Emily Longley trial: "All Talk Turner", the cash-rich thug who thought he was a celebrity (From Thisisdorset)

'The Firm' what an utter moron, too much silver spoon and not enough wooden shoe.

Mummy won't be able to protect you from a proper firm whilst you're on the inside.

He always was a complete twonk, even as a school kid. And to be honest, he parents weren't anywhere loaded to the extent they pretended to be, or to the level he told everyone - all BS and face and no substance. Let's face it, a £300k house in Queen's Park and his mum drives a Merc... and he drove a Mini. I mean, behave and learn some proper respect about 'rich' levels in this day and age.

'the firm' it would appear is insolvent, rot in prison you maggot

I don't know the guy but I hate him for what he has done

300k bungalow in Queens Park thats a starter home for that area.

I know this is nothing to do with this exactly but what I found worrying during the trial was the fact poor Emily was constantly going into bars at the age of 17 and I assume drinking alcohol - these bars need to be warned or closed down if they are breaking the law - a woman of 33 got barred from a Bournemouth bar the other day and yet these Sandbanks & Canford Cliffs bars are flouting the law.

What has always facinated me about this town is the few hundred real rich kids in the Sandbanks/Lilliput area and then the thousands of wannabees taking out huge loans etc for BMWs, number plates, designer sunglasses and gelled hair etc. to emulate them. The whole object is to 'pose.' Dorset has had this type of tosseur for as long as I can remember. In my experience, hardly a brain cell between them and they treat women as just another possession. Deluded, immature and detached fantasists. Shame this one has gone on to murder a lovely normal girl with everything going for her.

Reg TW wrote:
I know this is nothing to do with this exactly but what I found worrying during the trial was the fact poor Emily was constantly going into bars at the age of 17 and I assume drinking alcohol - these bars need to be warned or closed down if they are breaking the law - a woman of 33 got barred from a Bournemouth bar the other day and yet these Sandbanks & Canford Cliffs bars are flouting the law.

As a cabbie i take these young girls to these places all the time and they are never checked on the door ,Emily - thoroughly sophisticated,who would see her as 17 years old? These girls are streetwise but dont spot slugs like turner creeping up on them . He certainly isnt the only one out there. Correct to say that these bars should be penalised and closed for their lack of responsibility , no valid ID no entry its not difficult but they are big income for these places and thats why they turn a blind eye . This time it unravelled in no small way and cost this this loverly young girl her life and people like Turner are there looking for these girls to manipulate - believe me - in this respect nothing has changed,it is now as it was on Emilys last night alive , i see it all the time and it infuriates me .
i hope his parents also get a serious sentence for encouraging his deciept ,what compassion did they have for this girl over their worthless son

Sadly this is sensationalism by the newspapers.
At the heart of this a young girl has DIED.
Now all the papers are interested in is sensationalising the story, with headlines of Cocaine, Rich Spoilt Brat etc
The guy was not rich, he was a wannabe who drove a Mini. His parents lived in a modest Queens Park home.
Lets see a story on Police investigate underage drinking at Cafe Shore, Bella Rosa and Klute just some on the venues that have been mentioned in a Murder case and proved that they had been serving drinks to a 17 year old minor.
Oh sorry silly me that wont sell papers will it!

Don of 'The Firm' and drives a Mini If someone hadn't have died this guy would be really funny.
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His bragging will cost him dearly though.
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Every other con will be out to get him for money and the gangs will want to kill the trophey head of his gang that doesn't really exist!

Unfortunately if you go to Ashley Cross of an evening there are many carbon copies of this ignorant abusive bellend there.

Women need to be more aware of Narcissistic personality disorder and contact Police at the first sign of abuse.

The Police have actually been very helpful in the cases that I know of.

Well done to the Police, witnesses and everyone connected with the prosecution of this case. Rest assured that Turner will have to face some rough justice inside and for that matter so should his parents when they are sentenced. What a disgraceful, selfish and disfunctional family. I can only wish them the very worst !

Yes well done the police, the Echo and the judicial system.

Poor Emily what a tragedy... and the Turner family protected themselves by a lie till the end. They appeared to show no remorse especially Elliot. What did he think would happen? Why did he have such a massive ego?

Nothing can bring Emily back sadly but we must be on our guard in public place for abuse against women especially. I can't believe all this happened in Sandbanks and Canford Cliffs. I only wish I could have jumped in my car and rescued her... A beautiful young girl on the brink of life. RIP

He'll be known as "Welly Top Turner" after a few weeks inside. Another mummy's boy, but at least he's off the streets, for a while.

wallydown wrote:

Reg TW wrote: I know this is nothing to do with this exactly but what I found worrying during the trial was the fact poor Emily was constantly going into bars at the age of 17 and I assume drinking alcohol - these bars need to be warned or closed down if they are breaking the law - a woman of 33 got barred from a Bournemouth bar the other day and yet these Sandbanks & Canford Cliffs bars are flouting the law.

As a cabbie i take these young girls to these places all the time and they are never checked on the door ,Emily - thoroughly sophisticated,who would see her as 17 years old? These girls are streetwise but dont spot slugs like turner creeping up on them . He certainly isnt the only one out there. Correct to say that these bars should be penalised and closed for their lack of responsibility , no valid ID no entry its not difficult but they are big income for these places and thats why they turn a blind eye . This time it unravelled in no small way and cost this this loverly young girl her life and people like Turner are there looking for these girls to manipulate - believe me - in this respect nothing has changed,it is now as it was on Emilys last night alive , i see it all the time and it infuriates me . i hope his parents also get a serious sentence for encouraging his deciept ,what compassion did they have for this girl over their worthless son

I would of thought you would be after your next fare. Not watching them In the queue at the clubs. The door staff do check I'd all the time. Haven't you picked people up in the town to take them home for there id and take them back. I know I have loads of time.

Lets see a story on Police investigate underage drinking at Cafe Shore, Bella Rosa and Klute just some on the venues that have been mentioned in a Murder case and proved that they had been serving drinks to a 17 year old minor.

At many pubs, people under the age of 18 are allowed to enter and since Cafe Shore and Bella Rosa serve food, a 16 or 17 year old can order and drink beer, wine or cider with a meal if they are with someone over 18. I am not sure if they would be allowed to order vodka or vodka and tonic.

According to direct.gov.uk:

"Once you reach 14, you’re allowed to go anywhere in a pub, but you won’t be able to buy any alcohol."

"16 and 17-year-olds can order and drink beer, wine or cider with a meal at a restaurant or pub where food is served. You can only do this if there is an adult with you."

Source: http://bit.ly/KJKu1x

Adrian XX wrote:

Lets see a story on Police investigate underage drinking at Cafe Shore, Bella Rosa and Klute just some on the venues that have been mentioned in a Murder case and proved that they had been serving drinks to a 17 year old minor.

At many pubs, people under the age of 18 are allowed to enter and since Cafe Shore and Bella Rosa serve food, a 16 or 17 year old can order and drink beer, wine or cider with a meal if they are with someone over 18. I am not sure if they would be allowed to order vodka or vodka and tonic.

According to direct.gov.uk:

"Once you reach 14, you’re allowed to go anywhere in a pub, but you won’t be able to buy any alcohol."

"16 and 17-year-olds can order and drink beer, wine or cider with a meal at a restaurant or pub where food is served. You can only do this if there is an adult with you."

Source: http://bit.ly/KJKu1x

Lol exactly. I did the licensing examination 12, 13yrs ago.
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The one I remember was about being able to serve a 5yr old under certain conditions in a hotel.

I hope this pathetic little man spends 16 years finding out what's really 'firm' in prison and can't sit down a day without pain.

Couchy125 wrote:

wallydown wrote:

Reg TW wrote: I know this is nothing to do with this exactly but what I found worrying during the trial was the fact poor Emily was constantly going into bars at the age of 17 and I assume drinking alcohol - these bars need to be warned or closed down if they are breaking the law - a woman of 33 got barred from a Bournemouth bar the other day and yet these Sandbanks & Canford Cliffs bars are flouting the law.

As a cabbie i take these young girls to these places all the time and they are never checked on the door ,Emily - thoroughly sophisticated,who would see her as 17 years old? These girls are streetwise but dont spot slugs like turner creeping up on them . He certainly isnt the only one out there. Correct to say that these bars should be penalised and closed for their lack of responsibility , no valid ID no entry its not difficult but they are big income for these places and thats why they turn a blind eye . This time it unravelled in no small way and cost this this loverly young girl her life and people like Turner are there looking for these girls to manipulate - believe me - in this respect nothing has changed,it is now as it was on Emilys last night alive , i see it all the time and it infuriates me . i hope his parents also get a serious sentence for encouraging his deciept ,what compassion did they have for this girl over their worthless son

I would of thought you would be after your next fare. Not watching them In the queue at the clubs. The door staff do check I'd all the time. Haven't you picked people up in the town to take them home for there id and take them back. I know I have loads of time.

I wish you was right in every case but thats not so . You know as well as i do that there is a clic' of people who build friendships with doorstaff and are always just waved through with their friends its not policed at all and once you are a familiar face id is irrelevant. Turner will have been one of these toe-rags who's ID is a handshake and a £20 note. Door staff at Cafe Shore , ummmmmm !!

Couchy125 wrote:

wallydown wrote:

Reg TW wrote: I know this is nothing to do with this exactly but what I found worrying during the trial was the fact poor Emily was constantly going into bars at the age of 17 and I assume drinking alcohol - these bars need to be warned or closed down if they are breaking the law - a woman of 33 got barred from a Bournemouth bar the other day and yet these Sandbanks & Canford Cliffs bars are flouting the law.

As a cabbie i take these young girls to these places all the time and they are never checked on the door ,Emily - thoroughly sophisticated,who would see her as 17 years old? These girls are streetwise but dont spot slugs like turner creeping up on them . He certainly isnt the only one out there. Correct to say that these bars should be penalised and closed for their lack of responsibility , no valid ID no entry its not difficult but they are big income for these places and thats why they turn a blind eye . This time it unravelled in no small way and cost this this loverly young girl her life and people like Turner are there looking for these girls to manipulate - believe me - in this respect nothing has changed,it is now as it was on Emilys last night alive , i see it all the time and it infuriates me . i hope his parents also get a serious sentence for encouraging his deciept ,what compassion did they have for this girl over their worthless son

I would of thought you would be after your next fare. Not watching them In the queue at the clubs. The door staff do check I'd all the time. Haven't you picked people up in the town to take them home for there id and take them back. I know I have loads of time.

I wish you was right in every case but thats not so . You know as well as i do that there is a clic' of people who build friendships with doorstaff and are always just waved through with their friends its not policed at all and once you are a familiar face id is irrelevant. Turner will have been one of these toe-rags who's ID is a handshake and a £20 note. Door staff at Cafe Shore , ummmmmm !!

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
What has always facinated me about this town is the few hundred real rich kids in the Sandbanks/Lilliput area and then the thousands of wannabees taking out huge loans etc for BMWs, number plates, designer sunglasses and gelled hair etc. to emulate them. The whole object is to 'pose.' Dorset has had this type of tosseur for as long as I can remember. In my experience, hardly a brain cell between them and they treat women as just another possession. Deluded, immature and detached fantasists. Shame this one has gone on to murder a lovely normal girl with everything going for her.

Couldn't agree more. This boring 'alluding to the celebrity lifestyle' attitude is just plain laughable, and Turner is, indeed, one of those vacuous twonks who think people can't see through it. The Bournemouth and Poole area is littered with self-promoting egotists who think the road to fortune is all about partying and getting your face in the Society magazine, when in reality it is about hard work and building up a successful business to then enjoy the fruits of your labour. Turner is typical of that ilk; a spoilt Mummy's boy, who was given everything on a plate, and despite being placed into educational establishments that most kids would have died for, he squandered them because Daddy gave him a place in the firm, rather than making him complete his university studies. The 'parents' are pathetic and were repulsive to have lied for him. He's an ugly, repulsive murderer who's no 'harder' than the next little boy in line. He's the sort of egotistical bully who might think it all big and hard to knock women around, or worse in this case, but put him up against someone who he rubs up the wrong way and watch him get very big beats. I'm sure his fellow Category A inmates will be most amused to read of his opinion of their 'hostel' upbringings and how he looks down on them as low-lifes. For once in his pathetic life he might just learn a thing or two about the School of Hard Knocks. In the meantime, his brattish jealousy has ruined more than just one family. His parents now face time in the nick, and he leaves a younger brother on his own.
These ego-driven wannabees do not THINK about the consequences of their debt-induced lifestyle trying to be things they aren't, and hate losing 'face' as this case has shown.
As to this 'wealthy' tag, please give me a break. His grandparents were the millionaires behind the business, not him or his pushy parents. As pointed out by someone else on this forum, £350k bungalow is a starter home in Queen's Park, and he drives a ... yes, wait for it... a Mini. And if he goes around buying bottles of GG vodka for nearly £300 in clubs then he is an utter fool who knows nothing about money... by the case, it's about a tenth of that. As to snorting the rest of his 'wealth' (ha ha) up his nose, then good luck to him and I hope he chokes on the stuff; that'll end in one less self-labelled 'gangsta Don' to have to keep in jail at £300 per day to the taxpayer.

If they're so rich why have we had to pay for their absurd defence which never stood a chance?

Why did the trial take 4 weeks?

Why didn't the court bother to sit on Friday afternoons?

People, including a couple on the Jury, had sympathy for the parents. Their son is clearly a spoilt brat, and that's their fault. Hopefully they'll do a better job with his brother.

If the grandparents are the rich one's and still alive, maybe they should think about who they leave their money to.

I would imagine that the apple didn't fall far from the tree. How proud his parents must be. I just hope, despite having a younger son (don't know what age), that both parents get hefty sentences. You'd get done for failing to report a road accident, but delaying calling an ambulance, blatant and sustained covering-up and destroying of evidence, and all for such a scumbag. The proud parents obviously also felt they were above the law. I trust their business will feel the economic effects of public opinion. Even having murdered her, he continued to brag. It's come to something when your own defence lawyer describes you as "brash, flash, boastful, spoilt, volatile, obsessive, possessive and obsessed". And still he was surprised to be found guilty? Perhaps Emily's family might, with hindsight, reconsider their parenting role also, since she had a history of being 'fragile' and 'troubled'.

Adrian XX wrote:

Lets see a story on Police investigate underage drinking at Cafe Shore, Bella Rosa and Klute just some on the venues that have been mentioned in a Murder case and proved that they had been serving drinks to a 17 year old minor.

At many pubs, people under the age of 18 are allowed to enter and since Cafe Shore and Bella Rosa serve food, a 16 or 17 year old can order and drink beer, wine or cider with a meal if they are with someone over 18. I am not sure if they would be allowed to order vodka or vodka and tonic.

According to direct.gov.uk:

"Once you reach 14, you’re allowed to go anywhere in a pub, but you won’t be able to buy any alcohol."

"16 and 17-year-olds can order and drink beer, wine or cider with a meal at a restaurant or pub where food is served. You can only do this if there is an adult with you."

Source: http://bit.ly/KJKu1x

Cafe Shore is a nightclub masquerading as a restaurant ,no doubt frequented by a lot of the licencing board ,so dont kid yourselves that its going to change any time soon
as my dad used to say. ' life is like a sh*t sandwich. The more bread youve got .the less sh*t youve got to eat' - money does talk ,but they dont want you to know that otherwise they might have to mix with common people , i dont think anyone has explained licencing law to cafe shore

I hope that when he gets into general population in prison, he is made to become some real hard gangsta's **** and that he is passed around to fellow inmates for their pleasure. Maybe this wil teach him a lesson he deserves. I hope he does real "hard time" they should just hang him and be done with the low life scum.

Cafe Shore is a nightclub masquerading as a restaurant

What does that even mean? Cafe shore is very rarely open past midnight, does not have loud music, does not have dancing and is popular with a wide age range. It bears very little resemblance to what people commonly understand as a nightclub. If they serve an 17 year old alcohol with food, they will not be breaking the law.

Adrian XX wrote:

Cafe Shore is a nightclub masquerading as a restaurant

What does that even mean? Cafe shore is very rarely open past midnight, does not have loud music, does not have dancing and is popular with a wide age range. It bears very little resemblance to what people commonly understand as a nightclub. If they serve an 17 year old alcohol with food, they will not be breaking the law.

Yes, they can serve a 17-year-old alcohol WITH food (sat down in a designated seating area for food sales, not stood at the bar with a basket of chips), and ONLY IF that person is with another of 18 years or over.

Adrian XX wrote:

Cafe Shore is a nightclub masquerading as a restaurant

What does that even mean? Cafe shore is very rarely open past midnight, does not have loud music, does not have dancing and is popular with a wide age range. It bears very little resemblance to what people commonly understand as a nightclub. If they serve an 17 year old alcohol with food, they will not be breaking the law.

Well you see it any way you like but as a cabbie I know otherwise and take lots of people there and have done for lots of years. Selling spirits to drunken underage girls is not legal in any bar but there it is ignored- wouldnt want to put off wealthy plebs who will pay £300 for a bottle of anything if its got the right name on it ,Turner and the like are being taken to the cleaners but the girls who hang around them are just the worst of a bad bunch ,its all pretence but thats money for you ,cant buy love - oh yes you can ! I am sorry that this girl suffered at the hands of this man but some of them do engineer their own fate its only fun if they employ common sense because when they get it wrong ----- !

anonEmouse wrote:
I hope that when he gets into general population in prison, he is made to become some real hard gangsta's **** and that he is passed around to fellow inmates for their pleasure. Maybe this wil teach him a lesson he deserves. I hope he does real "hard time" they should just hang him and be done with the low life scum.

How does it come to the point that every crook is apparently gay.that all of a sudden Turner will be Mr Bigs boyfriend? Get real for crying out loud, if I were in prison for 50 years i couldnt fancy another bloke ,you have a very distorted view of how life is

Yes, they can serve a 17-year-old alcohol WITH food (sat down in a designated seating area for food sales, not stood at the bar with a basket of chips), and ONLY IF that person is with another of 18 years or over.

Where does the law actually state this? According to direct.gov.uk a 16 or 17 year old can be served 'at a restaurant or pub where food is served' - there is no mention of them having to sit down or stay away from the bar or be in a designated eating area or having to eat a certain type of food. In any case, at Cafe Shore, complete meals can be eaten throughout the premises including at the bar.

ONLY IF that person is with another of 18 years or over.

I don't think this is in dispute. In this case, Longley was with Turner who was over 18 at the time.

wallydown wrote:

anonEmouse wrote:
I hope that when he gets into general population in prison, he is made to become some real hard gangsta's **** and that he is passed around to fellow inmates for their pleasure. Maybe this wil teach him a lesson he deserves. I hope he does real "hard time" they should just hang him and be done with the low life scum.

How does it come to the point that every crook is apparently gay.that all of a sudden Turner will be Mr Bigs boyfriend? Get real for crying out loud, if I were in prison for 50 years i couldnt fancy another bloke ,you have a very distorted view of how life is

Wally down said:How does it come to the point that every crook is apparently gay.that all of a sudden Turner will be Mr Bigs boyfriend? Get real for crying out loud, if I were in prison for 50 years i couldnt fancy another bloke ,you have a very distorted view of how life is

I did not mention or imply that every crook is gay, you need to "get real" I said that I hope they make him his b i t c h, which is another way of saying slave or servant, its just your mind that led you to think that!! or is it the case that he who denies something so vehemently has something to hide!! Tinged with a touch of guilt maybe!! lol

But I think you will find that if ever you did go to prison or maybe you have, that homosexuality is rife especially amongst long term prisoners. And you may not fancy another man but that does not mean other prisoners will not force themselves on you! It doesn't mean they are "gay" its just that there are no other options for sexual contact. I studied psychology and part of my degree course was on criminal psychology. So I do not have a distorted view on how life is, it sounds to me you are extremely naive.

anonEmouse wrote:

wallydown wrote:

anonEmouse wrote:
I hope that when he gets into general population in prison, he is made to become some real hard gangsta's **** and that he is passed around to fellow inmates for their pleasure. Maybe this wil teach him a lesson he deserves. I hope he does real "hard time" they should just hang him and be done with the low life scum.

How does it come to the point that every crook is apparently gay.that all of a sudden Turner will be Mr Bigs boyfriend? Get real for crying out loud, if I were in prison for 50 years i couldnt fancy another bloke ,you have a very distorted view of how life is

Wally down said:How does it come to the point that every crook is apparently gay.that all of a sudden Turner will be Mr Bigs boyfriend? Get real for crying out loud, if I were in prison for 50 years i couldnt fancy another bloke ,you have a very distorted view of how life is

I did not mention or imply that every crook is gay, you need to "get real" I said that I hope they make him his b i t c h, which is another way of saying slave or servant, its just your mind that led you to think that!! or is it the case that he who denies something so vehemently has something to hide!! Tinged with a touch of guilt maybe!! lol

But I think you will find that if ever you did go to prison or maybe you have, that homosexuality is rife especially amongst long term prisoners. And you may not fancy another man but that does not mean other prisoners will not force themselves on you! It doesn't mean they are "gay" its just that there are no other options for sexual contact. I studied psychology and part of my degree course was on criminal psychology. So I do not have a distorted view on how life is, it sounds to me you are extremely naive.

You studied criminal psychology,yeah right and you still come up with the stupid conclusion that 'he could be passed around for other cons pleasure' ? what absolute nonsense is that? What 'pleasure' ,i read correctly what you wrote. This isnt the dark ages and you shouldnt believe everything you see on tv programmes or in films ,the reality is a pretty boring existance i would assume and judging other people when you are probably just as bad is probably not what cons do because they are hardly a moral crowd anyway

Wallydown are you the resident troll? as I see in other comment sections you flame people, Kind of shows what a mundane life you must have if this is what gives you your jolly's.

Who the hell are you to imply that I didn't study psychology.

Your post makes no sense you illiterate fool, please if you are going to try and flame me at least learn how to construct a paragraph with sentences and the correct punctuation and spaces. Try reading your posts before you hit the submit button.

Gesualdo wrote:
If they're so rich why have we had to pay for their absurd defence which never stood a chance?

Why did the trial take 4 weeks?

Why didn't the court bother to sit on Friday afternoons?

People, including a couple on the Jury, had sympathy for the parents. Their son is clearly a spoilt brat, and that's their fault. Hopefully they'll do a better job with his brother.

If the grandparents are the rich one's and still alive, maybe they should think about who they leave their money to.

Unless you were on the Jury then you should keep comments about them to yourself. Jurors make decisions based on the law and evidence presented to them not tabloid headlines! The jurors you're complaining about found Turner guilty by a majority of 12-0, don't fogret that!

How long should the trial have taken? I presume it was 4 weeks to allow ALL the evidence & witnesses to be seen??

R.I.P Emily x

wallydown wrote:

anonEmouse wrote:

wallydown wrote:

anonEmouse wrote:
I hope that when he gets into general population in prison, he is made to become some real hard gangsta's **** and that he is passed around to fellow inmates for their pleasure. Maybe this wil teach him a lesson he deserves. I hope he does real "hard time" they should just hang him and be done with the low life scum.

How does it come to the point that every crook is apparently gay.that all of a sudden Turner will be Mr Bigs boyfriend? Get real for crying out loud, if I were in prison for 50 years i couldnt fancy another bloke ,you have a very distorted view of how life is

Wally down said:How does it come to the point that every crook is apparently gay.that all of a sudden Turner will be Mr Bigs boyfriend? Get real for crying out loud, if I were in prison for 50 years i couldnt fancy another bloke ,you have a very distorted view of how life is

I did not mention or imply that every crook is gay, you need to "get real" I said that I hope they make him his b i t c h, which is another way of saying slave or servant, its just your mind that led you to think that!! or is it the case that he who denies something so vehemently has something to hide!! Tinged with a touch of guilt maybe!! lol

But I think you will find that if ever you did go to prison or maybe you have, that homosexuality is rife especially amongst long term prisoners. And you may not fancy another man but that does not mean other prisoners will not force themselves on you! It doesn't mean they are "gay" its just that there are no other options for sexual contact. I studied psychology and part of my degree course was on criminal psychology. So I do not have a distorted view on how life is, it sounds to me you are extremely naive.

You studied criminal psychology,yeah right and you still come up with the stupid conclusion that 'he could be passed around for other cons pleasure' ? what absolute nonsense is that? What 'pleasure' ,i read correctly what you wrote. This isnt the dark ages and you shouldnt believe everything you see on tv programmes or in films ,the reality is a pretty boring existance i would assume and judging other people when you are probably just as bad is probably not what cons do because they are hardly a moral crowd anyway

It looks as if someone (anonEmouse) has been watching too many TV crime dramas! You seem to have a skewed idea of what prison life entails. As Wallydown says, most of the inmates just want to get on with their lives, the last thing they need is to cause trouble otherwise they will lose remission and/or parole.

lisa401 wrote:

wallydown wrote:

anonEmouse wrote:

wallydown wrote:

anonEmouse wrote:
I hope that when he gets into general population in prison, he is made to become some real hard gangsta's **** and that he is passed around to fellow inmates for their pleasure. Maybe this wil teach him a lesson he deserves. I hope he does real "hard time" they should just hang him and be done with the low life scum.

How does it come to the point that every crook is apparently gay.that all of a sudden Turner will be Mr Bigs boyfriend? Get real for crying out loud, if I were in prison for 50 years i couldnt fancy another bloke ,you have a very distorted view of how life is

Wally down said:How does it come to the point that every crook is apparently gay.that all of a sudden Turner will be Mr Bigs boyfriend? Get real for crying out loud, if I were in prison for 50 years i couldnt fancy another bloke ,you have a very distorted view of how life is

I did not mention or imply that every crook is gay, you need to "get real" I said that I hope they make him his b i t c h, which is another way of saying slave or servant, its just your mind that led you to think that!! or is it the case that he who denies something so vehemently has something to hide!! Tinged with a touch of guilt maybe!! lol

But I think you will find that if ever you did go to prison or maybe you have, that homosexuality is rife especially amongst long term prisoners. And you may not fancy another man but that does not mean other prisoners will not force themselves on you! It doesn't mean they are "gay" its just that there are no other options for sexual contact. I studied psychology and part of my degree course was on criminal psychology. So I do not have a distorted view on how life is, it sounds to me you are extremely naive.

You studied criminal psychology,yeah right and you still come up with the stupid conclusion that 'he could be passed around for other cons pleasure' ? what absolute nonsense is that? What 'pleasure' ,i read correctly what you wrote. This isnt the dark ages and you shouldnt believe everything you see on tv programmes or in films ,the reality is a pretty boring existance i would assume and judging other people when you are probably just as bad is probably not what cons do because they are hardly a moral crowd anyway

It looks as if someone (anonEmouse) has been watching too many TV crime dramas! You seem to have a skewed idea of what prison life entails. As Wallydown says, most of the inmates just want to get on with their lives, the last thing they need is to cause trouble otherwise they will lose remission and/or parole.

Another troll, flaming people.

You must obviously be another consummate expert on prison life. Been there yourself have you? or know someone that has experienced life in a long term prison?

I would say until you have or can speak from experience please keep you inane comments to yourself.

There seems to be a few people on here that like to tell others how, what and why people do things, with no actual knowledge themselves. ie, me supposedly watching TV crime dramas.

It also takes away from the posts themselves as all I wanted to point out is that this low life scum who took that poor young girls life deserves some of his own medicine and hopefully he will get it where he is going.
So I would respectively point out that unless you have something constructive to say or an opinion about this thread, please stop flaming people. Can't you think of something original to say about the subject we all are posting about or are you some attention grabbing person with low self esteem, that feels they have to post something, even if it is utter drivel! Just to get a response from someone. Are you that lonely?

My thoughts and condolences go out to Emily's family and hope they can get some closure now.

lisa401 wrote:

wallydown wrote:

anonEmouse wrote:

wallydown wrote:

anonEmouse wrote:
I hope that when he gets into general population in prison, he is made to become some real hard gangsta's **** and that he is passed around to fellow inmates for their pleasure. Maybe this wil teach him a lesson he deserves. I hope he does real "hard time" they should just hang him and be done with the low life scum.

How does it come to the point that every crook is apparently gay.that all of a sudden Turner will be Mr Bigs boyfriend? Get real for crying out loud, if I were in prison for 50 years i couldnt fancy another bloke ,you have a very distorted view of how life is

Wally down said:How does it come to the point that every crook is apparently gay.that all of a sudden Turner will be Mr Bigs boyfriend? Get real for crying out loud, if I were in prison for 50 years i couldnt fancy another bloke ,you have a very distorted view of how life is

I did not mention or imply that every crook is gay, you need to "get real" I said that I hope they make him his b i t c h, which is another way of saying slave or servant, its just your mind that led you to think that!! or is it the case that he who denies something so vehemently has something to hide!! Tinged with a touch of guilt maybe!! lol

But I think you will find that if ever you did go to prison or maybe you have, that homosexuality is rife especially amongst long term prisoners. And you may not fancy another man but that does not mean other prisoners will not force themselves on you! It doesn't mean they are "gay" its just that there are no other options for sexual contact. I studied psychology and part of my degree course was on criminal psychology. So I do not have a distorted view on how life is, it sounds to me you are extremely naive.

You studied criminal psychology,yeah right and you still come up with the stupid conclusion that 'he could be passed around for other cons pleasure' ? what absolute nonsense is that? What 'pleasure' ,i read correctly what you wrote. This isnt the dark ages and you shouldnt believe everything you see on tv programmes or in films ,the reality is a pretty boring existance i would assume and judging other people when you are probably just as bad is probably not what cons do because they are hardly a moral crowd anyway

It looks as if someone (anonEmouse) has been watching too many TV crime dramas! You seem to have a skewed idea of what prison life entails. As Wallydown says, most of the inmates just want to get on with their lives, the last thing they need is to cause trouble otherwise they will lose remission and/or parole.

anonEmouse your knowledge is so shallow that you cant possibly have studied the subject ,even myself and lisa401 understand that prison in the uk is not a revenge based routine cons dont dish out punishment on behalf of society and what you think occurs, simply doesnt .yes I do know people who have been in prison and they agree its a doss and you will only have a problem if you upset someone but thats personal issues nothing to do with the crime

Wallydown you really are showing yourself to be a fool, fyi I most certainly did study the subject.
Perhaps if you had bothered to do any research before you spouted your big uneducated mouth off. You would have found out that the prisons ombudsman stated back in 2010 that and i quote "British jails are failing to investigate serious allegations of male rape" also, The Howard league for penal reform was also investigating male rape in uk prisons. Andrew Neilson assistant director of The Howard League said “As we jail more and more men for longer and longer, it is naive to suggest that rape is not part of the violence and tension that is endemic in our overpopulated prisons.”
So please, both of you, shut the hell up until you know what you are talking about.

Oh you read it somewhere .so what ,that makes you an expert does it. ?You just dont get it do you - where in this report are you mentioned then ? You havent said that you are qualified as a criminal psychologist ,anyone can study a subject but what does that produce ? Another brain dead oppinionated social worker. What job do you do?

anonEmouse wrote:
Wallydown you really are showing yourself to be a fool, fyi I most certainly did study the subject.
Perhaps if you had bothered to do any research before you spouted your big uneducated mouth off. You would have found out that the prisons ombudsman stated back in 2010 that and i quote "British jails are failing to investigate serious allegations of male rape" also, The Howard league for penal reform was also investigating male rape in uk prisons. Andrew Neilson assistant director of The Howard League said “As we jail more and more men for longer and longer, it is naive to suggest that rape is not part of the violence and tension that is endemic in our overpopulated prisons.”
So please, both of you, shut the hell up until you know what you are talking about.

You seem to have been rather busy Googling facts! You obviously have an interest in the subject of psychology and I respect that, but that does not make you an expert I'm afraid. I am a senior pharmacist but I don't profess to be an expert on drugs! Also, you seem to, for some unknown reason, enjoy insulting people. We are all free to hold an opinion about a subject, but that does not give you the right to insult others, or accuse others of being 'trolls' or 'flaming people' just because their opinions differ from those of your own.

You really are a troll, Wallydown,

Are you mentally challenged wallydown? or just plain stupid! As you cannot even spell. Or engage in a debate. I have never once said I am an expert. I said I studied psychology. What I do or what qualifications I have, have nothing what so ever to do with you or my original post. You try pick holes in what other people say and say they are wrong, but can only offer your opinion, with no back up at all. At least I backed up what i say. What are you saying by "Another brain dead opinionated (that is how you spell opinionated) social worker" You are showing yourself to be the uneducated opinionated fool. I presume you refer to what the Prison Ombudsman stated. Again you show your stupidity as the ombudsman is a body of people not one person.

You cannot even put forward a valid debate. You have failed, please do us all a favor and go and play your silly games elsewhere.
You have been bested, you fool.
End of debate.

Good night and good bye.

The Firm that everyone is talking about includes a few individuals including a user going by the name "Joe Freaks" who posted on the facebook page "elliot murder turner" at the start of this whole thing, simple google search brings up a gang photo of them, they should be all named and shamed for promoting such behaviour on our streets, spoilt rich kids do not get away with crime, and we should do something about it! Have a look and see if you recognise any of these lads!

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lisa401 wrote:

anonEmouse wrote:
Wallydown you really are showing yourself to be a fool, fyi I most certainly did study the subject.
Perhaps if you had bothered to do any research before you spouted your big uneducated mouth off. You would have found out that the prisons ombudsman stated back in 2010 that and i quote "British jails are failing to investigate serious allegations of male rape" also, The Howard league for penal reform was also investigating male rape in uk prisons. Andrew Neilson assistant director of The Howard League said “As we jail more and more men for longer and longer, it is naive to suggest that rape is not part of the violence and tension that is endemic in our overpopulated prisons.”
So please, both of you, shut the hell up until you know what you are talking about.

You seem to have been rather busy Googling facts! You obviously have an interest in the subject of psychology and I respect that, but that does not make you an expert I'm afraid. I am a senior pharmacist but I don't profess to be an expert on drugs! Also, you seem to, for some unknown reason, enjoy insulting people. We are all free to hold an opinion about a subject, but that does not give you the right to insult others, or accuse others of being 'trolls' or 'flaming people' just because their opinions differ from those of your own.

lisa401 please show where I have ever stated I am an "expert" I have not and do not profess to be. Please stick to facts, not supposition.
Maybe you need to read the posts, get glasses or refrain from taking your own product.

As I am sure if you read your post again you will see that you "butted" in, insulting me by saying I gained my opinion from inane TV dramas, which fyi I do not watch and your post was purely designed to try to belittle someone else and nowhere in the content of your post was anything to do with the subject being discussed ie, that vile monster who thought he was a gangsta and has subsequently been sentenced to spend 16 years in prison.
So yes I called you a troll and a flamer as that is what people are called that post in this manner. That is why i insulted you. And I stand by my comment. You obviously are a troll and a flamer.

If a Pharmacist does not consider herself an expert on drugs all I can say is I am glad you are not my Pharmacist. LOL Personally I have found pharmacist's to be far more knowledgeable than GP's and more often than not they could do a better job than most GP's can in diagnosing and treatments, or maybe I just have a great Pharmacist. LOL

Good night and good bye to you.

If the so called Firm are all like that J Arthur Ranker who may think there the Bizzo poncing around Canford Cliffs and Cafe Shore with the rest of the pretenders and posers there are some nice gentlemen from the outskirts of poole who i know would like to meet the Firm and have a chat about there so called status.As for Turner when the Lads in the nick read all about his Mouth boasting hel do 10 years and come out a millionaire il be surprised if he comes out at all,Welcome to the real World Tosser the Lads are waiting to greet you .

twew34 wrote:
The Firm that everyone is talking about includes a few individuals including a user going by the name "Joe Freaks" who posted on the facebook page "elliot murder turner" at the start of this whole thing, simple google search brings up a gang photo of them, they should be all named and shamed for promoting such behaviour on our streets, spoilt rich kids do not get away with crime, and we should do something about it! Have a look and see if you recognise any of these lads!

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Joe Freaks exists,suffice it to say that he had a fearful ex-girlfriend .no money and an attitude problem !!! Well spotted

anonEmouse wrote:

lisa401 wrote:

anonEmouse wrote:
Wallydown you really are showing yourself to be a fool, fyi I most certainly did study the subject.
Perhaps if you had bothered to do any research before you spouted your big uneducated mouth off. You would have found out that the prisons ombudsman stated back in 2010 that and i quote "British jails are failing to investigate serious allegations of male rape" also, The Howard league for penal reform was also investigating male rape in uk prisons. Andrew Neilson assistant director of The Howard League said “As we jail more and more men for longer and longer, it is naive to suggest that rape is not part of the violence and tension that is endemic in our overpopulated prisons.”
So please, both of you, shut the hell up until you know what you are talking about.

You seem to have been rather busy Googling facts! You obviously have an interest in the subject of psychology and I respect that, but that does not make you an expert I'm afraid. I am a senior pharmacist but I don't profess to be an expert on drugs! Also, you seem to, for some unknown reason, enjoy insulting people. We are all free to hold an opinion about a subject, but that does not give you the right to insult others, or accuse others of being 'trolls' or 'flaming people' just because their opinions differ from those of your own.

lisa401 please show where I have ever stated I am an "expert" I have not and do not profess to be. Please stick to facts, not supposition.
Maybe you need to read the posts, get glasses or refrain from taking your own product.

As I am sure if you read your post again you will see that you "butted" in, insulting me by saying I gained my opinion from inane TV dramas, which fyi I do not watch and your post was purely designed to try to belittle someone else and nowhere in the content of your post was anything to do with the subject being discussed ie, that vile monster who thought he was a gangsta and has subsequently been sentenced to spend 16 years in prison.
So yes I called you a troll and a flamer as that is what people are called that post in this manner. That is why i insulted you. And I stand by my comment. You obviously are a troll and a flamer.

If a Pharmacist does not consider herself an expert on drugs all I can say is I am glad you are not my Pharmacist. LOL Personally I have found pharmacist's to be far more knowledgeable than GP's and more often than not they could do a better job than most GP's can in diagnosing and treatments, or maybe I just have a great Pharmacist. LOL

Good night and good bye to you.

Pseudo intellect with no real idea. You use the street language of a 12 year old. Trolls and flaming ! Say what you mean and show some credibility. You clearly have no hands on experience of prison ,prisoners or how any of it works. If you are unable to handle an opposing view stay out of the discussion and when you post a comment that shows very clearly that you dont know your subject ,expect someone to pick you up on it

Turner has a public Bebo page, so you can all rant there too http://www.bebo.com/
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Should have been led to the gallows. Wonder if he would have been the hard man then seeing the noose ready for his 'big head'.

anonEmouse criticises others for being 'insulting', whilst saying the following about others: "you spouted your big uneducated mouth off", "shut the hell up until you know what you are talking about", "are you mentally challenged? Or just plain stupid? As you cannot even spell", "you fool" etc. The word hypocrisy springs to mind. And I am quite worried if this person is going to do something career wise with his psychology degree, given his clear intent to belittle and berate people, and for why? Because they have challenged his views? Psychology is the study of mind and behaviour yet he appears to have responded very angrily to anyone else using their mind or behaviour to elucidate their point. Let's hope I never end up with him as my shrink!

mmm2008 wrote:
anonEmouse criticises others for being 'insulting', whilst saying the following about others: "you spouted your big uneducated mouth off", "shut the hell up until you know what you are talking about", "are you mentally challenged? Or just plain stupid? As you cannot even spell", "you fool" etc. The word hypocrisy springs to mind. And I am quite worried if this person is going to do something career wise with his psychology degree, given his clear intent to belittle and berate people, and for why? Because they have challenged his views? Psychology is the study of mind and behaviour yet he appears to have responded very angrily to anyone else using their mind or behaviour to elucidate their point. Let's hope I never end up with him as my shrink!

Yes it's quite a frightening thought isn't it. I think (from what has been posted) that they are very young and have purchased a couple of psychology books from Amazon and now think they're an expert, so we're probably quite safe!