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7:19am Monday 1st September 2008

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FIREFIGHTERS were called out 82 times to Bournemouth University accommodation over the last year - and dealt with just three blazes.

The majority of calls outs were for "fire alarm good intent" - for example burning toast, often in the early hours of the morning, They were called out 50 times, including 11 malicious calls, to one accommodation block alone - Cranborne House at the Lansdowne.

Students living there were nearly 20 times more likely to make prank calls or set off alarms deliberately than other residents in town.

The figures, obtained by the Daily Echo under the Freedom of Information Act, also showed the call-outs cost an estimated £10,499.

Only three call-outs were classified as property fires. Another 20 were to release people from lifts or due to faults in the system.

University-managed student flats and halls of residence had far more call-outs than houses or privately managed accommodation.

Individual student houses let by landlords are not included in the figures.

Craig Baker, Dorset Fire Service's group manager, said: "We think of the call-out not the cost involved, but when it mounts up in that way it's significant. "More important is the type of calls we're taking. Malicious calls are potentially taking firefighters from real emergencies, real fires, real car crashes."

He stressed fire safety awareness and added: "It might seem quite simple, but if you are cooking, keep a watch on it."

University press officer Emma Wray said: "While we are concerned about the small number of malicious call-outs, we do recognise individuals are responsible for their behaviour.

"Equally, we are extremely grateful to Dorset Fire and Rescue for their invaluable service they provide to our students, many of whom may be experiencing new situations from a health and safety perspective.

"We will continue to brief students on their conduct, especially those arriving for the start of the new term, while reminding them of the right time to call emergency services."


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amused, poole says...
7:24am Mon 1 Sep 08

fine them for wasted calls

ALL SEEING EYE, WESSEX says...
9:58am Mon 1 Sep 08

amused wrote:
fine them for wasted calls
Don't be daft, they would just get Mummy or Daddy to pay - the spoilt little sponging brats, most are only there for a three year holiday!

vext01, says...
10:47am Mon 1 Sep 08

ALL SEEING EYE wrote:
amused wrote:
fine them for wasted calls
Don't be daft, they would just get Mummy or Daddy to pay - the spoilt little sponging brats, most are only there for a three year holiday!
I sweeping generalisation there I feel. I am a student and believe me, my parents would not bail me out for such stupidity as prank calls.

Yes, some students are here for an easy ride, but others are here to achieve and are not as lucky as to be funded entirely by relatives.

Also I chose not to live in halls just to avoid this sort of nonsense. Unfortunately it's expected.

Steve, Ensbury Park says...
10:58am Mon 1 Sep 08

When my daughter was in university accomodation, anyone caught setting off the fire alarm unnecessarily were billed by the local fire brigade for their wasted time.

debbie2110, bournemouth says...
12:19pm Mon 1 Sep 08

Why are we giving these people the privilege of an education? It should be just that, a privilege for those wishing to contribute to our society not an opportunity to play about for a few years before settling down to a cosy life on benefits (which is what I suspect these wasters will do).

The University should be fined for these incidents, then they might investigate who the troublemakers are and pass on the cost. Perhaps there should be some compulsory courses in good citizenship and behaviour before they start teaching them? I’d be interested to know how many of the false alarms and malicious calls are made by students who are on courses not considered academic – media, marketing, retail etc which prior to the governments desires for all to have university education would have been learn on the job.

These kids would have previously been mentored and given guidance on behaviour and would not have been in a situation with many similar minded numptys to impress! The joke is they complete their ‘retail’ degree and expect to become CEO of Tesco and would rather claim benefit than do a cashier job or stack shelves. Sadly my niece is one of these who now have a ‘qualification’ that makes her too good to start at the bottom with a retailer and work her way up. I love her to bits but she has so many friends doing the same thing and staying home having babies due to their expectations on graduating not being met. At least she lived at home during her studies so she would not have been one of the wasters endangering others with stupidity and abuse of our emergency services.

Universities are now all about revenue. So if they lost some because of passed on cost for malicious abuse of emergency service, they’d eventually cotton on to the fact they had to do something! Perhaps they’d also look at why so many of their students feel the need to binge drink to the extent they are incapable of toasting bread safely? Lack of pastoral care maybe? For some kids being away from home and the amount of freedom is a challenge and needs careful support.

peter woodley, says...
1:55pm Mon 1 Sep 08

debbie2110 wrote:
Why are we giving these people the privilege of an education? It should be just that, a privilege for those wishing to contribute to our society not an opportunity to play about for a few years before settling down to a cosy life on benefits (which is what I suspect these wasters will do).

The University should be fined for these incidents, then they might investigate who the troublemakers are and pass on the cost. Perhaps there should be some compulsory courses in good citizenship and behaviour before they start teaching them? I’d be interested to know how many of the false alarms and malicious calls are made by students who are on courses not considered academic – media, marketing, retail etc which prior to the governments desires for all to have university education would have been learn on the job.

These kids would have previously been mentored and given guidance on behaviour and would not have been in a situation with many similar minded numptys to impress! The joke is they complete their ‘retail’ degree and expect to become CEO of Tesco and would rather claim benefit than do a cashier job or stack shelves. Sadly my niece is one of these who now have a ‘qualification’ that makes her too good to start at the bottom with a retailer and work her way up. I love her to bits but she has so many friends doing the same thing and staying home having babies due to their expectations on graduating not being met. At least she lived at home during her studies so she would not have been one of the wasters endangering others with stupidity and abuse of our emergency services.

Universities are now all about revenue. So if they lost some because of passed on cost for malicious abuse of emergency service, they’d eventually cotton on to the fact they had to do something! Perhaps they’d also look at why so many of their students feel the need to binge drink to the extent they are incapable of toasting bread safely? Lack of pastoral care maybe? For some kids being away from home and the amount of freedom is a challenge and needs careful support.
Very interesting and to the point comment,A very sensible answer from a parent.

silky, Bournemouth says...
4:07pm Mon 1 Sep 08

peter woodley wrote:
debbie2110 wrote: Why are we giving these people the privilege of an education? It should be just that, a privilege for those wishing to contribute to our society not an opportunity to play about for a few years before settling down to a cosy life on benefits (which is what I suspect these wasters will do). The University should be fined for these incidents, then they might investigate who the troublemakers are and pass on the cost. Perhaps there should be some compulsory courses in good citizenship and behaviour before they start teaching them? I’d be interested to know how many of the false alarms and malicious calls are made by students who are on courses not considered academic – media, marketing, retail etc which prior to the governments desires for all to have university education would have been learn on the job. These kids would have previously been mentored and given guidance on behaviour and would not have been in a situation with many similar minded numptys to impress! The joke is they complete their ‘retail’ degree and expect to become CEO of Tesco and would rather claim benefit than do a cashier job or stack shelves. Sadly my niece is one of these who now have a ‘qualification’ that makes her too good to start at the bottom with a retailer and work her way up. I love her to bits but she has so many friends doing the same thing and staying home having babies due to their expectations on graduating not being met. At least she lived at home during her studies so she would not have been one of the wasters endangering others with stupidity and abuse of our emergency services. Universities are now all about revenue. So if they lost some because of passed on cost for malicious abuse of emergency service, they’d eventually cotton on to the fact they had to do something! Perhaps they’d also look at why so many of their students feel the need to binge drink to the extent they are incapable of toasting bread safely? Lack of pastoral care maybe? For some kids being away from home and the amount of freedom is a challenge and needs careful support.
Very interesting and to the point comment,A very sensible answer from a parent.
Welcome back, Sir Woodley. Where have you been? I have missed your presence here!

peter woodley, says...
4:28pm Mon 1 Sep 08

silky wrote:
peter woodley wrote:
debbie2110 wrote: Why are we giving these people the privilege of an education? It should be just that, a privilege for those wishing to contribute to our society not an opportunity to play about for a few years before settling down to a cosy life on benefits (which is what I suspect these wasters will do). The University should be fined for these incidents, then they might investigate who the troublemakers are and pass on the cost. Perhaps there should be some compulsory courses in good citizenship and behaviour before they start teaching them? I’d be interested to know how many of the false alarms and malicious calls are made by students who are on courses not considered academic – media, marketing, retail etc which prior to the governments desires for all to have university education would have been learn on the job. These kids would have previously been mentored and given guidance on behaviour and would not have been in a situation with many similar minded numptys to impress! The joke is they complete their ‘retail’ degree and expect to become CEO of Tesco and would rather claim benefit than do a cashier job or stack shelves. Sadly my niece is one of these who now have a ‘qualification’ that makes her too good to start at the bottom with a retailer and work her way up. I love her to bits but she has so many friends doing the same thing and staying home having babies due to their expectations on graduating not being met. At least she lived at home during her studies so she would not have been one of the wasters endangering others with stupidity and abuse of our emergency services. Universities are now all about revenue. So if they lost some because of passed on cost for malicious abuse of emergency service, they’d eventually cotton on to the fact they had to do something! Perhaps they’d also look at why so many of their students feel the need to binge drink to the extent they are incapable of toasting bread safely? Lack of pastoral care maybe? For some kids being away from home and the amount of freedom is a challenge and needs careful support.
Very interesting and to the point comment,A very sensible answer from a parent.
Welcome back, Sir Woodley. Where have you been? I have missed your presence here!
Convalescing from a "slapped wrist".

PolyFella, Poole says...
6:12pm Mon 1 Sep 08

It's sad to see comments posted here by people who are so out of touch with reality who know almost nothing of modern university life and allow their sterotypical view of today's students cloud their judgement.

Kerri, Winton says...
6:55pm Mon 1 Sep 08

Please don't generalise students, the people in this block are generally first years (18-19 year olds), who have only just moved out of home and need to mature a bit but this is also the point to university social skills, life skills and an education. Also, for your information the majority of people go to university to get a proper job so they don't have to live on benefits, out of the people on my course 90% or more are in full time employment for large organisations mainly in the city. So please take back your comments, who do you think helps pay for the economy when the tourists are away???

chris100, bournemouth says...
5:15pm Tue 2 Sep 08

charge the uni for the false call outs

kath_n_keith, Slades Farm says...
9:30pm Tue 2 Sep 08

Ban them from the university

Mike Pickering, Bournemouth says...
1:04pm Wed 3 Sep 08

Someone sounds jealous that they didn't get to go to university and live the perceived life of japery and high jinks that they read about in the tabloids...
I tell you, I went to University at Southampton, to do a proper science course, back when you had to work hard to be accepted, and I tell you - it was abysmal - filthy, cramped living conditions, plummy idiots with rugby shirts singing loudly in awful bars and pubs with Marlboro Lights girls, constantly struggling with loans and banks and grants authorities to try to get enough money to eat, and a university that had little interest in anything other than securing your continuing attendance so they could recoup more money from the government.
These students may all look like they're living the life of Riley, but the heavy drinking and bawdy behavior just masks the deeper misery that underpins their rather lonely little lives. You missed nothing by having to go to work instead of entertaining these delusions of grandeur, so please don't be bitter.

emma1119995, bournemouth says...
11:07am Thu 4 Sep 08

I am 20 and didn't go to university myself but have plenty of friends who started university with good intentions but 2 years down the line seem to have forgotten why they went in the first place and only ever talk about their nights out to the pub - none of them know what they want to do when they leave or even where to start looking when they leave. I work behind a university building and have complained numerous times about the amount of rubbish being thrown out of windows into our car park (including tin cans) - sometimes directly at cars - it looks like a rubbish tip and the people that own the halls of residence need to take charge a bit more as do the universities because their reputations as being a place where young people can learn are being destroyed.

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THEY'RE TOAST: This block saw more fire service call outs than any other university accommodation in town THEY'RE TOAST: This block saw more fire service call outs than any other university accommodation in town

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