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Bayside Blues: Festival sees low turnout
11:30am Tuesday 31st July 2012 in News By Emily Stott
THE Bayside Festival in Weymouth has been hit by the low number of visitors to the town.
The festival’s managing director, Joe Hill, said: “Our capacity is 9,000 at any one time but at our busiest time so far, the maximum we’ve had here is about 3,600.
“We want to be entertaining a lot more people. It’s been disappointing in terms of numbers. In terms of what we’ve got going on here, there is so much to do and see. It’s a great value, fun family day out in Weymouth.
“We want everyone to know that Weymouth is very much open.”
Marketing boss Richard Walters said: “We have the capacity to look after a lot more people than we have at the moment. Come by train, bus, car – the roads have never been clearer.”
When asked about Take That tribute band tickets being reduced from £10 to £5, Mr Hill said: “We are offering additional tickets to customers who bought their tickets at £10.
“If they bought a £10 ticket, we are offering a free ticket to see one of the other bands playing at the Bayside Festival for free. So far, everybody seems to be happy with that.”
Traders from the many shopping stalls situated next to the Pavilion haven’t seen as many people coming through as they had expected.
Paul Bertie, managing director of Ocean World based on the Isle of Wight, said : “It has been very disappointing. A lot of people are afraid to come into Weymouth. They really need to change all the signs to say Weymouth is open.
“The figures of people expected to attend have been so wrong. It’s been about a tenth of what they said.”
He added: “I feel so sorry for the local traders and hotels in Weymouth. People have said to me they hope that once the Olympics leave there will be an influx of people and then the season can really start.”
Sasha Chowdhury, co-running the fashion outlet stall, said: “It’s been terrible. They are just not coming up this far, they go as far as the screens showing the Olympics and then stop.”
She said she would be contacting the organisers to get more signs and advertising for the festival.
Charlotte Bennett from the Joules stall, said: “It could have been better. It’s been a lot quieter than we expected. We expected it to be more widely advertised.”
Bethan Helm, also from Joules, said: “I know they have been trying to encourage people to come in by changing the prices. I just don’t think many people even realise we are here.”
Visitors enjoyed the music and the bar but a group that had come from London were disappointed with the turn out.
Larry Stockton, 45, from London said: “We have had great fun but I did expect a lot more people here. I mean they've put the price down to £1 so what does that say?”
Richard Saddle of Warwickshire, whose son Sam Saddle owns Saddle Creek clothing, said: “It’s great to be here and be a part of the Olympics. We just need a few more people for business.”
Philip Marsh, managing director of Chatham Marine, said: “We expected more people of our clientele coming through the doors. That’s what we were told. We specialise in technical footwear for sailing and it’s mainly holidaymakers coming through the doors.”
Mr Marsh added: “People don’t know there is a shopping village here. The pitch has very expensive rent and if it carries on like this there is no way we can make that back.”
Comments(62)
terra firma
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11:45am Tue 31 Jul 12
Meant to add a well done to those whole organsied the diversion through Redlands on saturday after that smash. That at least worked well.
and
If Locog are easing the traffic restrictions in London, why can't we down here
ManOnTheSilverMountain
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12:06pm Tue 31 Jul 12
Really, what were they thinking...
Everyone is sick and tired of ripoff Britain, and ripoff Olympics.
Bayside Festival needs to go free for the rest of the Olympics, and anyone that had bought a ticket can spend upto the ticketprice it at the food or drink stands.
Last year many of these bands were free to see on the BeachLive event, so why cash-in now it's Olympics time? Greed (the same reason all those guesthouses are empty...)
Monmouthsman
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12:49pm Tue 31 Jul 12
How could it be that an event of this nature had such poor publicity and transport considerations? Best the bill for this disaster made by incompetence does not fall to us Council Tax payers.
islandman
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1:00pm Tue 31 Jul 12
Aside from that, whilst we were in, I couldn't help but comment that we almost forgot we were in that normally desolate area of grey nothingness.
If only someone somewhere would do something with the area and transform it. The tower is a beginning, but for many people, once they have tried it, that will be it. As for the Pavilion, words fail me. As I walked down the promenade today, I overheard visitors ask a group of four policemen where the Tourist Board was. As they clearly didn't know, I told them. The reply was "oh we're not walking right down there, in case what we are looking for is back up here".
rjimmer
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1:13pm Tue 31 Jul 12
terra firma wrote:I had been told that all that coastline as far as WhiteNose, was to be cordoned off with access limited to those with official Olympic tickets. P***ups and breweries don't come anywhere near this lot.
Apart from the paying public I am absolutely gobsmacked at the lack of visitors using the free vantage points along the coast from Bowleaze to Ringstead.
In Monday's televised events I counted a handful of people other than in the car parks at the Smugglers and Riviera!
We in Wimborne have had £8m invested in the carbuncle which once was a roundabout at Canford Bottom - and months of noisy night works - to speed the non-existent traffic. Added to that, the Merley junction is closed to traffic accessing or leaving the A31 when there is time to put on a procession between vehicles using it.
With all the hooey about security, dare I suggest that police numbers could be drastically reduced to save on £££££££ overtime now that there are no people to deal with?
monkeydog
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1:34pm Tue 31 Jul 12
rjimmer
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1:39pm Tue 31 Jul 12
monkeydog wrote:What would you call Simon Williams then?
This is the biggest event in Weymouth's history and what do we have? 17 tribute bands and shows headlining days events at the Bayside. 17! Bridport have better and more original acts on any weekend than Weymouth can find in a year. Anyone who is satisfied with this obviously has never lived anywhere else or is remarkably easily pleased. Before anyone starts - this is not a moan, it's a plea. This is a good sized town. Can we have an ambitious, innovative council, events organizer, entertainments officer,entrepreneur - whatever - anyone who can bring in original, exciting acts befitting the town which deserves more.
WeyDave
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1:59pm Tue 31 Jul 12
rjimmer wrote:Who's Simon Williams?
monkeydog wrote: This is the biggest event in Weymouth's history and what do we have? 17 tribute bands and shows headlining days events at the Bayside. 17! Bridport have better and more original acts on any weekend than Weymouth can find in a year. Anyone who is satisfied with this obviously has never lived anywhere else or is remarkably easily pleased. Before anyone starts - this is not a moan, it's a plea. This is a good sized town. Can we have an ambitious, innovative council, events organizer, entertainments officer,entrepreneur - whatever - anyone who can bring in original, exciting acts befitting the town which deserves more.What would you call Simon Williams then?
monkeydog
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2:08pm Tue 31 Jul 12
rjimmer wrote:I assume you mean the head of the Olympic effort down here. Can he get some decent acts in? If not, what's your point?
monkeydog wrote:What would you call Simon Williams then?
This is the biggest event in Weymouth's history and what do we have? 17 tribute bands and shows headlining days events at the Bayside. 17! Bridport have better and more original acts on any weekend than Weymouth can find in a year. Anyone who is satisfied with this obviously has never lived anywhere else or is remarkably easily pleased. Before anyone starts - this is not a moan, it's a plea. This is a good sized town. Can we have an ambitious, innovative council, events organizer, entertainments officer,entrepreneur - whatever - anyone who can bring in original, exciting acts befitting the town which deserves more.
John New
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2:19pm Tue 31 Jul 12
Amteach
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2:42pm Tue 31 Jul 12
John New
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2:44pm Tue 31 Jul 12
MaidofDorset
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3:02pm Tue 31 Jul 12
I would have paid £10 to hear 'Lucid', but to get Show of Hands for £10 as well was a remarkable bargain as I had paid £40 in the spring to see them in the Royal Albert Hall, and they were on especially fine form last night.
For everyone concerned about seating, there was a large amount of picnic benches to sit down at.
Walking back past the Pavilion towards the train station gave us the most beautiful view of the bay.
In town, the Olympics seemed to have discouraged the chavs and their feral brats. The few children about were behaving beautifully.
To cut it short, the town was a thoroughly nice place to visit yesterday. I might even go to Bayside again.
paddyash
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3:03pm Tue 31 Jul 12
guesthouseownerweymouth
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3:06pm Tue 31 Jul 12
in - you are very misinformed and naive - we own a B&B in the centre of Weymouth and have only a third of our rooms full - some times during the olympics our B&B is empty. We have been here 4 years and have never been empty this time of year - AND WE ARE NOT CHARGING ANY MORE THAN USUAL!!!!!!
Mr Frible
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3:07pm Tue 31 Jul 12
As for the rest of the festival, entry should be free and get some more local bands on stage during the day. Good selection of food, clean toilets, on a sunny day its a good place to pass an hour or two listening to live music with a beer.
Just need to get the word out that Weymouth is open and this is a chance to feel part of the Olympics without travelling to London and paying a fortune.
Its time to support local events and businesses, not moan and complain, you can always do that later.
Mr Frible
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3:12pm Tue 31 Jul 12
MaidofDorset wrote:totally agree about the feel in the town. A bit of sun and more people about and we can see what Weymouth could become if it aimed its sights a little higher.
I spent £13.90 on train fare and Bayside Festival entry yesterday. The train was almost empty, and my ticket to Bayside was well worth the £10.
I would have paid £10 to hear 'Lucid', but to get Show of Hands for £10 as well was a remarkable bargain as I had paid £40 in the spring to see them in the Royal Albert Hall, and they were on especially fine form last night.
For everyone concerned about seating, there was a large amount of picnic benches to sit down at.
Walking back past the Pavilion towards the train station gave us the most beautiful view of the bay.
In town, the Olympics seemed to have discouraged the chavs and their feral brats. The few children about were behaving beautifully.
To cut it short, the town was a thoroughly nice place to visit yesterday. I might even go to Bayside again.
rjimmer
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3:32pm Tue 31 Jul 12
Jello Biafra
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3:47pm Tue 31 Jul 12
monkeydog
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3:53pm Tue 31 Jul 12
rjimmer wrote:I admire your admiration of Mr Williams but it doesn't change the fact that Weymouth is generally presented with poor quality entertainment and I should hope the town is ambitious enough to want to do better. As someone said earlier, a Michael Buble impersonator is not good enough even if he has some talent. I will endeavour to follow Mr Williams' career, of which I know almost nothing, and see if he comes up with something that I can't see in a local pub. For my part the last headlining quality act I saw was in Bridport, the next will be in Poole. I accept I might have missed something in Weymouth but I think not.
monkeydog says...2:08pm Tue 31 Jul 12 "I assume you mean the head of the Olympic effort down here. Can he get some decent acts in? If not, what's your point?" .....My point is that we already have an ambitious, innovative council, events organizer, entertainments officer,entrepreneur - whatever - called Simon Williams.
rjimmer
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4:34pm Tue 31 Jul 12
monkeydog
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4:44pm Tue 31 Jul 12
rjimmer wrote:It's lost on me. I can only assume you are being ironic in extolling the virtues of a former planner being in charge of entertainment. Pardon me.
monkeydog says...3:53pm Tue 31 Jul 12......Humour is lost on some people.
Amicus
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5:25pm Tue 31 Jul 12
Good show, what!
manyogie
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6:13pm Tue 31 Jul 12
snowleopard
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6:14pm Tue 31 Jul 12
Some legacy this is going to be!
wessex-andy
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6:21pm Tue 31 Jul 12
Monday was a beautiful sunny summer day at the height of the season and although I spent three or four hours walking around the town and the Esplanade I thought that there were fewer people about than usual for this time of year.
The sandy part of the beach had some people taking advantage of the elbow room, but once past the clock, the beach was near deserted.
Personally, I have next to no interest in any of the Olympic Games, but the vast majority of people do seem to be interested. I think that the doom and gloom traffic forecasts that have been given out for the past months (years), together with the promise of increased charges for everything have put them off coming here.
I know that I have probably been one of the misery merchants over the past months, predicting a failed event, but it looks as though we were correct. In spite of my gloomy predictions, I really wanted the town to do well. You have no idea just how much I wanted to be proved wrong.
TenBobDylanThomasHardy
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8:27pm Tue 31 Jul 12
p.s. ...and the 'need' for it was identified twenty years before I moved in!
PEJ
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8:37pm Tue 31 Jul 12
common cence
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9:35pm Tue 31 Jul 12
rjimmer
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9:39pm Tue 31 Jul 12
dy ..8:27pm Tue 31 Jul 12......Now let's hope the rest of the road to Portland is built PDQ, seeing as there is nothing in sailing, for the local people. Portland could have been a thriving deep-water port by now if it hadn't been for W&PBC planners pandering to the yahties.
ksmain
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9:54pm Tue 31 Jul 12
snowleopard wrote:But strangely they think Weymouth isnt.
Just seen on News that London also suffering from low number of visitors during Olympics.
Some legacy this is going to be!
Culled from page 2 of the Dorset Echo yesterday maybe?
**** just been passed on the relief road by some tumbleweed ........
Yellowcave
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10:04pm Tue 31 Jul 12
On the other hand would I like to park and walk a very long way to stand outside and see the bands on offer? Possibly. For the prices quoted? 'Fraid not!
jcrwey
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10:45pm Tue 31 Jul 12
As for the Car Parks some of the Park & Ride sites are free from tomorrow - just confirmed online.
kildare43
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12:33am Wed 1 Aug 12
firelighter
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9:23am Wed 1 Aug 12
vickg1250
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9:27am Wed 1 Aug 12
firelighter
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9:31am Wed 1 Aug 12
ManOnTheSilverMountain
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9:33am Wed 1 Aug 12
outh
Some friends of ours had Sailing tickets, and all the guesthouses they tried in Weymouth were charging £170 a night during the Olympics for a tatty room. How is that not greed? I'm happy it's all gone wrong for them, I see 2/3rd of guesthouses on the seafront with Vacancies and some with £35 rooms spare.
Out friends are now staying in a guesthouse near Swyre where they didn't get ripped off with pre-games pricing.
Merrittpr
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9:50am Wed 1 Aug 12
Merrittpr
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9:58am Wed 1 Aug 12
bollywood
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10:54am Wed 1 Aug 12
During the winter months clear the beach of the tacky take away and amusement dross that lowers the area. Weymouth has a lovely esplanade and beach and deserves so much better than lasers that don't do anything for the area and a factory chimney stuck on the end of the pier. Come on Councillors prove that you can do better
Karen1972
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1:26pm Wed 1 Aug 12
On the subject of my visitors - I had to book them into a Wareham hotel as nobody in Weymouth would take my 2 night mid week booking for 38 people. This had to be booked in February latest due to arranging flights etc.
dogboy1
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1:30pm Wed 1 Aug 12
All I can say is get out there and have a look - as I regular whinger about Weymouth, I have been pleasantly surprised at how much I have enjoyed the festivities.
JamesYoung
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2:13pm Wed 1 Aug 12
dogboy1 wrote:The security staff at the Beach Live area are also very, very polite. I also don't think £5 is a lot to pay (although £25 starts to sound like a lot when you have 3 kids in tow and have to pay £5 for a bacon sandwich too). I think those who have worked or volunteered to help have done a fantastic job. I think the athletes are doing a fantastic job. I do think its sad that local bands were expected to play for free when tribute acts were paid. It's the officials and the council that have the questions to answer.
In terms of the festival - I was offered free entry on Saturday whilst watching the battle for the winds, but declined to see the George Michael tribute. However went last night to the Motown tribute and it was fantastic. I know these are tribute acts but the quality of the music was fantastic and the atmosphere was great. I don't think a fiver is too much to pay for several hours of live music. Curiously the security were also the nicest I have ever met - all of them wishing us a good night on our way out! Also I used my bicycle so no worries re closed roads.
All I can say is get out there and have a look - as I regular whinger about Weymouth, I have been pleasantly surprised at how much I have enjoyed the festivities.
guesthouseownerweymouth
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2:15pm Wed 1 Aug 12
ain, we are charging our usual rate of £70 per night double room, we are 100 yards from th sea front and are 14th on trip advisor - we do not advertise on laterooms etc so perhaps your friends only looked on those sites. There are many B&B's that are not charging those sort of rates, it is only the minority ruining it for us all, please dont tar us all with the same brush and make assumptions based on a few. The ones who have charged that amount are probably on those booking sites who I believe are also encouraging them to put up their rates!
guesthouseownerweymouth
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2:20pm Wed 1 Aug 12
guesthouseownerweymouth
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2:22pm Wed 1 Aug 12
dogboy1 wrote:dogboy1 - totally agree, we also went and had a fantastic time - my hubbie didnt fancy it but thoroughly enjoyed it. We are looking at what other tribute acts we fancy now!
In terms of the festival - I was offered free entry on Saturday whilst watching the battle for the winds, but declined to see the George Michael tribute. However went last night to the Motown tribute and it was fantastic. I know these are tribute acts but the quality of the music was fantastic and the atmosphere was great. I don't think a fiver is too much to pay for several hours of live music. Curiously the security were also the nicest I have ever met - all of them wishing us a good night on our way out! Also I used my bicycle so no worries re closed roads.
All I can say is get out there and have a look - as I regular whinger about Weymouth, I have been pleasantly surprised at how much I have enjoyed the festivities.
Karen1972
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2:45pm Wed 1 Aug 12
guesthouseownerweymoYes i agree, I was looking at a number of options, such as putting 5 in 6 + B&B's as much better to offer them a local great seaside service from locals B&B. I used both booking.com and contacted a number of B&B's locally. I would have preferred to stay in weymouth as I will be paying out for 38 people to taxi in and out of Wareham at £30 each way is very expensive. Everytime we have visitors at work I would always book a B&B over a hotel and managed to book 22 rooms over a number of B&B's last year for a conference. It is a shame I had to pay such a huge deposit otherwise it would have been cost effective to cancel the hotel and move them into Weymout.
uth wrote:
@karen1972, you would probably be hard pressed to find too many places that would have vacancies that could take 38 people, we run a B&B 100 yards from sea front and we certainly didnt have a call to see if we could take 10 of them, which we certainly would have at our normal rates! I do get annoyed when statements are made like that, without all the options being explored. Surely a blanket email to all B&B's would have sorted the problem, why on earth would they stay miles away when we have rooms as we speak! I also know many other B&B's that have vacancies in fact most of them, and only a few are charging higher prices. I spoke to the organiser of the bayside festival yesterday who said the same as you, but when enquiring further, his friends only went on the booking sites, not direct to B&B's. We do not advertise on these and nor do many B&B's because of the high commision charges!
Mark Probin
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3:20pm Wed 1 Aug 12
guesthouseownerweymoHave you tried using 'google adwords' to create your own online advert.
uth wrote:
@manonthesilvermount
ain, we are charging our usual rate of £70 per night double room, we are 100 yards from th sea front and are 14th on trip advisor - we do not advertise on laterooms etc so perhaps your friends only looked on those sites. There are many B&B's that are not charging those sort of rates, it is only the minority ruining it for us all, please dont tar us all with the same brush and make assumptions based on a few. The ones who have charged that amount are probably on those booking sites who I believe are also encouraging them to put up their rates!
Easy to set up, and you can claim a £50 voucher.
http://bit.ly/N1J7hf
rebeccachurchill
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3:24pm Wed 1 Aug 12
vickg1250
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4:17pm Wed 1 Aug 12
guesthouseownerweymouth
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4:22pm Wed 1 Aug 12
rebeccachurchill
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4:36pm Wed 1 Aug 12
guesthouseownerweymoBut do you not think they should have had a plan in place for if this happened? Any good events organiser would have had one.
uth wrote:
so sorry this has happened to you however they cannot really be blamed, they are having to react to the demand for the tickets etc. They were told by LOCOG that they should expect an audience of around 9000 and this will not now materialise
Yellowcave
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6:18pm Wed 1 Aug 12
If I remember correctly, just removing the free car parking years ago seriously affected the attendances at the pavilion events. This bayside arena is "miles" from any car parking or public transport. In a rural area this will affect attendances. If one was in a city with underground and overground covering all areas the effect would not be so noticeable, but these city people have no idea how we in the sticks struggle to survive.
Mojomarty
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8:19pm Wed 1 Aug 12
Its crazy, we have been given one of the greatest opertunities that this little seaside town could have ever been givven and the wonderful wingers of Weymouth have done nothing but moan about it every step of they way. Yes somethings could have been done differently but it hasnt. With the Echo putting up such negative headlines every other day about the changes that have happened its no wonder people looking to visit the town to enjoy the olympic spirit have stayed away. One quick google search and no end of bad publicity written by people who should be supporting this historic event is right there to discourage people from visiting.
That being said, I was in town on Tuesday night and I have never seen the town look so alive on a weekday night, laser displays, lots of people enjoying the music on the peir, live comedian at the pavilion, live bands in the busy seafront pubs. It was really great to see.
So lets just enjoy what we have been given and work together to make the most of our town.
Merrittpr
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8:45pm Wed 1 Aug 12
JamesYoung
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11:46am Thu 2 Aug 12
Mojomarty wrote:Blaming the moaners is missing the point. If you search this website you will find posts listing academic papers that stated that the so called benefits of hosting the Olympics can be illusory. People didn't come because people were never going to come. It is the so called positive spin that has done the damage - ie, convinced the tourists who would have come to stay away. I believe that Weymouth will lose money for the next few years now, because many people who always come to Weymouth will have found a new spot that they like. Experience from every other Olympic sailing venue has been pretty much the same. Go and read about it.
Moaning...what Weymouth does best.
Its crazy, we have been given one of the greatest opertunities that this little seaside town could have ever been givven and the wonderful wingers of Weymouth have done nothing but moan about it every step of they way. Yes somethings could have been done differently but it hasnt. With the Echo putting up such negative headlines every other day about the changes that have happened its no wonder people looking to visit the town to enjoy the olympic spirit have stayed away. One quick google search and no end of bad publicity written by people who should be supporting this historic event is right there to discourage people from visiting.
That being said, I was in town on Tuesday night and I have never seen the town look so alive on a weekday night, laser displays, lots of people enjoying the music on the peir, live comedian at the pavilion, live bands in the busy seafront pubs. It was really great to see.
So lets just enjoy what we have been given and work together to make the most of our town.
rjimmer
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4:19pm Thu 2 Aug 12
satisfecho
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8:12am Fri 3 Aug 12
JamesYoung wrote:Rubbish.
Mojomarty wrote:Blaming the moaners is missing the point. If you search this website you will find posts listing academic papers that stated that the so called benefits of hosting the Olympics can be illusory. People didn't come because people were never going to come. It is the so called positive spin that has done the damage - ie, convinced the tourists who would have come to stay away. I believe that Weymouth will lose money for the next few years now, because many people who always come to Weymouth will have found a new spot that they like. Experience from every other Olympic sailing venue has been pretty much the same. Go and read about it.
Moaning...what Weymouth does best.
Its crazy, we have been given one of the greatest opertunities that this little seaside town could have ever been givven and the wonderful wingers of Weymouth have done nothing but moan about it every step of they way. Yes somethings could have been done differently but it hasnt. With the Echo putting up such negative headlines every other day about the changes that have happened its no wonder people looking to visit the town to enjoy the olympic spirit have stayed away. One quick google search and no end of bad publicity written by people who should be supporting this historic event is right there to discourage people from visiting.
That being said, I was in town on Tuesday night and I have never seen the town look so alive on a weekday night, laser displays, lots of people enjoying the music on the peir, live comedian at the pavilion, live bands in the busy seafront pubs. It was really great to see.
So lets just enjoy what we have been given and work together to make the most of our town.
You and your 'academic papers' studies only appeared recently.
Long term, over the last few years the ECHO along with posters to these replies have done nothing but knock this town.
Jello Biafra
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10:24am Fri 3 Aug 12
EtaoinShrdlu
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12:06am Sun 5 Aug 12
terra firma says...
11:42am Tue 31 Jul 12
In Monday's televised events I counted a handful of people other than in the car parks at the Smugglers and Riviera!
We in Wimborne have had £8m invested in the carbuncle which once was a roundabout at Canford Bottom - and months of noisy night works - to speed the non-existent traffic. Added to that, the Merley junction is closed to traffic accessing or leaving the A31 when there is time to put on a procession between vehicles using it.
With all the hooey about security, dare I suggest that police numbers could be drastically reduced to save on £££££££ overtime now that there are no people to deal with?