7:00am Friday 14th November 2008
AN “APPALLING” £7.8 million has been lost from the pension pot of public workers in Dorset after a “risky” investment, councillors heard.
It was announced at a full meeting of Dorset County Council that a £7.8m investment on a property in Wood Street, London, was now valued at zero after property prices plunged.
This comes after the Icelandic banking crisis where Dorset could stand to lose £28.1m after two banks went into administration.
The Dorset Pension Fund serves more than 80 public authorities in Dorset including the borough and district councils, Dorset Police, schools, Dorset Fire and Rescue Service and housing trusts.
County Councillor Richard Biggs brought up the issue at the full council meeting and said that previous reports about the investment just stated that the investment was ‘disappointing.’ He said he was “appalled” at the news that the money has been lost.
He added: “I think saying it was ‘disappointing’ was merely a smokescreen because now we have found out there will be no return.
“They put people’s pension money into a risky investment and I only found out by delving into minutes of meetings.
“And to dismiss the £7.8m saying it was part of a huge pot of money is appalling. Some of the money we lost to the Icelandic banks was pension money too.
“We can’t afford to keep making these mistakes.”
A £7.8 million mortgage was taken out in 2006 to contribute towards the total £219m cost of the London property. It was hoped that £2.5 million could be recouped from a prospective buyer of Dorset’s share in August but the deal fell through.
Chairman of the Pension Funds Committee Cllr John Lofts said: “Since July the property market – in particular the central London offices market– has deteriorated significantly and as a result of this the potential purchaser of the Wood Street property has withdrawn.
“The result of the Wood Street purchaser pulling out means the investment is now valued at less than the amount of debt.
“As a result the pension’s fund investment in Wood Street is now valued at zero – with little potential for any future value.”
The £7.8m share of the £219m property was invested in 2006 and the other owners were three other pension fund investors, including two other councils.
In order to purchase the property all the owners took out a mortgage from three separate banks to raise 75 per cent of the purchase price.
The council still has the property but the value has dropped and the council still has the mortgage to pay off.
Cllr Lofts said that when the money was invested two years ago it was “a whole different world”.
The pension fund is approximately £1.25billion, and 10 per cent of the council’s pension fund is invested in property.
Head of finance at the county council Paul Kent said that they will know if Dorset will receive any of the £28m in Icelandic banks on November 21. Interest due on the £28.1m has been calculated at £985,309 and approximately £570,000 of this is due to the county council and £415,309 is due to the Dorset Pension Fund.
pd7, Dorset says...
9:11am Fri 14 Nov 08
crispy_pants, Canford Heath says...
9:33am Fri 14 Nov 08
davep1, Dorset says...
10:22am Fri 14 Nov 08
MoordownMarc, Bournemouth says...
10:52am Fri 14 Nov 08
ned flanders, Parkstone Village says...
11:42am Fri 14 Nov 08
Laurie Marsh, brisbane says...
11:46am Fri 14 Nov 08
John T, Poole says...
12:57pm Fri 14 Nov 08
fedupwithjobsworths wrote:fedupwithjobsworth
No worries - as usual the pension deficit will be funded by private sector workers and businesses in Dorset by means of higher Council Tax Bills. It is scandalous that the average private sector worker pays more towards public sector pensions (in taxes) than they pay into their own.
fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown says...
12:59pm Fri 14 Nov 08
Laurie Marsh wrote:The problem is they never win and when they lose the public has to fund their losses. Dorset Council even employs their own fund managers to (mis)manage their Pension Fund. The Council's pension fund has been in deficit for years and the black hole has to be made up by increasing our Council Tax - if they mess up we to pay.
No-one was complaining when the potential returns were really large. To gamble on the stock market or a racehorse is just that, a gamble! Take a deep breathe and hang on (if you can)!
pd7, Dorset says...
1:57pm Fri 14 Nov 08
djd, bournemouth says...
3:38pm Fri 14 Nov 08
pd7 wrote:Not very good at either, are they ??
Why could they not make a £7.8m investment in local housung in Dorset . They are not there to make money they exist to provide a service to the Dorset residents.
omegaman, bournemouth says...
4:49pm Fri 14 Nov 08
Emulated, Bournemouth says...
6:20pm Fri 14 Nov 08
pachyderm, says...
7:58pm Fri 14 Nov 08
fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown says...
12:51pm Sun 16 Nov 08
John T wrote:Yes but ultimately all this money will have to come from the private sector – the public sector does not create wealth it just spends the wealth created by others.
fedupwithjobsworths wrote: No worries - as usual the pension deficit will be funded by private sector workers and businesses in Dorset by means of higher Council Tax Bills. It is scandalous that the average private sector worker pays more towards public sector pensions (in taxes) than they pay into their own.fedupwithjobsworth So pleased that you have no worries after all we taxpayers are already committed to paying £50 BILLION (with the possibility of this rising to £500 BILLION) to bail out the greedy private sector bankers with their platinum plated pensions and golden handshakes.
fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown says...
12:59pm Sun 16 Nov 08
omegaman wrote:The Tories do not run the Council's Pension Scheme - Jobsworths do. Also remember that it is Labour who have destroyed most of the final salary pension schemes in this country by their taxation policies. Most of the remaining final salary schemes are in the Public Sector and the rest of us are funding these through taxation.
omg - these people want to run the country as well. Wouldn't trust a Tories with the beer money let alone my pension.
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fedupwithjobsworths, Moordown says...
8:11am Fri 14 Nov 08