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300 turbines to be built off Bournemouth coast?
8:19am Wednesday 15th February 2012 in Latest By Julie Magee
UP to 300 wind turbines, towering up to 205 metres high, could be built off the Bournemouth and Poole coast.
A new report reveals the scale of controversial proposals for a wind farm 10.2 miles from Bournemouth Pier.
It comes just days after warnings that the Navitus Bay Wind Park could affect visitor numbers and cost 500 jobs in Dorset’s tourism sector.
Bournemouth’s head of tourism Mark Smith said research in Scotland had shown that two to three per cent of visitors would not return to an area with a wind farm.
The council’s principal planning officer Steve Davies will update planning board members on the scheme on Monday night.
In his report, Mr Davies says a typical turbine will have a rotor diameter range of 90 to 176 metres and maximum tip height of up to 205 metres with a hub height of 120 metres.
“According to the current indications the wind park will provide up to 300 turbines. The use of larger turbines with greater generating capacity will reduce the actual number of turbines required. The turbines will be a semi-matt pale grey in colour.”
He stresses that the proposals are at the pre-consultation stage adding: “This is a long term project with a long lead in period. At this stage the council is not expected to give a formal view on the proposal.”
Cllr David Smith said: “The bigger the turbines are the more impact they will have on our coastal views and our tourism industry.
“A major concern is the wind farm’s proximity to the shore and we would like to see the turbines being erected further out to sea.
“The turbine size envisaged is huge and, positioned just off the end of the Isle of Wight, they would dwarf The Needles.”
Eneco is holding a public consultation update meeting at Bournemouth Pavilion on Saturday, February 25 between 10 am and four.
The pre-application process is expected to start in May with a projected opening date in 2019.
Comments(26)
Roginthesouth
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8:46am Wed 15 Feb 12
Objectors using the argument that it will “spoil the view” need to face facts and consider future generations.
bobbins
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9:23am Wed 15 Feb 12
14km from the Isle of Wight is "just off the end"?
He's a Councillor, his lips are moving, he must be lying.
Look up Nysted, they actually have higher tourist numbers than before they built their farm and now have a successful tourist industry using the farm as a draw with boat tours and information centres. For once Bournemouth Council, get your fingers out of your ears and look at what could be made of it. You've even got an information centre waiting to be converted, viewing platforms from the top to enable people to see it given how far away it actually will be.
short fatone
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9:26am Wed 15 Feb 12
no yellows pinks or blacks than ....thats not nice
Olheart
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9:27am Wed 15 Feb 12
But on the plus side they’re not building them across the country side so if they think it’s worth it….
John Peek
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9:27am Wed 15 Feb 12
Wind power is intermittent and expensive - 3 times more than gas power.
Shale gas and other fuels will render Wind power obsolete.
High energy costs will cause fuel poverty and deaths, and render British industry uncompetitive.
And overall carbon emmissions are greater than using gas.
But the Green fanatics love wind and they have big megaphones!!
585
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9:35am Wed 15 Feb 12
http://www.edenproje
ct.com/blog/index.ph
p/2010/12/geothermal
-power-plant-at-eden
-gets-go-ahead/
tindallshairband
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9:39am Wed 15 Feb 12
short fatone
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9:40am Wed 15 Feb 12
and twice the height, also can we have the baiter tower built then we can wave to each other.
Cosmic Crusader
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9:43am Wed 15 Feb 12
BarrHumbug
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9:55am Wed 15 Feb 12
The Liberal
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10:03am Wed 15 Feb 12
Glashen
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10:20am Wed 15 Feb 12
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http://www.challenge
navitus.org.uk/
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It has some interesting simulations of how they may look from various vantage points.
Old Harry
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10:54am Wed 15 Feb 12
Glashen wrote:Horrific! This would be done so that a company can make a profit. Do we really want to see the planet visually polluted in this manner. The economic/environment
If you think the will be invisuble from Bournemouth, have a look at: - http://www.challenge navitus.org.uk/ - It has some interesting simulations of how they may look from various vantage points.
al case has still to be proven.
a.g.o.g.
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11:26am Wed 15 Feb 12
John Peek wrote:...and even bigger bucks!!!
There is a possibility that the Jurassic Coast could be stripped of it's World Heritage Site status by UNESCO. Wind power is intermittent and expensive - 3 times more than gas power. Shale gas and other fuels will render Wind power obsolete. High energy costs will cause fuel poverty and deaths, and render British industry uncompetitive. And overall carbon emmissions are greater than using gas. But the Green fanatics love wind and they have big megaphones!!
Tony Trent
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12:34pm Wed 15 Feb 12
John Peek wrote:The biggest megaphones are those being used by opponants of wind farms of all scales, and used to peddle propaganda - and in some cases downright untruths. Some believe the opposition to wind farms is actively supported by vested interests that just want to own the only energy in town. Do you honestly think that we can put all our eggs in a basket that contains gas shipped from Russia and the Middle East, very questionable shale gas, and coal - the biggest polluter of them all and increasingly harder to get out.
There is a possibility that the Jurassic Coast could be stripped of it's World Heritage Site status by UNESCO.
Wind power is intermittent and expensive - 3 times more than gas power.
Shale gas and other fuels will render Wind power obsolete.
High energy costs will cause fuel poverty and deaths, and render British industry uncompetitive.
And overall carbon emmissions are greater than using gas.
But the Green fanatics love wind and they have big megaphones!!
Try as you like to bury your head in the sand there is a problem that needs solving. Wind farms are estimated to provide energy into the UK National Grid for 85% of the time. That's a saving of other more finite fuels - spreading their demise over several more years than would otherwise be the case.
Do you honestly believe that none of the other options cost. Nuclear is estimated to be eventually costing us more per household than the current national financial crisis. Clean coal technology (probably part of a final mix of varied energy sources) will have a huge cost.
Stop peddling nonsense about Dorset losing it's Jurasic Coast and look at it another way. If we don't get our act together and find a way to live within our environmental means then we are destined in the not too distant future, to endure a level of fuel poverty as yet unimagined, and beyond that to take our place as another layer of sedement on the Jurasic Coast. Don't let the dinosaurs turn ALL OF US into dinosaurs before our time.
TheDistrict
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12:43pm Wed 15 Feb 12
Old Harry wrote:I would prefer a visual pollution than an air pollution which is caused by other sources of energy. How often do those sat on the beach take notice of what is on the horizon. This country can not go on spewing out emissions to the ozone layers and our air, so it is time to source energy from green sources such as this.
Glashen wrote:Horrific! This would be done so that a company can make a profit. Do we really want to see the planet visually polluted in this manner. The economic/environment
If you think the will be invisuble from Bournemouth, have a look at: - http://www.challenge navitus.org.uk/ - It has some interesting simulations of how they may look from various vantage points.
al case has still to be proven.
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short fatone
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2:17pm Wed 15 Feb 12
This is our future
So why dont you stay in bed and stop wasting it
Glashen
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3:49pm Wed 15 Feb 12
Tony Trent wrote:Tony Trent I wish you were right but I am increasingly convinced that wind power is a distraction that will not solve our energy needs and will as a by product spoil a world renowned area.
John Peek wrote:The biggest megaphones are those being used by opponants of wind farms of all scales, and used to peddle propaganda - and in some cases downright untruths. Some believe the opposition to wind farms is actively supported by vested interests that just want to own the only energy in town. Do you honestly think that we can put all our eggs in a basket that contains gas shipped from Russia and the Middle East, very questionable shale gas, and coal - the biggest polluter of them all and increasingly harder to get out.
There is a possibility that the Jurassic Coast could be stripped of it's World Heritage Site status by UNESCO.
Wind power is intermittent and expensive - 3 times more than gas power.
Shale gas and other fuels will render Wind power obsolete.
High energy costs will cause fuel poverty and deaths, and render British industry uncompetitive.
And overall carbon emmissions are greater than using gas.
But the Green fanatics love wind and they have big megaphones!!
Try as you like to bury your head in the sand there is a problem that needs solving. Wind farms are estimated to provide energy into the UK National Grid for 85% of the time. That's a saving of other more finite fuels - spreading their demise over several more years than would otherwise be the case.
Do you honestly believe that none of the other options cost. Nuclear is estimated to be eventually costing us more per household than the current national financial crisis. Clean coal technology (probably part of a final mix of varied energy sources) will have a huge cost.
Stop peddling nonsense about Dorset losing it's Jurasic Coast and look at it another way. If we don't get our act together and find a way to live within our environmental means then we are destined in the not too distant future, to endure a level of fuel poverty as yet unimagined, and beyond that to take our place as another layer of sedement on the Jurasic Coast. Don't let the dinosaurs turn ALL OF US into dinosaurs before our time.
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How can an obviously erratic form of power may us more energy secure, we will still need Russian gas for when the wind isn't blowing.
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You say wind farms provide energy 85% of the time but you don't say how much power they will generate. But the government's own figures say that they will only produce 30% of their rated capacity over 12 months and the actual figures from existing farms are as low as 21%.
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I agree we have a problem and energy costs are going to rise, but if we are going to have to spend lets spend on something like nuclear, clean coal or geothermal which will actually work.
norfolkboy14
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5:16pm Wed 15 Feb 12
Are you disillusioned by rising electricity prices, over dependence on the "green" dream then please register your objection to the Government by GOOGLING "E-PETITION 22958" and following the link.
Please pass this message on to Councillors, members of your community and anyone else you know to persuade them to sign up too. If you are really concerned about wind turbines please write a letter promoting this petition to your community newsletters and the Editors of your local newspapers.
MARodger
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7:39pm Wed 15 Feb 12
But I see no report!! The big Scottish tourist report on wind farms concluded there was no problem. Where then is this scary report? All there is so far is hearsay and Chinese whispers which is hardily the professional response staff on Bournemouth Council are paid to provide.
The Liberal
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9:34am Thu 16 Feb 12
Glashen wrote:Simulations made by whom? People against the wind farm. In the website blurb it even admits that they're based on approximations, since Eneco's provisional data contain ranges of values (including for turbine sizes). Personally I think the simulations may be exaggerated (or a worst-case scenario), but I'd be interested to see some created by a reputable independent source – a university study, say.
If you think the will be invisuble from Bournemouth, have a look at:
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http://www.challenge
navitus.org.uk/
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It has some interesting simulations of how they may look from various vantage points.
a.g.o.g.
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11:26am Thu 16 Feb 12
The Liberal wrote:The Piper will always play the tune the caller wants and so why stray away from the known fact that Wind Farms struggle to produce even 30% of their rated output over a full year and that for them to provide say 25% of the UK needs 24/7 they will have to be theoretically capable of producing 100% of it at a build cost exceeding that of nuclear for that 25% share of the load PLUS near enough the same level of cost to provide stand-by power for when the wind isn`t blowing (strong enough) for the turbines to deliver (full) power.
Glashen wrote: If you think the will be invisuble from Bournemouth, have a look at: - http://www.challenge navitus.org.uk/ - It has some interesting simulations of how they may look from various vantage points.Simulations made by whom? People against the wind farm. In the website blurb it even admits that they're based on approximations, since Eneco's provisional data contain ranges of values (including for turbine sizes). Personally I think the simulations may be exaggerated (or a worst-case scenario), but I'd be interested to see some created by a reputable independent source – a university study, say.
OK tidal is expensive but 100% reliable, geothermal likely impossible on our deep terrain, nuclear quite a headache and solar only ok if we could devise a way of storing the undoubted power it can generate around 6 months of the year and so we do still have to look to (our) fossil resources (not forgetting The Falklands known fields that are estimated to hold more reserves than (did) The North Sea) and, already being sold to prospectors, deep UK coal deposits that will be mined by the process of gassification in the near future.
585
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11:32am Thu 16 Feb 12
the Eden Project is going ahead with geothermal, see http://www.edenproje
ct.com/whats-it-all-
about/climate-and-en
vironment/sustainabi
lity-at-eden/geother
mal
a.g.o.g.
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10:55am Fri 17 Feb 12
585 wrote:Yes, so I now read, great, but it seems like it will be confined to Cornwall where the magma isn`t so deep below the surface as elsewhere in the UK.
a.g.o.g. says 'geothermal likely impossible on our deep terrain' the Eden Project is going ahead with geothermal, see http://www.edenproje ct.com/whats-it-all- about/climate-and-en vironment/sustainabi lity-at-eden/geother mal
585
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11:23am Fri 17 Feb 12
Some of the electricity generated by the Eden Project will be fed into the National Grid and so will benefit the whole of the UK to some extent.
ben111 says...
8:30am Wed 15 Feb 12