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Concern over 120 homes on ex-landfill site

7:00pm Thursday 4th September 2008

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SCORES of anxious residents packed a public exhibition, yesterday, detailing controversial housing plans on a former toxic landfill site.

The land, off Kellaway Road and Verity Crescent, Canford Heath, Poole, is earmarked for 120 homes.

Many neighbours are fiercely opposed to the scheme, arguing it represents over-development, will add to traffic congestion and harm the natural environment.

Several development companies have targeted the brownfield site over the past 20 years, leading to a long succession of planning appeals and inquiries.

The latest developers, Miller Homes and Bellway Homes, held the exhibition at Canford Heath Library in a bid to allay fears and let residents voice their concerns.

These latest plans specify a mix of family homes and "the enhancement of shared surfaces to create a less car-dominated street environment, to provide a pedestrian-dominated environment and create a series of differing character areas, promoting a sense of local identity."

Environmental tests confirm the area, which was a quarry before being used as landfill while the sprawling Canford Heath Estate was built, is safe for homes.

Low levels of methane and asbestos are present, but tests show soil contamination and the risk of asbestos fibres being released is low.

A Bellway Homes/ Miller Homes spokesman said: "The majority of the 8.75-hectare site would be managed for public access and nature conservation.

"Access through the site would also be provided, with new footpaths and links to existing open spaces and to Tower Park.

"The proposed long-term management would protect the nature conservation interests of the site, parts of which are important areas for reptiles and other species."

An official planning application is lodged with the Borough of Poole, and the scheme is likely to go before the planning board in the coming months.


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Marlon, Poole says...
7:06pm Thu 4 Sep 08

I don't know what the problem is - the houses at Baiter are all built on an old rubbish dump! My friend used to rent a flat there and was left a note saying don't eat anything grown in the garden!!

Mike Pickering, Bournemouth says...
7:56pm Thu 4 Sep 08

The place used to look like a nuclear testing zone about 25 years ago - the quarry filled with water, quicksand and landslides - I wouldnt want to live on a house there..

There used to be a solitary house up there, with - I think, access from the Old Wareham road - anyone know anything about it ?

muffin the mule, wallisdown says...
8:35pm Thu 4 Sep 08

its just a flimsy excuse for not getting a load of houses on their doorsteps ..... quite rightly houses on Baiter were built on the site of the old power station and a waste site ... no big deal

cookie75, Poole says...
8:46pm Thu 4 Sep 08

Hi Mike, when i used to play on that site when i was young 5 or 6, which would have been 1980/81. I faintly remember a stream running through the land that made the floor very boggy.

The house on Old Wareham Road belonged to the Bogey Man.. well that's what us kids were told. Do not go near to that house or to the gypsy camp otherwise you will be taken away!! And we did as we were told.. no one went anywhere near that place or to where tower park now stands!!

Halcyon Days!

(I believe that the house had been derelict for many many years, probably from the sixties onwards)

silky, Bournemouth says...
9:07pm Thu 4 Sep 08

I have mentioned this before but low levels of asbestos presence still mean there is asbestos present. I have a relative suffering the effects of exposure to asbestos and I would wish it on my worst enemy. One fibre breathed in is enough to cause mesothelioma (cancer of the lung/stomach lining). Google mesothelioma uk for more info. It's everywhere. The government is happy to wave through "low levels" in schools, building sites, offices etc but the Palace of Westminster has had all traces of asbestos removed. In 1994, the Department of the Environment found asbestos in its headquarters. Though the building was due for demolition just two years later, the asbestos was removed at a cost of £1million. No big deal, eh....



silky, Bournemouth says...
9:09pm Thu 4 Sep 08

silky wrote:
I have mentioned this before but low levels of asbestos presence still mean there is asbestos present. I have a relative suffering the effects of exposure to asbestos and I would wish it on my worst enemy. One fibre breathed in is enough to cause mesothelioma (cancer of the lung/stomach lining). Google mesothelioma uk for more info. It's everywhere. The government is happy to wave through "low levels" in schools, building sites, offices etc but the Palace of Westminster has had all traces of asbestos removed. In 1994, the Department of the Environment found asbestos in its headquarters. Though the building was due for demolition just two years later, the asbestos was removed at a cost of £1million. No big deal, eh....
*should read would NOT wish it on my worst enemy! Even the really horrible ones....

muffin the mule, wallisdown says...
7:42am Fri 5 Sep 08

silky wrote:
I have mentioned this before but low levels of asbestos presence still mean there is asbestos present. I have a relative suffering the effects of exposure to asbestos and I would wish it on my worst enemy. One fibre breathed in is enough to cause mesothelioma (cancer of the lung/stomach lining). Google mesothelioma uk for more info. It's everywhere. The government is happy to wave through "low levels" in schools, building sites, offices etc but the Palace of Westminster has had all traces of asbestos removed. In 1994, the Department of the Environment found asbestos in its headquarters. Though the building was due for demolition just two years later, the asbestos was removed at a cost of £1million. No big deal, eh....


i am sure they know what they are doing ,all contaminants will be sealed into the ground where else has it been a problem ?and they construct houses on old industrial sites all the time especially in the north were toxic dumps were rife,these issues are only a problem when no-one knows about them

Spitfire, Bournemouth says...
9:32am Fri 5 Sep 08

Dont worry , Bmth council isn`t going to build a gypsy site on an old waste ground, so I can`t see Poole council building houses on one.

Would they ??

sky1, Dorset says...
12:32pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Be very wary - we once bought a new build on land that had previously been an 'industrial' site. The developer gave all the reassurances & paperwork about the land being 'clean', but when we wanted to sell, we had horrendous problems with buyer's solicitors, in the end we had to buy an insurance policy for the new buyer which would cover any future issues he may have with this ex-commercial land the house was built on!

ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX says...
12:58pm Fri 5 Sep 08

NIMBY's want everthing their way!
Brooks site at hamworthy is built on, so is the old Marley Tile ponds on the nuffield, also the Wessex Park so whats wrong with a few more houses on Canford Heath? I am old enough to remember the heath when it was a just swamp, sandpit and car dump in the '50's and I have now lived on the Heath since the 60's!!
These NIMBY's are probably all from outside the area anyway, grockles to the locals and if they don't like it then move back to where you came from and good riddence!
Let other people have the benefit of living in a lovely area.

laurie marsh, australia says...
1:25pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Muffin,
When you say "they know what they are doing", you are right.
That is the very time to take a look over your shoulder, because "they" do.
Look out!

Quakers, Poole says...
1:48pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Usual dross from All Seing Eye!
There are other points to this debate. Have any of you driven along Adastral Road in the morning? Its very busy during school terms. Where will all these lovely new residents go to school? doctors? libraries? etc. Its Ok for developers to spout on about low car usage but the reality is they will park their vehicles in other, already congested roads. Those residents are right to complain that this would be a detriment to their current standard of living. Poole Council should refuse the application until all other infrastructure is in place and I dont mean a new set of swings and seesaws. Canford Heath residents and those who use it as a cutthrough to get to work, should let Planning at Poole Council know how they feel and not rely on letters to the Echo. You can send comments via their website boroughofpoole.com

silky, Bournemouth says...
2:34pm Fri 5 Sep 08

muffin the mule wrote:
silky wrote: I have mentioned this before but low levels of asbestos presence still mean there is asbestos present. I have a relative suffering the effects of exposure to asbestos and I would wish it on my worst enemy. One fibre breathed in is enough to cause mesothelioma (cancer of the lung/stomach lining). Google mesothelioma uk for more info. It's everywhere. The government is happy to wave through "low levels" in schools, building sites, offices etc but the Palace of Westminster has had all traces of asbestos removed. In 1994, the Department of the Environment found asbestos in its headquarters. Though the building was due for demolition just two years later, the asbestos was removed at a cost of £1million. No big deal, eh....
i am sure they know what they are doing ,all contaminants will be sealed into the ground where else has it been a problem ?and they construct houses on old industrial sites all the time especially in the north were toxic dumps were rife,these issues are only a problem when no-one knows about them
So trusting, Muffin! I think you will find statistics show that mesothelioma is far more prevalent in industrial areas, especially the north. And don't forget that it can take 20-60 years for symptoms to show themselves, hence the apathy. But if you could see how cruel asbestos related illness is I am sure you would think a little differently.

luckyflower, Poole says...
2:48pm Fri 5 Sep 08

I live in Scarf Road and the new housing will be right behind my back gate. I'm not a NIMBY but very concerned for my family's and my health. Why can't the housing be moved nearer the dual carriageway?

ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX says...
4:18pm Fri 5 Sep 08

Quakers wrote:
Usual dross from All Seing Eye! There are other points to this debate. Have any of you driven along Adastral Road in the morning? Its very busy during school terms. Where will all these lovely new residents go to school? doctors? libraries? etc. Its Ok for developers to spout on about low car usage but the reality is they will park their vehicles in other, already congested roads. Those residents are right to complain that this would be a detriment to their current standard of living. Poole Council should refuse the application until all other infrastructure is in place and I dont mean a new set of swings and seesaws. Canford Heath residents and those who use it as a cutthrough to get to work, should let Planning at Poole Council know how they feel and not rely on letters to the Echo. You can send comments via their website boroughofpoole.com
QUAKERS or should it be Quackers Like I said NIMBY's and you are probably a grockle.
As I said I live on the Heath and near a school. The only reason roads get clogged is because lazy parents drive their little darlings to school and that is why kids are becoming obese!

Quakers, Poole says...
5:07pm Fri 5 Sep 08

All Seeing Eye - I live on Canford Heath too you pr*t. Its good that you agree with my comments about traffic but if you do live on the heath then you will also appreciate that an extra 120 homes will stretch all other services. I cant imagine you'd be too happy to have to wait at the Mitchell Road GP to get the medication you need every week. Make sure you contact the Planners LuckyFlower.

Mad Karew, Poole says...
9:57am Mon 8 Sep 08

Unfortunately, the Government targets which drive the emormous increase in housing mean that sites like this can't be ignored - would you prefer all of Poole's remaining Green Belt to be covered with houses instead, leaving only the contaminated land unused?
The developers will have to decontaminate the site before building, I would guess removing and replacing the topsoil.
There are several successful examples of this in Poole, the most recent being Poole Quarter; an older case is Bearwood built in the 1970s, where a large chunk of the estate is built on an old landfill and there have been few real problems.
If we have to have the extra houses, this seems like a good place, subject to the usual concerns of traffic, infrastructure etc which Poole's Planning Committee will have to take on board.

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