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Parish poll lined up over West Dorset District Council move to Charles Street, Dorchester


A POLL is being lined up for every voter in Dorchester to have their say on the district council’s £10.7million move to the proposed Charles Street development.

Petitioners have lodged an application with Dorchester Town Council for the parish poll – thought to be the first in the town in living memory.

The move comes after a row over a public meeting about West Dorset District Council’s plans to relocate from Stratton House to modern, purpose-built offices.

Lorna Low, who handed out leaflets about the public meeting in the town centre with fellow resident Keith Hix, welcomed the move.

She said: “I think it is a very good idea and will give people the chance to express their opinion.”

Mr Hix, of Manor Road, added: “I think it is an excellent idea.

“So far people haven’t had a voice and I think they should. I would have thought that of those who vote 95 per cent would be against the move to Charles Street.”

A vote will be held of all those eligible at Dorchester Town Council’s annual meeting on Thursday about whether to have the poll.

If the poll is agreed, a question will be drawn up with a yes or no answer.

Notification will then go to West Dorset District Council chief executive David Clarke as the election returning officer.

Technically, he could decline the call if he feels it extends beyond the parish boundaries.

The poll would then be held on a Thursday – probably in mid or late April – from 4pm to 9pm of all those eligible to vote – about 13,000 people of Dorchester’s 17,500-strong population.

Dorchester Town Council will have to pay the costs of the General Election-style referendum, about £5,000.

The result would not carry any legal weight and is not binding.

The provision for a poll features in the Local Government Act of 1972.

Town clerk Dennis Holmes said: “I can’t remember there being a town poll in Dorchester. I’ve been here 23 years and there’s never been one although they have happened occasionally elsewhere in the country.”

The call for a poll comes after West Dorset Lib Dem election candidate Sue Farrant organised a public meeting about the move at the United Church on Wednesday at 6.30pm.

District council leader Robert Gould and chief executive David Clarke have refused to attend as they claim Mrs Farrant is playing politics ahead of an election.

District council director of corporate resources and health Adrian Stuart said the authority knew about the poll.

He said: “We are aware of this issue and will respond as and when any request is made.”

The town council annual meeting is on Thursday at 7pm at the Pavilion at the Recreation Ground in Weymouth Avenue.

Comments(19)

free wessex says...
12:25pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Good try! Clarke and his cronies are not a democrats they will decline any form of poll or discussion.

West Dorset District Council refuse to discuss how they infringe mine and my daughters right to family life.

http://wddcdeniesmyh
umanrights.blogspot.
com/

Mads says...
1:08pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Do some people have nothing better to do with their time than to ensure progress is stunted at every opportunity? First the Weymouth Pavilion site and now Charles Street.

The article doesn't make it clear why they are against the move. What have they against a modern library, a better choice of shops and more accessible council offices?

Techie says...
1:18pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Leaving your agenda aside, the right to have a poll such as this is enshrined in the 1972 LGA and is held at parish/town level, not at the district level.

There is always a danger with these polls (probably not in this case) that because only ten electors need to request it, it makes it easy for a vexatious minority to cost an authority a great deal in time and money.

The article in the paper made reference to a poll that (I think) Bothenhampton PC were not allowed to hold regarding the EU as it was not a parish matter. The person who was behind this (from Lyme Regis) wrote to every Parish in Dorset to request that they held this poll, seeming to have little concept of how much it would cost and the legality of it.

Techie says...
1:19pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Sorry, the "leaving your agenda aside" comment wasn't aimed at Mads.

james_spider says...
1:40pm Mon 22 Mar 10

QUOTE: 'The poll would then be held on a Thursday – probably in mid or late April – from 4pm to 9pm of all those eligible to vote – about 13,000 people of Dorchester’s 17,500-strong population.'

Why not save some money (and ensure a larger and more representative turnout) by holding the poll on the same day as the General Election on (probably) May 6th?

Techie says...
2:08pm Mon 22 Mar 10

james_spider wrote:
QUOTE: 'The poll would then be held on a Thursday – probably in mid or late April – from 4pm to 9pm of all those eligible to vote – about 13,000 people of Dorchester’s 17,500-strong population.'

Why not save some money (and ensure a larger and more representative turnout) by holding the poll on the same day as the General Election on (probably) May 6th?
The poll would need to take place 14-25 days after the poll was demanded:

"The date of the poll will be fixed by the returning officer and should be not earlier than the 14th day nor later than the 25th day after the day on which the poll was demanded. It must be held in accordance with rules made by the Secretary of State.
The rules are very clear about the way in which the poll is to be conducted. For example, ballot papers must be printed and each elector must have one; voting takes place in a polling station between 4pm and 9pm on the appointed day. The poll is advisory and the result is not binding on the council."

From http://www.parliamen
t.uk/commons/lib/res
earch/briefings/snpc
-03409.pdf

james_spider says...
4:12pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Hmm, fair enough! Seems overly bureaucratic though.

Techie says...
5:21pm Mon 22 Mar 10

These are the laws that determine how we are governed (albeit at a local level) and how we the public influence that process - it's one area that does need to have every eventuality set in stone IMHO.

Red Cockade says...
5:33pm Mon 22 Mar 10

"Dorchester Town Council will have to pay the costs ..... about £5,000."
As Techie says " it makes it easy for a vexatious minority to cost an authority a great deal in time and money."
But in the end it won't be "the Council" that pays for this poll - it will be US. I can think of a lot more useful things for the Council spend £5000 of OUR money on.

CoogarUK.com says...
6:22pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Oliver Letwin, please take note: Your stance on this issue may well cost you my vote at the forthcoming General Election

CoogarUK.com says...
6:26pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Mads, this issue has nothing whatsoever to do with 'stunting progress' as you put it but everything to do with WDDC blowing £15m-odd of Council Tax payers' money on a brand-new, purpose-built HQ, without consulting them and refusing to do so.

CoogarUK.com says...
6:32pm Mon 22 Mar 10

I would be quite happy for the remainder of the development to go ahead (subject to a detailed planning application being approved - if and when one is ever submitted) but I have a strong suspicion that the planning application, the planned HQ and the developer are all inter-dependent in some way.

Mads says...
7:03pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Net cost seems to be £7m acc to http://www.dorsetfor
you.com/index.jsp?ar
ticleid=395727 with annual savings thereafter.

Techie says...
7:12pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Ooh, the "invest now to save money later" paradox rears its head once again, and once again plenty of people won't quite understand how it works.

Continuing to occupy Stratton House is not a no-cost option here. Before condemining what they are trying to do you need to look carefully at the long-term finance picture rather than focussing solely on what it costs NOW.

CoogarUK.com says...
8:16pm Mon 22 Mar 10

Now you seem to be overlooking the fact that WDDC may cease to exist before all these 'savings' come to fruition.

free wessex says...
9:12pm Mon 22 Mar 10

a public meeting about the move at the United Church on Wednesday at 6.30pm.
District council leader Robert Gould and chief executive David Clarke have refused to attend
However you could try for their opinion...
Email:directors@west
dorset-dc.gov.uk
Tel:01305 252202

CoogarUK.com says...
11:25pm Mon 22 Mar 10

I have just thought of a way I might make huge savings on my Council Tax. Pay off this year's bill over a period of 20 years. Repeat for another 20 years, by which time I might be dead. My descendants can then pick up any liability. Do you think I should consult the council on this plan or just plough ahead regardless?

Techie says...
12:57am Tue 23 Mar 10

What the hell has that got to do with capital spending? {belms}

CoogarUK.com says...
3:39pm Tue 23 Mar 10

About as much as WDDC's scheme (and I choose that word carefully) has to do with saving money.


Keith Hix and Lorna Low in South Street promote a public meeting and poll on the council’s relocation plans Keith Hix and Lorna Low in South Street promote a public meeting and poll on the council’s relocation plans

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