Eddie Mitchell defies planning officers as work starts on Cherries' car park (From Thisisdorset)
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Eddie Mitchell defies planning officers as work starts on Cherries' car park
9:29am Wednesday 20th June 2012 in News By Steven Smith
PLANS: AFC Bournemouth chairman Eddie Mitchell in the gravel car park next to the stadium at Kings Park in Bournemouth. Picture: Corin Messer
AFC Bournemouth chairman Eddie Mitchell has started work on resurfacing the car, coach and lorry park at Dean Court today, despite not having permission to do so.
On Monday, planning chiefs decided to defer the application for the resurfacing and laying out of the car park, asking for clarification on the number of car park spaces there would be and for more details on traffic management.
It was called into the Planning Board by ward councillor Nick King, who raised worries over public access to public green space, disruption to views across the park and the impact on road safety and parking amenities.
But, speaking to the Daily Echo yesterday, Cherries boss Mr Mitchell said he planned to begin work first thing this morning regardless – risking potential enforcement action – as waiting a month would see the offer of £600,000 funding from the club withdrawn.
The club says the work will stop flooding, fly tipping and use of the car park by drivers doing stunts.
Mr Mitchell said: “It’s an addition to the application for the lorry park to be resurfaced and for some unknown reason the council asked us to make an application to remove the bund that’s causing the car park to flood.
“That is part of the resurfacing of the car park and makes more land available for parking. We assumed that was OK and we planned to start work.
“I have to presume it’s the case and we can get on and start resurfacing it.
“That’s what we’re going to do; we do not want to cancel.
“The biggest concern to me is funding was made available to start now and if it’s deferred for a month that’s going to be withdrawn.”
The application had been recommended for approval, with planning officers saying it would bring a formal parking layout and new landscaped areas.
Cllr David Kelsey, Planning Board chairman, said members wanted more details on how match day parking would be accommodated.
“We are concerned that a loss of car park spaces in the area would lead to parking on local roads during match days,” he said.
“This could inconvenience King’s Park and Littledown residents and this was the basis of our decision to defer.
“We need clarity from the club on what agreements they will put in place to provide parking while their works take place,” the councillor added.
Comments(105)
The Renegade Master
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9:38am Wed 20 Jun 12
afcb-mark
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9:42am Wed 20 Jun 12
harrythered
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9:48am Wed 20 Jun 12
*Fiona*
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9:48am Wed 20 Jun 12
His narcissism and sense of entitlement is out of control.
He has Roman Emperor Syndrome.
Theres something not right about him and he shouldnt be in a leadership position.
He is a liability to the football club.
harrythered
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9:49am Wed 20 Jun 12
Lord Spring wrote:I think you should look up the definition of damage, if you dropped a bomb on the filthy dust bowl you would improve it.
Criminal damage. it is not his property
wallydown
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9:57am Wed 20 Jun 12
If they challenge him in court and they lose its us the tax payers in this town that will pay the costs
excellent strategy
CourtOffside
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10:03am Wed 20 Jun 12
Maybe doing it outside the football season? Like.. now? Duh.
harrythered
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10:15am Wed 20 Jun 12
CourtOffside wrote:Exactly, how thick are these people. get the job done now before the season starts. This is a win - win project for everyone, how dumb is this Council?
“We need clarity from the club on what agreements they will put in place to provide parking while their works take place,”
Maybe doing it outside the football season? Like.. now? Duh.
andyjb10
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10:20am Wed 20 Jun 12
The place is a dump and an embarrassment to the council and club.
This only improves the park for all visitors.
pete woodley
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10:32am Wed 20 Jun 12
BourneRed
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10:32am Wed 20 Jun 12
The scheme is a good one for local residents, yes there might be a loss of some spaces, but improvements in the infrastructure of the area will improve congestion in the area as the car park will no longer be a free for all.
The whole area will look a lot nicer and to put it bluntly, the positives outweigh the negatives, but get on with it before the season starts to limit the inconvenience on local residents.
The delay doesn't help matters, but neither does getting on with it regardless.
Bob49
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10:41am Wed 20 Jun 12
or you ?
Why is this cost being put through the books of the football club ?
Why if the club is 'happy' to pay has it now put this sudden dealine on things ?
What is really being lined up for this site that will need daily use of the car park ?
pete woodley
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10:44am Wed 20 Jun 12
Lord Spring wrote:Thats very very true.
Criminal damage. it is not his property
mysticalshoelace
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10:51am Wed 20 Jun 12
pauls55
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10:58am Wed 20 Jun 12
marketboy
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11:01am Wed 20 Jun 12
The Renegade Master wrote:No it doesn't,this happens all the the time with planning applications.This is a 'spoiling' tactic by the local Councillor to delay EM and the CLUBS ambition. Go ahead Eddie and ruffle some feathers.
Although I think the resurfacing work is a good idea, Mitchell's decision to go ahead with the work without permission shows the arrogance of the man and his utter contempt of authority.
harrythered
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11:13am Wed 20 Jun 12
Bob49 wrote:I would imagine the deadline is because it is the close season and if the work is completed before the end of July it will cause less inconvenience to residents with supporters having to park elsewhere. As for why the club is backing it and what plans are there - well you don't need a crystal ball to see AFCB plans for a 4th stand and new hotel - they were on public display a couple of weeks ago, and I think you will find the Council still harbour plans for an ice rink as well. Answered your questions I hope......
"This is a win - win project for everyone, how dumb is this Council?”
or you ?
Why is this cost being put through the books of the football club ?
Why if the club is 'happy' to pay has it now put this sudden dealine on things ?
What is really being lined up for this site that will need daily use of the car park ?
harrythered
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11:15am Wed 20 Jun 12
mysticalshoelace wrote:I think you will find the Council will still own the land and the only benefit to the club is match day parking revenue in return for the club fronting the cost of much needed improvement. Perhaps you would rather pay a little extra Council Tax and get the Council to improve it.
I object to the insidious takeover of Kings Park by AFC Bournemouth aka Eddie Mitchell, he won't be content until he's got his greedy, greasy little paws on every patch.
Pierre France
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11:21am Wed 20 Jun 12
muscliffman
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11:25am Wed 20 Jun 12
I am inclined to applaud this victory of common sense over protracted and questionable public sector bureaucracy - there is a very sound case to improve this area.
However this land belongs (in trust) to the public and rightly or wrongly our representatives have not yet given the go ahead.
There is also an undeniable irony in finding someone tarmacing King's Park without permission given the Parks 'traveller' occupation histoy! (Are they doing it?).
However I suspect Mr Mitchell is going to find himself in serious trouble over this.
wallydown
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11:25am Wed 20 Jun 12
wallydown
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11:28am Wed 20 Jun 12
Pierre France wrote:The reason for planning appeals is to stop councils making it personal
What's the rush? Why is there a self-imposed deadline of the funding not being available after the end of the month? I'm sure the council would have given the green flag to go ahead with the re-surfacing once the red tape had been cut. Now Mitchell has made an enemy out of the council, I'm sure they will do everything they can not to give permission for the proposed 4th stand and hotel.
Bob49
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11:34am Wed 20 Jun 12
harrythered wrote:The deadline does NOT talk of work commencing, but funding being withdrawn.
Bob49 wrote:I would imagine the deadline is because it is the close season and if the work is completed before the end of July it will cause less inconvenience to residents with supporters having to park elsewhere. As for why the club is backing it and what plans are there - well you don't need a crystal ball to see AFCB plans for a 4th stand and new hotel - they were on public display a couple of weeks ago, and I think you will find the Council still harbour plans for an ice rink as well. Answered your questions I hope......
"This is a win - win project for everyone, how dumb is this Council?”
or you ?
Why is this cost being put through the books of the football club ?
Why if the club is 'happy' to pay has it now put this sudden dealine on things ?
What is really being lined up for this site that will need daily use of the car park ?
There is already enough hard standing parking for the hotel and the fourth stand does not require hard standing. The work could easily be completed between games.
The council never 'harboured' plans for an ice rink. The original plans were so flawed it was obvious they were never intended to be developed, and were quickly forgotten once the required planning permission was given.
ps I suggest you wise up a bit harry.
pete woodley
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11:40am Wed 20 Jun 12
harrythered
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11:49am Wed 20 Jun 12
Bob49 wrote:Well if funding is likely to be withdrawn it would suggest to anyone with a brain cell that work would commence immediately upon permission being given to start. There is very little hard standing available for a hotel on a match day and in any event who would build a hotel and expect guests to endure the dust bowl outside the front door and window of your room, sure work could go on between games but isn't it better to get it over and done with in the close season? As for the ice rink - you need to wise up, the Council is still in talks with a major developer.
harrythered wrote:The deadline does NOT talk of work commencing, but funding being withdrawn.
Bob49 wrote:I would imagine the deadline is because it is the close season and if the work is completed before the end of July it will cause less inconvenience to residents with supporters having to park elsewhere. As for why the club is backing it and what plans are there - well you don't need a crystal ball to see AFCB plans for a 4th stand and new hotel - they were on public display a couple of weeks ago, and I think you will find the Council still harbour plans for an ice rink as well. Answered your questions I hope......
"This is a win - win project for everyone, how dumb is this Council?”
or you ?
Why is this cost being put through the books of the football club ?
Why if the club is 'happy' to pay has it now put this sudden dealine on things ?
What is really being lined up for this site that will need daily use of the car park ?
There is already enough hard standing parking for the hotel and the fourth stand does not require hard standing. The work could easily be completed between games.
The council never 'harboured' plans for an ice rink. The original plans were so flawed it was obvious they were never intended to be developed, and were quickly forgotten once the required planning permission was given.
ps I suggest you wise up a bit harry.
harrythered
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11:51am Wed 20 Jun 12
pete woodley wrote:where does it say that the club or EM is being given the land, it doesn't and that is because the Council will retain ownership just as with the training pitches.
Eddie already has them eating out of his hand,he is getting away with it and wants more and more of Kings Park.
*Fiona*
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11:55am Wed 20 Jun 12
He's getting some kind of perverse kick out of his blatant disregard of Bmth Councils authority-look at his smug facial expression.
Its like he's saying
'come and have a go if you think your hard enough'
mysticalshoelace
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11:57am Wed 20 Jun 12
harrythered wrote:I'd happily pay a bit more council tax to have Kings Park totally returned to green open space! The council and AFCB seem totally committed to covering it in concrete and sports pitches!
mysticalshoelace wrote:I think you will find the Council will still own the land and the only benefit to the club is match day parking revenue in return for the club fronting the cost of much needed improvement. Perhaps you would rather pay a little extra Council Tax and get the Council to improve it.
I object to the insidious takeover of Kings Park by AFC Bournemouth aka Eddie Mitchell, he won't be content until he's got his greedy, greasy little paws on every patch.
John T
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12:01pm Wed 20 Jun 12
*Fiona* wrote:By referring to Mitchell having Roman Emperor Syndrome, I assume you are likening him to Emperor Nero who fiddled while Rome burned after a fire ignited by himself to clear land for his own palatial ambitions.
This mans behaviour is beyond egotism. His narcissism and sense of entitlement is out of control. He has Roman Emperor Syndrome. Theres something not right about him and he shouldnt be in a leadership position. He is a liability to the football club.
Mitchell certainly knows how to fiddle and the rest, as they say, will soon be history. Nearly all the Roman Emperors got their comeuppance; and so in the not too distant future will the Seven Developments Empire.
This is probably the reason why Mitchell is wanting to rush through the 'supposed' funding.
Like with the Surf Greef, it will be the Council taxpayer who ultimately picks up the bill for this skullduggery.
harrythered
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12:02pm Wed 20 Jun 12
harrythered
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12:05pm Wed 20 Jun 12
mysticalshoelace wrote:I don't know how old you are but sports pitches have been there for well over over 50 years, and the car park in question used to be a rubbish tip and was filled with waste, any way I thought the Park was given to the people of bournemouth for enjoyment and recreation.”
harrythered wrote:I'd happily pay a bit more council tax to have Kings Park totally returned to green open space! The council and AFCB seem totally committed to covering it in concrete and sports pitches!
mysticalshoelace wrote:I think you will find the Council will still own the land and the only benefit to the club is match day parking revenue in return for the club fronting the cost of much needed improvement. Perhaps you would rather pay a little extra Council Tax and get the Council to improve it.
I object to the insidious takeover of Kings Park by AFC Bournemouth aka Eddie Mitchell, he won't be content until he's got his greedy, greasy little paws on every patch.
John T
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12:10pm Wed 20 Jun 12
*Fiona* wrote:Same old, same old...Mitchell, not Messer, that is.
He's unprofessional. He's getting some kind of perverse kick out of his blatant disregard of Bmth Councils authority-look at his smug facial expression. Its like he's saying 'come and have a go if you think your hard enough'
What's with the shades, Eddie?
Will the true Edmund Mitchell step forward?
Freddie frog
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12:15pm Wed 20 Jun 12
mysticalshoelace
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12:22pm Wed 20 Jun 12
harrythered wrote:My point is that there's not much park left in Kings Park and each year it shrinks a little bit more. There really isn't the need for so many athletics/football/a
mysticalshoelace wrote:I don't know how old you are but sports pitches have been there for well over over 50 years, and the car park in question used to be a rubbish tip and was filled with waste, any way I thought the Park was given to the people of bournemouth for enjoyment and recreation.”
harrythered wrote:I'd happily pay a bit more council tax to have Kings Park totally returned to green open space! The council and AFCB seem totally committed to covering it in concrete and sports pitches!
mysticalshoelace wrote:I think you will find the Council will still own the land and the only benefit to the club is match day parking revenue in return for the club fronting the cost of much needed improvement. Perhaps you would rather pay a little extra Council Tax and get the Council to improve it.
I object to the insidious takeover of Kings Park by AFC Bournemouth aka Eddie Mitchell, he won't be content until he's got his greedy, greasy little paws on every patch.
ny other type of sport pitches and a failing football club which shouldn't be there in the first place.
Pierre France
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12:32pm Wed 20 Jun 12
*Fiona* wrote:The lady does protest too much. Wasn't Mitchell hard enough for you, Fiona?
He's unprofessional.
He's getting some kind of perverse kick out of his blatant disregard of Bmth Councils authority-look at his smug facial expression.
Its like he's saying
'come and have a go if you think your hard enough'
ben131297
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12:34pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Redgolfer00
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12:39pm Wed 20 Jun 12
harrythered wrote:Send Mitchell to Australia, who the HELL does he think he is, company must be hard up so hit him with a large fine or is it one rule for him another for every one else and the Aussie's would not let him in.
Go for it Eddie, theres nothing wrong with a bit of contempt for red tape and petty minded Council bureaucracy. The Council must hate being shown how petty and obstructive they are.
Redgolfer00
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12:45pm Wed 20 Jun 12
harrythered wrote:Not for 125 years as the lease states.
pete woodley wrote:where does it say that the club or EM is being given the land, it doesn't and that is because the Council will retain ownership just as with the training pitches.
Eddie already has them eating out of his hand,he is getting away with it and wants more and more of Kings Park.
darcyknows
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12:51pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Bob49 wrote:a HOTEL ?.
"This is a win - win project for everyone, how dumb is this Council?”
or you ?
Why is this cost being put through the books of the football club ?
Why if the club is 'happy' to pay has it now put this sudden dealine on things ?
What is really being lined up for this site that will need daily use of the car park ?
Roband65
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12:56pm Wed 20 Jun 12
carr58
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1:03pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Afcbpete
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1:11pm Wed 20 Jun 12
alasdair1967
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1:24pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Bob49
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1:25pm Wed 20 Jun 12
harrythered wrote:dear me
Bob49 wrote:Well if funding is likely to be withdrawn it would suggest to anyone with a brain cell that work would commence immediately upon permission being given to start. There is very little hard standing available for a hotel on a match day and in any event who would build a hotel and expect guests to endure the dust bowl outside the front door and window of your room, sure work could go on between games but isn't it better to get it over and done with in the close season? As for the ice rink - you need to wise up, the Council is still in talks with a major developer.
harrythered wrote:The deadline does NOT talk of work commencing, but funding being withdrawn.
Bob49 wrote:I would imagine the deadline is because it is the close season and if the work is completed before the end of July it will cause less inconvenience to residents with supporters having to park elsewhere. As for why the club is backing it and what plans are there - well you don't need a crystal ball to see AFCB plans for a 4th stand and new hotel - they were on public display a couple of weeks ago, and I think you will find the Council still harbour plans for an ice rink as well. Answered your questions I hope......
"This is a win - win project for everyone, how dumb is this Council?”
or you ?
Why is this cost being put through the books of the football club ?
Why if the club is 'happy' to pay has it now put this sudden dealine on things ?
What is really being lined up for this site that will need daily use of the car park ?
There is already enough hard standing parking for the hotel and the fourth stand does not require hard standing. The work could easily be completed between games.
The council never 'harboured' plans for an ice rink. The original plans were so flawed it was obvious they were never intended to be developed, and were quickly forgotten once the required planning permission was given.
ps I suggest you wise up a bit harry.
I'm not sure what the first bit of mumbo jumbo is supposed to mean, but it ceetainly doesn't answer the point ie why is the funding being theatened to be with drawn.
Surely if this is such ' a good thing' as the not to bright seem to have deluded themselves about then it should be pursued vigorously, not treated in this infantile manner.
Any necessary car park work can be done WHEN the hotel is built. Something that will cause far more disruption and would be best built BEFORE resurfacing the car park.
As to the twaddle about "the Council is still in talks with a major developer" then you are even more deluded than your earlier pots would suggest. Not deluded in the sense that you think such nonsense is true, but that you think that we would belief such rubbish.
A club that has struggled with solvency is hardly the best club to be spending £600,000 on a carpark. So what is the REAL REASON for this 'land grab' .....
....... another part of the supposed regeneration of Boscombe !
simong
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1:31pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Bob49
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1:38pm Wed 20 Jun 12
simong wrote:And you wonder why Nigerian fraudsters keep going
Well done Eddie Mitchell. If we rely upon the local council or the jobsworth's that 'work' there nothing would ever get done - except of course when one of the fools comes up with an idea like the IMAX or surf reef.
They would have a field day on here
Ferndown Steve
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1:43pm Wed 20 Jun 12
The details/discussions can continue on site, as works progress !
alasdair1967
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1:46pm Wed 20 Jun 12
psatlast
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1:46pm Wed 20 Jun 12
ElmerFudd
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1:58pm Wed 20 Jun 12
So, the Council want to d**k around wasting committee time and money (sorry, that's actually TAXPAYERS time and money) deciding what will most probably be approved anyway.
Now, if he was putting up a building without permission, fair enough, tear it down. But this is tidying up an exisiting naff parking facility into a more respectable parking facility. No change of use, no permanancy about it (tarmac can be taken up again), and everyone goes hell for leather at him, which reading some of these comments seem to be mostly jealousy about his wealth, actual or otherwise.
Bmth BC's bunch of Planning Muppets need to get a life and worry about the real illegal planning and back-handers that go on!
pete woodley
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2:02pm Wed 20 Jun 12
ASM
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2:36pm Wed 20 Jun 12
John T
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2:45pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Afcbpete wrote:You ask 'WHO is paying for it in the long run?'
I can only go back to my one big concern regarding all these buiding works that Mitchell wants to do, WHO is paying for it in the long run. Will it go down as loans against the football club, which he will be getting 6% interest on, plus it's work for his workforce, or is he really that concerned. I'm not convinced it's the latter sadly and this is the major concern that many AFCB supportes have. That said, the areas being re-vamped are and always have been an absolute disgrace, so if it's not to the financial detriment of the football club, then I'm all for it. I am however, VERY, very suspicious!!!
Ultimately, it will be a combination of the national and local Council taxpayers, when Mitchell goes bust again. He also has a record of ignoring planning regulations, which then also costs the taxpayer more in sorting out disputes.
Prepare yourselves for Pieces of 8 Developments!
oneshortleg
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2:50pm Wed 20 Jun 12
BmthNewshound
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2:55pm Wed 20 Jun 12
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This decision isn't about planning its about personality. If it was just have been AFC Bournemouth there wouldn't have been an issue. But as always in Bournemouth its about whether your face fits.
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It never ceases to amaze me how every successful businessman in Bournemouth is villified by the council, the Echo and certain regular contributors to these comments (Hi, **Fiona** !).
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harrythered
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2:57pm Wed 20 Jun 12
mysticalshoelace wrote:I think you will find the football club has been there for getting on for a century and is actually on land bequeathed it by the Cooper Dean Estate.
harrythered wrote:My point is that there's not much park left in Kings Park and each year it shrinks a little bit more. There really isn't the need for so many athletics/football/a
mysticalshoelace wrote:I don't know how old you are but sports pitches have been there for well over over 50 years, and the car park in question used to be a rubbish tip and was filled with waste, any way I thought the Park was given to the people of bournemouth for enjoyment and recreation.”
harrythered wrote:I'd happily pay a bit more council tax to have Kings Park totally returned to green open space! The council and AFCB seem totally committed to covering it in concrete and sports pitches!
mysticalshoelace wrote:I think you will find the Council will still own the land and the only benefit to the club is match day parking revenue in return for the club fronting the cost of much needed improvement. Perhaps you would rather pay a little extra Council Tax and get the Council to improve it.
I object to the insidious takeover of Kings Park by AFC Bournemouth aka Eddie Mitchell, he won't be content until he's got his greedy, greasy little paws on every patch.
ny other type of sport pitches and a failing football club which shouldn't be there in the first place.
CourtOffside
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3:07pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Roband65 wrote:The other car park work was undertaken by M A Hart. Not any of Mitchell's companies. He doesn't have the groundwork skills in house.
Lets be honest he has to find some work for his lads now seven and gee have hit rock bottom !
EGHH
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3:25pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Talkingheadera
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3:28pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Freddie frog wrote:It's called drainage thicko
You hit the nail on the head 'harrythered' the 'Park' is for All the people of Bournemouth not just AFC Bournemouth Fans! Flooding was mentioned in the article, where exactly does EM think the water will go when the whole of the area has a surface of black tar? How many Parks do you know that have such large car parks for 'park users' maybe these were the reasons for deferring the decision. Not some cllrs whim as some have suggested.
harrythered
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3:37pm Wed 20 Jun 12
EGHH wrote:No lets hope he gets permission to improve this desolate windblown wasteland that has been neglected by the Council for decades.
Lets hope he gets prosecuted and the car park ripped up at his expense.
Square Old Codger
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3:56pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Talkingheadera wrote:I would remind you that the area concerned is the lorry park for Bournemouth and is a pot holed mess and is only used by cars when there is either a match at Dean Court or an Athletics meeting. No buildings are to be ererected and all the proposed work can do is to improve the area for the users of the car park. Quite why an isolated ,idiotic, Councillor found to complain about isn't understandable, none of the residents complained ( they have common sense) , how can it spoil the view to give the lorry park a proper surface, it's not using any more of the Park than it already does and he has no case. Just the action of an unecessary "joobsworth" with nothing better to do with his time Time we merged with Poole and cut the number of Councillors and Officials by at least 50%. Having said that, Mitchell is a fool to proceed without permission and it could cost him dear - it wont be forgotten either, should he ever come to develop the South End. The Law may be an ****, but it should be obeyed.
Freddie frog wrote: You hit the nail on the head 'harrythered' the 'Park' is for All the people of Bournemouth not just AFC Bournemouth Fans! Flooding was mentioned in the article, where exactly does EM think the water will go when the whole of the area has a surface of black tar? How many Parks do you know that have such large car parks for 'park users' maybe these were the reasons for deferring the decision. Not some cllrs whim as some have suggested.It's called drainage thicko
lenton52
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4:00pm Wed 20 Jun 12
The land up at Kings park has been a eyesaw for years and applaud Mr Mitchel in his decision to tidy it up against the wishes of incumbent Bournemouth council.
Maybe King's not being straight with us and wants these pieces of scrub land to exist in the area so he can rid himself of garden waste.
Well that's the best explanation i can come up with!!
Bmthdad
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4:12pm Wed 20 Jun 12
pete woodley wrote:Just like the Council did running roughshod over the law regarding the community building in Boscombe you mean?
If eddie gets away with startng early,the council will not be able to stop others,he is showing complete contempt for the laws.
This is a minor breach as the application has already been recommended for approval and the reassurances could have been requested by committee long ago. This is nothing more than a Cllr trying to get one over on Mr Mitchell, (who I am not a fan of by the way).
Redgolfer00
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4:18pm Wed 20 Jun 12
harrythered wrote:And sold by the football club, as it could not afford to be run properly, who would trust Mitchell, only the blind fools that come on here in support of him.
mysticalshoelace wrote:I think you will find the football club has been there for getting on for a century and is actually on land bequeathed it by the Cooper Dean Estate.
harrythered wrote:My point is that there's not much park left in Kings Park and each year it shrinks a little bit more. There really isn't the need for so many athletics/football/a
mysticalshoelace wrote:I don't know how old you are but sports pitches have been there for well over over 50 years, and the car park in question used to be a rubbish tip and was filled with waste, any way I thought the Park was given to the people of bournemouth for enjoyment and recreation.”
harrythered wrote:I'd happily pay a bit more council tax to have Kings Park totally returned to green open space! The council and AFCB seem totally committed to covering it in concrete and sports pitches!
mysticalshoelace wrote:I think you will find the Council will still own the land and the only benefit to the club is match day parking revenue in return for the club fronting the cost of much needed improvement. Perhaps you would rather pay a little extra Council Tax and get the Council to improve it.
I object to the insidious takeover of Kings Park by AFC Bournemouth aka Eddie Mitchell, he won't be content until he's got his greedy, greasy little paws on every patch.
ny other type of sport pitches and a failing football club which shouldn't be there in the first place.
Bmthdad
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4:21pm Wed 20 Jun 12
ElmerFudd wrote:If you have evidence of this huge and ongoing "planning process" fraud, I presume you will be taking it straight to the Police?
Bob49 wrote:quote: "oh dear are you really that daft ?"
"and worry about the real illegal planning and back-handers that go on!"
oh dear
are you really that daft ?
You have not questioned why a club the size of Bournemouth (with it's continued debt problems) is spending £600,000 on tarmacing a car park that it DOESN'T even own.
For what ?
To stop a few boy racers, to fill in some pot holes ?
Anyone with an IQ into double figures might suggest that 'IF' a new stand and hotel is being built then would it not be far better to tarmac the carpark after all the heavy contractors vehicles have trundled backwards and forwards over it.
The whole scam stinks, and that smell only grows stronger with this sudden guff about funding being withdrawn so it has to start immediately.
quote: "Anyone with an IQ into double figures might suggest that 'IF' a..."
Well, quite right my IQ isn't in double fugures, BUT it's in triple figures... 159 actually, one of the highest in the country, oh, and I attained two BSc's (one with Honours), a Masters and a PhD, so please don't make childish sweeping assumptions designed to score cheap points about someone who you don't even know.
So, let's see you apologise and admit that "daft" doesn't even come into it.
And if you refuse to believe that half the planning process isn't based on back-handers and favours, then your really are living in fantasy laa-laa land.
QED
If you have no evidence you should simply shut up, and stop making sweeping allegations.
Cmdr Kryll
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4:49pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Also Mitchell in the standard Echo arms folded pose
pete woodley
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5:02pm Wed 20 Jun 12
The Renegade Master
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5:10pm Wed 20 Jun 12
pete woodley wrote:I think everyone knows Mitchell is at AFCB to make money and to prop up his ailing property businesses. He is not a football man. However, if the ground returns to club ownership, the fourth stand and hotel gets built, the training pitches and car park are finished and the team get promoted, who cares if Mitchell & Demin then sell up for a tidy sum?
Bob 49,i dont often agree with you,but some people are really gullible over Mitchell.
Sir Roland Butter
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5:11pm Wed 20 Jun 12
mysticalshoelace wrote:Yes there is very little green space left in Kings park that doesn't have dog turd on it.........., sorry wrong thread!!
harrythered wrote:My point is that there's not much park left in Kings Park and each year it shrinks a little bit more. There really isn't the need for so many athletics/football/a ny other type of sport pitches and a failing football club which shouldn't be there in the first place.mysticalshoelace wrote:I don't know how old you are but sports pitches have been there for well over over 50 years, and the car park in question used to be a rubbish tip and was filled with waste, any way I thought the Park was given to the people of bournemouth for enjoyment and recreation.”harrythered wrote:I'd happily pay a bit more council tax to have Kings Park totally returned to green open space! The council and AFCB seem totally committed to covering it in concrete and sports pitches!mysticalshoelace wrote: I object to the insidious takeover of Kings Park by AFC Bournemouth aka Eddie Mitchell, he won't be content until he's got his greedy, greasy little paws on every patch.I think you will find the Council will still own the land and the only benefit to the club is match day parking revenue in return for the club fronting the cost of much needed improvement. Perhaps you would rather pay a little extra Council Tax and get the Council to improve it.
Afcblees
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5:23pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Afcblees
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5:24pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Bob49
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5:30pm Wed 20 Jun 12
So harry, here we are, as previously posted -
"Why is this cost being put through the books of the football club ?
Why if the club is 'happy' to pay has it now put this sudden deadline on things ?"
Those are mine and there are numerous more from other posters
And to Renegade Master, a really odd one who simply makes things up to reply to - perhaps he could point out to us all where I said anything in this thread about -
"corruption in the planning department?"
matt68
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6:13pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Mr N James wrote:thanks then
I've read alot about the guy in this fine paper. he comes across a total DI*K HEAD. and any body who supports this guy is also a DI*K HEAD ,Have a nice day all
alasdair1967
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6:21pm Wed 20 Jun 12
here we go
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username is already in use
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6:49pm Wed 20 Jun 12
B'hamC'ham
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6:54pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Or maybe that's just those who've visited the stadium.
So maybe not our dearly beloved councillors?
hugh1
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7:27pm Wed 20 Jun 12
A new car park for free, yes please. If the words surf reef could be linked with car park the council would gladly rush to pay!
ashleycross
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7:53pm Wed 20 Jun 12
*Fiona*
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7:56pm Wed 20 Jun 12
John T wrote:Roman Emperor Syndrome-its mainly found in men who have very severe control issues.
*Fiona* wrote:By referring to Mitchell having Roman Emperor Syndrome, I assume you are likening him to Emperor Nero who fiddled while Rome burned after a fire ignited by himself to clear land for his own palatial ambitions.
This mans behaviour is beyond egotism. His narcissism and sense of entitlement is out of control. He has Roman Emperor Syndrome. Theres something not right about him and he shouldnt be in a leadership position. He is a liability to the football club.
Mitchell certainly knows how to fiddle and the rest, as they say, will soon be history. Nearly all the Roman Emperors got their comeuppance; and so in the not too distant future will the Seven Developments Empire.
This is probably the reason why Mitchell is wanting to rush through the 'supposed' funding.
Like with the Surf Greef, it will be the Council taxpayer who ultimately picks up the bill for this skullduggery.
Its similar to Little Man Syndrome.
sea poole
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8:00pm Wed 20 Jun 12
The Renegade Master
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8:01pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Bob49 wrote:Bob49 says: "...perhaps he (The Renegade Master) could point out to us all where I said anything in this thread about - "corruption in the planning department?"
Oh dear, they are out in force today ... maybe it's the sunshine.
So harry, here we are, as previously posted -
"Why is this cost being put through the books of the football club ?
Why if the club is 'happy' to pay has it now put this sudden deadline on things ?"
Those are mine and there are numerous more from other posters
And to Renegade Master, a really odd one who simply makes things up to reply to - perhaps he could point out to us all where I said anything in this thread about -
"corruption in the planning department?"
Really Bob49? Here is your quote:
"And if you refuse to believe that half the planning process isn't based on back-handers and favours, then your really are living in fantasy laa-laa land."
Bob49, Echo forum internet troll caught lying yet again. Moron.
pete woodley
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8:09pm Wed 20 Jun 12
pete woodley
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8:12pm Wed 20 Jun 12
sea poole wrote:Its getting too complicated for me.i am going to sit this out.
ElmerFudd -Priceless! Brilliant piece of commentary! Can't wait to read Bob49's response -if he begins to understand the content of what you have posted!
ElmerFudd
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8:25pm Wed 20 Jun 12
Bob49 wrote:Oh dear, oh dear... it must be National 'Bob Proves Himself to be a Complete Twonk" Flag Day.
"As to your stupid ill-informed comment about back-hander allegations, I have raised six for investigation and, so far, five have been upheld."
dearie me
it must be All Idiots Day today as they are popping up like
Now I expect you can quote us all the names and dates to which you have raised these six "back-hander allegations". Maybe include how and when they were upheld ... and by who,
Perhaps whilst you are at it you could point out to us all what comment I made about "back-hander allegations". The time, or maybe the direct quote will do.
Just so others don't think that you are making things up as another chap on here does, quite frequently.
Oh, and your comment about "the deliberately placed typo" does seem rather an odd thing to be doing for someone who has (supposedly) "two BSc's (one with Honours), a Masters and a PhD" and an IQ of 159 (just a couple of points off the highest possible total of 161).
Anyway, I'm sure we are all looking forward to you naming those involved in your five upheld investigations so don't be too long in telling us.
So, by which ill-informed Wackypedia website did you try looking up the top quotient factor? 161 indeed! LMAO! Give me a break!
You are a real laugh, and proves that your reliance on poor information is reminiscent of an amoeba floating around looking for some mere fleck of interest in the pond in which you obviously thrive.
Kasparov, for example, has an IQ of 190 (29 points above your presumed 'limit'), and Ung-yong, the physicist, has a verified quotient of over 200, allegedly 210 at the time of measurement.
So, Mr Thicko (who's obviously a bit narked at anyone having a higher intelligence than himself), pray do tell how 200+ or the numerous recorded quotients of over 170, 180, etc., relate to your hypothesis of a maximum of 161?
As to the planning issues, please do go look them up on the Standards Board's archive, or read the minutes of the Standard's Commitee for BBC.
It really is VERY simple... but there again, 'simple' is obviously too difficult for you. Ah well, never mind.
One wonders how humans have evolved to be able to land men on the moon, whilst around us we still have examples, like Bob, of those who still sharpen sticks and grunt.
Trying to understand his 'logic' is a bit like trying to hold an intelligent conversation with a drawing pin.
Roband65
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darkipa
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ragj195
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11:20pm Wed 20 Jun 12
The whole area must be a health and safety hazard as three times they have tried to scooter across it (despite my warnings) only to hit an oversized stone resulting in the unavoidable catapult!
I would go the other way but the dogs keep looking through the fence at the training pitches wondering what's happened to their toilet. Hope they don't leave the gates open!
The Renegade Master
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8:29am Thu 21 Jun 12
Perhaps it's time they reviewed their policy and rid this site of people like Bob49 who insults everyone and talks utter tripe every time he comes on here.
bang on this then
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8:41am Thu 21 Jun 12
Mr Mitchell you are a great GENTLEMAN a credit to the town,
IGNORE THE TAD TROLL.
bicameral
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12:47pm Thu 21 Jun 12
bicameral
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ragj195
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bicameral wrote:Sure do.
Radj195 do you really live in Thistlebarrow Road?
bicameral
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1:11pm Thu 21 Jun 12
ragj195
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1:19pm Thu 21 Jun 12
bicameral wrote:Spooky! I won't say the number just in case some nutcase on here wants to pop over but I'm the guy with the pug and the boxer dogs.
well go outside now i will be there in 2 minutes to say hi
bicameral
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1:22pm Thu 21 Jun 12
CourtOffside
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1:56pm Thu 21 Jun 12
Is the work still going on, or did Eddie just send a couple of JCBs round to try and force the issue somewhat?
ragj195
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3:29pm Thu 21 Jun 12
CourtOffside wrote:They're removing the 4ft high dirt mound that runs between the car park and the training pitches as we type. Will probably find a few matresses while they're at it.
Anyway.
Is the work still going on, or did Eddie just send a couple of JCBs round to try and force the issue somewhat?
Sam Shepherd
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3:30pm Thu 21 Jun 12
The eagle-eyed among you will have noticed that I've removed several comments from this thread.
If you see similar problems developing on any of our stories, please don't wade in - use the report this post button to let us know and we can tackle the issue before it becomes a 30 comment long mud-slinger. Many thanks
bicameral
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3:37pm Thu 21 Jun 12
i am not sure where they will fling the mud to though? (Given the mud belongs to the park?)
ragj195
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3:53pm Thu 21 Jun 12
bicameral wrote:I think there is going to be a tarmc path running parallel to the car park where the mound is.
I think they are intending to remove the dirt mounds to stop the training pitches flooding.
i am not sure where they will fling the mud to though? (Given the mud belongs to the park?)
As for the mud, that was being loaded onto a lorry so it looks like it's being put into "storage".
ElmerFudd
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4:25pm Thu 21 Jun 12
Sam Shepherd wrote:oh Sam, you are a bit of a spoilsport. :)
Good afternoon all
The eagle-eyed among you will have noticed that I've removed several comments from this thread.
If you see similar problems developing on any of our stories, please don't wade in - use the report this post button to let us know and we can tackle the issue before it becomes a 30 comment long mud-slinger. Many thanks
However, maybe if the trolling was stopped in the first place, and the accusatory and unsubstantiated comments aimed at newcomers to the forum were monitored better, it wouldn't encourage to stand up for themselves and defend against their accusers.
Sam Shepherd
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5:03pm Thu 21 Jun 12
ElmerFudd wrote:Unfortunately, we're a pre-moderated site, so we can't monitor, I'm afraid. Instead we have to rely on people like you to tell us when it's happening instead of joining in ;)
Sam Shepherd wrote:oh Sam, you are a bit of a spoilsport. :)
Good afternoon all
The eagle-eyed among you will have noticed that I've removed several comments from this thread.
If you see similar problems developing on any of our stories, please don't wade in - use the report this post button to let us know and we can tackle the issue before it becomes a 30 comment long mud-slinger. Many thanks
However, maybe if the trolling was stopped in the first place, and the accusatory and unsubstantiated comments aimed at newcomers to the forum were monitored better, it wouldn't encourage to stand up for themselves and defend against their accusers.
*Fiona*
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10:26pm Thu 21 Jun 12
bang on this then wrote:Im not a troll bang on the money.
Its a good job Harry cant read these sad lavatorial comments from 11.29 .
Mr Mitchell you are a great GENTLEMAN a credit to the town,
IGNORE THE TAD TROLL.
But I admit I do tend to have very strong opinions on destructive narcissists because of the harm they do to others
We live in a dysfunctional screwed up world and I feel that by speaking out and speaking the truth,possibly raising conciousness by protesting against bad people/ toxic organizations etc
I might possibly be able to do some good in this universe.
Thanks
Lord Spring says...
9:35am Wed 20 Jun 12