Gritting lorry overturns as freezing rain turns roads "into ice rink"

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MOTORISTS are being warned to take extra care on Dorset’s roads this morning due to icy conditions.

A gritter lorry overturned on the B3351 Studland Road near to Purbeck Golf Course early this morning, shedding its load across the carriageway.

The road was closed both ways while the grit was cleaned up but other roads in the area may be ungritted because of this incident.

A car overturned in Little Lonnen Road, near Wimborne - and then the recovery vehicle sent to rescue it also got stuck and had to be rescued. Residents said the area was very icy, especially in the recently resurfaced Sandy Lane.

The top level of the Castlepoint car park was closed because of black ice until 9.15 am.

Ling Road in Poole was closed southbound due to ice. Echo readers are reporting that roads in Parkstone and Poole are especially icy, with footpaths in Parkstone described as an "ice rink".  Some are said to be unusable with pedestrians walking in the road for "safety".

Where's been been gritted, weather warnings and latest news in our weather section

Dorset Police say they have already had a number of phone calls regarding the state of the roads due to the heavy overnight frost and say conditions are “treacherous” in some areas.

They are advising motorists to leave ample time to get to their destinations and to make sure windows on vehicles are clear before setting off.

Rural parts of Dorset are particularly bad, thanks to freezing rain which fell after the first round of gritting last night.

Gritting lorries did their first round at 2pm yesterday. The Met Office weather warning for ice and freezing rain - a very rare phenomenon which sees rain or snow "supercooled" as it falls so that it freezes on contact with the ground - was not issued until 10.30pm and county council gritters were out continuously from 12.30am. 

 

Bmth's main network of roads have been gritted this morning, but please do take extreme care on footpaths and side roads.

— Bournemouth Council (@bournemouthbc) December 12, 2012

What is freezing rain?

Gritters were sent out again in Bournemouth and Dorset around 9.30am as ice was still causing a problem across the county.

Simon Legg, streetscene manager, Borough of Poole, said: “Our gritters were out from 7pm on Tuesday evening and this year we have treated more roads than in previous years."

“The moisture in the air combined with the cold temperatures last night has led to icy conditions on the roads but we are prioritising gritting requests during the day and will be gritting roads again this evening if the weather conditions don’t improve.”

Let us know what it's like where you are in the comments, or by emailing sam.shepherd@bournemouthecho.co.uk.


 

 

 

Comments(40)

Mr N James says...
8:48am Wed 12 Dec 12

so a gritter has over turned has shed its load of grit.Cant see a problem there.

speedy231278 says...
9:23am Wed 12 Dec 12

So, in other words, the gritters were sent out too late, AFTER it had iced, yet again, and as a result even a vehicle that ought to be set up sepcifically to cope with the potential of an icy road road has crashed. Just shows the contempt for motorists this council has. Quite happy to rake in a fortune in parking fines, but when it comes to spending money on the roads, it's always too little, too late....

Parkstonegal says...
9:41am Wed 12 Dec 12

speedy231278 wrote:
So, in other words, the gritters were sent out too late, AFTER it had iced, yet again, and as a result even a vehicle that ought to be set up sepcifically to cope with the potential of an icy road road has crashed. Just shows the contempt for motorists this council has. Quite happy to rake in a fortune in parking fines, but when it comes to spending money on the roads, it's always too little, too late....
I don't think u realise how hard the council workers work! I know someone that does the gritting and they work alot of hours over this time and do there best!! Do you know how many miles of road there are in Dorset!!! Would love to see you do a better job!!

ashleycross says...
10:00am Wed 12 Dec 12

if you have neighbours who deice their cars with water on their drives that then runs onto the pavement and freezes, please report them to the council as this ice amounts to an obstruction to the highway. Then I won't have slip up in the ice slides they've created.

poolemaninscotland says...
10:01am Wed 12 Dec 12

Poole council should hang there heads in shame. Parkstone is an absolute nightmare on the roads and the pavements. No gritting has been carried out around Newtown and Alderney and the amount of people who have fallen over on the pavements in this area is disgraceful. I live on the top of a hill and requested a grit bin over a year ago and I didn't even get a reply to my email. Disgraceful is an understatement. Fuming

Adrian XX says...
10:18am Wed 12 Dec 12

I'm sure the gritting lorry has winter tyres. Doesn't it?

HRH of Boscombe says...
10:25am Wed 12 Dec 12

We've known this weather's been coming for days. As per usual the gritters go out too late. It's their own stupid fault.

Ebb Tide says...
10:50am Wed 12 Dec 12

poolemaninscotland wrote:
Poole council should hang there heads in shame. Parkstone is an absolute nightmare on the roads and the pavements. No gritting has been carried out around Newtown and Alderney and the amount of people who have fallen over on the pavements in this area is disgraceful. I live on the top of a hill and requested a grit bin over a year ago and I didn't even get a reply to my email. Disgraceful is an understatement. Fuming
Guess our local Accident and Emergency services will have had extra work too because of the absence of appropriate care and attention by the inhabitants of Poole and the service providers that they employ and monitor through their elected Councillors !!!

Sovietobserver says...
10:56am Wed 12 Dec 12

Some posters are failing to take into account the fact that the gritter drivers are subject to driver's hours regulations and are required for work the next day.Frequency of salting required is most complicated and depends on a number of factors. A major issue can be salt being blown away by heavy traffic before brine has formed. It is not as simple as you seem to think.

iampuzzled says...
11:03am Wed 12 Dec 12

Headline says 'ice hits Dorset roads and pavements'.
So according to the Echo, ice is now an animate object?
Rather than ice just forming, it actually gets up to strike the roads and pavements but , strike with what (:o))

Repo says...
11:17am Wed 12 Dec 12

Parkstonegal wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
So, in other words, the gritters were sent out too late, AFTER it had iced, yet again, and as a result even a vehicle that ought to be set up sepcifically to cope with the potential of an icy road road has crashed. Just shows the contempt for motorists this council has. Quite happy to rake in a fortune in parking fines, but when it comes to spending money on the roads, it's always too little, too late....
I don't think u realise how hard the council workers work! I know someone that does the gritting and they work alot of hours over this time and do there best!! Do you know how many miles of road there are in Dorset!!! Would love to see you do a better job!!
Wow! and they do it all for free ???

Sovietobserver says...
11:23am Wed 12 Dec 12

iampuzzled wrote:
Headline says 'ice hits Dorset roads and pavements'.
So according to the Echo, ice is now an animate object?
Rather than ice just forming, it actually gets up to strike the roads and pavements but , strike with what (:o))
I was driving out of Immingham docks early yesterday on the A160 dual-carraigeway. The big continental truck in front of me suddenly started disposing large slabs of ice from its canvas roof. Most were hitting the road and flying in all directions, whilst I dodged them. Scary.So it does happen.

iampuzzled says...
11:28am Wed 12 Dec 12

Sovietobserver
Thanks for that but the Echo said that the ice strikes were in Dorset (:o))

static kill says...
11:30am Wed 12 Dec 12

Due to new European health and safety legislation, it will soon be illegal to operate gritters in icy conditions, which hopefully will prevent this type of accident.

iampuzzled says...
11:34am Wed 12 Dec 12

static kill
I expect that the next thing to come from Europe is an 'Elf n Safty' rule which says that it will be illegal to use ANY vehicle in icy conditions (:o))

TinyLegacy says...
11:40am Wed 12 Dec 12

Why start pointing fingers and moaning? Take some responsibility people. Drive according to the conditions. If walking, just do it more carefully than usual... it's ice, not a crocodile infested pool.

HRH of Boscombe says...
11:44am Wed 12 Dec 12

Parkstonegal wrote:
speedy231278 wrote: So, in other words, the gritters were sent out too late, AFTER it had iced, yet again, and as a result even a vehicle that ought to be set up sepcifically to cope with the potential of an icy road road has crashed. Just shows the contempt for motorists this council has. Quite happy to rake in a fortune in parking fines, but when it comes to spending money on the roads, it's always too little, too late....
I don't think u realise how hard the council workers work! I know someone that does the gritting and they work alot of hours over this time and do there best!! Do you know how many miles of road there are in Dorset!!! Would love to see you do a better job!!
What a load of rubbish. It's their job. They should just go out earlier to make sure it's covered before it freezes. Tell your mate the emergency services will now be working harder and risking their lives because the gritters couldn't be bothered to start a bit earlier.

Imaximus says...
12:08pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Lol at you grumpy lot. Merry Crimbo.

B.F.G says...
12:09pm Wed 12 Dec 12

ashleycross wrote:
if you have neighbours who deice their cars with water on their drives that then runs onto the pavement and freezes, please report them to the council as this ice amounts to an obstruction to the highway. Then I won't have slip up in the ice slides they've created.
Haha, yes ok, sure.

Please can you let me know which department to report this issue to?

poolemaninscotland says...
1:21pm Wed 12 Dec 12

TinyLegacy wrote:
Why start pointing fingers and moaning? Take some responsibility people. Drive according to the conditions. If walking, just do it more carefully than usual... it's ice, not a crocodile infested pool.
You try saying be a little bit more careful to the little old lady who fell on the icy pavements on Cynthia Road this morning and broke her hip in two places you complete Moron. I hope to god she wasnt related to you if this is how you think. The council take a huge amount of money every year off us taxpayers to provide a service and gritting is part of this. In Scotland they have little quad bikes with gritting trailers on the back that do every single pavement so there is no excuse. It is sheer incompetance and bad managemen5t by the Borough of Poole Council.

Jenny PoshPaws says...
1:28pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Hubby left to go to Poole this morning. He got a third of the way up the drive, then slid gracefully back to the front door again. He eventually got to the pavement by way of our grassed area!

Phixer says...
2:54pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Parkstonegal wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
So, in other words, the gritters were sent out too late, AFTER it had iced, yet again, and as a result even a vehicle that ought to be set up sepcifically to cope with the potential of an icy road road has crashed. Just shows the contempt for motorists this council has. Quite happy to rake in a fortune in parking fines, but when it comes to spending money on the roads, it's always too little, too late....
I don't think u realise how hard the council workers work! I know someone that does the gritting and they work alot of hours over this time and do there best!! Do you know how many miles of road there are in Dorset!!! Would love to see you do a better job!!
The issue is whether we are receiving the service we are paying for. No doubt there are plenty of other council staff that are capable of driving a gritter, given training, that could provide 24hr coverage.

And before you ask, I've driven a snow plough in anger.

Dj Kaz says...
3:00pm Wed 12 Dec 12

HEADLINE SUGGESTION! Oh Grit!!!

Ebb Tide says...
3:47pm Wed 12 Dec 12

poolemaninscotland wrote:
TinyLegacy wrote:
Why start pointing fingers and moaning? Take some responsibility people. Drive according to the conditions. If walking, just do it more carefully than usual... it's ice, not a crocodile infested pool.
You try saying be a little bit more careful to the little old lady who fell on the icy pavements on Cynthia Road this morning and broke her hip in two places you complete Moron. I hope to god she wasnt related to you if this is how you think. The council take a huge amount of money every year off us taxpayers to provide a service and gritting is part of this. In Scotland they have little quad bikes with gritting trailers on the back that do every single pavement so there is no excuse. It is sheer incompetance and bad managemen5t by the Borough of Poole Council.
Thank goodness we have the NHS Accident & Emergency services but why allow the creation of more work for them ?

Quad bikes with gritting trailers I would like to see - could be more cost effective let alone able to get to those parts that our ordinary gritters cannot reach !!.

djkent says...
4:28pm Wed 12 Dec 12

the trouble is there is enough grit but there are not enough lorries to go out on the roads fat cat council want to spend money on xmas party

djkent says...
4:28pm Wed 12 Dec 12

the trouble is there is enough grit but there are not enough lorries to go out on the roads fat cat council want to spend money on xmas party

EGHH says...
4:39pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Why is Britain so ill prepared. My Canadian friend thinks we are joke as they have 6 foot snow drifts and still manage to keep road and rail running.

Ebb Tide says...
4:48pm Wed 12 Dec 12

EGHH wrote:
Why is Britain so ill prepared. My Canadian friend thinks we are joke as they have 6 foot snow drifts and still manage to keep road and rail running.
Even my North Country cousins (within the UK) agree with your Canadian friend !! Life goes on in Northumberland and Durham.despite a frost !!!

paul.p says...
6:36pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Perhaps they'd like to look at the tacho and see what rate of knots they were travelling at, i'm sure I read somewhere the maximum speed when spreading is 20 mph, I'd still like to see that in reality.

But on a positive note I do like it when the weather's like this, lots of empty roads for me to hone my skills towards being a better and safer driver, you never stop learning.

Turtlebay says...
7:33pm Wed 12 Dec 12

After spending 5 minutes scraping ice off their windows why do 99% of car drivers assume that ALL roads have been gritted and continue to drive too fast and too close to the vehicle in front of them?

Hobad1 says...
7:39pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Sovietobserver wrote:
iampuzzled wrote:
Headline says 'ice hits Dorset roads and pavements'.
So according to the Echo, ice is now an animate object?
Rather than ice just forming, it actually gets up to strike the roads and pavements but , strike with what (:o))
I was driving out of Immingham docks early yesterday on the A160 dual-carraigeway. The big continental truck in front of me suddenly started disposing large slabs of ice from its canvas roof. Most were hitting the road and flying in all directions, whilst I dodged them. Scary.So it does happen.
Yeah i think the first guy was taking the p!ss.

Weird world says...
7:42pm Wed 12 Dec 12

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
Parkstonegal wrote:
speedy231278 wrote: So, in other words, the gritters were sent out too late, AFTER it had iced, yet again, and as a result even a vehicle that ought to be set up sepcifically to cope with the potential of an icy road road has crashed. Just shows the contempt for motorists this council has. Quite happy to rake in a fortune in parking fines, but when it comes to spending money on the roads, it's always too little, too late....
I don't think u realise how hard the council workers work! I know someone that does the gritting and they work alot of hours over this time and do there best!! Do you know how many miles of road there are in Dorset!!! Would love to see you do a better job!!
What a load of rubbish. It's their job. They should just go out earlier to make sure it's covered before it freezes. Tell your mate the emergency services will now be working harder and risking their lives because the gritters couldn't be bothered to start a bit earlier.
It's that time of year again to moan at the gritter drivers! Nobody's even asked if the driver is ok?
Don't people realise that they can only go out when they are told, crews are on call around the clock, sometimes gritting after having already done a days work!
Yes they may get paid, but not nothing like you think, they have had a huge pay cut in the past months. To try and save you an increase in council tax!

Respect the weather and drive for the conditions!

Lord Spring says...
8:00pm Wed 12 Dec 12

EGHH wrote:
Why is Britain so ill prepared. My Canadian friend thinks we are joke as they have 6 foot snow drifts and still manage to keep road and rail running.
Ask your Canadian friend what they do before the snow falls and have conditions like we had this morning, they dread it.

funky_elephant says...
8:41pm Wed 12 Dec 12

The pavements in the Branksome area this morning were lethal. I walked in the cycle lane on Bournemouth Road along with many others as I didn't particularly want to end up in A&E. Gritting had clearly taken place but seemed to have had little effect on freezing rain. Snow would have been preferable to these dangerous conditions. Drivers, probably late for work, were clearly frustrated at the nose to tail traffic heading towards Poole and were charging down side roads which were ungritted - with idiots like that around it's no surprise we have accidents.

Vikki27 says...
9:29pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Completely agree with all the comments defending the council and the gritters on this point.

First of all, we all forgive ourselves for sometimes failing to be perfect in our jobs, yet so few of us permit the same allowance of others. When did our society get to be so selfish?

I firmly believe that they will have done the best they can...but you can't expect them to beat Mother Nature all the time! If the water froze as soon as it hit the ground, and it was continuously hitting the ground, how could anyone reasonably expect them to grit everything!? It just isn't possible! Besides which, do you really think they're going to do anything to encourage you lot of whinging minnies??

A wise man once said 'every job is easy to the man who's never tried'. Perhaps you should try before you cast aspersions. And if you can't then pipe down for goodness sakes.

So for those members of the council and the gritters who worked so hard...the weather got the better of you this time but you did a damned good try and don't let anyone make you think otherwise.

stevehiggi says...
12:44am Thu 13 Dec 12

Just for the moaning minnies and girlies among you. The gritter drivers are paid very poorly indeed for what they do. This cold weather also makes my work very busy too. If you lot drove, walked or rode with care as advised by many media sources then many incidents would never happen. Also, the gritter drivers have to follow certain routes that cant cover everysingle little side road or country lane in the area. Use your initiative and act accordingly to the conditions that prevail. `` I live in a cul de sac but i dont moan cause a gritter cant get up the road. I just go carefully.

poolemaninscotland says...
8:33am Thu 13 Dec 12

I would like to state that I am not criticising the lorry drivers. What I am criticising is the way the council have not invested in the proper equipment to clear pavements and back roads. We pay so much in council tax but I never see anything different every year. I ask for a grit bin on the top of our hill and don't even get a reply. I would grit the road myself so you don't have to pay for more staff. It's a joke and a shambles once again by Poole Council

Phixer says...
10:06am Thu 13 Dec 12

EGHH wrote:
Why is Britain so ill prepared. My Canadian friend thinks we are joke as they have 6 foot snow drifts and still manage to keep road and rail running.
Because urban Dorset doesn't usually have 6 foot snow drifts - well, not every year.

How much do you want the local councils to take from your pocket to pay for additional trucks, equipment, etc.?

No doubt the Canadians, as well as others, can afford to invest in winter tyres, etc., because they know they will be needed every year and probably for 3-4 months. In Dorset we are unlikely to need such equipment for more than 6-7 days; some years not at all.

I am currently in Norway where it is snowing but the temperature is so cold that wet snow or ice are not a problem. The locals all have winter tyres fitted and the snow is so dry that it does not cause a problem when driving.

The UK weather situation is not comparable to Canada.

static kill says...
10:33am Thu 13 Dec 12

If they drove backwards this wouldn't have happened.

Hector2004 says...
12:28pm Thu 13 Dec 12

If there was a speed camera situated at 100yard intervals on every road in Dorset, this would never have happened. You could fit them to the traffic lights. Better still, if all cars were fitted with a mandatory spike below the driver seat that would impale the driver if they approached 30mph, you could be sure it wouldn’t happen. It would be like the inverse of that film where there was a bomb on the bus..

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