE.
I send my best wishes to those who have lost their cats through this unforgivable crime.
But maybe if all the owners got together, they could arrange to visit all the houses in the area and check to see if in fact there are any leaks of anti-freeze or if they suspect anyone.All the dribble that has been coming out in previous reports do not help anyone.
I have two cats which stay in at night, but have been known to bring me a present rarely I might add.
I have been able to rescue the victim and send it on its way.
I too have one of those water guns and it is very useful. I would not mind anyone throwing water over my cats if they are seen to misbehave.
Water does not hurt them and please remember these cats are not just animals but company for people and also very much loved especially by children. I hope the problem is resolved because if someone can do this, then I would not want to live near them not just for my cats safety but for my own.
If you want to keep cats out of your garden I suggest a Bull Terrier...I have one & it works well.Last cat that ENTERED my kitchen was saved (just ) by me from my dogs jaws.Its daft owner tried to tell me I was going to get arrested! Sadly the Dog Warden had to tell her the news that if her cat enters my garden/property, then its tough if my dog eats it..I dont mind cats.I owned 2 Cornish Rexes,though they were happy house cats & trainable & I walked them on a harness! A bit of 'balance' is in order.A decent water pistol suffices....I think the 'Bird Lovers' are a bit OTT with their 'Millions of birds being killed' by cats every year.Wed have none left within a very short time.If there is someone killing cats on purpose I hope theyre caught.Just cause you dont like them you cant go killing them (in a cowardly way, may I add).
stevobath
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12:59pm Sun 5 Aug 12
Bournemouthian wrote:Well poisoning a cat is an OFFENCE.
I send my best wishes to those who have lost their cats through this unforgivable crime.
But maybe if all the owners got together, they could arrange to visit all the houses in the area and check to see if in fact there are any leaks of anti-freeze or if they suspect anyone.All the dribble that has been coming out in previous reports do not help anyone.
I have two cats which stay in at night, but have been known to bring me a present rarely I might add.
I have been able to rescue the victim and send it on its way.
I too have one of those water guns and it is very useful. I would not mind anyone throwing water over my cats if they are seen to misbehave.
Water does not hurt them and please remember these cats are not just animals but company for people and also very much loved especially by children. I hope the problem is resolved because if someone can do this, then I would not want to live near them not just for my cats safety but for my own.
If you want to keep cats out of your garden I suggest a Bull Terrier...I have one & it works well.Last cat that ENTERED my kitchen was saved (just ) by me from my dogs jaws.Its daft owner tried to tell me I was going to get arrested! Sadly the Dog Warden had to tell her the news that if her cat enters my garden/property, then its tough if my dog eats it..I dont mind cats.I owned 2 Cornish Rexes,though they were happy house cats & trainable & I walked them on a harness! A bit of 'balance' is in order.A decent water pistol suffices....I think the 'Bird Lovers' are a bit OTT with their 'Millions of birds being killed' by cats every year.Wed have none left within a very short time.If there is someone killing cats on purpose I hope theyre caught.Just cause you dont like them you cant go killing them (in a cowardly way, may I add).
cleanery
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1:16pm Sun 5 Aug 12
I dont like long haired cats
I bought a long haired cat
I clipped it with a size 30 blade
Now I got a short haired cat
I like short haired cats
Tomorrow I am sending for
The man with a flat cap
To fit me a cat flap.
Then off back to Beirut.
elite50
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1:50pm Sun 5 Aug 12
LordLilliput wrote:Your favourite expression seems to be Hahahahah etc.
Ha ha, you're quite good at this aren't you? Misguided, but nonetheless determined.. Listen, there is no 'mass hysteria' - again, look up the meaning, do not persist in using words you do not understand. No one is out of control except it seems you with your outrageous opinions (see my post above). '50 cat lovers defending their right to let their pets invade their neighbours gardens..' - What are you talking about?????? Where do 50 people say that???? And you have decided in your head that I own a cat - wrong, I don't. But then I think a lot of things go on in your head!!!!! Hahahahahahahaha Let it go now, you're embarrassing yourself.
You may not be aware but anyone who continues with a repetative theme (Hahah etc. etc.) has a problem that needs medical help.
If I can help you to bring your life back to normality just let me know.
I will be there for you!
I (however) refuse to give you a cuddle. Go find a cat!
retry69
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2:04pm Sun 5 Aug 12
Linguist
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2:06pm Sun 5 Aug 12
retry69
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2:21pm Sun 5 Aug 12
Linguist wrote:It really is worrying who might be walking next to you isnt it
Can anyone tell me if this works for foxes too?
Desperado
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2:55pm Sun 5 Aug 12
LordLilliput wrote:Before you get on your high horse .
Desperado wrote: Regardless of if you like or hate these disgusting killing machines. If they stray into gardens, where they are not welcome, they take there chances! I think it would be very hard to prove someone is being cruel , just because they leave antifreeze out and a cat decides to drink it , I think it would be a case of curiosity killed the cat . It is not as if they are force feeding it to cats. If the owners care about them, they should be responsible for them, and keep them restrained . lets be honest here, most pet owners know where there pets are. I blame the owners .Yes, it is quite 'normal' to leave little bowls of antifreeze out in your garden isn't it?? Do you think before you type or just let the nonsense spill out?
Did I say anything about putting it out in a cat bowl .
Have you ever had to drain antifreeze from a vehicle ? (I doubt it).
I have many times , it is virtually imposable to catch it all as you disconnect the bottom hose.
Some people still do work on cars at home , and spillage is inevitable .
When people are doing this sort of job, the last thing on their minds are trespassing cats or dogs .
EGHH
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2:57pm Sun 5 Aug 12
retry69
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3:46pm Sun 5 Aug 12
EGHH wrote:I would rather not believe that although i agree with the first line
Too many wierdos in this town, FBI research shows that the majority serial killers begin by killing or hurting pets.. Next they'll be spiking kids ice cream as they are too noisy etc.
Adrian XX
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3:54pm Sun 5 Aug 12
What if cats just ARE sadistic? What if sadism is simply one of their traits? What if we were to find a "sadism gene" in serial-killing-human
s and then find a homologous gene in cats? I think that would be pretty convincing. Of course, very few cat lovers will believe it. No one will ever be convinced their favourite pets can be evil just as no one will ever be convinced their own children are evil.
Anyway, I suspect the cats mentioned in this article have been drinking Austrian wine - a well-known source of ethylene glycol and a favourite tipple of moggies.
retry69
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4:00pm Sun 5 Aug 12
Adrian XX wrote:As i was saying it is worrying who might be walking next to you in the street
I think elite50 has a point. Cats are killers and I am not convinced that "animals simply do not have the intellect to be 'sadistic'" - I don't think there is any proof of that.
What if cats just ARE sadistic? What if sadism is simply one of their traits? What if we were to find a "sadism gene" in serial-killing-human
s and then find a homologous gene in cats? I think that would be pretty convincing. Of course, very few cat lovers will believe it. No one will ever be convinced their favourite pets can be evil just as no one will ever be convinced their own children are evil.
Anyway, I suspect the cats mentioned in this article have been drinking Austrian wine - a well-known source of ethylene glycol and a favourite tipple of moggies.
LordLilliput
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4:05pm Sun 5 Aug 12
elite50 wrote:I rest my case.
LordLilliput wrote:Your favourite expression seems to be Hahahahah etc.
Ha ha, you're quite good at this aren't you? Misguided, but nonetheless determined.. Listen, there is no 'mass hysteria' - again, look up the meaning, do not persist in using words you do not understand. No one is out of control except it seems you with your outrageous opinions (see my post above). '50 cat lovers defending their right to let their pets invade their neighbours gardens..' - What are you talking about?????? Where do 50 people say that???? And you have decided in your head that I own a cat - wrong, I don't. But then I think a lot of things go on in your head!!!!! Hahahahahahahaha Let it go now, you're embarrassing yourself.
You may not be aware but anyone who continues with a repetative theme (Hahah etc. etc.) has a problem that needs medical help.
If I can help you to bring your life back to normality just let me know.
I will be there for you!
I (however) refuse to give you a cuddle. Go find a cat!
You are one interesting subject elite50!
Was Charlie
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6:29pm Sun 5 Aug 12
.......
I bet his psychiatrist thinks so too. To hold such view on cruelty and torture being OK, he must be under psychiatric investigation with a view to being confined to a secure unit. If not why not? Normal people need protection from people like him.
juniorpilot
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10:36pm Sun 5 Aug 12
One persons pet is another persons vermin.
ronlin
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11:20pm Sun 5 Aug 12
Pablo23 wrote:He raced pigeons wow bet he got out of breath ha ha .
Again, as much as I wouldn't want to be seen taking his side (no offense again) elite50 is correct.
People are responsible for how their pets impact on other peoples property and lives.
Just to say its natures way for cats to go around killing and excreting on others property is no excuse.
If my dog ran into a neighbours garden and attacked their children, I would be at fault. I could not say, ah, its natures way. Dogs don't know whats right or wrong.
When I was a child my Dad had a pigeon loft and raced pigeons. These birds are breed selectively, and can be very valuable.
He was constantly pestered ON HIS OWN PROPERTY, by neighbours cats trying to kill his valuable and carefully reared birds.
He didn't take drastic measures, but I'm sure he was tempted at times.
elite50
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12:23am Mon 6 Aug 12
Was Charlie wrote:Here is another "cat person".
"You are one interesting subject elite 50!" ....... I bet his psychiatrist thinks so too. To hold such view on cruelty and torture being OK, he must be under psychiatric investigation with a view to being confined to a secure unit. If not why not? Normal people need protection from people like him.
What is it with you lot?
Just because I dont go into mourning over the death (am I allowed to use that word?) of 5 cats I am supposed to be a danger to society.
What would you do without discenting voices in your drab little worlds?
You should get a religion going (you know, with a cat church and everything) then you can pour ashes on your sackcloths when the next killer meets its end!
You could have a holiday every year, you could call it Catmouse Day or something equally deep and meaningful.
Oh dear!
Was Charlie
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8:06am Mon 6 Aug 12
elite50 wrote:I am not another "cat person" - I just can't understand how someone can be so comfortable with cruelty and torture. Civilised people find them abhorant. Sadists like them.
Was Charlie wrote:Here is another "cat person".
"You are one interesting subject elite 50!" ....... I bet his psychiatrist thinks so too. To hold such view on cruelty and torture being OK, he must be under psychiatric investigation with a view to being confined to a secure unit. If not why not? Normal people need protection from people like him.
What is it with you lot?
Just because I dont go into mourning over the death (am I allowed to use that word?) of 5 cats I am supposed to be a danger to society.
What would you do without discenting voices in your drab little worlds?
You should get a religion going (you know, with a cat church and everything) then you can pour ashes on your sackcloths when the next killer meets its end!
You could have a holiday every year, you could call it Catmouse Day or something equally deep and meaningful.
Oh dear!
......
As has been said by others, cruelty to animals often precedes cruelty to humans. As you're so happy with it, presumably you think the Nazis did nothing wrong at Auschwitz - or perhaps you'e a holocaust denier and a racist too.
Was Charlie
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8:09am Mon 6 Aug 12
beachcomber1
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9:21am Mon 6 Aug 12
juniorpilot wrote:well said, juniorpilot. the ability to see all life as precious is rare.
How many people on here complaining about cruelty to cats wouldn't think twice about calling the council about rats in their neighbourhood and have them poisened?
One persons pet is another persons vermin.
it is one of life's paradoxes that nature is undeniably red in tooth and claw. in order for you to live something else has to die. whoever configured this particular world we have to live in is a bit of a ****.
cleanery
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9:37am Mon 6 Aug 12
She used to do a first cross-breed with a GOLEN EAGLE to put the s**t up the moggies.
you never saw a cat **** off so fast in all you life man.
elite50
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10:14am Mon 6 Aug 12
Was Charlie wrote:Holocaust denier?
elite50 wrote:I am not another "cat person" - I just can't understand how someone can be so comfortable with cruelty and torture. Civilised people find them abhorant. Sadists like them. ...... As has been said by others, cruelty to animals often precedes cruelty to humans. As you're so happy with it, presumably you think the Nazis did nothing wrong at Auschwitz - or perhaps you'e a holocaust denier and a racist too.Was Charlie wrote: "You are one interesting subject elite 50!" ....... I bet his psychiatrist thinks so too. To hold such view on cruelty and torture being OK, he must be under psychiatric investigation with a view to being confined to a secure unit. If not why not? Normal people need protection from people like him.Here is another "cat person". What is it with you lot? Just because I dont go into mourning over the death (am I allowed to use that word?) of 5 cats I am supposed to be a danger to society. What would you do without discenting voices in your drab little worlds? You should get a religion going (you know, with a cat church and everything) then you can pour ashes on your sackcloths when the next killer meets its end! You could have a holiday every year, you could call it Catmouse Day or something equally deep and meaningful. Oh dear!
Racist?
Sadist?
What depth do you need to reach to try and win a difference of opinion?
All of this hatred and vitriol because I dont care about a few cats?
You think I need help?
Take a look in the mirror, YOU are SICK!
PooleParky
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11:16am Mon 6 Aug 12
Was Charlie wrote:Aaaaand we're at Godwin's Law.
elite50 wrote:I am not another "cat person" - I just can't understand how someone can be so comfortable with cruelty and torture. Civilised people find them abhorant. Sadists like them.
Was Charlie wrote:Here is another "cat person".
"You are one interesting subject elite 50!" ....... I bet his psychiatrist thinks so too. To hold such view on cruelty and torture being OK, he must be under psychiatric investigation with a view to being confined to a secure unit. If not why not? Normal people need protection from people like him.
What is it with you lot?
Just because I dont go into mourning over the death (am I allowed to use that word?) of 5 cats I am supposed to be a danger to society.
What would you do without discenting voices in your drab little worlds?
You should get a religion going (you know, with a cat church and everything) then you can pour ashes on your sackcloths when the next killer meets its end!
You could have a holiday every year, you could call it Catmouse Day or something equally deep and meaningful.
Oh dear!
......
As has been said by others, cruelty to animals often precedes cruelty to humans. As you're so happy with it, presumably you think the Nazis did nothing wrong at Auschwitz - or perhaps you'e a holocaust denier and a racist too.
scrumpyjack
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11:18am Mon 6 Aug 12
Was Charlie wrote:BINGO! You are the (inevitable) winner of the "Godwin's Law" award.
elite50 wrote:I am not another "cat person" - I just can't understand how someone can be so comfortable with cruelty and torture. Civilised people find them abhorant. Sadists like them.
Was Charlie wrote:Here is another "cat person".
"You are one interesting subject elite 50!" ....... I bet his psychiatrist thinks so too. To hold such view on cruelty and torture being OK, he must be under psychiatric investigation with a view to being confined to a secure unit. If not why not? Normal people need protection from people like him.
What is it with you lot?
Just because I dont go into mourning over the death (am I allowed to use that word?) of 5 cats I am supposed to be a danger to society.
What would you do without discenting voices in your drab little worlds?
You should get a religion going (you know, with a cat church and everything) then you can pour ashes on your sackcloths when the next killer meets its end!
You could have a holiday every year, you could call it Catmouse Day or something equally deep and meaningful.
Oh dear!
......
As has been said by others, cruelty to animals often precedes cruelty to humans. As you're so happy with it, presumably you think the Nazis did nothing wrong at Auschwitz - or perhaps you'e a holocaust denier and a racist too.
(do look it up if you're not aware of it)
Dorset Logic
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11:28am Mon 6 Aug 12
beachcomber1
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11:30am Mon 6 Aug 12
10:14am Mon 6 Aug 12
All of this hatred and vitriol because I dont care about a few cats?"
it seems to me that your posts indicate not a neutral stance as you now seek to claim, but that you seem to be actively revelling in the painful deaths these cats have suffered. and you seem to want to justify this by anthropomorphic argument, that cats "sadistically" kill, therefore it's somehow ok for them to suffer an agonising death. hmmm interesting. are you a proponent of Shariah Law by any chance?
that these cats were pets, not feral, and may not have killed anything in their lives seems to escape you. but that's not surprising given your ignorance of pet cats. it's like a virgin seeking to offer an opinion about sex.
a quick google shows that you have often posted on here actively advocated the trapping and killing of cats, so don't give it the "i don't care" rubbish, as you clearly do.
spiderpig
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11:38am Mon 6 Aug 12
cleanery
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12:30pm Mon 6 Aug 12
i got you previous posts here in front of me.
Hawk01
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12:53pm Mon 6 Aug 12
Hawk01
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1:01pm Mon 6 Aug 12
cleanery
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1:04pm Mon 6 Aug 12
Hawk01
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1:21pm Mon 6 Aug 12
Adrian XX
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1:27pm Mon 6 Aug 12
When cats appear to experience pain and suffering we say "Oh poor things".
Just because a cat yelps when you poke it, that does not automatically mean it feels pain. Perhaps it does, perhaps it doesn't. I strongly suspect that an animal's experience of pain is very different to ours.
As I have said before, I wouldn't harm a cat (except for shooting it with a water pistol), because it is against the law and a cat is someone's property, but I cannot get upset about a few cats being poisoned.
Niceplums
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1:29pm Mon 6 Aug 12
catsarewow wrote:Catsarewow,
look for the nice old man with the neat garden!
Congratulations you have just managed to improve Dorset's detection rates! see:
http://www.bournemou
thecho.co.uk/news/98
57534.Dorset_Police_
clear_up_rate_one_of
_worst_in_UK/?action
=success
It is almost guaranteed that this is some one who doesn't like cats soiling their flowerbeds or gravel paths!
I bet they keep any balls that kids kick over the fence too!
Hawk01
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1:34pm Mon 6 Aug 12
Hawk01
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1:44pm Mon 6 Aug 12
cleanery wrote:Just for the record - I have a good job and own my own home. Before you ask how come I'm here during a Monday lunch time, it's called annual holiday entitlement. I trust you can say the same.....
Where do you live then on a gypsy site?
cleanery
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2:07pm Mon 6 Aug 12
also dont quote me Ok sweetheart.
KerriR
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2:24pm Mon 6 Aug 12
My little one doesn't go out after one of my other cats was run over and left dead in the road by some bast*rd, but my other cat is an old boy who plods around our garden, sleeps on our garage roof and causes no harm to anyone. He's hardly 'sadistic'. If he does kill a mouse it's because it's in his nature - he doesn't know how to think. People can think (well, supposedly!) and know the difference between right and wrong (or should do).If it is deliberate, it's inhumane and the person doing it is very twisted.
I bet if it was happening to dogs there would be an uproar - but it's ok for irresponsible dog owners to let their dogs do their business anywhere they like and just leave it there isn't it?
I don't particularly care for the dozens of squirrels and voles that dig up my garden but I would never dream of poisoning them!
And before I get slated as a 'crazy cat lady' I bought my cats with the intention of loving and caring for them - they are my responsibilty and I do what I can to look after them as I would with any animal.I just hope this is accidental and not deliberate.
KayFerris96
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2:48pm Mon 6 Aug 12
retry69
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3:38pm Mon 6 Aug 12
KayFerris96 wrote:Unforunately if you regularly post comments on here you do see what sort of society you are surrounded by, and those are the people who always point the finger of fault elsewhere ,and i do share your feelings about distancing them from my family
maybe the R.S.P.C.A and police should look in depth at some of the people on here. no animal wild or domestic should suffer this kind of sick fate. I hope if its deliberate they get caught and dealt with in the severest possible way, if it is accidental I hope the source is found and cleaned up. Strange how on things like this you get to see the worst of human nature aswell as the best. Difference being the best can hold their heads high and say it not just on here but in public whereas the worst I hope stay hidden behind computer screens because I sure wouldnt want them near me or my family never mind any animals wild or domestic.
cleanery
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3:38pm Mon 6 Aug 12
Hawk01 wrote:Please explain to me how a horse can climb over a roof and drink poison in a garden.
Adrian - I have to ask, would you say the same if it was dogs? or horses? or children? No creature should suffer that kind of death, be it animal or human. Both animals and humans suffer through either accident or illness, but - assuming this is indeed a deliberate act - it's still wrong, however you look at it.
unless its Champion The Wonder Horse
The sooner you holiday is over the better for all of us.
ranger_bob
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4:37pm Mon 6 Aug 12
Was Charlie wrote:Well done Was Charlie! First person on this thread to break Godwin's Law!
elite50 wrote:I am not another "cat person" - I just can't understand how someone can be so comfortable with cruelty and torture. Civilised people find them abhorant. Sadists like them.
Was Charlie wrote:Here is another "cat person".
"You are one interesting subject elite 50!" ....... I bet his psychiatrist thinks so too. To hold such view on cruelty and torture being OK, he must be under psychiatric investigation with a view to being confined to a secure unit. If not why not? Normal people need protection from people like him.
What is it with you lot?
Just because I dont go into mourning over the death (am I allowed to use that word?) of 5 cats I am supposed to be a danger to society.
What would you do without discenting voices in your drab little worlds?
You should get a religion going (you know, with a cat church and everything) then you can pour ashes on your sackcloths when the next killer meets its end!
You could have a holiday every year, you could call it Catmouse Day or something equally deep and meaningful.
Oh dear!
......
As has been said by others, cruelty to animals often precedes cruelty to humans. As you're so happy with it, presumably you think the Nazis did nothing wrong at Auschwitz - or perhaps you'e a holocaust denier and a racist too.
cleanery
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5:03pm Mon 6 Aug 12
cleanery wrote:I backed a racehorse
Hawk01 wrote:Please explain to me how a horse can climb over a roof and drink poison in a garden.
Adrian - I have to ask, would you say the same if it was dogs? or horses? or children? No creature should suffer that kind of death, be it animal or human. Both animals and humans suffer through either accident or illness, but - assuming this is indeed a deliberate act - it's still wrong, however you look at it.
unless its Champion The Wonder Horse
The sooner you holiday is over the better for all of us.
it wouldn't drink anti freeze
it always froze at the OFF
Was Charlie
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6:34pm Mon 6 Aug 12
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I haven't broken it - I've confirmed it. Glad there are others on here who have heard of it.
........
In this case it's highly appropriate. elite 50 is totally unable to see that his view on torture and cruelty are totally unacceptable in what is supposed to be a civilised society, and, if he acted on them, illegal, no matter how many posters tell him so..
cleanery
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6:42pm Mon 6 Aug 12
spiderpig
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9:47pm Mon 6 Aug 12
spiderpig
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9:47pm Mon 6 Aug 12
sarahlr18
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11:09pm Mon 6 Aug 12
cats are living things just like humans the person doing this wouldn't like to suffer the same fate as these poor innocent cats!
I mean I swear to god if someone did that to my cat I'd make sure I'd find them!
elite50
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11:41pm Mon 6 Aug 12
Was Charlie wrote:You still dont get it.
"Well done Was Charlie! First person on this thread to break Godwin's Law!" ...... I haven't broken it - I've confirmed it. Glad there are others on here who have heard of it. ........ In this case it's highly appropriate. elite 50 is totally unable to see that his view on torture and cruelty are totally unacceptable in what is supposed to be a civilised society, and, if he acted on them, illegal, no matter how many posters tell him so..
I don't HAVE a veiw on torture and cruelty towads cats.
People, yes.
Cats, NO.
Do you GET it?????????
derek_acorah
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11:49pm Mon 6 Aug 12
cleanery wrote:The echo comment thread version of Godwin's Law has to be gypsies/travelers. Wait long enough, and the subject will break in, park its caravan, and defecate in the nearest ditch.
Where do you live then on a gypsy site?
Which thinking about it, is very similar to what cats are accused of futher up the thread. Normally without caravans though.
scrumpyjack
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8:29am Tue 7 Aug 12
derek_acorah wrote:brilliant
cleanery wrote:The echo comment thread version of Godwin's Law has to be gypsies/travelers. Wait long enough, and the subject will break in, park its caravan, and defecate in the nearest ditch.
Where do you live then on a gypsy site?
Which thinking about it, is very similar to what cats are accused of futher up the thread. Normally without caravans though.
abidah
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12:03pm Tue 7 Aug 12
ristchurch and Ferndown areas suggests to me that the culprits are youngsters and their families. The central point of the region involved might be where the perps are to be found.
Those poor little cats.
stevobath
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12:13pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Crank wrote:What a sensible,measured comment.Unlike Elite 50 who seems to think its OK to poison animals.Sadistic?
Bownie72 wrote:I am appalled by this litany of bile. Cruelty to animals by humans is inexcusable and unforgivable, principally because it is premeditated and the consequences are known and these are appalling suffering but the cruel human has deliberately chosen to inflict that on a sentient animal.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and not everyone likes cats but my family home is next door to one of the victims and it is sickening to think that someone has done this out of spite! There are so many products on the market to deter cats (if you don't like them) that don't harm them so why kill them?
These animals are much loved pets and members of families with children and are also companions for elderly people with no families.
Think before you act and if you nothing constructive to say keep your comments to yourself!
Cats are predators. Part of their apparent cruelty is because their instincts have been blunted by being fed, and so when they catch something they string the experience out.
I agree that is horrible, but it's not a deliberate action to be cruel: a cat cannot be expected to understand that their prey is feeling pain.
However, on a practical note, it is also wise and humane to protect wildlife from this, and there are two main things every cat-owner can do.
1. Keep your cats in at night, especially between dusk and dawn.
2. Buy a Liberator collar for about £8 which is approved by the RSPCA and flashes and bleeps when the animal leaps for attack (it's a tiny electronic device on a collar).
No one should justify, or worse still, laugh at, the sufferings of an animal, as so many awful people have in the comments above. Heaven help us: where is our compassion and responsibility? I notice that child killers often start their careers as animal torturers . . .
Bournefre
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5:18pm Tue 7 Aug 12
Dorset Logic wrote:Soap and stale urine?
I smell old people
Linguist
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8:00pm Tue 7 Aug 12
LordLilliput
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8:23am Wed 8 Aug 12
Linguist wrote:Rather than ask rhetorical questions about whether it is likely to kill foxes, how about adding to your pointless one line contribution? Is that your wish or intention then? Please enlighten us..
I still need to know if this works for foxes though.
cleanery
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6:16pm Wed 8 Aug 12
get your self a CHALKY dog from a good breeder.
SharaWx
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12:47am Thu 9 Aug 12
Pablo23 wrote:cats bring home mice and birds and other small animals as a 'present' for their owner. They're doing what they know best and know how to do which is hunting. They dont always mean to kill or harm the animal when doing so. Its their way of showing appreciation to their owners, a sort of thank you. It is a well known fact. Also other animals given half the chance would do the same. Including dogs.
Morrigan wrote:As much as I don't want to take sides with elite50 (no offense), he is right in that cats are prolific killers and enjoy playing with and torturing their prey while its still alive.
elite50 wrote:Cats do not have the capacity to behave "sadistically" you buffoon!
beachcomber1 wrote:Anti-cat rants?
if you read some of the anti-cat rants on here (hello elite50) you won't be surprised if it is deliberate.
I LIKE cats, they are however, sadistic killers.
I just point out the obvious.
If you own a cat and let it run free it WILL kill all of the local wild-life that it can.
Now it seems that a local "sadistic killer" is getting what they consider justice.
What goes around comes around?
I do not condone sadism in any form be it cats or people!
Cats react as nature has programmed them to do - they have no concept of sadism - they merely hunt - not always to eat I admit, but it is the constant practise which hones their hunting skills. No more, no less.
They don't go around thinking "I know, I'll just pop out for an hour to murder anything that moves" :o//
You are a fool who is putting human behavioural traits and thoughts into an animal - they simply do not have the mental ability to think like that!
Hahaha! you are a joke - or a troll who posts for a reaction - either way a sad little person who cannot see the difference between humans and animals mental abilities.
I speak as someone who used to have a cat and was often greated with maimed birds and mice struggling around the kitchen in the morning.
However, it is indeed natures way, and we as humans have the ability to be compassionate to other living things.
Even if we do unbalance nature with our actions and cause too many cats to be about.
Personally i'm not really a cat person, i much prefer dogs, and probably wouldn't ever own a cat.. but to do this to a cat on purpose is disgusting. I'd like to think there is a better explanation than someone sadistically killing these poor animals for fun or revenge.
elite50
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3:00pm Thu 9 Aug 12
SharaWx wrote:I adore my wife!
Pablo23 wrote:cats bring home mice and birds and other small animals as a 'present' for their owner. They're doing what they know best and know how to do which is hunting. They dont always mean to kill or harm the animal when doing so. Its their way of showing appreciation to their owners, a sort of thank you. It is a well known fact. Also other animals given half the chance would do the same. Including dogs. Personally i'm not really a cat person, i much prefer dogs, and probably wouldn't ever own a cat.. but to do this to a cat on purpose is disgusting. I'd like to think there is a better explanation than someone sadistically killing these poor animals for fun or revenge.Morrigan wrote:As much as I don't want to take sides with elite50 (no offense), he is right in that cats are prolific killers and enjoy playing with and torturing their prey while its still alive. I speak as someone who used to have a cat and was often greated with maimed birds and mice struggling around the kitchen in the morning. However, it is indeed natures way, and we as humans have the ability to be compassionate to other living things. Even if we do unbalance nature with our actions and cause too many cats to be about.elite50 wrote:Cats do not have the capacity to behave "sadistically" you buffoon! Cats react as nature has programmed them to do - they have no concept of sadism - they merely hunt - not always to eat I admit, but it is the constant practise which hones their hunting skills. No more, no less. They don't go around thinking "I know, I'll just pop out for an hour to murder anything that moves" :o// You are a fool who is putting human behavioural traits and thoughts into an animal - they simply do not have the mental ability to think like that! Hahaha! you are a joke - or a troll who posts for a reaction - either way a sad little person who cannot see the difference between humans and animals mental abilities.beachcomber1 wrote: if you read some of the anti-cat rants on here (hello elite50) you won't be surprised if it is deliberate.Anti-cat rants? I LIKE cats, they are however, sadistic killers. I just point out the obvious. If you own a cat and let it run free it WILL kill all of the local wild-life that it can. Now it seems that a local "sadistic killer" is getting what they consider justice. What goes around comes around? I do not condone sadism in any form be it cats or people!
I have never dragged anything home, dead dog , cat, bird, person on purpose.
I dont always mean to kill or harm the thing that I have dragged home.
I am just trying to impress my wife.
That makes it o.k.?
I think that I prefer the people that hate me because I prefer the reality of life!
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10:15am Fri 10 Aug 12
Pablo23 says...
10:04am Sat 4 Aug 12