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Cancer mum in battle to get sons at same school

UPSET: Michelle Amey with her sons Charlie  and George UPSET: Michelle Amey with her sons Charlie and George

A mum with cancer is pleading with education chiefs to allow her two young sons to attend the same school.

Michelle Amey, 35, can no longer drive after having brain surgery to remove a tumour and is battling with Dorset County Council to allow both Charlie, seven, and four-year-old George to attend Mudeford Infants School in Queens Road.

Michelle of Friars Cliff, Christchurch, has undergone surgery to remove tumours from her brain and adrenal gland in the last few weeks following the resurgence of the cancer she thought she had beaten.

She also had a kidney removed due to complications. Michelle said for the well-being of her sons she wants them in the same school to support one another. Husband Stuart works in Southampton and is unable to collect the boys himself.

But the education authority insists George must go to Somerford Primary School. Michelle said: “The situation has just been horrendous. It’s breaking my heart.”

The couple, who moved to a new house just over half a mile away two years ago, found out last spring George didn’t get a place at the school with his older brother.

She added: “I was shocked. They said it’s because he is a sibling out of catchment which comes quite far down the list in terms of their priorities.

“Stuart went to the appeals hearing and it was a split decision.

“And then George was offered a place at Somerford.

“I decided I was not going to put George in any school so he’s back at pre-school at Mudeford Wood Community Centre.”

Despite a place coming up at Mudeford Infants at the end of last year, the couple were again refused the position.

“The governors have been great and the head has been absolutely fantastic,” Michelle said.

“The boys know Mummy has got three things inside her and they know what’s going on.

“It has affected my eldest a bit more and it would be security for him to have his little brother at the same school.

“I just can’t cope with the journey between schools.” Michelle said:

“We just can’t get through to the council. “I think we are something like 260 feet outside the catchment area. The boundary is in the road next to us.”

Mudeford headteacher, Duncan Churchill, said: “We fully sympathise with the family.

“However, admissions are managed by the local education authority and they have to work within the law. It is a really unfortunate situation.”

'We have been very sympathetic'

JOHN Nash, Dorset County Council’s director for children’s services, said: “We are aware of this case and have worked very closely to support this family.

“The youngest child could not be offered a place at Mudeford Infant School as all the places were allocated in line with legal requirements.

“To admit another child would exceed the ‘class size of 30’ legislation.”

He confirmed an appeal was held where the details of the family circumstances were made clear to the appeal panel, but their opinion was to uphold the offer of a place at Somerford Primary School.

Mr Nash said: “We have been very sympathetic to this case and have gone beyond what is required to assist and support the family. We hope to find the best outcomes for them all.”

Local county councillor Alan Griffiths, said: “I would urge the school to support a change in their admissions policy.”

Comments(71)

Marcus James says...
12:11pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Why do officials hide behind "guidelines and rules", the same guidelines and rules that they are happy to break when it suits them such as waiting times for answers to appeals and enquiries etc
We cannot help all of the people all of the time but surely there need to be situations in which rules can be broken and in which the school and the governors etc can take a “view”

High Treason says...
12:39pm Tue 7 Feb 12

I can see the point of view from both sides. Yes they should be allowed to attend the same school but it leaves the director for children’s services in a difficult situation. If he agrees there will be loads of others using this case as a reason as to why their child should attend a certain school.

ekimnoslen says...
12:48pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Given that the lady cannot drive it seems sensible for the kids to be at the same school. The problem is "do it for 1 and you then have to do it for everybody". That's the problem with bending the rules. Next ridiculously hysterical headline in the Echo would read: "Mother Y horrifically traumatised when council refused her same treatment as mother X.

Lucy28 says...
12:51pm Tue 7 Feb 12

I do feel compassion for the mum corse I do it would be shocking if I didn't but I don't agree she should have the school place.

The infant class size regulations are guidelines they are legislation law, the admission authority whether that's the school or the council have no choice but to abide by it. The only recourse available would be the appeal panel who refused her appeal.

At the end of the day the council have in effect offer what she wants, her children to be able to attend the same school- its just not the school she wants and whilst I can understand why she wouldn't want to disrupt her older child but at the end of the day it isn't her catchment school and why should her child get a place over a in catchment or higher criteria school that's why the child wasn't offered a place earlier, you can't leapfrog over the waiting list.

Out of catchment with sibling attending isn't that far down the admission policy for the school - so I wonder whether either the school was over subscribed in catchment or whether the application was late.

The admission process is black and white and full of red tape, yes I agree but you can't have a system whereby the decision to offer a place is based upon peoples compassion because what may seem to be most important to one person may not be as important to another. That's why they have appeal panels to consider the grey areas and I would have personally thought that had it been their catchment school the appeal panel could have instructed the school to take the child.

I appreciate that my view won't be popular but hey ho

robsmith123 says...
1:27pm Tue 7 Feb 12

another non-story from the Echo. Is a shame as this paper used to report news.

cheese19 says...
1:31pm Tue 7 Feb 12

In response to Lucy28, where in the article does it say the council have offered them to go to the same school? From what I can see the eldest is at Mudeford and the youngest has been offered Somerford school, which if they live is Friars Cliff is even further out of catchment. The catchment school would be Highcliffe, so where is the logic of the Council to offer an alternative school out of catchment? Also IF they were offered Highcliffe, given that she is unable to drive how are the children meant to be at school on time every day when the schools are in different directions?
There should be a caveat in the rules where PARENTS health issues can be taken into consideration and not just childrens.
This is clearly a situation that will impact on the children enough already with the mother being ill, they NEED stablility at this time, not to be torn apart. I thought the government preached 'parental choice', but clearly not in all situations.

Cath Nuttall says...
1:52pm Tue 7 Feb 12

In these exceptional circumstances you would expect the authorities to bend the rules. At a time like this the family needs support and the boys would benefit greatly from being at the same school where they can derive comfort and support from each other.

Senseless bureaucracy overriding common sense and understanding!

Ceri16 says...
2:00pm Tue 7 Feb 12

This family are already going through so much- those little boys are living through a nightmare. Anyone with any humanity would see that they should be at the same school to support each other. These are exceptional circumstances and so there should be some leniency with the rules. The little boy should definitely be given a place.

*Fiona* says...
2:08pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Its unacceptable that Mrs Amey has been put in this position the stress this has caused is not good for her health and the public officials involved in this are a disgrace.

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Mr Nash said: “We have been very sympathetic to this case and have gone beyond what is required to assist and support the family. We hope to find the best outcomes for them all.”


Mr Nash feels they have "gone above and beyond what is required"

No sorry Mr Nash you have not.

Lucy28 says...
2:22pm Tue 7 Feb 12

cheese19 wrote:
In response to Lucy28, where in the article does it say the council have offered them to go to the same school? From what I can see the eldest is at Mudeford and the youngest has been offered Somerford school, which if they live is Friars Cliff is even further out of catchment. The catchment school would be Highcliffe, so where is the logic of the Council to offer an alternative school out of catchment? Also IF they were offered Highcliffe, given that she is unable to drive how are the children meant to be at school on time every day when the schools are in different directions?
There should be a caveat in the rules where PARENTS health issues can be taken into consideration and not just childrens.
This is clearly a situation that will impact on the children enough already with the mother being ill, they NEED stablility at this time, not to be torn apart. I thought the government preached 'parental choice', but clearly not in all situations.
Ok I misread it, but the article also doesn't say that there isn't places either

Still dispite that I stand by what I said I don't agree that when admission authorities allocate limited school places that they should be offered based upon the individual circumstances of the parent or the family. What maybe compelling reasons to you may not be for someone else.

The application allows you only to state a preference not a choice. Hopefully a place will become available for him soon.

Tracy01 says...
2:35pm Tue 7 Feb 12

How often do officials hide behind red tape! surely a child's welfare is as important as their education, sending them to different schools would not only preclude the sibling support that is so obviously needed, but also make support from the school much harder.
For the whole family's wellbeing at such a difficult time placing the two boys in the same school is imperative.

Lewis74 says...
2:36pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Anyone with an ounce of compassion would look carefully at the "rules" in these circumstances. There are so many situations all over the country where children out of catchment receive school places- often through choice rather than need. To compound the stress and anxiety this family are living with seems so unreasonable. Most decisions borne from a rule book can be reversed with the right amount of pressure and effort- I trust the decision makers here will take the necessary steps to keep these boys together.

Wintonian says...
3:08pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Unfortunately, that is the chance you take when you choose a non-catchment school for your child - there is no guarantee that younger ones will get in.

The family finds itself in a very unfortunate situation, but if this child had had the rules 'bent' for him, every child above him who was refused would have an almost automatic successful appeal because the published policy was not adhered to and the refused applicants had someone with lower priority admitted ahead of them.

Dorset Mitch says...
3:19pm Tue 7 Feb 12

If there isn't any space do you expect them to remove a child to make space?

uberbloke says...
3:44pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Right, so each day one of the children will be late being dropped off (in contravention of the law) and late being picked up (in contravention of the law) because this lady has no car because she has cancer...

So give it a year and we can look forward to the headline "Cancer mum in court for continually child truancy"

Just sort it out and give the child a place.

Alibabs says...
3:57pm Tue 7 Feb 12

My heart goes out to this brave mother who as well as battling cancer and the loss of a kidney also has the added stress to her and her family of dealing with what to the local authority is a petty matter but to her is a major one.

According to the text of the newspaper a place was available at Mudeford Primary but they were refused; this would appear to rubbish any claims of potential class size over 30 or any necessity to remove another child to make space.

I wish this Lady and her family all the best and hope for a favourable outcome.

portia6 says...
4:09pm Tue 7 Feb 12

What about home schooling then
its so hard when you can't drive.
Maybe this could be a short-term
solution until a place could be found
near their home?

portia6 says...
4:09pm Tue 7 Feb 12

What about home schooling then
its so hard when you can't drive.
Maybe this could be a short-term
solution until a place could be found
near their home?

Debboo says...
5:20pm Tue 7 Feb 12

My dad died when i was 10, and my brother and i were at different schools,my mum and the both of us just got on with it. Cant BOTH boys go to Somerford? Whats the big deal? Or is it that Mudeford is a preferential school and the family are using this poor woman's health in order to gain a sympathy vote? Surely, when any family with youngsters moves house these days one of the first things they consider is the school catchment area???

billm says...
5:36pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Could they both go to Somerford Primary school?

Cupcake1980 says...
6:04pm Tue 7 Feb 12

I understand that we live in a world full of red tape but at the same time surely we should be doing whatever we can to support someone like Michelle and her family and not add further stress to an already upsetting time. I am sure that if Michelle was fighting fit and able to drive then she wouldn't mind sending the boys to differant schools however she is not and she needs the help from her local authorities and now should be the time to do that. It makes me very sad at how narrow minded people can be but if the shoe was on the other foot would they feel the same!

afcb-mark says...
6:33pm Tue 7 Feb 12

How on earth is this poor woman who cannot drive due to her illness supposed to get 2 infants to two different schools at the same time and how is she supposed to collect them when they finish at the same time. Pathetic.

Secondly, why should the older child be uprooted from his friends and familiar surroundings and be sent to a new school. I think it sounds like these 2 little boys have already had quite a lot to deal with in their short lives so far.

If I was the mother I would refuse the place at Somerford and home school the little one until he is offered a place at Mudeford. Most of their time in reception is used for play so he won't be missing out or ruining his education.

Don't give in to them and don't budge until they give you and your sons what you deserve.

Arjay says...
6:34pm Tue 7 Feb 12

My reading is that both boys HAVE been offered a place at the same school? - just not the one their mum prefers.

Of course our hearts go out to a young mum who is suffering in this way, but I can see that setting a precendent for these (or any other)'special' circumstances could open the flood gates for appeals.
And as has already been stated, carrying out this mum's request would mean selecting - and moving - another child out of the school, to make room for this extra little boy.
Would you like to be the person responsible for a making that selection?
Both boys at Somerford seems the least worst option, in this case.....

tlittler says...
6:35pm Tue 7 Feb 12

As a father in Dorset I think it's a disgrace that some leniency isn't being shown to the "rules" here. I can't think of a single person who could complain about putting the younger sibling to the front of the queue. Put yourself in this situation

Debboo says...
6:44pm Tue 7 Feb 12

They were in the catchment area, then moved OUT of the catchment area, despte knowing exactly where the borderd are. It seems to me they made the decision themselves.

afcb-mark says...
6:51pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Debboo wrote:
They were in the catchment area, then moved OUT of the catchment area, despte knowing exactly where the borderd are. It seems to me they made the decision themselves.
All heart!!!!!!!!!!!

Debboo says...
6:58pm Tue 7 Feb 12

afcb-mark wrote:
Debboo wrote: They were in the catchment area, then moved OUT of the catchment area, despte knowing exactly where the borderd are. It seems to me they made the decision themselves.
All heart!!!!!!!!!!!
I DO feel sorry for them, it is a very heartbreaking, gut wrenching story, but you bend the rules for one, where does it stop?

Sallya says...
7:00pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Cath Nuttall wrote:
In these exceptional circumstances you would expect the authorities to bend the rules. At a time like this the family needs support and the boys would benefit greatly from being at the same school where they can derive comfort and support from each other. Senseless bureaucracy overriding common sense and understanding!
I agree with Cath. This poor lady does not need all this stress. She needs to focus on beating her cancer and be there for the 2 lovely boys not worrying about this.

Lucy28 says...
7:04pm Tue 7 Feb 12

I was just looking at google maps at the distance between mudeford infants and somerford primary- its less than half a mile 8-10 minute walk. It isnt like the council are offering a place the otherside of the county. What's also not mentioned on here is the fact that the older child will be changing schools shortly as well being that at 7 he is most likely in the last year at this school

cheese19 says...
7:07pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Arjay wrote:
My reading is that both boys HAVE been offered a place at the same school? - just not the one their mum prefers.

Of course our hearts go out to a young mum who is suffering in this way, but I can see that setting a precendent for these (or any other)'special' circumstances could open the flood gates for appeals.
And as has already been stated, carrying out this mum's request would mean selecting - and moving - another child out of the school, to make room for this extra little boy.
Would you like to be the person responsible for a making that selection?
Both boys at Somerford seems the least worst option, in this case.....
Again I refer to my question earlier on today, where in the article does it state that BOTH boys have been offered a place in the same school? It states that one is in Mudeford and the other was offered Somerford, which is FURTHER outside catchment area for Frairs Cliff.
It also states that a place DID come up in Mudeford school, so no other child would have to have been selected or moved to 'make room', there was room.
Personally I agree with afcb-mark on both of his comments, why should the older one be uprooted? Thus disrupting him from his friends, many of which I am sure the younger child knows as well, so they both then lose out. You end up making 2 little boys even more unhappy, instead of giving them one bit of happiness in what seems to be a difficult start to their lives. But then the people who make the decisions wouldnt have to deal with the upset children at home......whilst undergoing treatment for a terrible illness!!!!!!

afcb-mark says...
7:08pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Debboo wrote:
afcb-mark wrote:
Debboo wrote: They were in the catchment area, then moved OUT of the catchment area, despte knowing exactly where the borderd are. It seems to me they made the decision themselves.
All heart!!!!!!!!!!!
I DO feel sorry for them, it is a very heartbreaking, gut wrenching story, but you bend the rules for one, where does it stop?
You were 10 years old when you were at a different school to your brother, this little boy is 7 and far too young to just 'get on with it'. Why should he be torn away from his friends and a place he feels safe. Like I said, it seems like these 2 little boys have already had a pretty tough time, why inflict more misery onto either of them or their mother. She should not have to be worrying about this with what she has been through.

Lucy28 says...
7:19pm Tue 7 Feb 12

If a place came up and it wasn't offered to this family it meant there was a child on the waiting list above them.

It doesn't say both schools but it doesn't say there isn't places at both schools either. What difference would it make to the older child if his brother goes to a school within walking distance from his school. They aren't currently in the same place. If the older. child is 7 and the schools an infant school he is in his last year, next September the younger child's on his own anyway.

Debboo says...
7:42pm Tue 7 Feb 12

afcb-mark wrote:
Debboo wrote:
afcb-mark wrote:
Debboo wrote: They were in the catchment area, then moved OUT of the catchment area, despte knowing exactly where the borderd are. It seems to me they made the decision themselves.
All heart!!!!!!!!!!!
I DO feel sorry for them, it is a very heartbreaking, gut wrenching story, but you bend the rules for one, where does it stop?
You were 10 years old when you were at a different school to your brother, this little boy is 7 and far too young to just 'get on with it'. Why should he be torn away from his friends and a place he feels safe. Like I said, it seems like these 2 little boys have already had a pretty tough time, why inflict more misery onto either of them or their mother. She should not have to be worrying about this with what she has been through.
Um, my little brother was 7, so what's your point? Come on, the kids have probably got very little understanding of whats going on. And dont you think a parent being dead is slightly worse than just being ill? Now leave it alone will you?

ShuttleX says...
7:44pm Tue 7 Feb 12

robsmith123 wrote:
another non-story from the Echo. Is a shame as this paper used to report news.
Don't read it then.

ShuttleX says...
7:51pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Lewis74 wrote:
Anyone with an ounce of compassion would look carefully at the "rules" in these circumstances. There are so many situations all over the country where children out of catchment receive school places- often through choice rather than need. To compound the stress and anxiety this family are living with seems so unreasonable. Most decisions borne from a rule book can be reversed with the right amount of pressure and effort- I trust the decision makers here will take the necessary steps to keep these boys together.
Lewis74 wrote:
"Anyone with an ounce of compassion would look carefully at the "rules" in these circumstances."
,
You expect compassion from the Council? Why would they need compassion, when they have rules to hide behind. They can't use common sense, as that would entail then actually thinking outside the box, something they are incapable of doing, in fact there is a rule stopping them doing just that.
.
“Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men" Guess which one Mr Nash comes under?

trebor78 says...
8:00pm Tue 7 Feb 12

Fortunately for the majority of the people commenting on this story, they are not in the same terrible, tragic position of this young family, so its easy to say 'they made the decision themselves' or 'if there isn't space do you expect them to take a child out and make space', there also appears to be some key facts missing here, and have therefore been added such as 'they have both been offered a space'.

The fact is this poor mother is quite clearly seriously ill, and what would have been a difficult situation (dropping two children off in two different places at the same time, and picking them up) is now a totally impossible situation because she has now suffered a brain tumour (aswell as a host of other complications) and is now unable to drive as a result.

Now, put yourself in this situation... Surely you would want the simplest solution, a solution that causes no extra stress and strain, that incidently is only going to add a further burden to an already strained and upset family...

Like many people have already posted, exceptional circumstances, call for exceptional actions...

sazy123 says...
8:41pm Tue 7 Feb 12

I can only imagine what Mrs Amey and her family are going through with the illness its self and this decision not to allow the younger child into mudeford infants has only added to the nightmare. I hope that because of the sensitive and exceptional circumstances that the child can go to Mudeford. I fully support Mrs Amey and good luck to her and family.

Carley Smith says...
8:43pm Tue 7 Feb 12

I really hope that people reading this article realise how much of a daily struggle this is putting on a family that are already going through such a traumatic time. As if they're not suffering enough Michelle is now having to fight all this at a time when she should be spending it with her children. I just hope the problem gets sorted for a local well loved family before time runs out!

bmthmumof2 says...
8:44pm Tue 7 Feb 12

As a mum of 2 children I am first of all drawn to the courage and strength of this lady -not only to continue what seems to be an on going battle with the school system but to also contend with her battle of her own health issues! I'm sure she has not wanted to go to the paper about all this to receive sympathy but as a desperate measure to ensure the stability and structure for her young boys eduction when they have worries (or are at least aware of )mummys illness which however young will have some sort of impact on them.
I would like to know out of interest what on earth you need to make the appeals board grant an appeal if
a. - a sibling already attends
b. - they are 120 yards out of catchment (i mean come on, 120 yards out - thats a 15 second sprint!!!)
c. - a parent is undergoing treatment for cancer
d. - they are now unable to drive due to an op to remove the cancer - how do they expect a person to be in 2 places at the same time and now to do that on foot?
All of the above and still no??!!
I know everyone has their own issues and problems in life, some people may read this article and think- out of catchment end of. But especially those who are parents and have children of similar ages can you imagine being in their situation - i mean really imagine being in their situation?? Would you want to take your eldest out of a school they have been in for 3 years, all the friends they have, all the familiarity they know when they are having so much uncertainty at home? Would you want to do that? Would you want your kids to be seperated at schools so on days when they have worries and anxiety (maybe about mummy) they didn't have one another. I know this isn't the only factor that should count but they are so close to the catchment anyway - its not like they have moved to Ferndown or somewhere?!!
Imgaine the worry and stress an illness can put on a family, I know her children are young but even the youngest of children get affected in all different ways, then add onto that the stress of having to all the time keep nagging and putting your story to appeal after appeal and letters to mp, reports to newspapers etc etc - is enough not enough?
I am not saying oh just give a place to anybody because they want their kids to go to a particular school or they want their kids to go to school together even though they've moved out of catchment. All im saying is this is an exceptional circumstance and red tape is good and should be there but sometimes it should be bended slightly.
I really hope that something positive comes out of all of this for them all.

rayc says...
9:22pm Tue 7 Feb 12

I hope that if I ever get as ill as the lady in this story that I have the same strength to fight the Council.
What a country to live in when the petty bureaucrats are scared to make an exeption to their rules for this desperate family. I wonder if they would be able to find a place for a 'right' applicant.

Jamie T W says...
10:57pm Tue 7 Feb 12

I find it unbelievable, that after all this Mum has been through and should now be trying to avoid stressful situations, an exception cannot be made to allow her youngest son to join his older brother at his current school.

I understand the school must stick to it's admission policy, but being only 260 feet out of catchment, seems to be an absolute joke when your sibling has already been at the chosen school for two years.

Surely sense must prevail to alleviate any further anxiety and stress for this family, in what must already be a very difficult time.

clarerowthorn says...
10:58pm Tue 7 Feb 12

I am totally disgusted that there is even a question mark over whether Michelle's two children should attend Mudeford infants. Our society should be supporting families and under these circumstances the Local Education Authority should be doing everything they can to assist the Ameys. Surely the reason for rules and regulations is to protect and support children in school and to ensure that children are able to learn. This being the case it is clearly in the boys' best interests to be in the same school where they can support each other, and where one school can consistently support them both. As Michelle is unable to drive practicality dictates that she is not able to get both boys to two separate schools on time. This is an exceptional circumstance where compassion and common sense must prevail.

Bmthdad says...
12:01am Wed 8 Feb 12

This is not about rules or regulations or catchments or quotas.
It is about the well being and peace of mind of a woman suffering from cancer, and the well being of two little boys that could do with the other around at school, which is daunting enough let alone in their circumstances.
It is also about the peace of mind of what appears to be a hard working dad too.
All in all, it is about a decent family that are asking for something back from a part of their community in the shape of the school and council.
The RIGHT thing to do is to give the family what they are asking for.
ANYONE on here that thinks otherwise is a human disgrace, and the two women Lucy28 and Deboo that commented above ought to be ashamed of themselves.
The family are in EXCEPTIONAL circumstances that are hopefully a "one off".
DO IT NOW Bournemouth Council or be damned.

Ohec Blimey says...
10:22am Wed 8 Feb 12

I completely agree with BmthDad when he says that "Bournemouth Council be damned".....oh hang on....

Dons04 says...
10:42am Wed 8 Feb 12

Debboo wrote:
They were in the catchment area, then moved OUT of the catchment area, despte knowing exactly where the borderd are. It seems to me they made the decision themselves.
The article does not state that the family knew they would be out of catchment area when they moved and as it is only yards this suggests they did not realise.

lorna4988 says...
10:44am Wed 8 Feb 12

I think what some people have written on here is absolutely disgusting and you should all be ashamed of yourselves!! Do you really think this woman has asked for this to happen to use as an excuse to get her child in to a school its sick that you would think this.
Obviously people in their perfect little lives need a bump with realtity.
All this lady wants is for her children to be together as by the sounds of things her health is deteriorating as a mother you want what you think is best for your kids. Now tel me what exactly would you do in her situation??

Bmthdad says...
12:48pm Wed 8 Feb 12

lorna4988 wrote:
I think what some people have written on here is absolutely disgusting and you should all be ashamed of yourselves!! Do you really think this woman has asked for this to happen to use as an excuse to get her child in to a school its sick that you would think this.
Obviously people in their perfect little lives need a bump with realtity.
All this lady wants is for her children to be together as by the sounds of things her health is deteriorating as a mother you want what you think is best for your kids. Now tel me what exactly would you do in her situation??
Hear hear. It's really not so complicated to offer some charity and compassion to this family is it?

squeaky1989 says...
12:52pm Wed 8 Feb 12

As someone who lost their mother at a young age and is one of four siblings i feel compelled to write something on behalf of these poor young boys. I have two younger brothers who were 4 and 7 when we lost our mum and they both went to the same school and it was a great help for them to be togther, as its the little things that get to you at school like having to talk about your family. When it all gets too much it's better to have a sibling to run to rather than a teacher and a sibling to confide in how your feeling. Its such a delicate situation for any one at any age let alone being so young and not understanding the facts. Another sinario for me is that me and my sister also went to that same school when our mother was ill and for my sister it all got too much and she fainted through the stress, when she came to the only person she wanted was me and if i wasnt there it would have been so hard for her and she would have had to drop out of school to be around people that she knows and can confdie in. I do not understand why people feel the need to comment here when they havent been in the situation and are being very ubrupt with what they are saying. Its not nice to know there are people out there who have no compasion for others.Ii know that my family would have done anything for me and my siblings to keep us together as it makes you stronger when going through what i know is the hardest thing iv ever had to go through in my life. I think that people need to open their eyes and understand that these young boys need each other and stability now if not ever. As i have been directly in this situation and others havent i do not see why people feel the need to judge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cr1106 says...
1:41pm Wed 8 Feb 12

People who have commented on this story without compassion should be ashamed of themselves. The two boys should be kept together, no one should be arguing that. Someford School is further away than Mudeford and so in my opinion should not be considered as an alternative school for one boy or both. When someone is ill you should do your best to help not hinder them, I think Michelle is so very brave and I hope she has the continued strength to continue fighting something which is wholly unjust. And I hope this goes further in that the Council are questioned over their behaviour.

cr1106 says...
1:46pm Wed 8 Feb 12

Just a little amazing fact: John Nash salary £123,000, is he worth what we, the tax payer, are paying for him?

RED RUSS says...
2:35pm Wed 8 Feb 12

Why is this issue got as far as this and why is a desperate family having to resort to asking for a petition? Ridiculous! Knowing this family well I know what they have been through, for them to have their boys at the same school would be of a huge help and when you consider what the family has and is still going through then everthing should be done to accomodate their request. Red tape - occassionally it can and must be crossed and broken!

portia6 says...
5:29pm Wed 8 Feb 12

I am sure that the school will work
with the council to sort this out hope
no political points will be used!

*Fiona* says...
5:53pm Wed 8 Feb 12

Bmthdad wrote:
This is not about rules or regulations or catchments or quotas.
It is about the well being and peace of mind of a woman suffering from cancer, and the well being of two little boys that could do with the other around at school, which is daunting enough let alone in their circumstances.
It is also about the peace of mind of what appears to be a hard working dad too.
All in all, it is about a decent family that are asking for something back from a part of their community in the shape of the school and council.
The RIGHT thing to do is to give the family what they are asking for.
ANYONE on here that thinks otherwise is a human disgrace, and the two women Lucy28 and Deboo that commented above ought to be ashamed of themselves.
The family are in EXCEPTIONAL circumstances that are hopefully a "one off".
DO IT NOW Bournemouth Council or be damned.
Its not Bournemouth education directorate its Christchurch.

Rich© says...
5:54pm Wed 8 Feb 12

I have all the sympathy with the family & wish them all the best.

I've read the story & Mrs Amey wanting to send both children together to the same school. So If Somerford school was to offer two places for both children would that help ? because I'm thinking here that the crux of the matter is Mrs Amey doesn't want to send her children to Somerford School.

It's that one word "Somerford" that I see causing Mrs Amey problems.

Well I can try & alleviate any concerns, I live in Somerford, I went to all the schools in Somerford as did my children & we have all come through the education very well. To be honest I've heard worse horror stories coming out of Highcliffe School then Somerford !!!

Bmthdad says...
6:31pm Wed 8 Feb 12

*Fiona* wrote:
Bmthdad wrote:
This is not about rules or regulations or catchments or quotas.
It is about the well being and peace of mind of a woman suffering from cancer, and the well being of two little boys that could do with the other around at school, which is daunting enough let alone in their circumstances.
It is also about the peace of mind of what appears to be a hard working dad too.
All in all, it is about a decent family that are asking for something back from a part of their community in the shape of the school and council.
The RIGHT thing to do is to give the family what they are asking for.
ANYONE on here that thinks otherwise is a human disgrace, and the two women Lucy28 and Deboo that commented above ought to be ashamed of themselves.
The family are in EXCEPTIONAL circumstances that are hopefully a "one off".
DO IT NOW Bournemouth Council or be damned.
Its not Bournemouth education directorate its Christchurch.
Ok then substitute Bournemouth with Christchurch. My mistake.

Bmthdad says...
6:38pm Wed 8 Feb 12

Rich© wrote:
I have all the sympathy with the family & wish them all the best.

I've read the story & Mrs Amey wanting to send both children together to the same school. So If Somerford school was to offer two places for both children would that help ? because I'm thinking here that the crux of the matter is Mrs Amey doesn't want to send her children to Somerford School.

It's that one word "Somerford" that I see causing Mrs Amey problems.

Well I can try & alleviate any concerns, I live in Somerford, I went to all the schools in Somerford as did my children & we have all come through the education very well. To be honest I've heard worse horror stories coming out of Highcliffe School then Somerford !!!
I think the issue is that one child has already started at the other school and therefore it would be even more disruptive to move the child that already has school "roots" to Somerford to be with his brother that is just starting.

denmarmat says...
6:54pm Wed 8 Feb 12

Obviously if the decision was in the hands of a normal thinking person there would be no question of what action would be taken but unforunately common sense does not exist with the decision making people that is councillors and unfortunately this ladies situation has attracted comments from councillors,ex & failed hiding behind their aliases obviously with hidden agendas

excella says...
8:55pm Wed 8 Feb 12

I for one believe the Amey family should be shown some dignity and compassion in this instance. I hope the council use some common sense and wish the family all the best.

timbaker says...
10:09pm Wed 8 Feb 12

Marcus James wrote:
Why do officials hide behind "guidelines and rules", the same guidelines and rules that they are happy to break when it suits them such as waiting times for answers to appeals and enquiries etc
We cannot help all of the people all of the time but surely there need to be situations in which rules can be broken and in which the school and the governors etc can take a “view”
I challenge every single one of the po-faced people who have commented on here who think that 'rules are rules' to go through anything close to what Michelle has gone through and still believe it is right that her two children cannot go to school together.
It is a non-argument to say "what if a place was offered for both at Somerford" - why on earth should the elder boy be uprooted from his school? It is ridiculous that there is even debate about this.......

Bmthdad says...
10:29pm Wed 8 Feb 12

timbaker wrote:
Marcus James wrote:
Why do officials hide behind "guidelines and rules", the same guidelines and rules that they are happy to break when it suits them such as waiting times for answers to appeals and enquiries etc
We cannot help all of the people all of the time but surely there need to be situations in which rules can be broken and in which the school and the governors etc can take a “view”
I challenge every single one of the po-faced people who have commented on here who think that 'rules are rules' to go through anything close to what Michelle has gone through and still believe it is right that her two children cannot go to school together.
It is a non-argument to say "what if a place was offered for both at Somerford" - why on earth should the elder boy be uprooted from his school? It is ridiculous that there is even debate about this.......
Couldn't agree more and cannot understand why there is an argument as it is so very obvious what should be done.
It is about what is RIGHT.

treacs says...
10:31pm Wed 8 Feb 12

Rules! Rules ! Rules! they only suit people when they want them too. This world is hard enough without letting another family suffer. This mother just wants her boys to support each other at real crap time . it is a near impossible thing to get the boys to school on time and in the condition she is in. The allocation of places should also take into consideration the wealth and health and the effect this will have on the children when one of them is waiting for mum to collect them, not to forget all the huffing and puffing the school will do when they are either late to school or late collected. This isn't just about the mum but the children too. Get a heart some people you would think different if it was you.

c0untingd0wn says...
11:06pm Wed 8 Feb 12

afcb-mark wrote:
How on earth is this poor woman who cannot drive due to her illness supposed to get 2 infants to two different schools at the same time and how is she supposed to collect them when they finish at the same time. Pathetic.

Secondly, why should the older child be uprooted from his friends and familiar surroundings and be sent to a new school. I think it sounds like these 2 little boys have already had quite a lot to deal with in their short lives so far.

If I was the mother I would refuse the place at Somerford and home school the little one until he is offered a place at Mudeford. Most of their time in reception is used for play so he won't be missing out or ruining his education.

Don't give in to them and don't budge until they give you and your sons what you deserve.
I 100% agree with afcb-mark.

Don't the school have a heart?

Surely the younger child should be pushed up the waiting list and not be number 13!

I always thought the schools cared for their children and want whats best for them and their families.

They must be going through a tough time at the moment. I'm sure they can do without all this hassle.

Please Mudeford School, please make it happen.

*Fiona* says...
7:37am Thu 9 Feb 12

Its a shame this story cant go national.

Get in national newspapers and on the TV.

The council needs to be publicly shamed and feel the full force of public condemnation.

Timmyland says...
8:59am Thu 9 Feb 12

Saw this in the paper a few nights ago and on the news last night. I thought poor family having to cope with that a young mum dyeing of this god awful disease. been told she cant drive due to it I did not think it was much to ask just to let her two boys go to the same school I wish there was something more we could do to help them. Just to get some good news for once !!!!

afcb-mark says...
11:09am Thu 9 Feb 12

The more I read this story the more angry it makes me. With all that this poor woman has going on she must be both physically and mentally exhausted.

I would imagine it really takes it out of her to do the walk to one school let alone having to then grab one child and rush along to another school quite a distance away to pick up the other one.

I wonder how many of the people sitting on the education panel could do that whilst suffering from cancer plus other health issues.

They should all be ashamed of themselves, where is their compassion? Did they suddenly lose it the minute they were given such an 'important job'

My thoughts are with Michelle and her family and I hope this weight is lifted for her very quickly so she can put all of her energy into improving her health. I also hope she hasn't been too upset by some of the comments on this story as the majority of posters fully back her.

Please keep us updated on thos story ECHO

Rally says...
4:03pm Thu 9 Feb 12

Quote: 'Husband Stuart works in Southampton and is unable to collect the boys himself.'
Given the truly tragic circumstances and assuming that the husband commutes to and from Southampton, couldn't the husband come to some arrangement with his employer whereby the husband starts later/leaves earlier so that he can ferry his children to and or from the schools concerned?

Binky says...
5:06pm Thu 9 Feb 12

I read this story with a great deal of interest. Five years ago, I was suffering from cancer, and had just moved house. One of my children had a place at a local school, but the other could not get into the same school (different year), as it was "full". He continued to attend his old school, and I had to do two school runs each day, while extremely tired and ill from the chemotherapy I was receiving. Both children were under a great deal of stress from seeing me very ill, and not knowing if I would recover.
After a few weeks of struggling with the situation, I attended an appeals committee, and the panel accepted unanimously that they would find room at the new school for my younger son. He started at the school the following week.
I am astonished that the education authority has refused to help this mother with what is not an unreasonable request, when they were willing to help me. Has so much changed in five years? It is not just the well-being of the mother that needs to be respected here, but the emotional state of the two brothers, who need as much stability and normality as possible at this very difficult time in their lives. I sympathise with this lady 100% and I hope that a solution can be found very soon.

yasinac says...
9:40pm Thu 9 Feb 12

I am astonished at some of the appalling comments on here. Until recently my son attended Mudeford School and I'm sure that if Mr Churchill could wave a magic wand and secure a place for Charlie's little brother he would. This is an extreemly friendly community school that extends a hand of support to all that it can. Dorset County Council deal solely with school admissions and transfers, and notify schools of any changes to the roll, so it's them that has to make this happen. As for the Dad doing the school run, he'd have to work 10 til 2 to accommodate the school runs and I'm sure none of you are naive enough to think that with a cancer diagnosis money worries vanish out of the window, if anything these things increase, so a drop in salary from the shorter hours is just not viable. Taking this story to the media was most probably a last ditch attempt to be listened too and I hope that the thoughtless comments from some of the posters above have not upset Mrs Amey too much. Wishing you all a happy outcome.

Rally says...
10:35pm Thu 9 Feb 12

yasinac wrote:
I am astonished at some of the appalling comments on here. Until recently my son attended Mudeford School and I'm sure that if Mr Churchill could wave a magic wand and secure a place for Charlie's little brother he would. This is an extreemly friendly community school that extends a hand of support to all that it can. Dorset County Council deal solely with school admissions and transfers, and notify schools of any changes to the roll, so it's them that has to make this happen. As for the Dad doing the school run, he'd have to work 10 til 2 to accommodate the school runs and I'm sure none of you are naive enough to think that with a cancer diagnosis money worries vanish out of the window, if anything these things increase, so a drop in salary from the shorter hours is just not viable. Taking this story to the media was most probably a last ditch attempt to be listened too and I hope that the thoughtless comments from some of the posters above have not upset Mrs Amey too much. Wishing you all a happy outcome.
Yasinac wrote, '...As for the Dad doing the school run, he'd have to work 10 til 2 to accommodate the school runs and I'm sure none of you are naive enough to think that with a cancer diagnosis money worries vanish out of the window, if anything these things increase, so a drop in salary from the shorter hours is just not viable.'

I hadn't thought it through properly and apologise to Mr and Mrs Amey for this.

portia6 says...
10:45pm Thu 9 Feb 12

Choice of school seems to be the
issue here working class against the
middle class raises its head again.

portia6 says...
11:05pm Thu 9 Feb 12

We don't all come from the school
of hard knocks this family need
a sensitive understanding advocate.

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