Jailed: the Dorset drug dealers who flooded area with cocaine (From Thisisdorset)

Very well done,by the Police.Carry on there is a lot more out there,and even bigger "bosses".

the criminality connected with cocaine in this country is only one half of the story- don't forget that users and dealers are creating demand that is ruining lives and destroying the environment back in supply countries in South America.

These were relatively minor players and I suspect the supply chain was restored within a couple of days.

The bigger "bosses" referred to in the post above lead a "protected" existence and are never brought to trial.

Many years ago a certain "gentleman"used to hang around town in his Rolls Royce,collecting his share from the dealers,often around the Triangle.

So maximum 10 years so we look at 4 max ...seriously? And they want to know why there is a drug problem. The law is an utter ****! Prison sentencing is lenient to the point of making a crime legal! Some poor lass was killed by an uninsured driver on drugs and was given just a pathetic 8 weeks.

As a pharmacist I had to study for four and a half years (as well as A level physics biology & chemistry), yet these people were cutting the cocaine with other (poisonous) chemicals ready for distribution, with the end user unaware of what substances were in it & what quantities they were taking. This is quite frightening and one of the reasons why most class A drugs should be legalised.

Why bother with prison. Drop them down a disused mine shaft head first.

Well done to the police for catching them all! Keep up the good work. And I might also agree with the dropping them down the mine shaft a little bit...prison isn't enough of a deterrant these days, clearly!

Oldalbanian wrote:
These were relatively minor players and I suspect the supply chain was restored within a couple of days.

The bigger "bosses" referred to in the post above lead a "protected" existence and are never brought to trial.

Sadly what you say is true.

People often like to justify lenient sentences given by judges by claiming that they are restricted in the sentences that they are allowed to give.
According to the Home Office website, the sentence for dealing in Class A drugs is up to a life sentence and an unlimited fine OR BOTH.
None of these scumbags have been given a sentence anything close to this. Indeed, the sentences for all 10 combined barely amounts to a true life sentence!
Could we be advised as to what is happening, or has happened to the proceeds of crime obtained by these villains? They all seem to have continued to have lived a comfortable lifestyle on their ill-gotten gains.
Well done to the Police for persevering in the face of such near pointless end results.

lisa401 wrote:
As a pharmacist I had to study for four and a half years (as well as A level physics biology & chemistry), yet these people were cutting the cocaine with other (poisonous) chemicals ready for distribution, with the end user unaware of what substances were in it & what quantities they were taking. This is quite frightening and one of the reasons why most class A drugs should be legalised.

I've argued about legalising drugs in order to pull the rug from under the feet of criminals.

The current system is a godsend to criminals.

John T - I would guess that one of the reasons the story was not published earlier was to enable the "recovery of proceeds of crime". Now the Local Echo Office may not have the contacts or the staff to properly follow up on the Court's proceedings...as they used to. 'Tiz rare for any Court case to have it's progress reported in any detail anywhere these days. The Echo just publishes what it thinks will "sell" it's rag... sorry, paper.

Capricorn 1 wrote:

lisa401 wrote: As a pharmacist I had to study for four and a half years (as well as A level physics biology & chemistry), yet these people were cutting the cocaine with other (poisonous) chemicals ready for distribution, with the end user unaware of what substances were in it & what quantities they were taking. This is quite frightening and one of the reasons why most class A drugs should be legalised.

I've argued about legalising drugs in order to pull the rug from under the feet of criminals. The current system is a godsend to criminals.

And don't you realise that legalising drugs will lead to more driving and other offences being committed under the influence of drugs.
I guess you would also argue that an 8 week sentence is quite alright for a driver under the influence of cannabis who killed a young girl.

as regards to sentencing i think most people in the country feel sentences are to low for serious crime and the police do a great job on are behalf as this cxase shows there seems to be so many problems with criminals and the politicians and judges let the hard working tax paying public down but for me the sad thing is we can do nothing about it voting is just a ruse uised by bent politicians to dupe us into thinking we live in a wonderful democracy as someone once said if allowing people to vote changed anything they wouldnt allow it all of us just have to put up with what corrupt politicians foist upon us

Alwaya nice to see a bunch of scumbags get what they deserve. I hope their time inside is a truly terrible experience for all of them.

A more fitting punishment for these criminals would be if they had to generate electricity using their own muscle power for the period of their sentence. It would solve two problems at once and minimise re-offending rates!

John T wrote:

Capricorn 1 wrote:

lisa401 wrote: As a pharmacist I had to study for four and a half years (as well as A level physics biology & chemistry), yet these people were cutting the cocaine with other (poisonous) chemicals ready for distribution, with the end user unaware of what substances were in it & what quantities they were taking. This is quite frightening and one of the reasons why most class A drugs should be legalised.

I've argued about legalising drugs in order to pull the rug from under the feet of criminals. The current system is a godsend to criminals.

And don't you realise that legalising drugs will lead to more driving and other offences being committed under the influence of drugs.
I guess you would also argue that an 8 week sentence is quite alright for a driver under the influence of cannabis who killed a young girl.

Of course 8 weeks is not enough.

The problem with (class A&B) drugs being illegal is that there is very little education about them and the risks of taking them. Both legal and illegal drugs carry risks, however a doctor would not prescribe medication that was unsuitable for someone or has contraindications, and pharmaceutical companies do not put toxic substances into them to 'bulk them out' and make more money!

If they were legalised it would have to become a serious offence to drive whilst under the influence - just as drink driving is now. Legalisation is not ideal but I think it's the only answer.

Wouldn't a fitting punishment be to give them all a dose of their own medicine over a protracted period of time then keep them locked up for life... minus supplies?

lisa401 wrote:
As a pharmacist I had to study for four and a half years (as well as A level physics biology & chemistry), yet these people were cutting the cocaine with other (poisonous) chemicals ready for distribution, with the end user unaware of what substances were in it & what quantities they were taking. This is quite frightening and one of the reasons why most class A drugs should be legalised.

Well said. Good on ya...

Justin666 wrote:
Wouldn't a fitting punishment be to give them all a dose of their own medicine over a protracted period of time then keep them locked up for life... minus supplies?

As the devil in disguise, would it not be Just in your line to administer this?!

Well done Police, shame you are let down by a justice system that hands out far too lenient penalties. They should have all been jailed for a minimum of 25 years each.
Drugs, prostitution, counterfeit goods, people trafficking, terrorism are all connected through organised crime.
Some stats 80% of UK's Heroin and 90% of worlds Heroin originates from Helmand Province in Afghanistan, therefore anyone involved in drugs is indirectly helping to supply the Taliban and other insurgents with funds to kill British and Coalition Forces and innocent civilians. The insurgents will threaten local farmers including death threats against their families to ensure they get their cut. It is a shame that the media does not expose these links.

John T wrote:

Justin666 wrote:
Wouldn't a fitting punishment be to give them all a dose of their own medicine over a protracted period of time then keep them locked up for life... minus supplies?

As the devil in disguise, would it not be Just in your line to administer this?!

Would love to administer this and would ensure using a blunt and much used needle picked up randomely in the park.

And I would happily be devil's advocate to ensure fair play.

John T wrote:

Capricorn 1 wrote:

lisa401 wrote: As a pharmacist I had to study for four and a half years (as well as A level physics biology & chemistry), yet these people were cutting the cocaine with other (poisonous) chemicals ready for distribution, with the end user unaware of what substances were in it & what quantities they were taking. This is quite frightening and one of the reasons why most class A drugs should be legalised.

I've argued about legalising drugs in order to pull the rug from under the feet of criminals. The current system is a godsend to criminals.

And don't you realise that legalising drugs will lead to more driving and other offences being committed under the influence of drugs.
I guess you would also argue that an 8 week sentence is quite alright for a driver under the influence of cannabis who killed a young girl.

To John T- let me make it perfectly clear that when I say that I would want to see these drugs legalised I am referring to a situation whereby drug addicts could get these drugs from legalised sources.

This would be a way of treatment and eventual weaning off of these drugs.

It would be aimed at preventing a situation that we have whereby drug users are going through criminals, and often committing crimes themselves in order to fund their habit.

This could be combined with introducing far greater penalties for anyone supplying or obtaining drugs via illegal means.

If someone killed a young girl while under the influence of anything I'd be quite happy for them to rot.

I'm interested in a means of removing the drug supply from criminals- destroying their market.

I abhor drug use but the current system of dealing with this problem is a failure.

What strikes me is that the are all older white males which breaks the Tabloid stereotype of the pusher.

Justin666 wrote:

John T wrote:

Justin666 wrote:
Wouldn't a fitting punishment be to give them all a dose of their own medicine over a protracted period of time then keep them locked up for life... minus supplies?

As the devil in disguise, would it not be Just in your line to administer this?!

Would love to administer this and would ensure using a blunt and much used needle picked up randomely in the park.

You "would love to administer this"? Not really a righteous warrior of social justice are you? You are just a sadistic and depraved individual with fantasies about torturing people. Whatever your opinions on drugs and drug dealers are this is disgraceful when you actually stop your knee jerking for a minute and actually think about what you are proposing and how this would actually be achieved. I find people like you much more worrying than the people in this article. I hate to use the cliche but you are the exact sort of people that would be volunteering for the Einsatzgruppen (look it up) had you been born a few decades earlier and somewhere around Germany.

AdamSFC wrote:

Justin666 wrote:

John T wrote:

Justin666 wrote:
Wouldn't a fitting punishment be to give them all a dose of their own medicine over a protracted period of time then keep them locked up for life... minus supplies?

As the devil in disguise, would it not be Just in your line to administer this?!

Would love to administer this and would ensure using a blunt and much used needle picked up randomely in the park.

You "would love to administer this"? Not really a righteous warrior of social justice are you? You are just a sadistic and depraved individual with fantasies about torturing people. Whatever your opinions on drugs and drug dealers are this is disgraceful when you actually stop your knee jerking for a minute and actually think about what you are proposing and how this would actually be achieved. I find people like you much more worrying than the people in this article. I hate to use the cliche but you are the exact sort of people that would be volunteering for the Einsatzgruppen (look it up) had you been born a few decades earlier and somewhere around Germany.

I take it that the the 'social justice' you refer to is working. With a 50% (conservative estimate) of re-offenders I think you had better come up with something a little better than your diatribe. I also think that you may need to adjust your thinking if you really believe that the Devil is to be taken seriously in his extreme views. Suggest a little growing up may do you some good. I look forward to seeing a more positive comment from you demonstrating your grasp of the problem and conceivably offering some solutions as others have done. Perhaps I ask too much. I do not have to look up Einsatzgruppen as I helped form it.

Einsatzgruppen,is it a split off from the WI.

pete woodley wrote:
Many years ago a certain "gentleman"used to hang around town in his Rolls Royce,collecting his share from the dealers,often around the Triangle.

Who would that be then? anyone we know? at least tell us his initials....

you would not know unless you worked for him,did you ?.

pete woodley wrote:
you would not know unless you worked for him,did you ?.

no.... thats why I asked for a clue.... is he now a sandbanks resident?

To be honest,i do not know but could be as was well in with the local gentry.

pete woodley wrote:
Very well done,by the Police.Carry on there is a lot more out there,and even bigger "bosses".

I agree totally, with this comment, well done police and there are plenty more that should be locked up. Every time I read these echo reports, I keep my fingers crossed, that one thug, I had the unpleasent experience of working with is put behind bars (where he used to be and belongs forever). I heard he hides his stash in those green electrical boxes that are on the pavements, so please police use the sniffer dogs and clamp down on these dangerous animals who have no respect for anyone in society and think they can get away with it

In my youth in 70s a certain member of the aristocracy used to go to the hippie camp at Stonehenge in his chauffeur driven Rolls-Royce to supply "African smoking mixture" to the hippies there. His position kept him from being nicked by the local law. I was told this by several of the residents whom I'd meet at the free festivals at the Stones.

Lets just hope that the Police keep a strict operation going. A focus on Boscombe/Pokesdown would be a good start but as well as puting the local suppliers away ,I hope this is follwed up the chain to the main importers and finding out how easily they manage to get such huge supplies into the country. I just hope the massive amounts of money they have to hand doesn't bring them immunity!!!
Pity the billions spent in Afghanistan isn't used to eradicate the poppy fields, or at worse,buying the crop,keeping enough for medical purposes and destroying the rest. Never understood with satellite cameras why the fields aren't spotted and burnt. The billions spent could then be used to help the population in many useful areas,health,educati
on,sanitation and farming a crop that doesn't bring death and destruction to themselves and families throughout the world.

Putting drug dealers in prison doesn't stop them dealing, they'll be free to deal to the people in prison! Prisons are far from drug free environments, Countries gone mad. But I'd rather they were poisoning low lifes like themselves.

Gastines2 wrote:
Lets just hope that the Police keep a strict operation going. A focus on Boscombe/Pokesdown would be a good start but as well as puting the local suppliers away ,I hope this is follwed up the chain to the main importers and finding out how easily they manage to get such huge supplies into the country. I just hope the massive amounts of money they have to hand doesn't bring them immunity!!!
Pity the billions spent in Afghanistan isn't used to eradicate the poppy fields, or at worse,buying the crop,keeping enough for medical purposes and destroying the rest. Never understood with satellite cameras why the fields aren't spotted and burnt. The billions spent could then be used to help the population in many useful areas,health,educati

on,sanitation and farming a crop that doesn't bring death and destruction to themselves and families throughout the world.

The Taliban pretty much put a stop to the production of heroin in Afghanistan.

Poppy cultivation increased after the US led invasion.

Gastines2,Are you forgetting that Pokesdown is a enterprising rejuvenated area,real vintage,so they say.Its the in place.

There is an associate of these people that lives in Boscombe and he is well at it, dealing class A.I have told the Police but he seems to get away with it, it did a few years at Her Majesty pleasure now he brags he will never get caught !!!!

lisa401 is Glucose powder really such a dangerous chemical?
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As a pharmacist with so much study behind you aren't you aware of the most common cutting agent?

That's assuming that that is what they are using as a cutting agent.

It doesn't come with an ingredients list!

It doesn't come with a health warning either!

This has been a very interesting thread to read.

First, a pat on the back for our Police for bringing these low-life to court. I have always respected the majority of our British Police, just like I do our Armed Forces. However, as has been said earlier, our British Judges have not only let them down them many times, but also us good citizens.

This is not only the case for drug offenders but for many other serious offences right across the spectrum where the perpetrator is often given what has now been long coined as, 'A Slap on the Wrist!'

Maybe its time for the rules to be changed. Instead of old stuffy boring Judges, who don't live in the real world, giving out sentences – it should be left to the Jury (who often do), to decide what is proper, fitting and more as a real punishment. If twelve honest people can decide on guilt or not, I feel sure that they can also determine what is a 'fair' punishment for the person before them, taking in all things including their known previous record.

Today, it just seems to me that all a 'scallywag' has to do before appearing before the Beak, is wear a smart suit. Every regular criminal keeps one in their wardrobe for their own 'special' occasions and the Judges always soak it up!

Give them all an ASBO!!! LOL!

John T wrote:

Capricorn 1 wrote:

lisa401 wrote: As a pharmacist I had to study for four and a half years (as well as A level physics biology & chemistry), yet these people were cutting the cocaine with other (poisonous) chemicals ready for distribution, with the end user unaware of what substances were in it & what quantities they were taking. This is quite frightening and one of the reasons why most class A drugs should be legalised.

I've argued about legalising drugs in order to pull the rug from under the feet of criminals. The current system is a godsend to criminals.

And don't you realise that legalising drugs will lead to more driving and other offences being committed under the influence of drugs. I guess you would also argue that an 8 week sentence is quite alright for a driver under the influence of cannabis who killed a young girl.

Why?

When cannabis was reduced to a class C drug temporarily, its use went down. Legalisation doesn't necessarily mean that usage will go up.

If drugs are legal then people don't become criminals simply by wanting to take them. Is there something so wrong in wanting to snort a few lines of cocaine occasionally? I'm not sure why it's considered so different to alchohol. Both have pernicious effects, but one is illegal and the other not. And MDMA has very few downsides in health or social terms, especially when compared to tobacco or alchohol, and yet it's a class A drug. We are involving a large swathe of the population in crime by making their drug of choice illegal. If they were legal, then you could buy them from licensed premises, and it would all be a lot more civilised.

If that scenario is so wrong then we should probably be stringing up pub landlords.

Justin666 wrote:

AdamSFC wrote:

Justin666 wrote:

John T wrote:

Justin666 wrote:
Wouldn't a fitting punishment be to give them all a dose of their own medicine over a protracted period of time then keep them locked up for life... minus supplies?

As the devil in disguise, would it not be Just in your line to administer this?!

Would love to administer this and would ensure using a blunt and much used needle picked up randomely in the park.

You "would love to administer this"? Not really a righteous warrior of social justice are you? You are just a sadistic and depraved individual with fantasies about torturing people. Whatever your opinions on drugs and drug dealers are this is disgraceful when you actually stop your knee jerking for a minute and actually think about what you are proposing and how this would actually be achieved. I find people like you much more worrying than the people in this article. I hate to use the cliche but you are the exact sort of people that would be volunteering for the Einsatzgruppen (look it up) had you been born a few decades earlier and somewhere around Germany.

I take it that the the 'social justice' you refer to is working. With a 50% (conservative estimate) of re-offenders I think you had better come up with something a little better than your diatribe. I also think that you may need to adjust your thinking if you really believe that the Devil is to be taken seriously in his extreme views. Suggest a little growing up may do you some good. I look forward to seeing a more positive comment from you demonstrating your grasp of the problem and conceivably offering some solutions as others have done. Perhaps I ask too much. I do not have to look up Einsatzgruppen as I helped form it.

You helped form the SS paramilitary death squads?

Really?

I hate what they did, but I feel sorry to the families that are stuck with the horror. Some didn't know what happened, until their husband/family member was taken to prison. The children of the men, must have been horrified to see their fathers names or faces spread across the newspaper. I know these men have done terrible acts of crime, but I feel that the mens family's shouldn't have to know if people want those people to be dead. Those men are in prison and probably can't see what people are saying on the internet, but their familys do. A little bit of disgression would be nice, personally I think these men should get punished but I wouldn't go right out and say ' Why bother with prison. Just drop them down a disused mine shaft head first

I hate what they did, but I feel sorry to the families that are stuck with the horror. Some didn't know what happened, until their husband/family member was taken to prison. The children of the men, must have been horrified to see their fathers names or faces spread across the newspaper. I know these men have done terrible acts of crime, but I feel that the mens family's shouldn't have to know if people want those people to be dead. Those men are in prison and probably can't see what people are saying on the internet, but their familys do. A little bit of disgression would be nice, personally I think these men should get punished but I wouldn't go right out and say ' Why bother with prison. Just drop them down a disused mine shaft head first