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£7.8m from pension pot lost on property


AN “APPALLING” £7.8 million has been lost from the pension pot of public workers in Dorset after a “risky” investment, councillors heard.

It was announced at a full meeting of Dorset County Council that a £7.8m investment on a property in Wood Street, London, was now valued at zero after property prices plunged.

This comes after the Icelandic banking crisis where Dorset could stand to lose £28.1m after two banks went into administration.

The Dorset Pension Fund serves more than 80 public authorities in Dorset including the borough and district councils, Dorset Police, schools, Dorset Fire and Rescue Service and housing trusts.

County Councillor Richard Biggs brought up the issue at the full council meeting and said that previous reports about the investment just stated that the investment was ‘disappointing.’ He said he was “appalled” at the news that the money has been lost.

He added: “I think saying it was ‘disappointing’ was merely a smokescreen because now we have found out there will be no return.

“They put people’s pension money into a risky investment and I only found out by delving into minutes of meetings.

“And to dismiss the £7.8m saying it was part of a huge pot of money is appalling. Some of the money we lost to the Icelandic banks was pension money too.

“We can’t afford to keep making these mistakes.”

A £7.8 million mortgage was taken out in 2006 to contribute towards the total £219m cost of the London property. It was hoped that £2.5 million could be recouped from a prospective buyer of Dorset’s share in August but the deal fell through.

Chairman of the Pension Funds Committee Cllr John Lofts said: “Since July the property market – in particular the central London offices market– has deteriorated significantly and as a result of this the potential purchaser of the Wood Street property has withdrawn.

“The result of the Wood Street purchaser pulling out means the investment is now valued at less than the amount of debt.

“As a result the pension’s fund investment in Wood Street is now valued at zero – with little potential for any future value.”

The £7.8m share of the £219m property was invested in 2006 and the other owners were three other pension fund investors, including two other councils.

In order to purchase the property all the owners took out a mortgage from three separate banks to raise 75 per cent of the purchase price.

The council still has the property but the value has dropped and the council still has the mortgage to pay off.

Cllr Lofts said that when the money was invested two years ago it was “a whole different world”.

The pension fund is approximately £1.25billion, and 10 per cent of the council’s pension fund is invested in property.

Head of finance at the county council Paul Kent said that they will know if Dorset will receive any of the £28m in Icelandic banks on November 21. Interest due on the £28.1m has been calculated at £985,309 and approximately £570,000 of this is due to the county council and £415,309 is due to the Dorset Pension Fund.


Comments(16)

fedupwithjobsworths says...
8:11am Fri 14 Nov 08

No worries - as usual the pension deficit will be funded by private sector workers and businesses in Dorset by means of higher Council Tax Bills. It is scandalous that the average private sector worker pays more towards public sector pensions (in taxes) than they pay into their own.

pd7 says...
9:11am Fri 14 Nov 08

So close to 36M is now possible lost. Never mind people of Dorset will continute to pay for this .

Why will not someone stand up and say OK i messed up.

crispy_pants says...
9:33am Fri 14 Nov 08

Ditto with jobsworth. The public sector is immune. There will always be enough funds somewhere. If they're really in trouble, Gordon Brown could help them with a few new ways to raise tax. I don't know what they're woried about.

davep1 says...
10:22am Fri 14 Nov 08

The council have put everything into property right accross the board. Selling of the towns historical buildings and land to developers at a devestating cost to quality of life in the town. How many millions have the un-elected council heads of department squandered and lost in greedy deals? Perhaps it is time to sack the lot of them, they seem incompitant at the very least?

MoordownMarc says...
10:52am Fri 14 Nov 08

The chickens may at last be coming home to roost in the public sector. From tragic Social Services scandals to losses of millions of pounds of our money, the spotlight is shining as never before on the incompetence and unaccountability of our public servants.
Just look at the jobs section of the gaurdian newspaper to see the lunacy that is still prevailing as we enter a recesion.
Enough is enough, we should unite and refuse to bail these fools out.

ned flanders says...
11:42am Fri 14 Nov 08

I think they (council) do a good job and you should leave them alone..

:)

Laurie Marsh says...
11:46am Fri 14 Nov 08

No-one was complaining when the potential returns were really large.
To gamble on the stock market or a racehorse is just that, a gamble!
Take a deep breathe and hang on (if you can)!

John T says...
12:57pm Fri 14 Nov 08

fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
No worries - as usual the pension deficit will be funded by private sector workers and businesses in Dorset by means of higher Council Tax Bills. It is scandalous that the average private sector worker pays more towards public sector pensions (in taxes) than they pay into their own.
fedupwithjobsworth
So pleased that you have no worries after all we taxpayers are already committed to paying £50 BILLION (with the possibility of this rising to £500 BILLION) to bail out the greedy private sector bankers with their platinum plated pensions and golden handshakes.

fedupwithjobsworths says...
12:59pm Fri 14 Nov 08

Laurie Marsh wrote:
No-one was complaining when the potential returns were really large. To gamble on the stock market or a racehorse is just that, a gamble! Take a deep breathe and hang on (if you can)!
The problem is they never win and when they lose the public has to fund their losses. Dorset Council even employs their own fund managers to (mis)manage their Pension Fund. The Council's pension fund has been in deficit for years and the black hole has to be made up by increasing our Council Tax - if they mess up we to pay.

pd7 says...
1:57pm Fri 14 Nov 08

Why could they not make a £7.8m investment in local housung in Dorset .

They are not there to make money they exist to provide a service to the Dorset residents.

djd says...
3:38pm Fri 14 Nov 08

pd7 wrote:
Why could they not make a £7.8m investment in local housung in Dorset . They are not there to make money they exist to provide a service to the Dorset residents.
Not very good at either, are they ??

omegaman says...
4:49pm Fri 14 Nov 08

omg - these people want to run the country as well. Wouldn't trust a Tories with the beer money let alone my pension.

Emulated says...
6:20pm Fri 14 Nov 08

I bet they will all still get their pensions.

pachyderm says...
7:58pm Fri 14 Nov 08

I just posted the following comment to a word-for-word identical report in the Weymouth Echo.....

"The council still has the property but the value has dropped and the council still has the mortgage to pay off"

This must sound remarkably familiar to many home "OWNERS"

At least the council can pay the mortgage, not get re-possessed or end up homeless.

One day (who knows when) the investment may pay off....meanwhile, learn by the mistake, just like the rest of the home "OWNERS" in the country, and try not to go for a "get rich quick deal" in future.

At least they didn't invest in pyramid sales...much to the dissapointment of the Egyptian Bankers !!

Meanwhile, any councilors trips to London could have free accomodation at Wood Street, if they take a tent, sleeping bag etc.
Let's see a bit of creative thinking for this site. A few bill-boards advertising Dorset, outlet selling Dorset produce etc..

fedupwithjobsworths says...
12:51pm Sun 16 Nov 08

John T wrote:
fedupwithjobsworths wrote: No worries - as usual the pension deficit will be funded by private sector workers and businesses in Dorset by means of higher Council Tax Bills. It is scandalous that the average private sector worker pays more towards public sector pensions (in taxes) than they pay into their own.
fedupwithjobsworth So pleased that you have no worries after all we taxpayers are already committed to paying £50 BILLION (with the possibility of this rising to £500 BILLION) to bail out the greedy private sector bankers with their platinum plated pensions and golden handshakes.
Yes but ultimately all this money will have to come from the private sector – the public sector does not create wealth it just spends the wealth created by others.

fedupwithjobsworths says...
12:59pm Sun 16 Nov 08

omegaman wrote:
omg - these people want to run the country as well. Wouldn't trust a Tories with the beer money let alone my pension.
The Tories do not run the Council's Pension Scheme - Jobsworths do. Also remember that it is Labour who have destroyed most of the final salary pension schemes in this country by their taxation policies. Most of the remaining final salary schemes are in the Public Sector and the rest of us are funding these through taxation.


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