Poole bar’s hours may be cut after complaints from nearby residents (From Thisisdorset)
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Poole bar’s hours may be cut after complaints from nearby residents
9:00am Sunday 8th July 2012 in Latest By Joanna Codd
RESTRICTIONS: Bella Rosa in Canford Cliffs
A BAR accused of disturbing nearby residents could have its opening hours cut following a string of complaints about late night noise.
People living near Bella Rosa in Canford Cliffs village, Poole, said they had been regularly kept awake by loud music, swearing, singing, shouting, vomiting, slamming of car doors and fighting.
The Italian restaurant and bar was the scene of a violent incident involving killer Elliot Turner in April last year.
He pushed his 17-year-old girlfriend Emily Longley’s head down on to a table there just a week before he murdered her.
The premises have been closed for the last couple of months and it is not known whether they will reopen.
Poole’s environmental health services department has now asked the council’s licensing sub-committee, which meets next Wednesday to review Bella Rosa’s 24-hour licence.
Environmental health officers are recommending that the conditions should be changed so the premises would be forced to stop selling alcohol at 12.30pm, and close by 1am.
A report to the sub-committee says environmental health and police officers had been called to deal with disturbances from the venue on a number of occasions.
Premises supervisor Lewis Jeandren, managing director of owner LWS Bars Limited, offered to use door staff to control the behaviour of customers outside, but the report says this had “limited success”.
“We continued to receive complaints about the behaviour of patrons .... There is an obvious problem with noise from customers.
“With this in mind, we feel it is appropriate to limit the hours of operation of the premises in order to minimise the nuisance,” it says.
Canford Cliffs ward Cllr May Haines says: “I feel strongly that the licence holder has shown no regard for the fact that the restaurant is set within a primarily residential area.
“It appears that little or no consideration has been given to neighbours.”
Mr Jeandren, was not available for comment at the company’s registered address, a house in Lilliput, or on either of its telephone numbers.
Comments(24)
Dibbles2
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10:50am Sun 8 Jul 12
pooleres
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11:20am Sun 8 Jul 12
alasdair1967 wrote:Its not a pub, its a bistro situated in a row of shops, and it only opened fairly recently.
This annoys me I'm sorry but when you bought or rented your property did you not realise that you where buying next to a pub no sympathy whatsoever for people who move in then complain
I don't expect the majority of residents expected to find themselves living close to a bar in this location when they bought (or rented) their properties.
cleanery
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11:25am Sun 8 Jul 12
Dibbles2 wrote:NEVER!!! read the article before you post stupid comments we will think you are a mad woman.
I hasten to add that it has been closed for months.
alasdair1967
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11:28am Sun 8 Jul 12
Talkingheadera
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12:02pm Sun 8 Jul 12
And they whine when they move near a football ground that's been there for a hundred years.
People expect peace 24 hours a day.
Baywolf
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12:15pm Sun 8 Jul 12
alasdair1967 wrote:That's the point. Licensed premisses are given the go ahead regardless of the residents, I think you would object if the council granted a nightclub next to you. Entertainment venues are important but with control and a little bit of common sense they should not be allowed to become a local residents nightmare.
But people do whine if you live near a licensed premise you are going to get noise associated with that premise even more so since the introduction of the smoking ban
elite50
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12:36pm Sun 8 Jul 12
If you start at 7p.m. you can do it quite comfortably by 10 p.m.
I know, I used to do it regularly 40 years ago!
The only reason these stupid hours exist is because a few people want to make a few extra quid.
It just seems strange that the whole world suddenly finds a need to live like bats!
Capricorn 1
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3:03pm Sun 8 Jul 12
It was great in the early years- I'd be off early in the morning and back latish so I didn't have to worry about parking. Also pubs used to close at 11pm in those days.
Then came Sunday trading and the High Street became as busy on a Sunday as any other day. I moved out ayear or two after that.
Thank goodness I did with this ridiculous 24/7 drink culture and boom in night clubs that we now have, much to the detriment of many living in previously peaceful locations.
doppleganger332
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3:30pm Sun 8 Jul 12
tricky1007
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4:54pm Sun 8 Jul 12
elite50 wrote:the bars make no extra money than they did all those years ago. just a silly idea trying to get us the continental way. Problem is people over here just drink to excess, you dont see many sober people out at 4am!! People now get plastered at home before coming out, if the bars still closed at sensible times people would come out earlier... simples
What makes it neccessary to stay out 'till 1a.m. to get drunk?
If you start at 7p.m. you can do it quite comfortably by 10 p.m.
I know, I used to do it regularly 40 years ago!
The only reason these stupid hours exist is because a few people want to make a few extra quid.
It just seems strange that the whole world suddenly finds a need to live like bats!
BigBadPhil
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6:34pm Sun 8 Jul 12
EGHH
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7:41pm Sun 8 Jul 12
Dibbles2
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10:35pm Sun 8 Jul 12
cleanery wrote:What is your problem that you feel the need to insult people that you dont even know? Is that in retaliation to your previous vile comment about another poster? You are disgusring and possibly have anger issues to boot?
Dibbles2 wrote:NEVER!!! read the article before you post stupid comments we will think you are a mad woman.
I hasten to add that it has been closed for months.
Rustyfootballer
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8:59am Mon 9 Jul 12
The Liberal
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9:00am Mon 9 Jul 12
Baywolf
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10:18am Mon 9 Jul 12
Rustyfootballer wrote:Spot on Rusty, Europe had all day drinking from year dot! And kids are raised with it with dinner and family dinners out. Our licensing was curtailed during WW1 to stop ammunitions workers getting wasted and never revoked till recently, subsequently the UK became party animals and with cheap booze on hand the like Europe experiment has failed at huge cost to the tax payers, the NHS, residents and individual health.
Agree with EGHH - Old licensing laws are the only way to go. We are extremists and it just gives everyone longer to drink more rather than gently sip wine in an european style. Its actually a nice restaurant at lunch time, strange that it has a character change at night.
HRH of Boscombe
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10:23am Mon 9 Jul 12
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I think the town centre should stay open as long as it likes but in quieter areas residents should be considered and 12:00 is probably more appropriate.
elite50
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10:35am Mon 9 Jul 12
HRH of Boscombe wrote:I know when the war ended, I was getting bombed by people in planes a few years earlier.
elite50 the war ended long ago and we don't need to worry about drunk munition workers these days. . I think the town centre should stay open as long as it likes but in quieter areas residents should be considered and 12:00 is probably more appropriate.
I did not mention munitions workers however.
HRH of Boscombe
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11:33am Mon 9 Jul 12
elite50
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11:41am Mon 9 Jul 12
chrspeters
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6:52pm Mon 9 Jul 12
People have resided in many now affected areas long before this stupid law was created and bounteous new establishments were created. A good few have since left, including myself.
Those who disagree, put yourself in their position. On a Saturday night, you go to your nearest haunt and along with many others, cause drunken mayhem to local residents, then about 4 or 5am, you return to your home on the outskirts of town within some leafy area.
As you lay in your pit till around 2pm with a busting head, you hear loud heavy music from a nearby garden. They are having a noisy party with beer and barbeques and it never seems to end, even though it may be four the following morning.
Especially if you have to be up early that Monday morning.
How you gonna feel?
Like you want to complain or hope somebody else does. Or more like the residents people like you constantly give harassment to twenty-four hour seven ever since this so stupid law was allowed.
I never understood this ‘Continental’ excuse for creating twenty four hour binge nights. During that time from the early nineties when it first began, I lived in Hamburg, Germany for ten years. They never had that. Most Germans drank at home and I could rarely find a drinking venue as we have scattered all over UK today. Most drinking places were small and subtle. They had no opening times, let alone closing. Some days, they never even opened at all and they certainly did not remain open until the early hours of the morning. I would not mind betting that it is the very same with France and Italy. Only Spain might be different, simply because it is us Brits that brought that culture to them. Just like they also now have fish n’ chips shops.
So it is not a Continental thing, but a British idea started by the likes of Blair. And again, even in Spain, brings nothing but sadness and deprivation to all those concerned.
I agree with many above comments. End this law on twenty-four hour binge drinking now!
Christine
Dora77
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9:45pm Mon 9 Jul 12
There is absolutely no need for it and it has no relevance whatsoever.
How about you just let the family get on with their lives instead of bringing the sad death of a young girl into every story you get the chance to for next few months!
Mike Pickering
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11:34pm Mon 9 Jul 12
alasdair1967 says...
10:03am Sun 8 Jul 12