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Beesley elected Bournemouth Tory leader
8:06am Tuesday 14th February 2012 in Latest By Julie Magee
Beesley elected Bournemouth Tory leader
Bournemouth Council’s Conservative group has chosen Cllr John Beesley as its new leader.
The council’s acting leader was nominated by several group members. No other nominations were received.
It is expected that Cllr Beesley will be elected as the new council leader at a Town Hall meeting next Tuesday (Feb 21).
The special Conservative group meeting was called after Cllr Peter Charon lost a vote of no confidence proposed by his colleagues and was forced to resign as council leader and Conservative group leader.
Comments(37)
Anneaa
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8:29am Tue 14 Feb 12
BmthNewshound
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8:35am Tue 14 Feb 12
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Specsavers must have been doing a roaring trade in rose tinted spectactles to tory councillors if they really think that Beelsey is suitable to be leader of the council.
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I wonder if Paddy Power will be accepting bets on how long before Beesley is forced to resign.
tindallshairband
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9:19am Tue 14 Feb 12
step up
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9:35am Tue 14 Feb 12
grazzer
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9:48am Tue 14 Feb 12
TheDistrict
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9:54am Tue 14 Feb 12
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Where was the rest of the Cllrs who could have took leadership.
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Or were you forced into it again.
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Adrian Fudge
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9:54am Tue 14 Feb 12
tindallshairband wrote:Absolutely spot on
As a local community, we've got nobody to blame but ourselves. We keep electing these duplicitous individuals.
Old Colonial
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9:57am Tue 14 Feb 12
Problem is....whose book?
*Fiona*
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10:12am Tue 14 Feb 12
Unlike Peter Charon he isnt arrogant and prideful in his approach he's more measured and balanced.
The opposition Cllrs respect him which is a good sign.
John T
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10:17am Tue 14 Feb 12
Now we can expect more transparency than we got from Cllr Charon. How long will it be before the Bournemouth electorate see right through you?!
Edwinton
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10:21am Tue 14 Feb 12
Glashen
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10:22am Tue 14 Feb 12
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I wish him well it won't be easy given recent history, major decisions affecting the town's future are being taken Bournemouth needs a council leader who the majority can have confidence in.
wonderway
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10:37am Tue 14 Feb 12
Glashen wrote:i have no political reason to say this "This man deserves no respect after he tried to ciover up porngate and blame a another person" He is not a true and honnest person ........... weasley beasley sums him up perfectly
Let's be honest the problem with John Beesley for some of the posters on here is that he is a Conservative.
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I wish him well it won't be easy given recent history, major decisions affecting the town's future are being taken Bournemouth needs a council leader who the majority can have confidence in.
southbourne lover
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11:22am Tue 14 Feb 12
Phixer
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11:22am Tue 14 Feb 12
Ironically, the award comes just weeks after Cllr Charon lost a vote of no confidence proposed by his colleagues and was forced to resign as council leader and Conservative group leader."
Keep it in the family.
Ohec Blimey
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12:15pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Adrian Fudge wrote:It must really sting to know that when in power you were actually worse than these clowns.
tindallshairband wrote:Absolutely spot on
As a local community, we've got nobody to blame but ourselves. We keep electing these duplicitous individuals.
Glashen
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12:36pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Phixer wrote:Peter Charon receiving a leadership award made me remember the Tom Lehrer quote regarding Henry Kissinger receiving the Nobel Peace Prize and I think it applies here as well, "Satire is now obsolete".
"BOURNEMOUTH’
S deposed council leader Peter Charon has become the first councillor in the region to achieve an Advance Community Leadership Award.
Ironically, the award comes just weeks after Cllr Charon lost a vote of no confidence proposed by his colleagues and was forced to resign as council leader and Conservative group leader."
Keep it in the family.
The Procrastinator
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12:49pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Though this is probably the worst decision for the Tories in the publics eyes. It makes a lot of sense to them, he is after all seen as a steady pair of hands. From what Ive heard he's already making the right conscilatory noises to the AntiCharon camp.
Personally its the wrong choice. But it will actually depend on three things, who he choses to be in the Cabinet, who is deputy leader and what he does with the resources portfolio and the town centre master vision.
He needs to chose some anticharonites, get a good deputy (a Greene would be a decent choice even if it is voted for) and get rid of resources and the TCMV. Resources should go to a steady pair of hands, someone like Bob Chapman or Bob Lawton. TCMV needs to go to someone younger and dynamic, Nicola Greene or similar. Though I think she should get education back.
Sit back and see if the group implodes again? I dont think they can change leader again before the next election....
Alderman1
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1:13pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Adrian - sorry but your track record still pongs especially the contract signed on election day!
For the commentators who allege corruption either put up or shut up, I have seen no sign of corruption in Bournemouth Town Hall - you reaklly must be totally out of touch with reality.
Best of luck John.
short fatone
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1:48pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Roses are red
Violets are blue
Sorry my dear
But we dont need you
dd9andy
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2:03pm Tue 14 Feb 12
John T
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3:39pm Tue 14 Feb 12
MacLoughlin is blue
Both stabbed in the back
And Brutus, you too?
Conor Burns should soon be available for lunch dates.
BmthNewshound
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4:34pm Tue 14 Feb 12
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There’s no smoke without fire. Mr Charon wanted people to put up and shut up and look what happened to him. If you think that everything at the town hall is whiter than white, I thinks its you that’s out of touch and not those who question
The Cerne Giant
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4:35pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Surely Conc Beesley should be given a chance to prove him self - Oh Yea of little faith
Baywolf
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5:02pm Tue 14 Feb 12
The Cerne Giant wrote:Did they not say the same thing when Charon got elected to this position? Give them the chance? ...How many years have we waited for some kind of progress that benefits the towns people or even the town centre...look at the bus carnage outside WH Smiths when is work going to start on the IMAX and I wont even mention the Reef. Untill something actually happens under this Tory led council it is very much the same old thing.
It saddens me that a very high preponderance of contributors to the Echo comments are oh so negative and at times outrages
Surely Conc Beesley should be given a chance to prove him self - Oh Yea of little faith
juniperberry
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5:34pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Downside - control freak, thinks he can do better than everyone else, has his fingers in every portfolio because he feels he cant trust anyone one else to do a proper job, gets his own way by intellectual stealth and simply knowing more about local government finance than anyone else.
Upside - dedicated to Bournemouth, works tirelessly to improve it, thinks big but pays attention to detail, has a long-term vision for the town, is NOT in it for himself, has been the wing man for a long time and supported them all, is respected inside the council by other councillors and officers alike and outside the council with local business.
Lets hope he brings back into the cabinet some of those bright stars from 4 years ago and dispense with the losers picked by Charon and he might just get the job done properly!
s-pb2
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6:55pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Baywolf wrote:Post of the day! Did make me laugh. Top priority.. bus stops outside WH Smiths!
The Cerne Giant wrote:Did they not say the same thing when Charon got elected to this position? Give them the chance? ...How many years have we waited for some kind of progress that benefits the towns people or even the town centre...look at the bus carnage outside WH Smiths when is work going to start on the IMAX and I wont even mention the Reef. Untill something actually happens under this Tory led council it is very much the same old thing.
It saddens me that a very high preponderance of contributors to the Echo comments are oh so negative and at times outrages
Surely Conc Beesley should be given a chance to prove him self - Oh Yea of little faith
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I would have thought the top priority is making sure no further facilities for the elderly and vulnerable adults are shut down and the huge task in dealing with the recent baby boom for the education department and the rapidly increasing numbers of children coming into care
Adrian Fudge
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7:34pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Alderman1 wrote:What a shame you again refer to me signing a contract that it has been established over and over when as you are well aware I never did because Councillors dont sign contracts
I wish John good luck with the job. He has done a great job to date and as a community we must hope that the whole of the majority group gets behind him and continue the good work that was started when they came back into power in the Town Hall. Adrian - sorry but your track record still pongs especially the contract signed on election day! For the commentators who allege corruption either put up or shut up, I have seen no sign of corruption in Bournemouth Town Hall - you reaklly must be totally out of touch with reality. Best of luck John.
What a shame that you always have to revert to dirty tactics , but I suppose thats the Tory way
Adrian Fudge
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7:36pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Ohec Blimey wrote:Once again I will ask to state in what way
Adrian Fudge wrote:It must really sting to know that when in power you were actually worse than these clowns.tindallshairband wrote: As a local community, we've got nobody to blame but ourselves. We keep electing these duplicitous individuals.Absolutely spot on
Justify your remark and try to do it without being objectionable just stating facts
Adrian Fudge
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8:06pm Tue 14 Feb 12
Alderman1 wrote:Sorry the other thing I meant to say , for clarity, is that this is the contract that the Tories said should never had gone ahead but have gone out of their way to to alter the situation with the Meyrick Trust, renewed the planning consent( including the Casino) without a murmour, and extended the period for commencing the scheme 3 times
I wish John good luck with the job. He has done a great job to date and as a community we must hope that the whole of the majority group gets behind him and continue the good work that was started when they came back into power in the Town Hall. Adrian - sorry but your track record still pongs especially the contract signed on election day! For the commentators who allege corruption either put up or shut up, I have seen no sign of corruption in Bournemouth Town Hall - you reaklly must be totally out of touch with reality. Best of luck John.
They are obviously totally against it along with the sale of any car parks having made them all available for development
Phixer
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1:17am Wed 15 Feb 12
Alderman1 wrote:We see corruption all the time in politics .
I wish John good luck with the job. He has done a great job to date and as a community we must hope that the whole of the majority group gets behind him and continue the good work that was started when they came back into power in the Town Hall.
Adrian - sorry but your track record still pongs especially the contract signed on election day!
For the commentators who allege corruption either put up or shut up, I have seen no sign of corruption in Bournemouth Town Hall - you reaklly must be totally out of touch with reality.
Best of luck John.
Do you expect us to believe that BBC is squeaky clean?
Ohec Blimey
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10:17am Wed 15 Feb 12
Furthermore the vicious lies that the "Fudge" factor was a major part of a wonderfully honest and dedicated councillor losing her seat in the subsequent election are just that, total fiction.
You are in fact currently running Bournemouth Council as the Liberal Democrats Peoples Socialist Republic and all is tickety boo!
I am, of course, a pickled egg.
The Procrastinator
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11:21am Wed 15 Feb 12
juniperberry wrote:I think this is about as spot on, from what people have told me about Beesley.
On Beesley Downside - control freak, thinks he can do better than everyone else, has his fingers in every portfolio because he feels he cant trust anyone one else to do a proper job, gets his own way by intellectual stealth and simply knowing more about local government finance than anyone else. Upside - dedicated to Bournemouth, works tirelessly to improve it, thinks big but pays attention to detail, has a long-term vision for the town, is NOT in it for himself, has been the wing man for a long time and supported them all, is respected inside the council by other councillors and officers alike and outside the council with local business. Lets hope he brings back into the cabinet some of those bright stars from 4 years ago and dispense with the losers picked by Charon and he might just get the job done properly!
I dont expect anyone to think politics is clean, it probably isnt. But it probably isnt as rife as we all think. But the fact its full of the Middle (Middle Aged, Middle Classed, White English) Men, makes it seem like an old boys club. Charon, Beesley, McLaughlin all fit into this description well, as do most of the opposition (Fudge & Grower comes to mind). The problem may not be corruption per se, but actually the limited pool that the councillors come from. In a town like Bournemouth, they all probably move in the same circles and know all the same people. Property developers and the like included, like Dave Wells for example. Im not making excuses but we do vote for them and maybe we should ask for a better and more diverse range of candidates.
Beesley should get some sort of chance to prove himself different. As I said before it will all depend on his cabinet. If it has some of the "brighter sparks" from the Anti Charonites (Anderson, Montrose, Green, et al) it might actually work in his favour.
John T
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11:31am Wed 15 Feb 12
Ohec Blimey wrote:I believe you have over-egged your final sentence; I believe you are just pickled (to put it politely).
Mr Fudge, my mistake. You actually won the election and the nasty rumours that that you managed to get a massive majority completely overturned and took an electoral kicking are false. Furthermore the vicious lies that the "Fudge" factor was a major part of a wonderfully honest and dedicated councillor losing her seat in the subsequent election are just that, total fiction. You are in fact currently running Bournemouth Council as the Liberal Democrats Peoples Socialist Republic and all is tickety boo! I am, of course, a pickled egg.
Adrian Fudge
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12:41pm Wed 15 Feb 12
Ohec Blimey wrote:High on insults low on constructive arguement which is the sign of someone with nothing to say
Mr Fudge, my mistake. You actually won the election and the nasty rumours that that you managed to get a massive majority completely overturned and took an electoral kicking are false. Furthermore the vicious lies that the "Fudge" factor was a major part of a wonderfully honest and dedicated councillor losing her seat in the subsequent election are just that, total fiction. You are in fact currently running Bournemouth Council as the Liberal Democrats Peoples Socialist Republic and all is tickety boo! I am, of course, a pickled egg.
At least we agree on one thing . Yes you are pickled
peter hurt
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11:04pm Wed 15 Feb 12
Baywolf says...
8:26am Tue 14 Feb 12