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10:30am Wednesday 10th February 2010
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BOURNEMOUTH could see a mass protest demanding the demolition of the resort’s Imax building.
The idea is being considered by the newly founded Imax Demolition Party, which is to host its first public meeting later this month.
The party – which currently has more than 1,000 members on the internet thanks to a Facebook group – was set up after Bournemouth council announced it was buying the Waterfront building containing the Imax.
Council leaders have spent £5 million acquiring the building and have set aside up to £2.5m for ousting the remaining tenants and “substantially demolishing” the complex.
Founder Graeme Sweetapple said: “We really feel like we’re outgrowing Facebook now. We want to really take this into the public domain and we would really like some kind of public meeting but also something along the lines of a protest as well.”
He said a march to the Town Hall or to the Waterfront building itself were options.
And he hoped the council would involve the group in deciding the site’s future.
“We would very much like the council to embrace our group’s shared opinions. We’re over 1,000 members now and we feel it’s essential for us to be able to liaise and work with the council,” he said.
“This issue has caused so much grief and anxiety to so many people for so many years now, we believe the constructive way forward is for a direct consultation to take place with the people of Bournemouth democratically.”
Members of the group have been suggesting their own ideas for the site, with an ice rink, a swimming pool and gardens the most popular so far.
Another Facebook group, Save the Imax Building, had gathered almost 400 members as of yesterday.
One supporter wrote: “To pay £7.5m just to demolish a structurally good building with no plan as to what to put in its place seems like a criminal waste of everybody's money... If they showed Avatar 3D there today I would buy a ticket like a shot.”
The Imax Demolition Party will meet on Sunday February 28 at 7.30pm at the Portman Hotel, 97 Ashley Road, Boscombe.
free wessex, Bridport says...
10:41am Wed 10 Feb 10
LuckyStar, Sandbanks says...
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ski, west moors says...
12:00pm Wed 10 Feb 10
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12:14pm Wed 10 Feb 10
golden mouldie, Bournemouth says...
12:22pm Wed 10 Feb 10
Xchurch-man, Christchurch says...
12:42pm Wed 10 Feb 10
collarge, bournemouth says...
1:04pm Wed 10 Feb 10
MisterE wrote:It is annoying that we the public had to buy back this giant shed, but single people have paid millions to own one house with a view only for themselves, we as a town have split the cost to get our view back. When you drive down Bath Road on a clear summers day and the whole view opens up to you, you know you have arrived here at Bournemouth by the sea, the reason so many millions of people come here. Its Bournemouth's shop window to what it has to offer, they don't come here for the Imax or TK MAx, they are here relax and let the sea do it's magic. The more that this view is promoted then more people will come and relax. Put it this way if they put an iMax in the middle of the forest its not going to sell it to me, put an imax in the middle of an industrial estate then yes great you have cheered up a dull place.
I assume these 1000 or so people are happy to stump up the necessary cash to pay for the demolition themselves? Or should we expect it to come out of our already extortionate and overstretched council tax?
Perhaps all the car parking charges could go up? Those of us who live in the town centre could have our parking permit costs doubled – we don’t mind! Perhaps the council would be good enough to only collect our bins fortnightly, or never grit the roads in the bad weather? Perhaps they could limit home care visits to just once or twice a week, or shut down a couple of libraries?
Hey, who cares? As long as they demolish the Imax, it'll all be worth it - just think of that 2 second uninterrupted view of the sea, should you actually find yourself in town and driving in the right direction along Bath Road, that is…
Syd Poumen, Poole says...
1:11pm Wed 10 Feb 10
jobsworthwatch, Bournemouth says...
1:20pm Wed 10 Feb 10
golden mouldie wrote:Try driving along the East overcliff, as you approach the Russell cotes museum the view across the bay is stunning.
What a bunch of luddites!!!! How about being pro active instead. As to those who complain about the view - are you so blinkered that you cannot see that there are many miles of roads and footpaths either side of this building to see the view, and if you are coming down past the Royal bath hotel in a car, then your eyes should be on the ROAD not the view.
Xchurch-man, Christchurch says...
1:24pm Wed 10 Feb 10
MisterE, Bournemouth says...
1:24pm Wed 10 Feb 10
collarge wrote:So you think that tourists are going to drive all the way from wherever they live to Bournemouth, drive down Bath Road & not be able to see the sea for 2 minutes, so turn around and go home without stopping?!
MisterE wrote:It is annoying that we the public had to buy back this giant shed, but single people have paid millions to own one house with a view only for themselves, we as a town have split the cost to get our view back. When you drive down Bath Road on a clear summers day and the whole view opens up to you, you know you have arrived here at Bournemouth by the sea, the reason so many millions of people come here. Its Bournemouth's shop window to what it has to offer, they don't come here for the Imax or TK MAx, they are here relax and let the sea do it's magic. The more that this view is promoted then more people will come and relax. Put it this way if they put an iMax in the middle of the forest its not going to sell it to me, put an imax in the middle of an industrial estate then yes great you have cheered up a dull place.
I assume these 1000 or so people are happy to stump up the necessary cash to pay for the demolition themselves? Or should we expect it to come out of our already extortionate and overstretched council tax?
Perhaps all the car parking charges could go up? Those of us who live in the town centre could have our parking permit costs doubled – we don’t mind! Perhaps the council would be good enough to only collect our bins fortnightly, or never grit the roads in the bad weather? Perhaps they could limit home care visits to just once or twice a week, or shut down a couple of libraries?
Hey, who cares? As long as they demolish the Imax, it'll all be worth it - just think of that 2 second uninterrupted view of the sea, should you actually find yourself in town and driving in the right direction along Bath Road, that is…
ski, west moors says...
1:29pm Wed 10 Feb 10
jobsworthwatch wrote:Stunning!!! What are you people seeing?You really should get out more or go to specsavers.
golden mouldie wrote: What a bunch of luddites!!!! How about being pro active instead. As to those who complain about the view - are you so blinkered that you cannot see that there are many miles of roads and footpaths either side of this building to see the view, and if you are coming down past the Royal bath hotel in a car, then your eyes should be on the ROAD not the view.Try driving along the East overcliff, as you approach the Russell cotes museum the view across the bay is stunning.
golden mouldie, Bournemouth says...
1:39pm Wed 10 Feb 10
jobsworthwatch wrote:As is the view from the west overcliff, southbourne coast road, canford cliffs and boscombe overcliff roads, and yes, it is a stunning view.
golden mouldie wrote:Try driving along the East overcliff, as you approach the Russell cotes museum the view across the bay is stunning.
What a bunch of luddites!!!! How about being pro active instead. As to those who complain about the view - are you so blinkered that you cannot see that there are many miles of roads and footpaths either side of this building to see the view, and if you are coming down past the Royal bath hotel in a car, then your eyes should be on the ROAD not the view.
jobsworthwatch, Bournemouth says...
1:48pm Wed 10 Feb 10
ski wrote:Certainly stunning compared to west moors!
jobsworthwatch wrote:Stunning!!! What are you people seeing?You really should get out more or go to specsavers.golden mouldie wrote: What a bunch of luddites!!!! How about being pro active instead. As to those who complain about the view - are you so blinkered that you cannot see that there are many miles of roads and footpaths either side of this building to see the view, and if you are coming down past the Royal bath hotel in a car, then your eyes should be on the ROAD not the view.Try driving along the East overcliff, as you approach the Russell cotes museum the view across the bay is stunning.
collarge, bournemouth says...
2:13pm Wed 10 Feb 10
Xchurch-man wrote:I know its 2010, but in my 2010 I don't like Castlepoint/imax places, I like great places to visit, eat, relax or spend some money. I only live down the road from the Pier and have lived in the area all my life and I like that space before the Imax dumped itself there.
Will you people get real?
Do you actually expect to see millions of people standing at the top of Bath Hill staring out to sea watching the rain rolling in from the Purbecks?
"Eee by gum mutha! aint it a grand view! much better than one of t'mill back ome! Im so glad they pulled down the Imax!"
Modern Tourist resorts are you know, actually expected to provide something in return for visitors cash. This "something" is known as facilities and tourist attractions. Sadly for you, a "view" over the pier approach towards Sandbanks from the top of Bath Hill does not quite cut it in this day and age. People want entertainments and recreational facilities. If you want Bournemouth to be anything other than a trashy nightclubby stag and hen weekend destination, then you need to provide both facilities for young families, and entertainment other than a load of night clubs, live music, arts, theatre, Imax, get the picture? You really should get used to the fact that your idea of old gentlemen in bath chairs "taking the view" died out a somewhat long time ago.
There is now the chance for Bournemouth to actually have a state of the art and now viable Imax cinema, and you want to demolish it for a "view" already filled with hundreds of buildings, most probably all far uglier than the Imax and of far less use to the community.
It's 2010 not 1910 you know, wakey wake!!!
jobsworthwatch, Bournemouth says...
2:20pm Wed 10 Feb 10
jobsworthwatch, Bournemouth says...
2:29pm Wed 10 Feb 10
jobsworthwatch wrote:..make them pay for it!
Regardless of the view, the building is entirely inappropriate for the location, it looks as if it belongs on an industrial park. Such an attraction would have been better suited to the old winter gardens site. The building has been controversial from the outset and this controversy would continue without end if the council had not acted. Residents are rightly concerned about the cost of this fiasco and with 5,500 employed at the town hall there has to be scope to meet the cost by reducing the jobsworth head count!
collarge, bournemouth says...
2:35pm Wed 10 Feb 10
madras, petts wood says...
2:40pm Wed 10 Feb 10
Syd Poumen, Poole says...
2:44pm Wed 10 Feb 10
Dorset Mitch, Dorset says...
2:59pm Wed 10 Feb 10
jobsworthwatch, Bournemouth says...
3:00pm Wed 10 Feb 10
Syd Poumen wrote:syd poohman, you make 2 negative IQ comments that contrubute nothing.
jobsworthwatch You should get out more, and learn to stop talking to yourself!
Glashen, Christchurch says...
3:09pm Wed 10 Feb 10
Gazz43, Bournemouth says...
3:15pm Wed 10 Feb 10
golden mouldie, Bournemouth says...
4:39pm Wed 10 Feb 10
Gazz43 wrote:Gazz43 - If all those that want to see it be gone, then i'm happy for it to go........... so long as they would like to pay for it, and NOT ME!!
All these desperate arguments above for trying to keep this monstrosity of an inappropriate building for this location, are simply ignoring the one most important thing. Far far far more of Bournemouth`s residents want to see it gone regardless of cost, so just keep on with your pathetic attempt to go against the over whelming tide of public opinion, your all living in cloud cookoo land and are quite frankly just a laughing stock. I live in modern times and am a very young 43 yr old thanks and was born here and fully appreciate why this building won`t be staying!
anjpops, says...
4:50pm Wed 10 Feb 10
Gazz43, Bournemouth says...
4:59pm Wed 10 Feb 10
golden mouldie wrote:Neither did the vast majority of the locals want it built in the first place, and likewise the vast majority will accept that cost of removing it is a price worth paying, if you and all the others that our massively out of touch with public opinion disagree then I guess you must carry on flogging the dead horse of a lost cause you are blindly thinking has merit. Or move out of the area where you won`t have to worry about your money being spent on what the majority want anymore.
Gazz43 wrote: All these desperate arguments above for trying to keep this monstrosity of an inappropriate building for this location, are simply ignoring the one most important thing. Far far far more of Bournemouth`s residents want to see it gone regardless of cost, so just keep on with your pathetic attempt to go against the over whelming tide of public opinion, your all living in cloud cookoo land and are quite frankly just a laughing stock. I live in modern times and am a very young 43 yr old thanks and was born here and fully appreciate why this building won`t be staying!Gazz43 - If all those that want to see it be gone, then i'm happy for it to go........... so long as they would like to pay for it, and NOT ME!! Irrespective of the view or what it looks like, only a loon or a very wealthy person would pay £7.5M for a building that is capable of being fully utilised, only to pull it down and start again. I want my taxes spent better than that.
Syd Poumen, Poole says...
5:13pm Wed 10 Feb 10
golden mouldie, Bournemouth says...
5:15pm Wed 10 Feb 10
pete furtada, says...
5:15pm Wed 10 Feb 10
Gazz43, Bournemouth says...
5:40pm Wed 10 Feb 10
Gazz43, Bournemouth says...
5:43pm Wed 10 Feb 10
golden mouldie wrote:Facebook groups:
Gazz43, can you show me where the 'majority' of Bournemouth rate payers have voted to have the imax pulled down? FYI - 1000 people on a universally accessed web site doesn't count.
Bournemouthstorm, Bournemouth (Town Centre) says...
5:59pm Wed 10 Feb 10
Xchurch-man wrote:The reason it closed was because no one went to the Imax. The reason it is still closed is bacause no one would still go, otherwise it would have opened a long time ago.
Will you people get real? Do you actually expect to see millions of people standing at the top of Bath Hill staring out to sea watching the rain rolling in from the Purbecks? "Eee by gum mutha! aint it a grand view! much better than one of t'mill back ome! Im so glad they pulled down the Imax!" Modern Tourist resorts are you know, actually expected to provide something in return for visitors cash. This "something" is known as facilities and tourist attractions. Sadly for you, a "view" over the pier approach towards Sandbanks from the top of Bath Hill does not quite cut it in this day and age. People want entertainments and recreational facilities. If you want Bournemouth to be anything other than a trashy nightclubby stag and hen weekend destination, then you need to provide both facilities for young families, and entertainment other than a load of night clubs, live music, arts, theatre, Imax, get the picture? You really should get used to the fact that your idea of old gentlemen in bath chairs "taking the view" died out a somewhat long time ago. There is now the chance for Bournemouth to actually have a state of the art and now viable Imax cinema, and you want to demolish it for a "view" already filled with hundreds of buildings, most probably all far uglier than the Imax and of far less use to the community. It's 2010 not 1910 you know, wakey wake!!!
gd58, bournemouth says...
6:06pm Wed 10 Feb 10
collarge, bournemouth says...
6:32pm Wed 10 Feb 10
gd58 wrote:aha!! your the guy that built it
With regard to those that would like the view I have to ask why is it just the IMAX that is being targeted? The Royal Bath hotel and the Pavillion Theatre both block the view. Could this be that they are not ugly buildings? £7.5m plus demolition costs to reclaim a view that we once had, albeit for 12 years, is far too much to pay especially when you consider that by parking your car and standing on the clifftop that view is still there! As ugly as the building may be it would make more commercial sense to utilise the existing building with demolition as an option only if any new venture fails.
s-pb2, Boscombe says...
7:06pm Wed 10 Feb 10
collarge, bournemouth says...
8:04pm Wed 10 Feb 10
s-pb2 wrote:The Millions that were spent building it were negligent and shear fact that no locals were consulted was pure arrogance.
You know when an election is round the corner. £7.5m to improve a 'view' is frankly negligent to the people of Bournemouth when areas such as housing, elderly care, and children's care are underfunded.
doppleganger332, Poole says...
8:38pm Wed 10 Feb 10
s-pb2, Boscombe says...
9:12pm Wed 10 Feb 10
collarge wrote:It just surprises me the council had £7.5m lying around which could be spent on the IMAX. Id rather it be spent on making sure Bournemouth's elderly, disabled, children and poor have a safe and healthy standard of living than spending it on a 'view'
s-pb2 wrote: You know when an election is round the corner. £7.5m to improve a 'view' is frankly negligent to the people of Bournemouth when areas such as housing, elderly care, and children's care are underfunded.The Millions that were spent building it were negligent and shear fact that no locals were consulted was pure arrogance. My father replaced his garage because the old one was falling apart, he decided to build it a bit bigger this time for storage. But the planning permission was refused because it would cast a shadow on the neighbors side patio. Fare enough we thought as we had not thought of that issue. This is a case of the man in the street cant get anywhere close to creating a mess like that and yet the council can. This is why it has to come down. And why is it only on the Echo web site do you meet anyone against it going, everyone else you talk to says it has to go. I am sure there are people on here who just want to wind people up. They would say its a great idea if we had a volcano.
Glashen, Christchurch says...
9:44pm Wed 10 Feb 10
s-pb2 wrote:The money was substantially the receipts of the Terrace Road car park sale, a capital receipts which I believe could not under government rules be used on current spending even if the council wanted to. This money was earmarked for the replacement of the Winter Gardens a project which was scrapped when the Conservatives gained control. I will not claim to know what the people of Bournemouth want, but if you did conduct a survey maybe knocking down the IMAX would rate as a better use of the money than another concert hall.
collarge wrote:It just surprises me the council had £7.5m lying around which could be spent on the IMAX. Id rather it be spent on making sure Bournemouth's elderly, disabled, children and poor have a safe and healthy standard of living than spending it on a 'view'
s-pb2 wrote: You know when an election is round the corner. £7.5m to improve a 'view' is frankly negligent to the people of Bournemouth when areas such as housing, elderly care, and children's care are underfunded.The Millions that were spent building it were negligent and shear fact that no locals were consulted was pure arrogance. My father replaced his garage because the old one was falling apart, he decided to build it a bit bigger this time for storage. But the planning permission was refused because it would cast a shadow on the neighbors side patio. Fare enough we thought as we had not thought of that issue. This is a case of the man in the street cant get anywhere close to creating a mess like that and yet the council can. This is why it has to come down. And why is it only on the Echo web site do you meet anyone against it going, everyone else you talk to says it has to go. I am sure there are people on here who just want to wind people up. They would say its a great idea if we had a volcano.
Nigel Blumenthal, Bournemouth says...
1:08am Thu 11 Feb 10
Buttler, says...
10:34am Thu 11 Feb 10
Xchurch-man, Christchurch says...
1:23pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Bournemouthstorm wrote:At the time it was opened there were only about a dozen or so films made in Imax format. No new releases used it.
Xchurch-man wrote: Will you people get real? Do you actually expect to see millions of people standing at the top of Bath Hill staring out to sea watching the rain rolling in from the Purbecks? "Eee by gum mutha! aint it a grand view! much better than one of t'mill back ome! Im so glad they pulled down the Imax!" Modern Tourist resorts are you know, actually expected to provide something in return for visitors cash. This "something" is known as facilities and tourist attractions. Sadly for you, a "view" over the pier approach towards Sandbanks from the top of Bath Hill does not quite cut it in this day and age. People want entertainments and recreational facilities. If you want Bournemouth to be anything other than a trashy nightclubby stag and hen weekend destination, then you need to provide both facilities for young families, and entertainment other than a load of night clubs, live music, arts, theatre, Imax, get the picture? You really should get used to the fact that your idea of old gentlemen in bath chairs "taking the view" died out a somewhat long time ago. There is now the chance for Bournemouth to actually have a state of the art and now viable Imax cinema, and you want to demolish it for a "view" already filled with hundreds of buildings, most probably all far uglier than the Imax and of far less use to the community. It's 2010 not 1910 you know, wakey wake!!!The reason it closed was because no one went to the Imax. The reason it is still closed is bacause no one would still go, otherwise it would have opened a long time ago.
enotsnihple, Hurn says...
1:33pm Thu 11 Feb 10
Nigel Blumenthal, Bournemouth says...
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MisterE, Bournemouth says...
9:06am Wed 10 Feb 10
Perhaps all the car parking charges could go up? Those of us who live in the town centre could have our parking permit costs doubled – we don’t mind! Perhaps the council would be good enough to only collect our bins fortnightly, or never grit the roads in the bad weather? Perhaps they could limit home care visits to just once or twice a week, or shut down a couple of libraries?
Hey, who cares? As long as they demolish the Imax, it'll all be worth it - just think of that 2 second uninterrupted view of the sea, should you actually find yourself in town and driving in the right direction along Bath Road, that is…