Sex in the hot tub and a violent stabbing - shut-down V Club was an "accident waiting to happen" (From Thisisdorset)

So much for the previous triumphal' posts on here talking about re-opening parties.

Posts eagerly trying to promote ticket sales - whilst claiming not to be one of the owner's 'lackeys'.

We all know who was the real owner and the person running this club.

A very welcome clean up, but one that has come far far too late - as one poor chap will know.

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Just read the H&S report with e mail from Sarah Rogers to Ben Sims how can a club be complying with all there conditions but feel there is an accident waiting to happen this is a total stich up we live in a Police state there is no liberty or freedom so what if peaple get in a hot tub for christ sake go to anywhere else in the world and that is normal. And with regard to the aweful incident the management could not have stopped it, a girl was stabbed on the bus and died so are we going to take all the buses off the road. Remember 50+ people have now lost there job well done Bournemouth another own goal!!

Bob49 wrote:
So much for the previous triumphal' posts on here talking about re-opening parties.

Posts eagerly trying to promote ticket sales - whilst claiming not to be one of the owner's 'lackeys'.

We all know who was the real owner and the person running this club.

A very welcome clean up, but one that has come far far too late - as one poor chap will know.

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Busy Body. Get back in your taxi.

Hardly a surprise. If the council weren't so obsessed with the money it receives from the night time economy it would like to close all the clubs and pubs. The only drink they'd like to be available after 6pm would be a nice hot mug of cocoa
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So how long will this prominent building stay empty ? What do you do with a redundant church ?

Having seen the earlier Echo report and the apparent complete disregard to the authorities from the clubs management, I could see no other outcome to this.

what a shame....collateral!
! your move V? oh :( I do hope they didn't sell many ticketsfor there amazing reopening party Dicks

mrbelter wrote:
what a shame....collateral!

! your move V? oh :( I do hope they didn't sell many ticketsfor there amazing reopening party Dicks

The **** Jody?

Really disappointed with the council for this, V was one of the best venues to go to in Bournemouth by far! A credit to the town, not much left besides a couple of bingo halls & a wetherspoons. I think Southampton has more to offer & that's saying something!

There seems to be a lot of bitter & twisted people out there that just love to see any successful business fall. Closing this club now loses people their jobs & the once popular town will slowly deminish of any life if the council & police get there way, all late night places shut with just a seaside of blue rinses.

Hooray common sense at last nothing wrong with a few cullings of bars and clubs in the night time economy, there's a glut of them, we have more in a square mile than London but not the means to supervise or patrol them. It's not a police state we live in far from it there's not the police force to deal with all these mindless drunks who think it trendy to get rat faced puke pee in doorways and attack people. So all you whining boozhounds who feel the loss of a licensed premises is the death knell of the town deal with it because its the likes of these places that has caused the death of Bournemouth in the first place.

Good news!

Now I will get my cocoa, and attend to my curlers....

Knowit... wrote:

Bob49 wrote:
So much for the previous triumphal' posts on here talking about re-opening parties.

Posts eagerly trying to promote ticket sales - whilst claiming not to be one of the owner's 'lackeys'.

We all know who was the real owner and the person running this club.

A very welcome clean up, but one that has come far far too late - as one poor chap will know.

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Busy Body. Get back in your taxi.

Come in, Carr58, your time is up!

Baywolf wrote:
Hooray common sense at last nothing wrong with a few cullings of bars and clubs in the night time economy, there's a glut of them, we have more in a square mile than London but not the means to supervise or patrol them. It's not a police state we live in far from it there's not the police force to deal with all these mindless drunks who think it trendy to get rat faced puke pee in doorways and attack people. So all you whining boozhounds who feel the loss of a licensed premises is the death knell of the town deal with it because its the likes of these places that has caused the death of Bournemouth in the first place.

Are you deranged? The killing of Bournemouth? If your referring to the hugely profitable night life economy of the town that provides the funds for many of the other amenities of this town, then sure, kill off the nightlife. Push the student body away, loose the University figures, cripple under the mass decrease in money being brought into the town. Unfortunately this town is one of many that has far too many grumpy old people in positions of superior authority.

As for your 'square-mile' theory, you are clearly have a very ill-informed of image of this town, and that of London.

John T wrote:

Knowit... wrote:

Bob49 wrote:
So much for the previous triumphal' posts on here talking about re-opening parties.

Posts eagerly trying to promote ticket sales - whilst claiming not to be one of the owner's 'lackeys'.

We all know who was the real owner and the person running this club.

A very welcome clean up, but one that has come far far too late - as one poor chap will know.

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Busy Body. Get back in your taxi.

Come in, Carr58, your time is up!

If you have been following the V stories, He doesn't have anything to do with it anymore.Get your facts right

Simply the wrong decision all they have achieved is moving the problem elsewhere in the town ,stabbings can happen at anytime and in anyplace just ask the family of that poor schoolgirl stabbed to death on a bus on her way to school this morning ,the clubs licence should have been reinstated however with strict guidelines to have been followed by the management increased security and maybe metal detectors on the doors same as at some schools and certainly at all airports

Tickley93 wrote:

Baywolf wrote:
Hooray common sense at last nothing wrong with a few cullings of bars and clubs in the night time economy, there's a glut of them, we have more in a square mile than London but not the means to supervise or patrol them. It's not a police state we live in far from it there's not the police force to deal with all these mindless drunks who think it trendy to get rat faced puke pee in doorways and attack people. So all you whining boozhounds who feel the loss of a licensed premises is the death knell of the town deal with it because its the likes of these places that has caused the death of Bournemouth in the first place.

Are you deranged? The killing of Bournemouth? If your referring to the hugely profitable night life economy of the town that provides the funds for many of the other amenities of this town, then sure, kill off the nightlife. Push the student body away, loose the University figures, cripple under the mass decrease in money being brought into the town. Unfortunately this town is one of many that has far too many grumpy old people in positions of superior authority.

As for your 'square-mile' theory, you are clearly have a very ill-informed of image of this town, and that of London.

Profit you say...for who and where is it gone to? Certainly not for the local residents denied amenities after 9pm. As for the square mile theory this was highlighted on the South Today programme investigating the nite life of Bournemouth a year ago following a spate of drunken violence within the town centre, something that still continues. Hence my comment that Bournemouth lacks the resources to police this unwanted behaviour. Now if you say it's alright for this to happen because it profits the town then fine but spare a thought to those killed because of it ..but to criticise anyone for stating the obviouse dosnt make them old it makes them concerned residents who want more in this town by ways of family entertainment not just for you drink minded morons who can't think beyond their next pint.

"If you have been following the V stories, He doesn't have anything to do with it anymore.Get your facts right”"


Oh dear. You would think that Richard would get someone a little bit more intellectually credible to squeak up for him on here.

He was not supposed to be having anything to do with it in the first place ! He was banned from such activity. Banned through continuously bankrupting companies and not being considered a fit and proper person to be a company director.

Maybe some of the over excited, semi literate teenagers on here who are wetting their pants might like to conSider how much that fact played In their original statement that "the premises was associated with serious crime’"

For my part I was involved in the licensing trade back in the 80's and knew that there was always one or two bad apples - and I also knew that clubs and pubs came and went In their popularity. The punters will merely shrug and head off elsewhere, that is the nature of the beast. And the owner will not doubt re-appear at some later date, maybe running a venue without an alcohol licence, soft drinks only - though whether there's as much money in selling coke and such like I doubt most would know..

Knowit... wrote:

John T wrote:

Knowit... wrote:

Bob49 wrote:
So much for the previous triumphal' posts on here talking about re-opening parties.

Posts eagerly trying to promote ticket sales - whilst claiming not to be one of the owner's 'lackeys'.

We all know who was the real owner and the person running this club.

A very welcome clean up, but one that has come far far too late - as one poor chap will know.

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Busy Body. Get back in your taxi.

Come in, Carr58, your time is up!

If you have been following the V stories, He doesn't have anything to do with it anymore.Get your facts right

You are joking?
When Carr says he doesn't have anything to do with it you can take that with a pinch of salt.
He has loads of front men protecting his money laundering.
The guys a shrewd,manipulative arsehole

And if you're wondering where all hi cash has gone. Try miami.

If the place had been run properly, this would never have happened. Irresponsibility has consequences, the consequence in this case is the loss of a license. If you can't run a venue safely, you shouldn't run it. Well done, Bournemouth council, I say.

As for what to do with a redundant church, you can put a restaurant in it, turn it into flats, not every old building has to house a place to get para. It could even be a club again, just perhaps one that's run by responsible people.

Is the couple "clearly trying to having sex" relevant in any way at all?

The report clearly states that Mr.Sims spent 4 months asking Richard Carr and other personnelf for the relevant health and safety documents so obviously Richard Carr was very much involved so why try and say "he had nothing to do with it"/

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So what is Bournemouth town USP then ?. You have Southampton as city of shops and Brighton with the alternative scene. What do we want Bournemouth to be a town for ?. We need to establish ourselves as a town for something and the sooner our inept councilors get this the better our local economy will be. An art scene ? what better location than a church for an art gallery

Personally, I think Ben Sims has been more than patient and polite for requesting information in regards to Health & Safety reports and Risk Assessments.
Sending a blank Risk Assessment template? Please.

Mr Sims was quite clear as to what he wanted to see and even gave V the option of producing the correct paperwork which would mean that a visit by himself was not necessary.
The paperwork he asked for was not forthcoming and therefore begs the question that V should not be operating and admitting the public.

I'm sorry if people are upset that the club has closed but the reality is that the club was not operating safely for their patrons.....that is disrespectful and dangerous to you, the patrons.

The lack of stair rails and dark staircases, slippery floors etc. may seem like small problems to you but if you injure yourself you would like to see the club take some responsibility for that, no?
That is precisely why we have H&S legislation and Risk Assessments.

Having done many RA's in the music industry myself, believe me they are a PITA to fill in but are essential for the safety of all.

martin225 wrote:
So what is Bournemouth town USP then ?. You have Southampton as city of shops and Brighton with the alternative scene. What do we want Bournemouth to be a town for ?. We need to establish ourselves as a town for something and the sooner our inept councilors get this the better our local economy will be. An art scene ? what better location than a church for an art gallery

Bournemouth's USP? Ill take a wild guess at that big sandy thing between the sea and the cliffs!

There are some hysterical comments here tonight. Its as if these people think the whole of Bournemouth will collapse into the sea now that V is no more. Well when I wake up in the morning, i predict we will all still be here, and we will also be able to go out on Friday night and have a good night out in town in one of the numerous well run bars and clubs.

Why did the H & S not close it down earlier they seem to have waited for something to happen surely the refusal to provide the required details was a good enough reason

It's most unfortunate that the "powers that be" on the licensing committee etc who made today's decision can't see a way to solving the underlying problem, as opposed to making ill-informed and knee-jerk decisions after the event.

Closing "V" club - or any other bar in Bournemouth for that matter, will not stop anybody getting stabbed, attacked, beaten up in this town at all. Far from it and in fact, possibly the opposite.

The underlying problem needs to be addressed and resolved. Violent crime of this nature can and does occur anywhere. The moron who stabbed the guy is just as likely to go into his local Conservative Club or British Legion, neck 10 pints and stab somebody on the street outside as much as he is likely to go and do it in any nightclub in town. If he is that mentally unstable, he will do it.

It's also a shame this same committe couldn't afford the new and seemingly more professional and responsible owner of "V" Club the opportunity to turn things around. In the last day or so in these very columns he has pointed out the current "in-house" existing faults of "V" as a club and he has indicated his plans to change for the better. Why this apparently wasn't taken into account is beyond comprehension.

I think much has been made of the fact that this club had previously been connected, owned or ran from behind the scenes or whatever by the infamous Richard Carr. I won't go into that though as it's pointless as well as irrelevant and I don't want to be dragged down by the local "BBBBSB" (Bring Back the Bournemouth Bus Station Brigade) and accused of being one of his "Lackeys". I will debate the virtues and ins/outs of the Bournemouth night-time economy with anyone at anytime, as long as they are knowledgeable enough to do so. However, when they are unable to debate effectively, insult those who do not agree with them and then disappear from the debate when they are either proved wrong or simply come across an opponent with more intellect, it becomes a waste of time trying.

This weekend will not be any safer or dangerous either way out in Bournemouth town due to the closure of "V" - just like any other town centre up and down the country. The only way to make it safer is to have a more efficient Police Force, a more efficient and effective justice system and an overall more considered view of the licensing laws. Instead we have a patchwork operation between all 3 and whilst this remains, nutjobs will still be on the loose with the intent of harm like that which happened to the poor guy a few weeks back.

Lackeys to this slimeworld are upset, sad. About time in-depth H&S action taken on other locations too.

Knowit... wrote:

John T wrote:

Knowit... wrote:

Bob49 wrote:
So much for the previous triumphal' posts on here talking about re-opening parties.

Posts eagerly trying to promote ticket sales - whilst claiming not to be one of the owner's 'lackeys'.

We all know who was the real owner and the person running this club.

A very welcome clean up, but one that has come far far too late - as one poor chap will know.

.

Busy Body. Get back in your taxi.

Come in, Carr58, your time is up!

If you have been following the V stories, He doesn't have anything to do with it anymore.Get your facts right

Ha Ha Ha youve obviously just got of the Boat Lets turn it into a Mosque guaranteed to be well attended looking around our area these Days .

GOOD, Hope the place gets shut down permanently, it wasnt safe when i went last year and it wont be safe now.

MrPitiful wrote:
It's most unfortunate that the "powers that be" on the licensing committee etc who made today's decision can't see a way to solving the underlying problem, as opposed to making ill-informed and knee-jerk decisions after the event.

Closing "V" club - or any other bar in Bournemouth for that matter, will not stop anybody getting stabbed, attacked, beaten up in this town at all. Far from it and in fact, possibly the opposite.

The underlying problem needs to be addressed and resolved. Violent crime of this nature can and does occur anywhere. The moron who stabbed the guy is just as likely to go into his local Conservative Club or British Legion, neck 10 pints and stab somebody on the street outside as much as he is likely to go and do it in any nightclub in town. If he is that mentally unstable, he will do it.

It's also a shame this same committe couldn't afford the new and seemingly more professional and responsible owner of "V" Club the opportunity to turn things around. In the last day or so in these very columns he has pointed out the current "in-house" existing faults of "V" as a club and he has indicated his plans to change for the better. Why this apparently wasn't taken into account is beyond comprehension.

I think much has been made of the fact that this club had previously been connected, owned or ran from behind the scenes or whatever by the infamous Richard Carr. I won't go into that though as it's pointless as well as irrelevant and I don't want to be dragged down by the local "BBBBSB" (Bring Back the Bournemouth Bus Station Brigade) and accused of being one of his "Lackeys". I will debate the virtues and ins/outs of the Bournemouth night-time economy with anyone at anytime, as long as they are knowledgeable enough to do so. However, when they are unable to debate effectively, insult those who do not agree with them and then disappear from the debate when they are either proved wrong or simply come across an opponent with more intellect, it becomes a waste of time trying.

This weekend will not be any safer or dangerous either way out in Bournemouth town due to the closure of "V" - just like any other town centre up and down the country. The only way to make it safer is to have a more efficient Police Force, a more efficient and effective justice system and an overall more considered view of the licensing laws. Instead we have a patchwork operation between all 3 and whilst this remains, nutjobs will still be on the loose with the intent of harm like that which happened to the poor guy a few weeks back.

dearie, dear me

Is it any wonder poor Mr Carr keeps going bankrupt is this is the best he can find to defend him.

Here we have a bleat that the same poor Mr Carr should not come into this equation (of a club owned and ran by him) "as it's pointless as well as irrelevant". Rather like involving Jack the Ripper in the Ripper murders is "pointless as well as irrelevant" I suppose.

His hands were all over this and it was his incompetence (wilful or not) over H&E requirements that has led to the club's license being revoked. Not the misleading tosh about the dangers that lurk everywhere that have been put up as kind of distraction from the real causes of the revoking of the license.

But then this is the poster who gleefully put up a link to the sale of V clubs re opening, within minutes of the site putting them up. The very same poster who wails that's it's all so unfair as people "insult those who do not agree with them " - whilst blindingly ignoring his previous comment." the local "BBBBSB" (Bring Back the Bournemouth Bus Station Brigade) ". Insults eh ?

So well done to the council for belately taking the necessary action against a man whose concept of duty of care is no more than a duty of care to his pocket, irrespective of the financial and/or health costs to others. And if this new owner does have "plans to change for the better" then let him implement them, and then come back and apply for a new license.

In the meantime perhaps Mr Pitiful might care to ask himself what part "the current "in-house" existing faults of "V" as a club" led in the loss of it's license. Or why if, as he has claimed elsewhere, he has "never met/worked for/have any opinion of or am owed money by Richard Carr" does he consider that there is now a "seemingly more professional and responsible owner of "V" Club" ? How would he know the difference ?

The simple truth Mr Pitiful is that you are fooling no one - least of all yoursel. So why not yake a break and ask that nice Mr Carr for your money back from your re-opening night ticket and go and have a pleasant, safe and enjoyable night out at a club that is not, in the words of the police, "associated with serious crime”.

Bob49 wrote:

MrPitiful wrote:
It's most unfortunate that the "powers that be" on the licensing committee etc who made today's decision can't see a way to solving the underlying problem, as opposed to making ill-informed and knee-jerk decisions after the event.

Closing "V" club - or any other bar in Bournemouth for that matter, will not stop anybody getting stabbed, attacked, beaten up in this town at all. Far from it and in fact, possibly the opposite.

The underlying problem needs to be addressed and resolved. Violent crime of this nature can and does occur anywhere. The moron who stabbed the guy is just as likely to go into his local Conservative Club or British Legion, neck 10 pints and stab somebody on the street outside as much as he is likely to go and do it in any nightclub in town. If he is that mentally unstable, he will do it.

It's also a shame this same committe couldn't afford the new and seemingly more professional and responsible owner of "V" Club the opportunity to turn things around. In the last day or so in these very columns he has pointed out the current "in-house" existing faults of "V" as a club and he has indicated his plans to change for the better. Why this apparently wasn't taken into account is beyond comprehension.

I think much has been made of the fact that this club had previously been connected, owned or ran from behind the scenes or whatever by the infamous Richard Carr. I won't go into that though as it's pointless as well as irrelevant and I don't want to be dragged down by the local "BBBBSB" (Bring Back the Bournemouth Bus Station Brigade) and accused of being one of his "Lackeys". I will debate the virtues and ins/outs of the Bournemouth night-time economy with anyone at anytime, as long as they are knowledgeable enough to do so. However, when they are unable to debate effectively, insult those who do not agree with them and then disappear from the debate when they are either proved wrong or simply come across an opponent with more intellect, it becomes a waste of time trying.

This weekend will not be any safer or dangerous either way out in Bournemouth town due to the closure of "V" - just like any other town centre up and down the country. The only way to make it safer is to have a more efficient Police Force, a more efficient and effective justice system and an overall more considered view of the licensing laws. Instead we have a patchwork operation between all 3 and whilst this remains, nutjobs will still be on the loose with the intent of harm like that which happened to the poor guy a few weeks back.

dearie, dear me

Is it any wonder poor Mr Carr keeps going bankrupt is this is the best he can find to defend him.

Here we have a bleat that the same poor Mr Carr should not come into this equation (of a club owned and ran by him) "as it's pointless as well as irrelevant". Rather like involving Jack the Ripper in the Ripper murders is "pointless as well as irrelevant" I suppose.

His hands were all over this and it was his incompetence (wilful or not) over H&E requirements that has led to the club's license being revoked. Not the misleading tosh about the dangers that lurk everywhere that have been put up as kind of distraction from the real causes of the revoking of the license.

But then this is the poster who gleefully put up a link to the sale of V clubs re opening, within minutes of the site putting them up. The very same poster who wails that's it's all so unfair as people "insult those who do not agree with them " - whilst blindingly ignoring his previous comment." the local "BBBBSB" (Bring Back the Bournemouth Bus Station Brigade) ". Insults eh ?

So well done to the council for belately taking the necessary action against a man whose concept of duty of care is no more than a duty of care to his pocket, irrespective of the financial and/or health costs to others. And if this new owner does have "plans to change for the better" then let him implement them, and then come back and apply for a new license.

In the meantime perhaps Mr Pitiful might care to ask himself what part "the current "in-house" existing faults of "V" as a club" led in the loss of it's license. Or why if, as he has claimed elsewhere, he has "never met/worked for/have any opinion of or am owed money by Richard Carr" does he consider that there is now a "seemingly more professional and responsible owner of "V" Club" ? How would he know the difference ?

The simple truth Mr Pitiful is that you are fooling no one - least of all yoursel. So why not yake a break and ask that nice Mr Carr for your money back from your re-opening night ticket and go and have a pleasant, safe and enjoyable night out at a club that is not, in the words of the police, "associated with serious crime”.

I'll go with that Bob. :)

Bob49 wrote:

MrPitiful wrote:
It's most unfortunate that the "powers that be" on the licensing committee etc who made today's decision can't see a way to solving the underlying problem, as opposed to making ill-informed and knee-jerk decisions after the event.

Closing "V" club - or any other bar in Bournemouth for that matter, will not stop anybody getting stabbed, attacked, beaten up in this town at all. Far from it and in fact, possibly the opposite.

The underlying problem needs to be addressed and resolved. Violent crime of this nature can and does occur anywhere. The moron who stabbed the guy is just as likely to go into his local Conservative Club or British Legion, neck 10 pints and stab somebody on the street outside as much as he is likely to go and do it in any nightclub in town. If he is that mentally unstable, he will do it.

It's also a shame this same committe couldn't afford the new and seemingly more professional and responsible owner of "V" Club the opportunity to turn things around. In the last day or so in these very columns he has pointed out the current "in-house" existing faults of "V" as a club and he has indicated his plans to change for the better. Why this apparently wasn't taken into account is beyond comprehension.

I think much has been made of the fact that this club had previously been connected, owned or ran from behind the scenes or whatever by the infamous Richard Carr. I won't go into that though as it's pointless as well as irrelevant and I don't want to be dragged down by the local "BBBBSB" (Bring Back the Bournemouth Bus Station Brigade) and accused of being one of his "Lackeys". I will debate the virtues and ins/outs of the Bournemouth night-time economy with anyone at anytime, as long as they are knowledgeable enough to do so. However, when they are unable to debate effectively, insult those who do not agree with them and then disappear from the debate when they are either proved wrong or simply come across an opponent with more intellect, it becomes a waste of time trying.

This weekend will not be any safer or dangerous either way out in Bournemouth town due to the closure of "V" - just like any other town centre up and down the country. The only way to make it safer is to have a more efficient Police Force, a more efficient and effective justice system and an overall more considered view of the licensing laws. Instead we have a patchwork operation between all 3 and whilst this remains, nutjobs will still be on the loose with the intent of harm like that which happened to the poor guy a few weeks back.

dearie, dear me

Is it any wonder poor Mr Carr keeps going bankrupt is this is the best he can find to defend him.

Here we have a bleat that the same poor Mr Carr should not come into this equation (of a club owned and ran by him) "as it's pointless as well as irrelevant". Rather like involving Jack the Ripper in the Ripper murders is "pointless as well as irrelevant" I suppose.

His hands were all over this and it was his incompetence (wilful or not) over H&E requirements that has led to the club's license being revoked. Not the misleading tosh about the dangers that lurk everywhere that have been put up as kind of distraction from the real causes of the revoking of the license.

But then this is the poster who gleefully put up a link to the sale of V clubs re opening, within minutes of the site putting them up. The very same poster who wails that's it's all so unfair as people "insult those who do not agree with them " - whilst blindingly ignoring his previous comment." the local "BBBBSB" (Bring Back the Bournemouth Bus Station Brigade) ". Insults eh ?

So well done to the council for belately taking the necessary action against a man whose concept of duty of care is no more than a duty of care to his pocket, irrespective of the financial and/or health costs to others. And if this new owner does have "plans to change for the better" then let him implement them, and then come back and apply for a new license.

In the meantime perhaps Mr Pitiful might care to ask himself what part "the current "in-house" existing faults of "V" as a club" led in the loss of it's license. Or why if, as he has claimed elsewhere, he has "never met/worked for/have any opinion of or am owed money by Richard Carr" does he consider that there is now a "seemingly more professional and responsible owner of "V" Club" ? How would he know the difference ?

The simple truth Mr Pitiful is that you are fooling no one - least of all yoursel. So why not yake a break and ask that nice Mr Carr for your money back from your re-opening night ticket and go and have a pleasant, safe and enjoyable night out at a club that is not, in the words of the police, "associated with serious crime”.

I'll go with that Bob. :)

Talkingheadera wrote:
And if you're wondering where all hi cash has gone. Try miami.

You are correct!

I feel a bit sorry for all the people who have lost their jobs there now. Is difficult to find new ones at the moment in the same industry. Mainly for the managers.

Mr Carr will try to leave the country now if he can I reckon. But I doubt the police will let him.

They'll probably try to sell a load of the assets in the venue now to pay off some debts. Their creditors will hear of their license being revoked and they'll be after them now as they know their revenue stream has stopped. I would not like to be in Mr Carr's shoes now. Surely he can't go bankrupt twice can he? Especially with his restrictions.

But you see how The Echo have made it all very public? Front pages and very in depth online. And they know it too as it's all aimed at a man who is extremely disliked and honestly, good job.

The church probably won't be able to get a license to open as a club for many years now. An application would have to be for something else. But doubt anyone will make money there again.

Other venue round the back should be a Nandos or something which would probably work there.

Hitchcock9 wrote:
Really disappointed with the council for this, V was one of the best venues to go to in Bournemouth by far! A credit to the town, not much left besides a couple of bingo halls & a wetherspoons. I think Southampton has more to offer & that's saying something!

go to Southampton then!! There are more than enough bars in Bournemouth

Ive said it 100 times on here and anyone with an ounce of brain matter will know where all the trouble is in Bournemouth, its the bars not the clubs! Granted this was not run very well befor but you cant blame the next owners. Just five years ago you could go out to Bournemouth at night and enjoy some good electronic music and have no fear of louts (if you kept away from walkabout)
Now all the decent music has gone and its all little bars like certain lad holiday destinations.

Look at Ibiza and compair it with say Kavos, if anyone has been to Ibiza there is no trouble but you see places with little bars instead of proper night clubs in other holiday resorts and that is where the trouble is!

Put Bournemouths nightlife back to what it was in the late 90s early 2000s this will keep all the louts out.

Anyone who thinks its the proper clubs that start the trouble is very much out of the loop!

I have had enough of this clap trap for one I do not and have never owned V I have been a consultant from the start creating yet another succesful venue for Bournemouth Yesterday was a sham a discrace that in England the Police have manipulated the council to revoke the License the new owners would have done a good job and where they go from here will be very expensive and the Police know this.
You may love me or hate me but I am sure that most of you have never met me but in this lovely green eyed town what should I expect. The main thing is this 50+ people have lost there jobs and yes you are correct these actions have created a big problem for the previous club owners as there are creditors to be paid. But the Councillors and the Police do not care about this. The clubs closure is a travesty for Bournemouth and for the 3000 people a week who used to go to V but guess what the authorities will still all get there pay cheques at the end of the month and they do not give a dam.And for the record I do not have a stash of money and I am out of work but guess what I will be back because I will get back up dust myself down and find away forward but guess what Bournemouth and me are done.And lastly I hear they are going to rename it Bournemouth-on-Sea a far cry from the clubbing Capital of the south.I will just jog your memory's this is what I created for the area; Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur
ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste
r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint,
Wiggle and then V so all of the people who make derogatory comments about me perhaps you should consider how many people have worked for me and how much wealth that has created especially for Bob49 the Taxi driver and all of your mates! And after 25 years in the Industry including being the Chairman of a PLC Listed Company, do you not find it odd that all of a sudden I am not a fit and proper person to be involved in a Licensed premises.

TheGreenHornet wrote:

Talkingheadera wrote:
And if you're wondering where all hi cash has gone. Try miami.

You are correct!

I feel a bit sorry for all the people who have lost their jobs there now. Is difficult to find new ones at the moment in the same industry. Mainly for the managers.

Mr Carr will try to leave the country now if he can I reckon. But I doubt the police will let him.

They'll probably try to sell a load of the assets in the venue now to pay off some debts. Their creditors will hear of their license being revoked and they'll be after them now as they know their revenue stream has stopped. I would not like to be in Mr Carr's shoes now. Surely he can't go bankrupt twice can he? Especially with his restrictions.

But you see how The Echo have made it all very public? Front pages and very in depth online. And they know it too as it's all aimed at a man who is extremely disliked and honestly, good job.

The church probably won't be able to get a license to open as a club for many years now. An application would have to be for something else. But doubt anyone will make money there again.

Other venue round the back should be a Nandos or something which would probably work there.

The v club was in jim beehams name but its all Carrs laundered money.

Ooh - Old "ex-licensee", "husband of council employee" & self appointed "local anti-council-rep" Bob49 & the BBBBSB are well & truly rattled & now Mr Richard Carr throws his hat into the ring.

Today is gonna get interesting.

Happy Friday folks. I'm back in town in the early hours Saturday after a long days work ( no Bob49, not for Mr Carr) so I'll catch up then!

carr58 wrote:
I have had enough of this clap trap for one I do not and have never owned V I have been a consultant from the start creating yet another succesful venue for Bournemouth Yesterday was a sham a discrace that in England the Police have manipulated the council to revoke the License the new owners would have done a good job and where they go from here will be very expensive and the Police know this.
You may love me or hate me but I am sure that most of you have never met me but in this lovely green eyed town what should I expect. The main thing is this 50+ people have lost there jobs and yes you are correct these actions have created a big problem for the previous club owners as there are creditors to be paid. But the Councillors and the Police do not care about this. The clubs closure is a travesty for Bournemouth and for the 3000 people a week who used to go to V but guess what the authorities will still all get there pay cheques at the end of the month and they do not give a dam.And for the record I do not have a stash of money and I am out of work but guess what I will be back because I will get back up dust myself down and find away forward but guess what Bournemouth and me are done.And lastly I hear they are going to rename it Bournemouth-on-Sea a far cry from the clubbing Capital of the south.I will just jog your memory's this is what I created for the area; Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur

ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste

r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint,

Wiggle and then V so all of the people who make derogatory comments about me perhaps you should consider how many people have worked for me and how much wealth that has created especially for Bob49 the Taxi driver and all of your mates! And after 25 years in the Industry including being the Chairman of a PLC Listed Company, do you not find it odd that all of a sudden I am not a fit and proper person to be involved in a Licensed premises.

Richard
Nobody's disputing that you're not a shrewd operator and know you're business.
But we all know that you don't give a **** about anything other than lining you're own pockets.
We all know you laundered money,hid it instead of paying you're debts.
Time and time again you did the same thing. You do everything to not pay or take as long as you can to pay you're debts.
You treat you're staff horrendously.
You've said before you're done with bournemouth, so jet off to Miami with youre ill gotten gains and be a little fish in a big pond.

Oh and as to the wealth created by 50 jobs.
Most will be on minimum wage,students.low paid staff.
Hardly creating wealth as they don't have much disposable income.

carr58 says...
8:33am Fri 8 Mar 13
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"but guess what Bournemouth and me are done."
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I've heard this promise before, fingers crossed this time then!
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You accuse the Police of "manipulating" the council why if they believed you were a fit and proper person would they do this and why would someone as experienced as yourself not want good relationships with the Police, Council and health and safety officers, that the smallest private club know are essential if they are to continue to operate.

carr58 wrote:
I have had enough of this clap trap for one I do not and have never owned V I have been a consultant from the start creating yet another succesful venue for Bournemouth Yesterday was a sham a discrace that in England the Police have manipulated the council to revoke the License the new owners would have done a good job and where they go from here will be very expensive and the Police know this.
You may love me or hate me but I am sure that most of you have never met me but in this lovely green eyed town what should I expect. The main thing is this 50+ people have lost there jobs and yes you are correct these actions have created a big problem for the previous club owners as there are creditors to be paid. But the Councillors and the Police do not care about this. The clubs closure is a travesty for Bournemouth and for the 3000 people a week who used to go to V but guess what the authorities will still all get there pay cheques at the end of the month and they do not give a dam.And for the record I do not have a stash of money and I am out of work but guess what I will be back because I will get back up dust myself down and find away forward but guess what Bournemouth and me are done.And lastly I hear they are going to rename it Bournemouth-on-Sea a far cry from the clubbing Capital of the south.I will just jog your memory's this is what I created for the area; Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur

ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste

r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint,

Wiggle and then V so all of the people who make derogatory comments about me perhaps you should consider how many people have worked for me and how much wealth that has created especially for Bob49 the Taxi driver and all of your mates! And after 25 years in the Industry including being the Chairman of a PLC Listed Company, do you not find it odd that all of a sudden I am not a fit and proper person to be involved in a Licensed premises.

Oh dear. Someone's not happy. Maybe we can have whip-round to buy him a one-way plane ticket? :-)

carr58 wrote:
I have had enough of this clap trap for one I do not and have never owned V I have been a consultant from the start creating yet another succesful venue for Bournemouth Yesterday was a sham a discrace that in England the Police have manipulated the council to revoke the License the new owners would have done a good job and where they go from here will be very expensive and the Police know this.
You may love me or hate me but I am sure that most of you have never met me but in this lovely green eyed town what should I expect. The main thing is this 50+ people have lost there jobs and yes you are correct these actions have created a big problem for the previous club owners as there are creditors to be paid. But the Councillors and the Police do not care about this. The clubs closure is a travesty for Bournemouth and for the 3000 people a week who used to go to V but guess what the authorities will still all get there pay cheques at the end of the month and they do not give a dam.And for the record I do not have a stash of money and I am out of work but guess what I will be back because I will get back up dust myself down and find away forward but guess what Bournemouth and me are done.And lastly I hear they are going to rename it Bournemouth-on-Sea a far cry from the clubbing Capital of the south.I will just jog your memory's this is what I created for the area; Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur

ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste

r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint,

Wiggle and then V so all of the people who make derogatory comments about me perhaps you should consider how many people have worked for me and how much wealth that has created especially for Bob49 the Taxi driver and all of your mates! And after 25 years in the Industry including being the Chairman of a PLC Listed Company, do you not find it odd that all of a sudden I am not a fit and proper person to be involved in a Licensed premises.

Mr Carr is currently being investigated for breaking a BRU (Bankruptcy Restriction Undertaking) and money laundering by the police, for his involvement with V and other exploits. How stupid must you be to honestly think a nightclub requires a consultant, highly overpaid, and swans about likes they own they place without getting caught? Not to mention someone who lost £millions. That would surely make them un-approachable for any business to even consider using their services?

Mr Carr and Mr Beedham had a deal under the table and they are being investigated for it.

To go bankrupt and loose £11m is not going to be viewed lightly for many years too. Publicly and in business.

Somebody told me JAMIES had been looking for a site in Bournemouth? (Italian please ... Not Union Jacks!)

Tickley93 wrote:

Baywolf wrote:
Hooray common sense at last nothing wrong with a few cullings of bars and clubs in the night time economy, there's a glut of them, we have more in a square mile than London but not the means to supervise or patrol them. It's not a police state we live in far from it there's not the police force to deal with all these mindless drunks who think it trendy to get rat faced puke pee in doorways and attack people. So all you whining boozhounds who feel the loss of a licensed premises is the death knell of the town deal with it because its the likes of these places that has caused the death of Bournemouth in the first place.

Are you deranged? The killing of Bournemouth? If your referring to the hugely profitable night life economy of the town that provides the funds for many of the other amenities of this town, then sure, kill off the nightlife. Push the student body away, loose the University figures, cripple under the mass decrease in money being brought into the town. Unfortunately this town is one of many that has far too many grumpy old people in positions of superior authority.

As for your 'square-mile' theory, you are clearly have a very ill-informed of image of this town, and that of London.

Baywolf is right, the mass of clubs and bars in the town is slowly killing it. Take a look at Brighton. It too went through the same cycle until the drugs and crime almost destroyed it. Bars and Clubs only cater for a certain type of person and the money they bring into the town doesn't fix the harm that comes with it.
Personally, I'd prefer a clean safe town without litter and drunks and fighting and anti-social behaviour. A seaside town has far more to offer than just catering for brawling yobs who are full of lager and cocaine. Families and tourists have money too.
Maybe with a few less clubs some of the Students might actually get some work done rather than using their student loans to get drunk every night.

Adrian XX wrote:
Is the couple "clearly trying to having sex" relevant in any way at all?

Health and safety issue possibly? what do you think?

MrPitiful wrote:
It's most unfortunate that the "powers that be" on the licensing committee etc who made today's decision can't see a way to solving the underlying problem, as opposed to making ill-informed and knee-jerk decisions after the event.

Closing "V" club - or any other bar in Bournemouth for that matter, will not stop anybody getting stabbed, attacked, beaten up in this town at all. Far from it and in fact, possibly the opposite.

The underlying problem needs to be addressed and resolved. Violent crime of this nature can and does occur anywhere. The moron who stabbed the guy is just as likely to go into his local Conservative Club or British Legion, neck 10 pints and stab somebody on the street outside as much as he is likely to go and do it in any nightclub in town. If he is that mentally unstable, he will do it.

It's also a shame this same committe couldn't afford the new and seemingly more professional and responsible owner of "V" Club the opportunity to turn things around. In the last day or so in these very columns he has pointed out the current "in-house" existing faults of "V" as a club and he has indicated his plans to change for the better. Why this apparently wasn't taken into account is beyond comprehension.

I think much has been made of the fact that this club had previously been connected, owned or ran from behind the scenes or whatever by the infamous Richard Carr. I won't go into that though as it's pointless as well as irrelevant and I don't want to be dragged down by the local "BBBBSB" (Bring Back the Bournemouth Bus Station Brigade) and accused of being one of his "Lackeys". I will debate the virtues and ins/outs of the Bournemouth night-time economy with anyone at anytime, as long as they are knowledgeable enough to do so. However, when they are unable to debate effectively, insult those who do not agree with them and then disappear from the debate when they are either proved wrong or simply come across an opponent with more intellect, it becomes a waste of time trying.

This weekend will not be any safer or dangerous either way out in Bournemouth town due to the closure of "V" - just like any other town centre up and down the country. The only way to make it safer is to have a more efficient Police Force, a more efficient and effective justice system and an overall more considered view of the licensing laws. Instead we have a patchwork operation between all 3 and whilst this remains, nutjobs will still be on the loose with the intent of harm like that which happened to the poor guy a few weeks back.

"The only way to make it safer is to have a more efficient Police Force, a more efficient and effective justice system and an overall more considered view of the licensing laws."

What about a few more respectful and better behaved people? Not the coke fuelled wannabes who are so desparate to be somebody that they stab someone in an attempt to make themselves infamous.

Mr Carr reminds us he has been responsible for setting up the following: Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur
ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste
r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint,

Wiggle and then V.

And how many of these bars/clubs have ceased trading or gone bankrupt leaving a trail of creditors?

Dont drop litter wrote:

Tickley93 wrote:

Baywolf wrote:
Hooray common sense at last nothing wrong with a few cullings of bars and clubs in the night time economy, there's a glut of them, we have more in a square mile than London but not the means to supervise or patrol them. It's not a police state we live in far from it there's not the police force to deal with all these mindless drunks who think it trendy to get rat faced puke pee in doorways and attack people. So all you whining boozhounds who feel the loss of a licensed premises is the death knell of the town deal with it because its the likes of these places that has caused the death of Bournemouth in the first place.

Are you deranged? The killing of Bournemouth? If your referring to the hugely profitable night life economy of the town that provides the funds for many of the other amenities of this town, then sure, kill off the nightlife. Push the student body away, loose the University figures, cripple under the mass decrease in money being brought into the town. Unfortunately this town is one of many that has far too many grumpy old people in positions of superior authority.

As for your 'square-mile' theory, you are clearly have a very ill-informed of image of this town, and that of London.

Baywolf is right, the mass of clubs and bars in the town is slowly killing it. Take a look at Brighton. It too went through the same cycle until the drugs and crime almost destroyed it. Bars and Clubs only cater for a certain type of person and the money they bring into the town doesn't fix the harm that comes with it.
Personally, I'd prefer a clean safe town without litter and drunks and fighting and anti-social behaviour. A seaside town has far more to offer than just catering for brawling yobs who are full of lager and cocaine. Families and tourists have money too.
Maybe with a few less clubs some of the Students might actually get some work done rather than using their student loans to get drunk every night.

It is a matter of balance isn't it, I wouldn't won't to go back to the 1970s but there are big rewards from running a successful club and apparently a cavalier attitude to public safety increases those profits.
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The only way to promote and encourage the high standards of management that are needed is to come down heavily on those people and establishments that fail to meet those standards. This decision sends a message of what is required and what is unacceptable,

carr58 wrote:
I have had enough of this clap trap for one I do not and have never owned V I have been a consultant from the start creating yet another succesful venue for Bournemouth Yesterday was a sham a discrace that in England the Police have manipulated the council to revoke the License the new owners would have done a good job and where they go from here will be very expensive and the Police know this.
You may love me or hate me but I am sure that most of you have never met me but in this lovely green eyed town what should I expect. The main thing is this 50+ people have lost there jobs and yes you are correct these actions have created a big problem for the previous club owners as there are creditors to be paid. But the Councillors and the Police do not care about this. The clubs closure is a travesty for Bournemouth and for the 3000 people a week who used to go to V but guess what the authorities will still all get there pay cheques at the end of the month and they do not give a dam.And for the record I do not have a stash of money and I am out of work but guess what I will be back because I will get back up dust myself down and find away forward but guess what Bournemouth and me are done.And lastly I hear they are going to rename it Bournemouth-on-Sea a far cry from the clubbing Capital of the south.I will just jog your memory's this is what I created for the area; Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur

ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste

r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint,

Wiggle and then V so all of the people who make derogatory comments about me perhaps you should consider how many people have worked for me and how much wealth that has created especially for Bob49 the Taxi driver and all of your mates! And after 25 years in the Industry including being the Chairman of a PLC Listed Company, do you not find it odd that all of a sudden I am not a fit and proper person to be involved in a Licensed premises.

Richard,
I can see that you very proud of all that you have acheived - not many on here have been as successful. Unfortunately, it can't be denied that due to the nature of your activities that there are negatives. Everywhere that there are clubs and bars there is drug use, antisocial behavour and crime - it comes with the territory. Those things also tarnish the image of a town. Urban decay and vandalism drive people out of the high streets, shops and other attractions. It's undeniable.
As you're are currently out of work, maybe you could rent a pressure washer and go and clean some of the chewing gum off the pavements to help tidy up the place.

TheGreenHornet wrote:

carr58 wrote:
I have had enough of this clap trap for one I do not and have never owned V I have been a consultant from the start creating yet another succesful venue for Bournemouth Yesterday was a sham a discrace that in England the Police have manipulated the council to revoke the License the new owners would have done a good job and where they go from here will be very expensive and the Police know this.
You may love me or hate me but I am sure that most of you have never met me but in this lovely green eyed town what should I expect. The main thing is this 50+ people have lost there jobs and yes you are correct these actions have created a big problem for the previous club owners as there are creditors to be paid. But the Councillors and the Police do not care about this. The clubs closure is a travesty for Bournemouth and for the 3000 people a week who used to go to V but guess what the authorities will still all get there pay cheques at the end of the month and they do not give a dam.And for the record I do not have a stash of money and I am out of work but guess what I will be back because I will get back up dust myself down and find away forward but guess what Bournemouth and me are done.And lastly I hear they are going to rename it Bournemouth-on-Sea a far cry from the clubbing Capital of the south.I will just jog your memory's this is what I created for the area; Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur


ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste


r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint,


Wiggle and then V so all of the people who make derogatory comments about me perhaps you should consider how many people have worked for me and how much wealth that has created especially for Bob49 the Taxi driver and all of your mates! And after 25 years in the Industry including being the Chairman of a PLC Listed Company, do you not find it odd that all of a sudden I am not a fit and proper person to be involved in a Licensed premises.

Mr Carr is currently being investigated for breaking a BRU (Bankruptcy Restriction Undertaking) and money laundering by the police, for his involvement with V and other exploits. How stupid must you be to honestly think a nightclub requires a consultant, highly overpaid, and swans about likes they own they place without getting caught? Not to mention someone who lost £millions. That would surely make them un-approachable for any business to even consider using their services?

Mr Carr and Mr Beedham had a deal under the table and they are being investigated for it.

To go bankrupt and loose £11m is not going to be viewed lightly for many years too. Publicly and in business.

Exactly right.
And if he's that broke like he should be how's he still living around Lilliput.?
Cash under the mattress?
Shouldn't he be knocking on dave wells' door begging for a bedsit?
Maybe housing benefit can tell us if they're paying his rent as to go bankrupt in that way shoukd mean you're penniless. He's been seen driving quite an expensive merc.
Consultant my arse. Jim worked for him for years so would need a consultant. What he would need though is money to buy the business which of course came in sack loads of cash from mr carr, or was it mr Carrs sister who'd been concealing it?

Dont drop litter wrote:

carr58 wrote:
I have had enough of this clap trap for one I do not and have never owned V I have been a consultant from the start creating yet another succesful venue for Bournemouth Yesterday was a sham a discrace that in England the Police have manipulated the council to revoke the License the new owners would have done a good job and where they go from here will be very expensive and the Police know this.
You may love me or hate me but I am sure that most of you have never met me but in this lovely green eyed town what should I expect. The main thing is this 50+ people have lost there jobs and yes you are correct these actions have created a big problem for the previous club owners as there are creditors to be paid. But the Councillors and the Police do not care about this. The clubs closure is a travesty for Bournemouth and for the 3000 people a week who used to go to V but guess what the authorities will still all get there pay cheques at the end of the month and they do not give a dam.And for the record I do not have a stash of money and I am out of work but guess what I will be back because I will get back up dust myself down and find away forward but guess what Bournemouth and me are done.And lastly I hear they are going to rename it Bournemouth-on-Sea a far cry from the clubbing Capital of the south.I will just jog your memory's this is what I created for the area; Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur


ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste


r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint,


Wiggle and then V so all of the people who make derogatory comments about me perhaps you should consider how many people have worked for me and how much wealth that has created especially for Bob49 the Taxi driver and all of your mates! And after 25 years in the Industry including being the Chairman of a PLC Listed Company, do you not find it odd that all of a sudden I am not a fit and proper person to be involved in a Licensed premises.

Richard,
I can see that you very proud of all that you have acheived - not many on here have been as successful. Unfortunately, it can't be denied that due to the nature of your activities that there are negatives. Everywhere that there are clubs and bars there is drug use, antisocial behavour and crime - it comes with the territory. Those things also tarnish the image of a town. Urban decay and vandalism drive people out of the high streets, shops and other attractions. It's undeniable.
As you're are currently out of work, maybe you could rent a pressure washer and go and clean some of the chewing gum off the pavements to help tidy up the place.

" not many on here have been as successful."
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and not many have been involved with so many wound up companies and been made personally bankrupt, IMHO a strange definition of successful.

TheGreenHornet wrote:

carr58 wrote:
I have had enough of this clap trap for one I do not and have never owned V I have been a consultant from the start creating yet another succesful venue for Bournemouth Yesterday was a sham a discrace that in England the Police have manipulated the council to revoke the License the new owners would have done a good job and where they go from here will be very expensive and the Police know this.
You may love me or hate me but I am sure that most of you have never met me but in this lovely green eyed town what should I expect. The main thing is this 50+ people have lost there jobs and yes you are correct these actions have created a big problem for the previous club owners as there are creditors to be paid. But the Councillors and the Police do not care about this. The clubs closure is a travesty for Bournemouth and for the 3000 people a week who used to go to V but guess what the authorities will still all get there pay cheques at the end of the month and they do not give a dam.And for the record I do not have a stash of money and I am out of work but guess what I will be back because I will get back up dust myself down and find away forward but guess what Bournemouth and me are done.And lastly I hear they are going to rename it Bournemouth-on-Sea a far cry from the clubbing Capital of the south.I will just jog your memory's this is what I created for the area; Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur


ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste


r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint,


Wiggle and then V so all of the people who make derogatory comments about me perhaps you should consider how many people have worked for me and how much wealth that has created especially for Bob49 the Taxi driver and all of your mates! And after 25 years in the Industry including being the Chairman of a PLC Listed Company, do you not find it odd that all of a sudden I am not a fit and proper person to be involved in a Licensed premises.

Mr Carr is currently being investigated for breaking a BRU (Bankruptcy Restriction Undertaking) and money laundering by the police, for his involvement with V and other exploits. How stupid must you be to honestly think a nightclub requires a consultant, highly overpaid, and swans about likes they own they place without getting caught? Not to mention someone who lost £millions. That would surely make them un-approachable for any business to even consider using their services?

Mr Carr and Mr Beedham had a deal under the table and they are being investigated for it.

To go bankrupt and loose £11m is not going to be viewed lightly for many years too. Publicly and in business.

Perhaps you should change your username to GreenEyedMonster? Revelling in someone else's downfall is very unbecoming you know.

Green Hornet ummm a Jealous being with a deadly sting but with the IQ of 1.

Like him or not, at least Mr Carr gets off his behind and creates employment in the town. Whether he makes money for himself in the process of doing it is rather irrelevant to the fact that jobs are created (and I suspect most of then are NOT at minimum wage), buildings that might otherwise be disused are occupied and large amount of business rates are being paid. I just don't see what the downside for most people is. They moan about the night time economy and yet the vast majority of the moaners do not go into town at night and would not do so even if this "night-time economy" did not exist. Like it or not, the clubs and bars bring large amounts of people into the town, creating many jobs in peripheral industries such as taxis and hotels.

It especially makes me fume when I hear taxi drivers complaining. Do they really imagine that the lovely, sober young families that they think willl flood into town once all the bars and clubs have gone will pay their council dictated rip-off prices when their sobriety means they can park the car for a couple of quid?

A lot of the people that complain about the night time economy are, in my book, the same as people that complain about homo-sexuality. It doesn't actually affect them but they know it goes on and they don't like it.

carr58 wrote:
I have had enough of this clap trap for one I do not and have never owned V I have been a consultant from the start creating yet another succesful venue for Bournemouth Yesterday was a sham a discrace that in England the Police have manipulated the council to revoke the License the new owners would have done a good job and where they go from here will be very expensive and the Police know this.
You may love me or hate me but I am sure that most of you have never met me but in this lovely green eyed town what should I expect. The main thing is this 50+ people have lost there jobs and yes you are correct these actions have created a big problem for the previous club owners as there are creditors to be paid. But the Councillors and the Police do not care about this. The clubs closure is a travesty for Bournemouth and for the 3000 people a week who used to go to V but guess what the authorities will still all get there pay cheques at the end of the month and they do not give a dam.And for the record I do not have a stash of money and I am out of work but guess what I will be back because I will get back up dust myself down and find away forward but guess what Bournemouth and me are done.And lastly I hear they are going to rename it Bournemouth-on-Sea a far cry from the clubbing Capital of the south.I will just jog your memory's this is what I created for the area; Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur

ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste

r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint,

Wiggle and then V so all of the people who make derogatory comments about me perhaps you should consider how many people have worked for me and how much wealth that has created especially for Bob49 the Taxi driver and all of your mates! And after 25 years in the Industry including being the Chairman of a PLC Listed Company, do you not find it odd that all of a sudden I am not a fit and proper person to be involved in a Licensed premises.

this is what I created for the area; Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur

ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste

r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint,

Wiggle and then V.


AND a chairman of a PLC.

But you're potless? Either your pants are on fire or you put all that effort for nothing?

Hmm answers on a post card please.

@Talkingheadera

Err careful what words you choose to use...

The problem with these places is they have no sense of style. Crappy music and sticky floors. You may as well stay at home drinking tennents super while listening to Aswad.

Poor old Ricky's getting a bit old for the nighttime industry now. As he approaches sixty perhaps he should diversify? He wears some snappy shirts with overly starched collars, so I think an ironing business might suit? His large head makes him look a bit like a butcher so he could get into the meat Industry?

No, I imagine he'll be back with a "new" concept in evening entertainment. This will include a novelty building (perhaps the aquarium) and some cheap drinks. Ricky will then take up his position as head shark (gurning at us little fish) and float around his new place trying to pick up gullible girls who has got their noses past the age of consent.

On an unrelated note, what was the name of that garishly dressed northerner who started off in the nightclub trade many moons ago?

Knowit... wrote:

Bob49 wrote:
So much for the previous triumphal' posts on here talking about re-opening parties.

Posts eagerly trying to promote ticket sales - whilst claiming not to be one of the owner's 'lackeys'.

We all know who was the real owner and the person running this club.

A very welcome clean up, but one that has come far far too late - as one poor chap will know.

.

Busy Body. Get back in your taxi.

Knowit, He is ENTITLED to his opinion on this site, the same as you do but at least he has something constructive to say, unlike your post.

Talkingheadera wrote:

TheGreenHornet wrote:

carr58 wrote: I have had enough of this clap trap for one I do not and have never owned V I have been a consultant from the start creating yet another succesful venue for Bournemouth Yesterday was a sham a discrace that in England the Police have manipulated the council to revoke the License the new owners would have done a good job and where they go from here will be very expensive and the Police know this. You may love me or hate me but I am sure that most of you have never met me but in this lovely green eyed town what should I expect. The main thing is this 50+ people have lost there jobs and yes you are correct these actions have created a big problem for the previous club owners as there are creditors to be paid. But the Councillors and the Police do not care about this. The clubs closure is a travesty for Bournemouth and for the 3000 people a week who used to go to V but guess what the authorities will still all get there pay cheques at the end of the month and they do not give a dam.And for the record I do not have a stash of money and I am out of work but guess what I will be back because I will get back up dust myself down and find away forward but guess what Bournemouth and me are done.And lastly I hear they are going to rename it Bournemouth-on-Sea a far cry from the clubbing Capital of the south.I will just jog your memory's this is what I created for the area; Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint, Wiggle and then V so all of the people who make derogatory comments about me perhaps you should consider how many people have worked for me and how much wealth that has created especially for Bob49 the Taxi driver and all of your mates! And after 25 years in the Industry including being the Chairman of a PLC Listed Company, do you not find it odd that all of a sudden I am not a fit and proper person to be involved in a Licensed premises.

Mr Carr is currently being investigated for breaking a BRU (Bankruptcy Restriction Undertaking) and money laundering by the police, for his involvement with V and other exploits. How stupid must you be to honestly think a nightclub requires a consultant, highly overpaid, and swans about likes they own they place without getting caught? Not to mention someone who lost £millions. That would surely make them un-approachable for any business to even consider using their services? Mr Carr and Mr Beedham had a deal under the table and they are being investigated for it. To go bankrupt and loose £11m is not going to be viewed lightly for many years too. Publicly and in business.

Exactly right. And if he's that broke like he should be how's he still living around Lilliput.? Cash under the mattress? Shouldn't he be knocking on dave wells' door begging for a bedsit? Maybe housing benefit can tell us if they're paying his rent as to go bankrupt in that way shoukd mean you're penniless. He's been seen driving quite an expensive merc. Consultant my arse. Jim worked for him for years so would need a consultant. What he would need though is money to buy the business which of course came in sack loads of cash from mr carr, or was it mr Carrs sister who'd been concealing it?

Yeah right, you havent got a clue what you are talking about stop making stupid assumptions you have the brain of a rocking horse and you shouldn't kick a man when he is down as you never know when he may get back up.

That's what I call a post.

scrumpyjack wrote:
That's what I call a post.

@JLC U Later

nbraeman wrote:
Like him or not, at least Mr Carr gets off his behind and creates employment in the town. Whether he makes money for himself in the process of doing it is rather irrelevant to the fact that jobs are created (and I suspect most of then are NOT at minimum wage), buildings that might otherwise be disused are occupied and large amount of business rates are being paid. I just don't see what the downside for most people is. They moan about the night time economy and yet the vast majority of the moaners do not go into town at night and would not do so even if this "night-time economy" did not exist. Like it or not, the clubs and bars bring large amounts of people into the town, creating many jobs in peripheral industries such as taxis and hotels.

It especially makes me fume when I hear taxi drivers complaining. Do they really imagine that the lovely, sober young families that they think willl flood into town once all the bars and clubs have gone will pay their council dictated rip-off prices when their sobriety means they can park the car for a couple of quid?

A lot of the people that complain about the night time economy are, in my book, the same as people that complain about homo-sexuality. It doesn't actually affect them but they know it goes on and they don't like it.

I thought I was being provocative, but to compare people who are concerned with the debauched nightclub scene in bournemouth with homophobes is just awesome. Well done.

Don't protest too much though, people will get suspicious.

nbraeman wrote:
Like him or not, at least Mr Carr gets off his behind and creates employment in the town. Whether he makes money for himself in the process of doing it is rather irrelevant to the fact that jobs are created (and I suspect most of then are NOT at minimum wage), buildings that might otherwise be disused are occupied and large amount of business rates are being paid. I just don't see what the downside for most people is. They moan about the night time economy and yet the vast majority of the moaners do not go into town at night and would not do so even if this "night-time economy" did not exist. Like it or not, the clubs and bars bring large amounts of people into the town, creating many jobs in peripheral industries such as taxis and hotels.

It especially makes me fume when I hear taxi drivers complaining. Do they really imagine that the lovely, sober young families that they think willl flood into town once all the bars and clubs have gone will pay their council dictated rip-off prices when their sobriety means they can park the car for a couple of quid?

A lot of the people that complain about the night time economy are, in my book, the same as people that complain about homo-sexuality. It doesn't actually affect them but they know it goes on and they don't like it.

Very succinctly put, totally agree.

Knowit... wrote:

John T wrote:

Knowit... wrote:

Bob49 wrote:
So much for the previous triumphal' posts on here talking about re-opening parties.

Posts eagerly trying to promote ticket sales - whilst claiming not to be one of the owner's 'lackeys'.

We all know who was the real owner and the person running this club.

A very welcome clean up, but one that has come far far too late - as one poor chap will know.

.

Busy Body. Get back in your taxi.

Come in, Carr58, your time is up!

If you have been following the V stories, He doesn't have anything to do with it anymore.Get your facts right

The facts are HE DID and should NOT HAVE, they are the facts!

Does the Name Carr always associate in Bournemouth/Poole with
people being owed money,
people loosing jobs,
Businesses closing down ?

susieb wrote:

Talkingheadera wrote:

TheGreenHornet wrote:

carr58 wrote: I have had enough of this clap trap for one I do not and have never owned V I have been a consultant from the start creating yet another succesful venue for Bournemouth Yesterday was a sham a discrace that in England the Police have manipulated the council to revoke the License the new owners would have done a good job and where they go from here will be very expensive and the Police know this. You may love me or hate me but I am sure that most of you have never met me but in this lovely green eyed town what should I expect. The main thing is this 50+ people have lost there jobs and yes you are correct these actions have created a big problem for the previous club owners as there are creditors to be paid. But the Councillors and the Police do not care about this. The clubs closure is a travesty for Bournemouth and for the 3000 people a week who used to go to V but guess what the authorities will still all get there pay cheques at the end of the month and they do not give a dam.And for the record I do not have a stash of money and I am out of work but guess what I will be back because I will get back up dust myself down and find away forward but guess what Bournemouth and me are done.And lastly I hear they are going to rename it Bournemouth-on-Sea a far cry from the clubbing Capital of the south.I will just jog your memory's this is what I created for the area; Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint, Wiggle and then V so all of the people who make derogatory comments about me perhaps you should consider how many people have worked for me and how much wealth that has created especially for Bob49 the Taxi driver and all of your mates! And after 25 years in the Industry including being the Chairman of a PLC Listed Company, do you not find it odd that all of a sudden I am not a fit and proper person to be involved in a Licensed premises.

Mr Carr is currently being investigated for breaking a BRU (Bankruptcy Restriction Undertaking) and money laundering by the police, for his involvement with V and other exploits. How stupid must you be to honestly think a nightclub requires a consultant, highly overpaid, and swans about likes they own they place without getting caught? Not to mention someone who lost £millions. That would surely make them un-approachable for any business to even consider using their services? Mr Carr and Mr Beedham had a deal under the table and they are being investigated for it. To go bankrupt and loose £11m is not going to be viewed lightly for many years too. Publicly and in business.

Exactly right. And if he's that broke like he should be how's he still living around Lilliput.? Cash under the mattress? Shouldn't he be knocking on dave wells' door begging for a bedsit? Maybe housing benefit can tell us if they're paying his rent as to go bankrupt in that way shoukd mean you're penniless. He's been seen driving quite an expensive merc. Consultant my arse. Jim worked for him for years so would need a consultant. What he would need though is money to buy the business which of course came in sack loads of cash from mr carr, or was it mr Carrs sister who'd been concealing it?

Yeah right, you havent got a clue what you are talking about stop making stupid assumptions you have the brain of a rocking horse and you shouldn't kick a man when he is down as you never know when he may get back up.

Well Said Susieb.

All of these daily echo trolls. They must be very sad and have nothing better to do.

Wonder if they make stupid comments thinking they know facts about every story on the Daily Mail website. All in All very sad sad people - They don't Have a Clue!

CharL89 wrote:
There seems to be a lot of bitter & twisted people out there that just love to see any successful business fall. Closing this club now loses people their jobs & the once popular town will slowly deminish of any life if the council & police get there way, all late night places shut with just a seaside of blue rinses.

The V Club lost its employees jobs, not the council. If the management of the club ran the club accordingly, then these same people would still be working.

The council just decided, along with the Police and the Licencee Board to take the opportunity, after recent events to keep the club closed.

Knock it down, and make it a more viable area along with the old Winter Garden site for some thing better. Like an indoor sports and pool area, seeing that Beesley did not go with the peoples vote for the Pier Approach.

I can't believe some of the nasty spiteful comments about Mr Carr. So he's living in a decent home, drives a nice car etc. his parents may be helping him, so what?

To be honest, I'd rather have a conversation with an entrepreneur who has been successful and led an interesting life than someone who has never ventured away from their dead-end 9-5 job.

Credit where it's due. This man has created some brilliant (and very successful) nightclubs, no one can deny that.

Did you hear the one about....

his parents may be helping him, so what?

BournemouthMum wrote:
I can't believe some of the nasty spiteful comments about Mr Carr. So he's living in a decent home, drives a nice car etc. his parents may be helping him, so what?

To be honest, I'd rather have a conversation with an entrepreneur who has been successful and led an interesting life than someone who has never ventured away from their dead-end 9-5 job.

Credit where it's due. This man has created some brilliant (and very successful) nightclubs, no one can deny that.

Why not drop Richard Branson a line? I imagine he'd be very interested to chat to the mysteriously named "bournemouthmum".

Have you noticed the same old trolls always appear..............
... Grow a pair.


That poor innocent girl that got stabbed on the way to school yesterday, Just shows it can happen anywhere. Its just unlucky it happened in V club and your all so sad to be making horrible and false remarks. You have to remember people you are commenting about have family and i'm sure they read this.

carr58 wrote:
I have had enough of this clap trap for one I do not and have never owned V I have been a consultant from the start creating yet another succesful venue for Bournemouth Yesterday was a sham a discrace that in England the Police have manipulated the council to revoke the License the new owners would have done a good job and where they go from here will be very expensive and the Police know this.
You may love me or hate me but I am sure that most of you have never met me but in this lovely green eyed town what should I expect. The main thing is this 50+ people have lost there jobs and yes you are correct these actions have created a big problem for the previous club owners as there are creditors to be paid. But the Councillors and the Police do not care about this. The clubs closure is a travesty for Bournemouth and for the 3000 people a week who used to go to V but guess what the authorities will still all get there pay cheques at the end of the month and they do not give a dam.And for the record I do not have a stash of money and I am out of work but guess what I will be back because I will get back up dust myself down and find away forward but guess what Bournemouth and me are done.And lastly I hear they are going to rename it Bournemouth-on-Sea a far cry from the clubbing Capital of the south.I will just jog your memory's this is what I created for the area; Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur

ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste

r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint,

Wiggle and then V so all of the people who make derogatory comments about me perhaps you should consider how many people have worked for me and how much wealth that has created especially for Bob49 the Taxi driver and all of your mates! And after 25 years in the Industry including being the Chairman of a PLC Listed Company, do you not find it odd that all of a sudden I am not a fit and proper person to be involved in a Licensed premises.

Guess what ''Bournemouth and me are done'', said many times before but please MEAN it this time, all your successes, we would need more space than allowed on here to debate that, what about all the money owed to so many people and as for being broke, how is your house in Lilliput but of course ''not owned by you'.
Is it not fact that when V opened, you interviewed people to work there just before Easter that year namely manager of Crank when you were not involved with V, it has all ways been that each and every club has a popular lifespan and then punters move on to somewhere else, hopefully as you have stated not with YOURSELF involved and in my humble opinion you are NOT a fit and PROPER person.

A horrific stabbing in another town isn't relevant, why refer to it?

This is though:

http://www.thisisdor
set.net/news/4300420
.CARR_S_BAR_BUST_UP/


http://www.bournemou
thecho.co.uk/news/46
72948.Richard_Carr_s
___500k_cash_shock/

http://www.bournemou
thecho.co.uk/news/di
stricts/bournemouth/
9960183.Vee_Club_Tra
ding_faces_liquidati
on_over_debts/

Like it or not Richard Carr has been hugely pivotal in the success of the towns night time economy. Creating a well respected clubbing destination, creating jobs and renovating empty buildings, which otherwise would have been left to ruin.

Now what have we got? A few rubbishy bars full of students and Stag parties trying to get as drunk as possible as cheaply as possible, making vast areas of the town a no go area on a Friday or Saturday night.

Considering one of the companies I was working for in 2008 lost £1000s from not being paid by Mr Carr, I think it's fair to say more people were owned money than were paid through any employment he created. That would never be highlighted most of the time. A club manager may be getting their £2000 monthly salary on time, along with bar staff etc, but a self-employed builder or supplier is chasing for his money for months. No-one ever considers this.

A creditor owned £10,000 and not getting it has an underlying effect of persons working in that company not being paid on time either. All goes in roundabouts. And I have been subject to this too.

You may pay your staff and they may be employed, because they still make your business money, but when you don't pay your creditors, they loose out.

If you loose that much money, you have only been successful for yourself as you demonstrate you can't run an honest business. You spend short-term profits on power boating and your lavish house, whilst creditors are panicking because they need their money for services provided and in the end don't get paid.

We got a creditors document from Deloitte in 2008 and he had mobile phone bills in excess of £4000 I remember. And something like £30,000 for seating in Wiggle. All outstanding.

It all comes back at you in the end, as it did with Mr Carr. And if we were all dishonest people, we would all start businesses like that, and all be entrepreneurs.

BournemouthMum wrote:
I can't believe some of the nasty spiteful comments about Mr Carr. So he's living in a decent home, drives a nice car etc. his parents may be helping him, so what?

To be honest, I'd rather have a conversation with an entrepreneur who has been successful and led an interesting life than someone who has never ventured away from their dead-end 9-5 job.

Credit where it's due. This man has created some brilliant (and very successful) nightclubs, no one can deny that.

What about PEOPLE OWED money, do they say the clubs were successful and all the nasty, spiteful comments that appear on this site cannot ALL be wrong but credit to yourself BournemouthMum, I hope you get another job soon.

Why do you trolls all live in the past, bleating on about bankruptcy, lavish house you really need to get out more and get a life

All of you that are so quick to judge Mr Carr & hide behind your computer screen would s**t a brick if he ever had the time to ask for your small minded opinions! Why is it any business of yours what he gets up to? This quotes for you carr58 -

“People will always talk about you, especially when they envy you and the life you live. Let them... you affected their lives, they didn't affect yours.”

Hitchcock9 wrote:
All of you that are so quick to judge Mr Carr & hide behind your computer screen would s**t a brick if he ever had the time to ask for your small minded opinions! Why is it any business of yours what he gets up to? This quotes for you carr58 -

“People will always talk about you, especially when they envy you and the life you live. Let them... you affected their lives, they didn't affect yours.”

That is inspirational stuff. Especially if your goal is to affect other people's lives. Nice aspiration.

TheGreenHornet wrote:
Considering one of the companies I was working for in 2008 lost £1000s from not being paid by Mr Carr, I think it's fair to say more people were owned money than were paid through any employment he created. That would never be highlighted most of the time. A club manager may be getting their £2000 monthly salary on time, along with bar staff etc, but a self-employed builder or supplier is chasing for his money for months. No-one ever considers this.

A creditor owned £10,000 and not getting it has an underlying effect of persons working in that company not being paid on time either. All goes in roundabouts. And I have been subject to this too.

You may pay your staff and they may be employed, because they still make your business money, but when you don't pay your creditors, they loose out.

If you loose that much money, you have only been successful for yourself as you demonstrate you can't run an honest business. You spend short-term profits on power boating and your lavish house, whilst creditors are panicking because they need their money for services provided and in the end don't get paid.

We got a creditors document from Deloitte in 2008 and he had mobile phone bills in excess of £4000 I remember. And something like £30,000 for seating in Wiggle. All outstanding.

It all comes back at you in the end, as it did with Mr Carr. And if we were all dishonest people, we would all start businesses like that, and all be entrepreneurs.

Are you saying that people who start businesses and through circumstances beyond their control cannot pay creditors are dishonest? If that's the case, you don't have a very good understanding of business principles do you?

It is economic conditions which dictate the success (or failure) of any business, if someone at the top of the pyramid is struggling to pay the bills, it has a snowball effect all the way down to the bottom and unfortunately sometimes people don't get paid.

That's the price of being self employed/owning a business as opposed to having a secure 9-5 job. This happened to me a few years ago when I ran a local magazine (funded by advertising). People were paying late/not paying and this meant I was in a position where I couldn't pay my printer and owed a substantial amount of money. Does that make me dishonest? I think not.

Richard Carr got rich getting the plebs drunk on weak lager in stinking clubs.

It's a really crap version of The American Dream. But with more vomit and kebabs.

BournemouthMum wrote:

TheGreenHornet wrote:
Considering one of the companies I was working for in 2008 lost £1000s from not being paid by Mr Carr, I think it's fair to say more people were owned money than were paid through any employment he created. That would never be highlighted most of the time. A club manager may be getting their £2000 monthly salary on time, along with bar staff etc, but a self-employed builder or supplier is chasing for his money for months. No-one ever considers this.

A creditor owned £10,000 and not getting it has an underlying effect of persons working in that company not being paid on time either. All goes in roundabouts. And I have been subject to this too.

You may pay your staff and they may be employed, because they still make your business money, but when you don't pay your creditors, they loose out.

If you loose that much money, you have only been successful for yourself as you demonstrate you can't run an honest business. You spend short-term profits on power boating and your lavish house, whilst creditors are panicking because they need their money for services provided and in the end don't get paid.

We got a creditors document from Deloitte in 2008 and he had mobile phone bills in excess of £4000 I remember. And something like £30,000 for seating in Wiggle. All outstanding.

It all comes back at you in the end, as it did with Mr Carr. And if we were all dishonest people, we would all start businesses like that, and all be entrepreneurs.

Are you saying that people who start businesses and through circumstances beyond their control cannot pay creditors are dishonest? If that's the case, you don't have a very good understanding of business principles do you?

It is economic conditions which dictate the success (or failure) of any business, if someone at the top of the pyramid is struggling to pay the bills, it has a snowball effect all the way down to the bottom and unfortunately sometimes people don't get paid.

That's the price of being self employed/owning a business as opposed to having a secure 9-5 job. This happened to me a few years ago when I ran a local magazine (funded by advertising). People were paying late/not paying and this meant I was in a position where I couldn't pay my printer and owed a substantial amount of money. Does that make me dishonest? I think not.

It's dishonest when you own creditors hundreds of thousands and you still are off spending money on your power boating team, have a nice house and car. As highlighted by an article in the Echo back in 2008.

If someone was chasing my business for £10,000 and I actually had it. I would pay them, not spend it on a powerboat team racing half way across the world.

Of course there are businesses that come into real trouble and can't pay creditors, but you don't expect the director to continue to live such a lavish lifestyle whilst a creditor is chasing money? And loosing £11million means you must have been doing that for a while? Which was again highlighted in 2008.

Venue is better been empty rather than been a dump that V was.

Routers wrote:
Does the Name Carr always associate in Bournemouth/Poole with
people being owed money,
people loosing jobs,
Businesses closing down ?

Carr's parents were very well respected in business in Bournemouth and the UK.

I hear cocaine is cheap in Miami?

To all those mourning the loss of yet another Carr venture, I'd ask this:

Has the local economy ever collapsed as a result of Mr Carr either leaving the area or going bust previously?

Anyone? No, I thought not.

MrPitiful wrote:
It's most unfortunate that the "powers that be" on the licensing committee etc who made today's decision can't see a way to solving the underlying problem, as opposed to making ill-informed and knee-jerk decisions after the event. Closing "V" club - or any other bar in Bournemouth for that matter, will not stop anybody getting stabbed, attacked, beaten up in this town at all. Far from it and in fact, possibly the opposite. The underlying problem needs to be addressed and resolved. Violent crime of this nature can and does occur anywhere. The moron who stabbed the guy is just as likely to go into his local Conservative Club or British Legion, neck 10 pints and stab somebody on the street outside as much as he is likely to go and do it in any nightclub in town. If he is that mentally unstable, he will do it. It's also a shame this same committe couldn't afford the new and seemingly more professional and responsible owner of "V" Club the opportunity to turn things around. In the last day or so in these very columns he has pointed out the current "in-house" existing faults of "V" as a club and he has indicated his plans to change for the better. Why this apparently wasn't taken into account is beyond comprehension. I think much has been made of the fact that this club had previously been connected, owned or ran from behind the scenes or whatever by the infamous Richard Carr. I won't go into that though as it's pointless as well as irrelevant and I don't want to be dragged down by the local "BBBBSB" (Bring Back the Bournemouth Bus Station Brigade) and accused of being one of his "Lackeys". I will debate the virtues and ins/outs of the Bournemouth night-time economy with anyone at anytime, as long as they are knowledgeable enough to do so. However, when they are unable to debate effectively, insult those who do not agree with them and then disappear from the debate when they are either proved wrong or simply come across an opponent with more intellect, it becomes a waste of time trying. This weekend will not be any safer or dangerous either way out in Bournemouth town due to the closure of "V" - just like any other town centre up and down the country. The only way to make it safer is to have a more efficient Police Force, a more efficient and effective justice system and an overall more considered view of the licensing laws. Instead we have a patchwork operation between all 3 and whilst this remains, nutjobs will still be on the loose with the intent of harm like that which happened to the poor guy a few weeks back.

It's not pointless. Maybe you don't remember Thursday nights at the Academy and Opera House. There was hardly anyone in there over 18. He alone is solely resposible for getting 2000 kids drunk every week for years.
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You say it's the justice system and Police's responsibility to make it safer but you're wrong. Irresponsible club owners/operators should be put out of business promptly to prevent these issues.
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I wonder how many teenage alcoholics he's killed?

It seems that the Echo only have to print that 4 letter word (Carr) to raise the hackles of Echo readers. He’s a bit of a local legend, part truth, part rumour, part folklore. The mere mention of his name and the conspiracy theories and tales of dodgy goings begin to emerge.
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Not perfect by any means but compared to the low life who inhabit the council chamber, who are slowly but surely killing Bournemouth, putting their own selfish interests before what is best for the town, Carr really isn’t that bad.

susieb wrote:
Why do you trolls all live in the past, bleating on about bankruptcy, lavish house you really need to get out more and get a life

couldn't have put it better myself, so many small minded haters in this town.

While the Chinese and Indians are creating wealth through the production of various goods that will end up in your homes.

Bournemouth's main concern is the closing of a depraved night club.

Little Britain is really scraping the barrel again, ban Alcohol and get grafting.

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

MrPitiful wrote:
It's most unfortunate that the "powers that be" on the licensing committee etc who made today's decision can't see a way to solving the underlying problem, as opposed to making ill-informed and knee-jerk decisions after the event. Closing "V" club - or any other bar in Bournemouth for that matter, will not stop anybody getting stabbed, attacked, beaten up in this town at all. Far from it and in fact, possibly the opposite. The underlying problem needs to be addressed and resolved. Violent crime of this nature can and does occur anywhere. The moron who stabbed the guy is just as likely to go into his local Conservative Club or British Legion, neck 10 pints and stab somebody on the street outside as much as he is likely to go and do it in any nightclub in town. If he is that mentally unstable, he will do it. It's also a shame this same committe couldn't afford the new and seemingly more professional and responsible owner of "V" Club the opportunity to turn things around. In the last day or so in these very columns he has pointed out the current "in-house" existing faults of "V" as a club and he has indicated his plans to change for the better. Why this apparently wasn't taken into account is beyond comprehension. I think much has been made of the fact that this club had previously been connected, owned or ran from behind the scenes or whatever by the infamous Richard Carr. I won't go into that though as it's pointless as well as irrelevant and I don't want to be dragged down by the local "BBBBSB" (Bring Back the Bournemouth Bus Station Brigade) and accused of being one of his "Lackeys". I will debate the virtues and ins/outs of the Bournemouth night-time economy with anyone at anytime, as long as they are knowledgeable enough to do so. However, when they are unable to debate effectively, insult those who do not agree with them and then disappear from the debate when they are either proved wrong or simply come across an opponent with more intellect, it becomes a waste of time trying. This weekend will not be any safer or dangerous either way out in Bournemouth town due to the closure of "V" - just like any other town centre up and down the country. The only way to make it safer is to have a more efficient Police Force, a more efficient and effective justice system and an overall more considered view of the licensing laws. Instead we have a patchwork operation between all 3 and whilst this remains, nutjobs will still be on the loose with the intent of harm like that which happened to the poor guy a few weeks back.

It's not pointless. Maybe you don't remember Thursday nights at the Academy and Opera House. There was hardly anyone in there over 18. He alone is solely resposible for getting 2000 kids drunk every week for years.
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You say it's the justice system and Police's responsibility to make it safer but you're wrong. Irresponsible club owners/operators should be put out of business promptly to prevent these issues.
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I wonder how many teenage alcoholics he's killed?

Are you saying that you didn't drink alcohol until you were 18? Many years ago my friends and I would go clubbing when we were around 15/16/17, our parents didn't know of course because we would say we were staying at each other's houses etc. That was back in the early 80s when no one checked for ID - in fact I can't remember being asked once how old I was although I never looked older than my age.

It never did us any harm and certainly didn't make us alcoholics, in fact I don't even drink alcohol now. These days where ID is required to get into a pub/club there are more binge/problem drinkers than ever. Strange that isn't it.

Oh dear, we do have seem to have hit a raw nerve.

I have morphed into a taxi driver, not sure how that happened - maybe that's the only 'insult' one of his lackeys could come up with. Well I am not, never have been nir likely to, or likely to need to either.

What Idid do is manage a night club in the 80's and have parents who owned a small hotel in Boscombe. Not too far from Mr Carrs Hamby house, and a few mike from his parents hotel the Devon Towers.

He was an objectional type then and a seeing him last year suggested that nothing had changed. Perhaps that was why 'Dinsdale'.was avoided like the plague and many would dive out of the back door of the Cricketers when he came in the front door.

But that was then and this is now.

How many times have you companies gone bankrupt Richard ? How much have they owed to honest folk ? Are these bankruptcies due to your continuous incompetence or a deliberate policy to defraud by winding them up when you have racked up as much credit as possible ? That Bournemouth Mum is the reality. Try listening to those who were cheated rather than posting absurd tosh on here.

It was an open secret that you were running V and that it was you that had funded the setting up of the club. Maybe, just maybe, if you were as bright as you would like to think you are, you might have considered that you were being 'given enough rope'.

But amongst the gibberish posted up by his lackeys this one must take the prize " you affected their lives, they didn't affect yours"

Oh dear. I think losing the club's lincense might just have affected his life - an action caused by these other folk it would seem. I wonder what lies ahead.



Time will tell, though I suspect the clock began ticking somewhile back.

As to this idiotic

Everyone has an opinion.... whether good or bad.

I wonder...... has anyone bothered to find out the opinion of the guy who got slashed? No?

Maybe, people should drop this written witch hunt and move on? Im sure everyones got better things to do with there day than flog this dead horse?

I wonder if the young man who was injured will be compensated for his injury? If I was the insurance company for V I wouldn't be too happy that my client had not carried out the appropriate measures/heath & Safety precautions and would probably lay the blame and liability with people in charge of the venue. And as the only people in charge are Lackeys with no money it will probably be up to the criminal injuries board to make a huge payout to the victim.

Dahlia77 wrote:
I wonder if the young man who was injured will be compensated for his injury? If I was the insurance company for V I wouldn't be too happy that my client had not carried out the appropriate measures/heath & Safety precautions and would probably lay the blame and liability with people in charge of the venue. And as the only people in charge are Lackeys with no money it will probably be up to the criminal injuries board to make a huge payout to the victim.

Fair question..... im sure the guy would be interested in finding out the best way to go about pushing for this......

If Bournemouth is to continue as a major night time destination it needs to be seen as a safe place to go. That is why many taxi drivers will support the council's decision. I find it interesting that we all misunderstand Richard Carr who is just an unlucky businessman who wants provide employment and entertainment. The fact is he has a string of failures and dubiously run establishments behind him, he has had far more onerous conditions placed on his bankruptcy than normal due to his "unfit conduct". Many people have lost money through supplying his enterprises. That is all documented fact.
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If we want Bournemouth to be a premier resort with a healthy night time economy we need a level playing field, while some get away with bad practices in running their businesses as described in this case there is no incentive for others to do things properly, I really don't think Richard Carr is any loss to Bournemouth I am sure there are many other entrepreneurs who will take his place and if the council stick with tough enforcement they will be able to provide the right sort of venues for the future.

I am sure that was his first thought!
I just know that normally if stringent procedures are not followed that the victim normally has to sue the people and not the Company (in this case V)
Another tip for the people left out of work when V was refused yesterday, if I were you I would not put your last job on your CV!

BournemouthMum wrote:

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

MrPitiful wrote: It's most unfortunate that the "powers that be" on the licensing committee etc who made today's decision can't see a way to solving the underlying problem, as opposed to making ill-informed and knee-jerk decisions after the event. Closing "V" club - or any other bar in Bournemouth for that matter, will not stop anybody getting stabbed, attacked, beaten up in this town at all. Far from it and in fact, possibly the opposite. The underlying problem needs to be addressed and resolved. Violent crime of this nature can and does occur anywhere. The moron who stabbed the guy is just as likely to go into his local Conservative Club or British Legion, neck 10 pints and stab somebody on the street outside as much as he is likely to go and do it in any nightclub in town. If he is that mentally unstable, he will do it. It's also a shame this same committe couldn't afford the new and seemingly more professional and responsible owner of "V" Club the opportunity to turn things around. In the last day or so in these very columns he has pointed out the current "in-house" existing faults of "V" as a club and he has indicated his plans to change for the better. Why this apparently wasn't taken into account is beyond comprehension. I think much has been made of the fact that this club had previously been connected, owned or ran from behind the scenes or whatever by the infamous Richard Carr. I won't go into that though as it's pointless as well as irrelevant and I don't want to be dragged down by the local "BBBBSB" (Bring Back the Bournemouth Bus Station Brigade) and accused of being one of his "Lackeys". I will debate the virtues and ins/outs of the Bournemouth night-time economy with anyone at anytime, as long as they are knowledgeable enough to do so. However, when they are unable to debate effectively, insult those who do not agree with them and then disappear from the debate when they are either proved wrong or simply come across an opponent with more intellect, it becomes a waste of time trying. This weekend will not be any safer or dangerous either way out in Bournemouth town due to the closure of "V" - just like any other town centre up and down the country. The only way to make it safer is to have a more efficient Police Force, a more efficient and effective justice system and an overall more considered view of the licensing laws. Instead we have a patchwork operation between all 3 and whilst this remains, nutjobs will still be on the loose with the intent of harm like that which happened to the poor guy a few weeks back.

It's not pointless. Maybe you don't remember Thursday nights at the Academy and Opera House. There was hardly anyone in there over 18. He alone is solely resposible for getting 2000 kids drunk every week for years. . You say it's the justice system and Police's responsibility to make it safer but you're wrong. Irresponsible club owners/operators should be put out of business promptly to prevent these issues. . I wonder how many teenage alcoholics he's killed?

Are you saying that you didn't drink alcohol until you were 18? Many years ago my friends and I would go clubbing when we were around 15/16/17, our parents didn't know of course because we would say we were staying at each other's houses etc. That was back in the early 80s when no one checked for ID - in fact I can't remember being asked once how old I was although I never looked older than my age. It never did us any harm and certainly didn't make us alcoholics, in fact I don't even drink alcohol now. These days where ID is required to get into a pub/club there are more binge/problem drinkers than ever. Strange that isn't it.

Of course I did but my point is he was operating a whole night on a weekly basis promoted at the underage. None of my mates would go there after we were 18 because it was full of paralytic kids. That's not the actions of a responsible club operator. As others have said his only concern is lining pockets.
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BTW I worked at the Cage when he was barred. A great fat sweating piggy full of Charlie. People have their opinions about him for a very good reason.

Talkingheadera wrote:

carr58 wrote: I have had enough of this clap trap for one I do not and have never owned V I have been a consultant from the start creating yet another succesful venue for Bournemouth Yesterday was a sham a discrace that in England the Police have manipulated the council to revoke the License the new owners would have done a good job and where they go from here will be very expensive and the Police know this. You may love me or hate me but I am sure that most of you have never met me but in this lovely green eyed town what should I expect. The main thing is this 50+ people have lost there jobs and yes you are correct these actions have created a big problem for the previous club owners as there are creditors to be paid. But the Councillors and the Police do not care about this. The clubs closure is a travesty for Bournemouth and for the 3000 people a week who used to go to V but guess what the authorities will still all get there pay cheques at the end of the month and they do not give a dam.And for the record I do not have a stash of money and I am out of work but guess what I will be back because I will get back up dust myself down and find away forward but guess what Bournemouth and me are done.And lastly I hear they are going to rename it Bournemouth-on-Sea a far cry from the clubbing Capital of the south.I will just jog your memory's this is what I created for the area; Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint, Wiggle and then V so all of the people who make derogatory comments about me perhaps you should consider how many people have worked for me and how much wealth that has created especially for Bob49 the Taxi driver and all of your mates! And after 25 years in the Industry including being the Chairman of a PLC Listed Company, do you not find it odd that all of a sudden I am not a fit and proper person to be involved in a Licensed premises.

Richard Nobody's disputing that you're not a shrewd operator and know you're business. But we all know that you don't give a **** about anything other than lining you're own pockets. We all know you laundered money,hid it instead of paying you're debts. Time and time again you did the same thing. You do everything to not pay or take as long as you can to pay you're debts. You treat you're staff horrendously. You've said before you're done with bournemouth, so jet off to Miami with youre ill gotten gains and be a little fish in a big pond.

Well... I hope you can back this up with some evidence... You might find yourself having your collar felt. Wouldn't that be fun.

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

MrPitiful wrote: It's most unfortunate that the "powers that be" on the licensing committee etc who made today's decision can't see a way to solving the underlying problem, as opposed to making ill-informed and knee-jerk decisions after the event. Closing "V" club - or any other bar in Bournemouth for that matter, will not stop anybody getting stabbed, attacked, beaten up in this town at all. Far from it and in fact, possibly the opposite. The underlying problem needs to be addressed and resolved. Violent crime of this nature can and does occur anywhere. The moron who stabbed the guy is just as likely to go into his local Conservative Club or British Legion, neck 10 pints and stab somebody on the street outside as much as he is likely to go and do it in any nightclub in town. If he is that mentally unstable, he will do it. It's also a shame this same committe couldn't afford the new and seemingly more professional and responsible owner of "V" Club the opportunity to turn things around. In the last day or so in these very columns he has pointed out the current "in-house" existing faults of "V" as a club and he has indicated his plans to change for the better. Why this apparently wasn't taken into account is beyond comprehension. I think much has been made of the fact that this club had previously been connected, owned or ran from behind the scenes or whatever by the infamous Richard Carr. I won't go into that though as it's pointless as well as irrelevant and I don't want to be dragged down by the local "BBBBSB" (Bring Back the Bournemouth Bus Station Brigade) and accused of being one of his "Lackeys". I will debate the virtues and ins/outs of the Bournemouth night-time economy with anyone at anytime, as long as they are knowledgeable enough to do so. However, when they are unable to debate effectively, insult those who do not agree with them and then disappear from the debate when they are either proved wrong or simply come across an opponent with more intellect, it becomes a waste of time trying. This weekend will not be any safer or dangerous either way out in Bournemouth town due to the closure of "V" - just like any other town centre up and down the country. The only way to make it safer is to have a more efficient Police Force, a more efficient and effective justice system and an overall more considered view of the licensing laws. Instead we have a patchwork operation between all 3 and whilst this remains, nutjobs will still be on the loose with the intent of harm like that which happened to the poor guy a few weeks back.

It's not pointless. Maybe you don't remember Thursday nights at the Academy and Opera House. There was hardly anyone in there over 18. He alone is solely resposible for getting 2000 kids drunk every week for years. . You say it's the justice system and Police's responsibility to make it safer but you're wrong. Irresponsible club owners/operators should be put out of business promptly to prevent these issues. . I wonder how many teenage alcoholics he's killed?

Are you saying that you didn't drink alcohol until you were 18? Many years ago my friends and I would go clubbing when we were around 15/16/17, our parents didn't know of course because we would say we were staying at each other's houses etc. That was back in the early 80s when no one checked for ID - in fact I can't remember being asked once how old I was although I never looked older than my age. It never did us any harm and certainly didn't make us alcoholics, in fact I don't even drink alcohol now. These days where ID is required to get into a pub/club there are more binge/problem drinkers than ever. Strange that isn't it.

Of course I did but my point is he was operating a whole night on a weekly basis promoted at the underage. None of my mates would go there after we were 18 because it was full of paralytic kids. That's not the actions of a responsible club operator. As others have said his only concern is lining pockets.
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BTW I worked at the Cage when he was barred. A great fat sweating piggy full of Charlie. People have their opinions about him for a very good reason.

The piggy full of Charlie is a good sum up of him! But he is always going to be around if there are lackeys to do his bidding and be a front for his so called business dealings.
The new owner should be allowed to re-open with very strict guidelines in place as we need some more reputable venues in this town (like Revs).

social wrote:
Everyone has an opinion.... whether good or bad.

I wonder...... has anyone bothered to find out the opinion of the guy who got slashed? No?

Maybe, people should drop this written witch hunt and move on? Im sure everyones got better things to do with there day than flog this dead horse?

I should imagine the irony of this has gone clean above this poor chaps head

ps the story is about the revoking of the club license, so if that is beyond you then why not go about your better things ?

Molecatcher wrote:

Talkingheadera wrote:

carr58 wrote: I have had enough of this clap trap for one I do not and have never owned V I have been a consultant from the start creating yet another succesful venue for Bournemouth Yesterday was a sham a discrace that in England the Police have manipulated the council to revoke the License the new owners would have done a good job and where they go from here will be very expensive and the Police know this. You may love me or hate me but I am sure that most of you have never met me but in this lovely green eyed town what should I expect. The main thing is this 50+ people have lost there jobs and yes you are correct these actions have created a big problem for the previous club owners as there are creditors to be paid. But the Councillors and the Police do not care about this. The clubs closure is a travesty for Bournemouth and for the 3000 people a week who used to go to V but guess what the authorities will still all get there pay cheques at the end of the month and they do not give a dam.And for the record I do not have a stash of money and I am out of work but guess what I will be back because I will get back up dust myself down and find away forward but guess what Bournemouth and me are done.And lastly I hear they are going to rename it Bournemouth-on-Sea a far cry from the clubbing Capital of the south.I will just jog your memory's this is what I created for the area; Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint, Wiggle and then V so all of the people who make derogatory comments about me perhaps you should consider how many people have worked for me and how much wealth that has created especially for Bob49 the Taxi driver and all of your mates! And after 25 years in the Industry including being the Chairman of a PLC Listed Company, do you not find it odd that all of a sudden I am not a fit and proper person to be involved in a Licensed premises.

Richard Nobody's disputing that you're not a shrewd operator and know you're business. But we all know that you don't give a **** about anything other than lining you're own pockets. We all know you laundered money,hid it instead of paying you're debts. Time and time again you did the same thing. You do everything to not pay or take as long as you can to pay you're debts. You treat you're staff horrendously. You've said before you're done with bournemouth, so jet off to Miami with youre ill gotten gains and be a little fish in a big pond.

Well... I hope you can back this up with some evidence... You might find yourself having your collar felt. Wouldn't that be fun.

Molecatcher are you implying that Richard Carr might sue, you wouldn't be implying he has access to the sort of funds needed for that sort of action would you? Legal aid isn't available for libel which is notoriously expensive and as an undisclosed bankrupt he should not have funds above those for normal living expenses.

Glashen I am a discharged bankrupt (Since 2009) so get your facts right and I do have access to that sort of funds.

About time this "club" was shut down. Now it's time to do the same to the rest of the sex clubs and turn this town back into a family town. (And the drunks go ruin some other town..) In fact, it's time the government pulled the plug on their little drinking experiment and put pub hours back to something respectable - like 11pm closing!

Bob49 wrote:

social wrote:
Everyone has an opinion.... whether good or bad.

I wonder...... has anyone bothered to find out the opinion of the guy who got slashed? No?

Maybe, people should drop this written witch hunt and move on? Im sure everyones got better things to do with there day than flog this dead horse?

I should imagine the irony of this has gone clean above this poor chaps head

ps the story is about the revoking of the club license, so if that is beyond you then why not go about your better things ?

no, I "imagine" the irony was intended.... my point is, perhaps the only people that should really have any opinion on the incident that created the situation is Mr. Selby and Mr. Carr (+his staff)

bringing in a public disection of someones history and finances doesnt help anyone.

V has provided BBC and Dorset Police with a means of sending a message to the other club owners; also Would you invest the money needed to build a 5-Star Hotel with somewhere like V just across the road?

As the old saying goes, give e'm enough rope...

I'm wondering why Health and Safety waited politely for four months to check out this place. Can't they just go in? Surely with that kind of thing it's better to go in unannounced than for them to be warned you're coming?
And to Bournemouth mum, I never drank alcohol before I was eighteen as I think logically and could never see the point of alcohol as a way to spend the evening. I still don't see why a good night out consists of going somewhere expensive, crowded, so noisy I can't talk to my friends, staggering home puking and waking up feeling like cr@p. If that's your idea of a good night out then I pity you.

spooki wrote:
I'm wondering why Health and Safety waited politely for four months to check out this place. Can't they just go in? Surely with that kind of thing it's better to go in unannounced than for them to be warned you're coming?
And to Bournemouth mum, I never drank alcohol before I was eighteen as I think logically and could never see the point of alcohol as a way to spend the evening. I still don't see why a good night out consists of going somewhere expensive, crowded, so noisy I can't talk to my friends, staggering home puking and waking up feeling like cr@p. If that's your idea of a good night out then I pity you.

I think h&s contrary to popular myth want to work with businesses to make their activities safe, it was when apparently unsafe practices were reported them they began to take action, we only know that the response to that action was unusual and not what the officer expected. We do not know what was in the police evidence, but I think it is fair to assume it contributed substantially to the council's decision.

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

BournemouthMum wrote:

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

MrPitiful wrote: It's most unfortunate that the "powers that be" on the licensing committee etc who made today's decision can't see a way to solving the underlying problem, as opposed to making ill-informed and knee-jerk decisions after the event. Closing "V" club - or any other bar in Bournemouth for that matter, will not stop anybody getting stabbed, attacked, beaten up in this town at all. Far from it and in fact, possibly the opposite. The underlying problem needs to be addressed and resolved. Violent crime of this nature can and does occur anywhere. The moron who stabbed the guy is just as likely to go into his local Conservative Club or British Legion, neck 10 pints and stab somebody on the street outside as much as he is likely to go and do it in any nightclub in town. If he is that mentally unstable, he will do it. It's also a shame this same committe couldn't afford the new and seemingly more professional and responsible owner of "V" Club the opportunity to turn things around. In the last day or so in these very columns he has pointed out the current "in-house" existing faults of "V" as a club and he has indicated his plans to change for the better. Why this apparently wasn't taken into account is beyond comprehension. I think much has been made of the fact that this club had previously been connected, owned or ran from behind the scenes or whatever by the infamous Richard Carr. I won't go into that though as it's pointless as well as irrelevant and I don't want to be dragged down by the local "BBBBSB" (Bring Back the Bournemouth Bus Station Brigade) and accused of being one of his "Lackeys". I will debate the virtues and ins/outs of the Bournemouth night-time economy with anyone at anytime, as long as they are knowledgeable enough to do so. However, when they are unable to debate effectively, insult those who do not agree with them and then disappear from the debate when they are either proved wrong or simply come across an opponent with more intellect, it becomes a waste of time trying. This weekend will not be any safer or dangerous either way out in Bournemouth town due to the closure of "V" - just like any other town centre up and down the country. The only way to make it safer is to have a more efficient Police Force, a more efficient and effective justice system and an overall more considered view of the licensing laws. Instead we have a patchwork operation between all 3 and whilst this remains, nutjobs will still be on the loose with the intent of harm like that which happened to the poor guy a few weeks back.

It's not pointless. Maybe you don't remember Thursday nights at the Academy and Opera House. There was hardly anyone in there over 18. He alone is solely resposible for getting 2000 kids drunk every week for years. . You say it's the justice system and Police's responsibility to make it safer but you're wrong. Irresponsible club owners/operators should be put out of business promptly to prevent these issues. . I wonder how many teenage alcoholics he's killed?

Are you saying that you didn't drink alcohol until you were 18? Many years ago my friends and I would go clubbing when we were around 15/16/17, our parents didn't know of course because we would say we were staying at each other's houses etc. That was back in the early 80s when no one checked for ID - in fact I can't remember being asked once how old I was although I never looked older than my age. It never did us any harm and certainly didn't make us alcoholics, in fact I don't even drink alcohol now. These days where ID is required to get into a pub/club there are more binge/problem drinkers than ever. Strange that isn't it.

Of course I did but my point is he was operating a whole night on a weekly basis promoted at the underage. None of my mates would go there after we were 18 because it was full of paralytic kids. That's not the actions of a responsible club operator. As others have said his only concern is lining pockets.
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BTW I worked at the Cage when he was barred. A great fat sweating piggy full of Charlie. People have their opinions about him for a very good reason.

Well I don't know him, I'm only basing opinions on what I've read and I'm generalising. You're in a better position than me to judge him I guess, since you've met him personally.

If one takes the time to look through the Echo archives looking at those named in this story and also St Andrew's United Reformed Church you realise just what a web of intrigue exists in Bournemouth. Sad thing is I am sure this is just the tip of the iceberg.

Why don't we hear from Richard about Miami.
Any business there?
Where jim disappeared to?
It will all come out in the wash I expect.

"Well... I hope you can back this up with some evidence... You might find yourself having your collar felt. Wouldn't that be fun.”"


er no

libel is a civil offence whereby you do not get 'your collar felt'

However it might prove fun for the rest of the town to see such an action in court. Lord knows who might come out of the woodwork/past to provide further evidence to the statements made above.

almost as much fun as reading the over exited squeaks of 'lackyey' who seem very upset that folk on here are making fun of him. We should get out, get a life etc they shriek - which rather begs the question of why have they sat and read through all the posts, even to the point of logging in and posting up something themselves. A life, eh ?

So a piece of advice to Mr Carr. When next interviewing for staff try to get some that can compose a reasoned piece in your defence - and don't employ a consultant who has a history of bankruptcies and when 'consulting' for a club not only bankrupts it but losses it's license, all in the space of a few months.

And lets just hope that club didn't pay him too much, or that he didn't end up as an unpaid creditor when it went bankrupt either.

As so,so many others have in so so many other bankruptcies .

Tollyg wrote:
Mr Carr reminds us he has been responsible for setting up the following: Zig Zag, Mariners Wharf,The Venue,Cage and Zoo,Opera House,Slinky,Slam,Ur ban,Bliss,Toko,Oyste r Quay,Jimmy's Bar,Bent,Crank,Mint, Wiggle and then V. And how many of these bars/clubs have ceased trading or gone bankrupt leaving a trail of creditors?

Not slinky, its still one of the biggest club brands in the uk,


and whoever said about Mr carr just wanting to line his pockets how silly as thats all anyone is trying to do in this day and age and if you say your not your lieing!

Knowit... wrote:

Bob49 wrote:
So much for the previous triumphal' posts on here talking about re-opening parties.

Posts eagerly trying to promote ticket sales - whilst claiming not to be one of the owner's 'lackeys'.

We all know who was the real owner and the person running this club.

A very welcome clean up, but one that has come far far too late - as one poor chap will know.

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Busy Body. Get back in your taxi.

Taxi? What has that got to do with it?

@carr58
The reason you and Bournemouth are "done" is that you have had a good run over the years and now the powers that be have Sussed you out.
You can't run a bath now.

carr58 wrote:
Glashen I am a discharged bankrupt (Since 2009) so get your facts right and I do have access to that sort of funds.

Mr Carr is a discharged bankrupt who opted to take a BRU, instead of facing any sort of further prosecution.

See this link: http://www.insolvenc
ydirect.bis.gov.uk/e
iir/IIRCaseIndivDeta
il.asp?CaseId=423522
65&IndivNo=1&Court=B
MTH&OfficeID=6000000
09&CaseType=BRU

A little birdie told me that there is more bad news to come Mr Carr's way :)

"and whoever said about Mr carr just wanting to line his pockets how silly as thats all anyone is trying to do in this day and age and if you say your not your lieing!”

Blimey, up pops another one


Richard certainly has some well educated friends/ employees or should I say fellow consultants.


It is not " all anyone is trying to do in this day and age " though it might be the outlook of those you associate with, which has coloure your perspective.

However in the world the rest of us exist in folk pay for what they owe and pay for the goods they have had. That way those people receiving those payments can also do the same. That's how it all works,

If the rest of us copied Mr Carrs methods the country would grind to a halt in less than a week.

If you are so enthralled with Mr Carrs methods why not go to work and tell your boss that he can keep your next few months wages - and then close the company.

Contact the utility companies and tell them that you are quite happy to pay extra to cover Mr Carr's repeated non payments - and then let the Daily Echo know around mid summer how you have stuck to your principles and beliefs and put your money where your mouth is.

Sadly with Mr Carr we get plenty of the latter, and far too little of the former.

ps I do hope all those who purchased tickets for the grand re-opening of the club will get a full refund. Surely he wouldn't skip off with that ... would he ?.

I can see why this chap is so disliked. He seems to be an arrogant so & so who thinks he's above everyone else. He was probably bankrolled by his parents (or someone) and would never have stood a chance at running any kind of business without outside help. Loser.

Carr just f--k off and do everyone a favour was that you sat on your own in cafe shore thursday night !!!

What an interesting day of comments - well to be honest it would have took me too long to read them all so I just had a quick glance through!

I have a question for Mr Richard Carr (carr58? ) - please answer if you get the time Richard - the people of Echo world would love to know the answer.

There is a certain old laddie who regularly pops up on here and comments on certain stories - namely ones involving yourself and others involving his 2 other coronary causes - the surf reef and the Imax.This old laddies name is Bob49 - I think you previously referred to him as a taxi driver. To be fair, I don't think he is a taxi driver because for a job like that, you need to have people skills. He is a solid member of the BBBSB ( Bring Back the Bournemouth Bus Station Brigade) so he is well known among the local bus-stop gossipers. But anyway...

He also has a pop now and against anything involving the council - strange because he let it slip once that his Mrs works for the council. Not sure if it was a little fib though because at the time he was - as usual - professing to be an expert above everyone else on something or other - again probably the surf reef or something.

Anyway, the question is, he apparently knows an awful lot about you - much more than the rest of us do. Maybe more than you do yourself.

With this in mind, can you please confirm whether or not this old laddie Bob49 is one of your "lackies"?

Lets look at the case for:

- He now also claims to be an "ex-licensee". Today, he even came out with some blurb about running a nightclub in the 1980's!! This could be a disguise to hide the fact that he is actually well versed in the nightclub scene, possibly looking up to you as a"mentor/father figure"

I don't think he has ever been a licensee or involved in a nightclub though. Bit of a silly fantasy.

- He claims to disagree with a lot of council policies ( even though he says his Mrs works for the council? ). This is quite similar to yourself - your run-ins with the town hall have been well-documented and let's be honest, you ain't ever gonna be mayor sometime soon.Does he have this anti-council facade to keep himself "in with the boss?"

- He posts on here at silly hours - last night at 230am and today well into the afternoon. This could be the hours of someone who works in the nighclub trade - another possibility of him working for you there then!

Finally - let's look at some of the things he has said about you - all quotes from previous columns in this very website!

"Bob49 says...
10:35pm Thu 14 Feb 13

"maximum use of Mr Carr's undoubted knowledge in this particular field - and also reward him for his proven efforts.
friendly Mr Carr" (Bob49)

Bob49 says...
11:54am Fri 15 Feb 13

"(I)...defend the club" (Bob49)

Bob49 says...
12:53pm Sat 16 Feb 13

"Mr Carr has brought us in the way of clubs - look at who paid for them.* (Bob49)

"having met him ….so many times
A jolly…latter day Robin Hood" (Bob49)"

Some shining references there. Some would say truly up your derrier! OK, to be fair, some of the quotes have been chopped up, taken out of context but that is how Bob49's poor debating skills work towards others.

Methinks he sometimes protests too much at people sticking up for you in order to hide his actual position of one of your lackies. He vene actually accuses other people - including myself - of knowing you and/or working for you. Sorry but I don't work for you, never have and now you are doing one, probably never will. I do like going to bars and clubs but in all honesty, I could never work in one. Too much like hard work for a lazy type like me. Besides, I run my own business which is doing ok thanks very much.

If he is one of your lackies, tell him to come clean as nobody here will hold it against him. If you do decide to leave town and go to Miami or wherever, do us a favour and pack him in one of your suitcases. Let him give us one final dance on here though as the entertainment is good now and then.Then he's all yours to do with whatever you please - I'm sure he will enjoy it.

lisa401 wrote:
I can see why this chap is so disliked. He seems to be an arrogant so & so who thinks he's above everyone else. He was probably bankrolled by his parents (or someone) and would never have stood a chance at running any kind of business without outside help. Loser.

Arrogant is unfortunately too kind a word.
How many times has he been done for drink driving?
He even got round that once by getting a foreign driving license.

BournemouthMum wrote:

nbraeman wrote:
Like him or not, at least Mr Carr gets off his behind and creates employment in the town. Whether he makes money for himself in the process of doing it is rather irrelevant to the fact that jobs are created (and I suspect most of then are NOT at minimum wage), buildings that might otherwise be disused are occupied and large amount of business rates are being paid. I just don't see what the downside for most people is. They moan about the night time economy and yet the vast majority of the moaners do not go into town at night and would not do so even if this "night-time economy" did not exist. Like it or not, the clubs and bars bring large amounts of people into the town, creating many jobs in peripheral industries such as taxis and hotels.

It especially makes me fume when I hear taxi drivers complaining. Do they really imagine that the lovely, sober young families that they think willl flood into town once all the bars and clubs have gone will pay their council dictated rip-off prices when their sobriety means they can park the car for a couple of quid?

A lot of the people that complain about the night time economy are, in my book, the same as people that complain about homo-sexuality. It doesn't actually affect them but they know it goes on and they don't like it.

Very succinctly put, totally agree.

Actually most are on minimum wage. How much do you think bar staff get paid?!!
I for one aren't moaning about nightclubs,I'm moaning about the operator and 'consultant' o this one.
You have no idea as you havnt had dealing with the bloke.
He has no regard for the law,no regard for his suppliers and no rears for his staff . He knows how to make money but at a lot of people's cost.

TheGreenHornet wrote:

carr58 wrote:
Glashen I am a discharged bankrupt (Since 2009) so get your facts right and I do have access to that sort of funds.

Mr Carr is a discharged bankrupt who opted to take a BRU, instead of facing any sort of further prosecution.

See this link: http://www.insolvenc

ydirect.bis.gov.uk/e

iir/IIRCaseIndivDeta

il.asp?CaseId=423522

65&IndivNo=1&amp
;Court=B
MTH&OfficeID=600
0000
09&CaseType=BRU

A little birdie told me that there is more bad news to come Mr Carr's way :)

From the insolvency service website,
-
"What is a Bankruptcy Restrictions Order (BRO) or Bankruptcy Restrictions Undertaking (BRU)?
-
If the official receiver considers that a bankrupt has acted dishonestly, or is blameworthy in some other way, they will report the facts to the courts and ask it to make a bankruptcy restrictions order (BRO).

A BRO is a court order imposing certain restrictions on a bankrupt for a set period between 2 and 15 years. A bankruptcy restrictions undertaking (BRU) has the same effect as a BRO but does not involve going to court. They have been introduced to ensure the small minority who are reckless or dishonest are subject to the restrictions for between 2 and 15 years.

A breach of a BRO or BRU is a criminal offence and may lead to a criminal penalty such as imprisonment or a fine."
-
Not something to be proud of is it?

Wesoblind wrote:
Ive said it 100 times on here and anyone with an ounce of brain matter will know where all the trouble is in Bournemouth, its the bars not the clubs! Granted this was not run very well befor but you cant blame the next owners. Just five years ago you could go out to Bournemouth at night and enjoy some good electronic music and have no fear of louts (if you kept away from walkabout)
Now all the decent music has gone and its all little bars like certain lad holiday destinations.

Look at Ibiza and compair it with say Kavos, if anyone has been to Ibiza there is no trouble but you see places with little bars instead of proper night clubs in other holiday resorts and that is where the trouble is!

Put Bournemouths nightlife back to what it was in the late 90s early 2000s this will keep all the louts out.

Anyone who thinks its the proper clubs that start the trouble is very much out of the loop!

Finally - someone who can make the distinction between different types of night-time punter and night-time venue. Some on here seem to think every venue is the same and every customer is a thug out to hurt someone.This hits the nail on the head for me. Thank you.

mark.s wrote:

Wesoblind wrote:
Ive said it 100 times on here and anyone with an ounce of brain matter will know where all the trouble is in Bournemouth, its the bars not the clubs! Granted this was not run very well befor but you cant blame the next owners. Just five years ago you could go out to Bournemouth at night and enjoy some good electronic music and have no fear of louts (if you kept away from walkabout)
Now all the decent music has gone and its all little bars like certain lad holiday destinations.

Look at Ibiza and compair it with say Kavos, if anyone has been to Ibiza there is no trouble but you see places with little bars instead of proper night clubs in other holiday resorts and that is where the trouble is!

Put Bournemouths nightlife back to what it was in the late 90s early 2000s this will keep all the louts out.

Anyone who thinks its the proper clubs that start the trouble is very much out of the loop!

Finally - someone who can make the distinction between different types of night-time punter and night-time venue. Some on here seem to think every venue is the same and every customer is a thug out to hurt someone.This hits the nail on the head for me. Thank you.

Absolutely - but most on here don't ever go into clubs or bars of any kind so the sad thing is they aren't even aware such a diversity exists.
It's unfortunate that the opinions of those who shout loudest are often the opinions that are acted on, no matter how misjudged and incorrect.

Spot on with the point on the different types of punter too!

just google
http://www.companies
intheuk.co.uk/find?q
=directors&location=
BH13+7HS&t=PeopleNea
rLocationSearch

Interesting eh !

Still using stitches?

Hot tub got craned out of the 'terrace' this afternoon and loaded onto a lorry.

A lot of carping going on here, maybe
a bit fishy?

mark.s wrote:

Wesoblind wrote:
Ive said it 100 times on here and anyone with an ounce of brain matter will know where all the trouble is in Bournemouth, its the bars not the clubs! Granted this was not run very well befor but you cant blame the next owners. Just five years ago you could go out to Bournemouth at night and enjoy some good electronic music and have no fear of louts (if you kept away from walkabout)
Now all the decent music has gone and its all little bars like certain lad holiday destinations.

Look at Ibiza and compair it with say Kavos, if anyone has been to Ibiza there is no trouble but you see places with little bars instead of proper night clubs in other holiday resorts and that is where the trouble is!

Put Bournemouths nightlife back to what it was in the late 90s early 2000s this will keep all the louts out.

Anyone who thinks its the proper clubs that start the trouble is very much out of the loop!

Finally - someone who can make the distinction between different types of night-time punter and night-time venue. Some on here seem to think every venue is the same and every customer is a thug out to hurt someone.This hits the nail on the head for me. Thank you.

But unfortunately people aren't asked to take an intelligence test or pass a sobriety test before they enter.
Mark.S claims that, 'Anyone who thinks its the proper clubs that start the trouble is very much out of the loop!' but clearly this isn't the case - someone got stabbed!

MrPitiful wrote:

mark.s wrote:

Wesoblind wrote:
Ive said it 100 times on here and anyone with an ounce of brain matter will know where all the trouble is in Bournemouth, its the bars not the clubs! Granted this was not run very well befor but you cant blame the next owners. Just five years ago you could go out to Bournemouth at night and enjoy some good electronic music and have no fear of louts (if you kept away from walkabout)
Now all the decent music has gone and its all little bars like certain lad holiday destinations.

Look at Ibiza and compair it with say Kavos, if anyone has been to Ibiza there is no trouble but you see places with little bars instead of proper night clubs in other holiday resorts and that is where the trouble is!

Put Bournemouths nightlife back to what it was in the late 90s early 2000s this will keep all the louts out.

Anyone who thinks its the proper clubs that start the trouble is very much out of the loop!

Finally - someone who can make the distinction between different types of night-time punter and night-time venue. Some on here seem to think every venue is the same and every customer is a thug out to hurt someone.This hits the nail on the head for me. Thank you.

Absolutely - but most on here don't ever go into clubs or bars of any kind so the sad thing is they aren't even aware such a diversity exists.
It's unfortunate that the opinions of those who shout loudest are often the opinions that are acted on, no matter how misjudged and incorrect.

Spot on with the point on the different types of punter too!

Been there, done that, probably before you were out of nappies. Clubs haven't changed much in that tie, neither has the music (repetitive unimaginative rehashed versions of whatever was last weeks/months/years choon) and neither have the people.
You all think you're doing something different, radical - the only generation to have been in a nightclub, but you're not.
There has and always will be an element that what to be a badass, a gangsta or whatever word todays yoof want to call it.

Some words about what that 'serious crime' was and how it was assoiciated with the club.

Not surprised they closed the place.

Still it must be a massive shame for all those poor folk who bought re-opening night tickets, more so if it is true what some have said on here .... there are no other bars and clubs in Bournemouth that the punters can go to..

KLH wrote:
Hot tub got craned out of the 'terrace' this afternoon and loaded onto a lorry.

No more puff adding in there.then.

Dont drop litter wrote:

MrPitiful wrote:

mark.s wrote:

Wesoblind wrote:
Ive said it 100 times on here and anyone with an ounce of brain matter will know where all the trouble is in Bournemouth, its the bars not the clubs! Granted this was not run very well befor but you cant blame the next owners. Just five years ago you could go out to Bournemouth at night and enjoy some good electronic music and have no fear of louts (if you kept away from walkabout)
Now all the decent music has gone and its all little bars like certain lad holiday destinations.

Look at Ibiza and compair it with say Kavos, if anyone has been to Ibiza there is no trouble but you see places with little bars instead of proper night clubs in other holiday resorts and that is where the trouble is!

Put Bournemouths nightlife back to what it was in the late 90s early 2000s this will keep all the louts out.

Anyone who thinks its the proper clubs that start the trouble is very much out of the loop!

Finally - someone who can make the distinction between different types of night-time punter and night-time venue. Some on here seem to think every venue is the same and every customer is a thug out to hurt someone.This hits the nail on the head for me. Thank you.

Absolutely - but most on here don't ever go into clubs or bars of any kind so the sad thing is they aren't even aware such a diversity exists.
It's unfortunate that the opinions of those who shout loudest are often the opinions that are acted on, no matter how misjudged and incorrect.

Spot on with the point on the different types of punter too!

Been there, done that, probably before you were out of nappies. Clubs haven't changed much in that tie, neither has the music (repetitive unimaginative rehashed versions of whatever was last weeks/months/years choon) and neither have the people.
You all think you're doing something different, radical - the only generation to have been in a nightclub, but you're not.
There has and always will be an element that what to be a badass, a gangsta or whatever word todays yoof want to call it.

Spot on.

does any one know where this idiot Carr lives ?

I think Bounemouthmum is Richard's Daughter-in-law (who invested some money into the club, see here http://www.bournemou
thecho.co.uk/news/10
278265.V_club__So_wh
o_exactly_owns_what_
/)

Cry us a river Richard Carr , you're a crook...good riddance to V.

Finally!! Thank God for that!

Could we not turn it into a meeting place/cafe for the Bulgarians/Rumanians who will be infiltrating the town next year. I feel sorry for the Polish people most because they will be taking thier summer low paid hotel jobs.

scrumpyjack wrote:

Dont drop litter wrote:

MrPitiful wrote:

mark.s wrote:

Wesoblind wrote:
Ive said it 100 times on here and anyone with an ounce of brain matter will know where all the trouble is in Bournemouth, its the bars not the clubs! Granted this was not run very well befor but you cant blame the next owners. Just five years ago you could go out to Bournemouth at night and enjoy some good electronic music and have no fear of louts (if you kept away from walkabout)
Now all the decent music has gone and its all little bars like certain lad holiday destinations.

Look at Ibiza and compair it with say Kavos, if anyone has been to Ibiza there is no trouble but you see places with little bars instead of proper night clubs in other holiday resorts and that is where the trouble is!

Put Bournemouths nightlife back to what it was in the late 90s early 2000s this will keep all the louts out.

Anyone who thinks its the proper clubs that start the trouble is very much out of the loop!

Finally - someone who can make the distinction between different types of night-time punter and night-time venue. Some on here seem to think every venue is the same and every customer is a thug out to hurt someone.This hits the nail on the head for me. Thank you.

Absolutely - but most on here don't ever go into clubs or bars of any kind so the sad thing is they aren't even aware such a diversity exists.
It's unfortunate that the opinions of those who shout loudest are often the opinions that are acted on, no matter how misjudged and incorrect.

Spot on with the point on the different types of punter too!

Been there, done that, probably before you were out of nappies. Clubs haven't changed much in that tie, neither has the music (repetitive unimaginative rehashed versions of whatever was last weeks/months/years choon) and neither have the people.
You all think you're doing something different, radical - the only generation to have been in a nightclub, but you're not.
There has and always will be an element that what to be a badass, a gangsta or whatever word todays yoof want to call it.

Spot on.

Not really.

I doubt very much that "don't drop litter" was in clubs before I was out of nappies.

The fact is that clubs and bars have changed over the years in more ways than he obviously appreciates - just like today's youth have chnaged, society has chnaged and everything else has chnaged since the "Good ol' days".

This is evident by the reference to the music - if you think all clubs play repetitive "choons" then unfortunately, it shows how out of touch you really are. Granted, some clubs do play music which to the older, uninformed ear might sound similar to other "choons" but this music is not played in every club, nor do clubs play "rehashed" music either. "V" club certainly didn't andneither do many of the others in Bournemouth.

The generation of clubbers today are all aware that we aren't the first to "club" - this is more empathy should be present. Todays 50/60 year olds are the exx-punks/mods/rocke
rs/hippies whose image and reputation were also tarnished by an unassociated minority.

Finally - todays "yoof" don't call any element of society "gangsta" or "badass". That is the language of either wannabe hip Dancing Dads at a bad wedding or once-a-year-drinking Daily Mail readers who wash their Nissan Micras every Sunday morning.

The use of this language clearly demonstrates in itself how quickly things can and do change.

Wow! What a load of horrible horrible people you are. You are more than entitled to make your comments regarding news stories on here but to personally attack a man in such a way is just disgusting. You have also managed to mention (and insult) half of his family. And some of you have even invented family members who do not even exist! I very much doubt any of you actually know him??! But to be so nasty to someone like this is beyond belief. My favourite quite (which actually prompted me to write on here) was "this Richard Carr sounds like a right idiot, does anyone know where he lives?" I mean seriously!? You obviously do not know him, you obviously have just formed your opinion from what others have posted on here! And what a stupid post!!! Like i said, I'm all for opinions on news stories but you guys are just beyond words, nasty, malicious, personal disgusting comments. It's people like you guys that really make me fear for this world. I know I will get a barrage of silly comments back from this but after watching these comments grow over the past 4 days I had to say something. What you are doing is nothing short of bullying. A good man once said to me "assumptions are the mother of all F***ups.... Leave the poor man alone and get on with your lives. It's too short.

Thegoodolddays wrote:
Wow! What a load of horrible horrible people you are. You are more than entitled to make your comments regarding news stories on here but to personally attack a man in such a way is just disgusting. You have also managed to mention (and insult) half of his family. And some of you have even invented family members who do not even exist! I very much doubt any of you actually know him??! But to be so nasty to someone like this is beyond belief. My favourite quite (which actually prompted me to write on here) was "this Richard Carr sounds like a right idiot, does anyone know where he lives?" I mean seriously!? You obviously do not know him, you obviously have just formed your opinion from what others have posted on here! And what a stupid post!!! Like i said, I'm all for opinions on news stories but you guys are just beyond words, nasty, malicious, personal disgusting comments. It's people like you guys that really make me fear for this world. I know I will get a barrage of silly comments back from this but after watching these comments grow over the past 4 days I had to say something. What you are doing is nothing short of bullying. A good man once said to me "assumptions are the mother of all F***ups.... Leave the poor man alone and get on with your lives. It's too short.

Some of us do know him, have had dealings with him, and been shafted by him.
So you won't understand why he's so hated.
He has no respect for women, employees, the law, his business contacts, in fact just about anyone.

Talkingheadera wrote:

Thegoodolddays wrote:
Wow! What a load of horrible horrible people you are. You are more than entitled to make your comments regarding news stories on here but to personally attack a man in such a way is just disgusting. You have also managed to mention (and insult) half of his family. And some of you have even invented family members who do not even exist! I very much doubt any of you actually know him??! But to be so nasty to someone like this is beyond belief. My favourite quite (which actually prompted me to write on here) was "this Richard Carr sounds like a right idiot, does anyone know where he lives?" I mean seriously!? You obviously do not know him, you obviously have just formed your opinion from what others have posted on here! And what a stupid post!!! Like i said, I'm all for opinions on news stories but you guys are just beyond words, nasty, malicious, personal disgusting comments. It's people like you guys that really make me fear for this world. I know I will get a barrage of silly comments back from this but after watching these comments grow over the past 4 days I had to say something. What you are doing is nothing short of bullying. A good man once said to me "assumptions are the mother of all F***ups.... Leave the poor man alone and get on with your lives. It's too short.

Some of us do know him, have had dealings with him, and been shafted by him.
So you won't understand why he's so hated.
He has no respect for women, employees, the law, his business contacts, in fact just about anyone.

The Bournemouth lynch mob rises again. People are entitled to their opinions but I do agree this has gone to far and some of these comments are verging on libelous. Its all too easy for people to tell their stories after then event if they thought him that bad they should have spoken out at the time. Pack mentality and telling lies on here just make some posts look stupid. As for the comment does anyone know where he lives? Grow up, are you 9?

Do you think I would of made that statement if I didn't know him? That would be completely hypocritical!! Like I said, everyone is allowed their opinion, but personal comments (which are based on hearsay or gossip) or plain and simple bullying is not on. And I will stick up for anyone I know who is treated in this way. I have known him for many years. I will say it again, everyone is entitled to opinions but bullying is cowardly, and people only ever do it to make themselves feel big. Whereas it's the most awful thing in the world. 

Unfortunately when you are hit in the wallet by fat boy it takes a lot of forgetting !

Roband65 wrote:
Unfortunately when you are hit in the wallet by fat boy it takes a lot of forgetting !

Hahahahahahaha! Brilliant! Well said!

Green hornet, I am actually feeling embarrassed (for you) for that very childish and playground like comment. 

Splisha wrote:
does any one know where this idiot Carr lives ?

Oh Yes unless he has moved recently!!

Oh for goodness sake, grow up! Your making yourselves look really stupid here. Why would you want to know where he lives???? WHY? Just because you know where he lives it doesn't make you special. I'm not liking the underlying feel of these comments and I'm sure the Echo haven't picked up on these or they would of been taken down. Asking where he lives is ridiculous, why would you need to know? And as for "oh yes unless he's moved".... What a ridiculous and stupid thing to say. Stop acting like bully's (cyber bullies I might add) NONE of you would have the guts to say any of this to his face so STOP it!!!! 

Oh for goodness sake, grow up! Your making yourselves look really stupid here. Why would you want to know where he lives???? WHY? Just because you know where he lives it doesn't make you special. I'm not liking the underlying feel of these comments and I'm sure the Echo haven't picked up on these or they would of been taken down. Asking where he lives is ridiculous, why would you need to know? And as for "oh yes unless he's moved".... What a ridiculous and stupid thing to say. Stop acting like bully's (cyber bullies I might add) NONE of you would have the guts to say any of this to his face so STOP it!!!! 

On another note I'm surprised that email address's and telephone numbers have not been blacked out in the health & safety report. I do not think it very professional of the Echo to publish these for all to see.

Thegoodolddays wrote:
Oh for goodness sake, grow up! Your making yourselves look really stupid here. Why would you want to know where he lives???? WHY? Just because you know where he lives it doesn't make you special. I'm not liking the underlying feel of these comments and I'm sure the Echo haven't picked up on these or they would of been taken down. Asking where he lives is ridiculous, why would you need to know? And as for "oh yes unless he's moved".... What a ridiculous and stupid thing to say. Stop acting like bully's (cyber bullies I might add) NONE of you would have the guts to say any of this to his face so STOP it!!!! 

Unfortunately the kind of comments you find on the Echo website are the nature of the beast if you're in the public eye.

If Richard Carr is really unhappy with them then perhaps he should go for a more low key career choice. Just like a celebrity when you become the owner/consultant for popular and controversial venues you have to know that if it all goes wrong you'll be front page news.

Personally I didn't like V, I'm unimpressed with the way it was managed based on the reports available and, from what I've heard of him, I'm not a big fan of Richard Carr. I don't care where he lives but I can understand why people who lost their money when he went into administration in the past word. It's a bitter pill to swallow when someone's business goes into administration leaving you seriously out of pocket and they APPEAR to come out unscathed and continue with their lifestyle.

It surprises me thought that the same venom isn't turned on YellowHammerBars who put Bliss & Chilli Whites into administration this January. I would assume they have creditors they owe money too and they won't be seeing it anytime soon. The worst thing is that they're a large company who could probably afford to pay those creditors off with money from other areas of the business. I guess doing that would be honourable but not profitable and everybody knows the bottom line is the balance sheet.

Dahlia77 wrote:
On another note I'm surprised that email address's and telephone numbers have not been blacked out in the health & safety report. I do not think it very professional of the Echo to publish these for all to see.

They didnt the council did!

Dibbles2 wrote:

Dahlia77 wrote:
On another note I'm surprised that email address's and telephone numbers have not been blacked out in the health & safety report. I do not think it very professional of the Echo to publish these for all to see.

They didnt the council did!

Umm then why is it on the Echo website in a link?

rozmister wrote:

Thegoodolddays wrote:
Oh for goodness sake, grow up! Your making yourselves look really stupid here. Why would you want to know where he lives???? WHY? Just because you know where he lives it doesn't make you special. I'm not liking the underlying feel of these comments and I'm sure the Echo haven't picked up on these or they would of been taken down. Asking where he lives is ridiculous, why would you need to know? And as for "oh yes unless he's moved".... What a ridiculous and stupid thing to say. Stop acting like bully's (cyber bullies I might add) NONE of you would have the guts to say any of this to his face so STOP it!!!! 

Unfortunately the kind of comments you find on the Echo website are the nature of the beast if you're in the public eye.

If Richard Carr is really unhappy with them then perhaps he should go for a more low key career choice. Just like a celebrity when you become the owner/consultant for popular and controversial venues you have to know that if it all goes wrong you'll be front page news.

Personally I didn't like V, I'm unimpressed with the way it was managed based on the reports available and, from what I've heard of him, I'm not a big fan of Richard Carr. I don't care where he lives but I can understand why people who lost their money when he went into administration in the past word. It's a bitter pill to swallow when someone's business goes into administration leaving you seriously out of pocket and they APPEAR to come out unscathed and continue with their lifestyle.

It surprises me thought that the same venom isn't turned on YellowHammerBars who put Bliss & Chilli Whites into administration this January. I would assume they have creditors they owe money too and they won't be seeing it anytime soon. The worst thing is that they're a large company who could probably afford to pay those creditors off with money from other areas of the business. I guess doing that would be honourable but not profitable and everybody knows the bottom line is the balance sheet.

Completely agree with this. Im the daughter of one of the hard working family man that Richard Carr took down with him and that day changed my entire family unit. Which consisted off stress to then a marriage failing and two children my brother and I watching our dad fall apart. My dad will never get back the business he lost due to the selfish and greedy man Mr Carr or the family we once had. So yes. Us "haters" "vile" "ridiculous" people have every right to be angry. When so many lives were affected by this man. I have every right to speak as I suffered the consequences first hand. Along with my then 12 year old brother mother and father.

Good riddance v!

Thegoodolddays wrote:
Oh for goodness sake, grow up! Your making yourselves look really stupid here. Why would you want to know where he lives???? WHY? Just because you know where he lives it doesn't make you special. I'm not liking the underlying feel of these comments and I'm sure the Echo haven't picked up on these or they would of been taken down. Asking where he lives is ridiculous, why would you need to know? And as for "oh yes unless he's moved".... What a ridiculous and stupid thing to say. Stop acting like bully's (cyber bullies I might add) NONE of you would have the guts to say any of this to his face so STOP it!!!! 

You do go on!!! zzzzz

jrumble2013 wrote:

rozmister wrote:

Thegoodolddays wrote:
Oh for goodness sake, grow up! Your making yourselves look really stupid here. Why would you want to know where he lives???? WHY? Just because you know where he lives it doesn't make you special. I'm not liking the underlying feel of these comments and I'm sure the Echo haven't picked up on these or they would of been taken down. Asking where he lives is ridiculous, why would you need to know? And as for "oh yes unless he's moved".... What a ridiculous and stupid thing to say. Stop acting like bully's (cyber bullies I might add) NONE of you would have the guts to say any of this to his face so STOP it!!!! 

Unfortunately the kind of comments you find on the Echo website are the nature of the beast if you're in the public eye.

If Richard Carr is really unhappy with them then perhaps he should go for a more low key career choice. Just like a celebrity when you become the owner/consultant for popular and controversial venues you have to know that if it all goes wrong you'll be front page news.

Personally I didn't like V, I'm unimpressed with the way it was managed based on the reports available and, from what I've heard of him, I'm not a big fan of Richard Carr. I don't care where he lives but I can understand why people who lost their money when he went into administration in the past word. It's a bitter pill to swallow when someone's business goes into administration leaving you seriously out of pocket and they APPEAR to come out unscathed and continue with their lifestyle.

It surprises me thought that the same venom isn't turned on YellowHammerBars who put Bliss & Chilli Whites into administration this January. I would assume they have creditors they owe money too and they won't be seeing it anytime soon. The worst thing is that they're a large company who could probably afford to pay those creditors off with money from other areas of the business. I guess doing that would be honourable but not profitable and everybody knows the bottom line is the balance sheet.

Completely agree with this. Im the daughter of one of the hard working family man that Richard Carr took down with him and that day changed my entire family unit. Which consisted off stress to then a marriage failing and two children my brother and I watching our dad fall apart. My dad will never get back the business he lost due to the selfish and greedy man Mr Carr or the family we once had. So yes. Us "haters" "vile" "ridiculous" people have every right to be angry. When so many lives were affected by this man. I have every right to speak as I suffered the consequences first hand. Along with my then 12 year old brother mother and father.

Good riddance v!

Here here.
We all wouldn't be on here slating him if it was a one off due to no fault of his own scenario.
Unfortunately it's always a premeditated thing with him. Get the cash out quick. Sod the suppliers and lets start again... And again.... And again. Until he runs out of people who are willing to put their name to his sordid little games.
I see he has now involved his son and
his gIrlfriend. Poor girl.

I think everyones missing the point, they've shut it down as a warning to all the other pubs and clubs to get their acts together or the same may happen to them. Probably Richard Carr being involved in the place helped them make that decision.
Maybe something good will come out of the poor bloke who had his face slashed by some nutter who lets face it could have done the same thing anywhere else in the town.
Patrons in all venues need protection from the very small section of society that wants to go out and cause trouble but regardless of what venues do there's still the chance something will happen on the streets.
Mandatory minimum sentancing improvements for using knifes and guns would be a good start, if your caught with one or using one penalties should be a lot harsher, it would help stop a lot of these attacks in the first place.

deanmatthews1966 wrote:
I think everyones missing the point, they've shut it down as a warning to all the other pubs and clubs to get their acts together or the same may happen to them. Probably Richard Carr being involved in the place helped them make that decision.
Maybe something good will come out of the poor bloke who had his face slashed by some nutter who lets face it could have done the same thing anywhere else in the town.
Patrons in all venues need protection from the very small section of society that wants to go out and cause trouble but regardless of what venues do there's still the chance something will happen on the streets.
Mandatory minimum sentancing improvements for using knifes and guns would be a good start, if your caught with one or using one penalties should be a lot harsher, it would help stop a lot of these attacks in the first place.

Good points & well put.

But surely you must be aware that violent incidents only ever happen in Bournemouth and it's all because we have nasty men opening nightclubs all over town These nightclubs are all full of drunk stags every weekend full of drugs & carrying knives.

This is according to all the people who comment on here who are obviously in these clubs in town, week in, week out so they do know about thses things.