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5:00pm Saturday 9th August 2008

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EVERY year, around 70 per cent of American children attend a summer camp during their school holidays. In France it's about 45 per cent, while in Britain the figure is just two per cent.

It's part and parcel of a US childhood to spend anything from one to four weeks in the great outdoors, enjoying activities a-plenty and making new friends.

So why, when around 81 per cent of teenagers' time is spent "not doing much" in the holidays, are we not taking more advantage of summer camps in this country?

One suggestion is that parents are now too over-protective of their children. This is supported by a recent survey conducted by Persil which revealed that UK parents are the most over-protective in the world.

As part of their Every Child Has the Right study, Persil found that 19 per cent of Brits want to supervise their children's activities - the highest percentage globally.

The research also found that while 70 per cent of adults enjoyed most of their childhood adventures in natural outdoor environments, only 29 per cent of today's children have their adventures in similar places.

Adrian Voce, director of Play England, explained: "Parental fear for their children's safety is a big part of this over-protectiveness, but it's not quite as simple as that. There are a number of pressures on parents, and there are realistic concerns about the general safety of the outdoor world.

"There's definitely a perception that children are under greater threat than they were, say, 25 years ago.

"But the statistics don't support that - children are at no greater risk."

Child behavioural experts suggest that play without parents telling and showing children how to do things is important for a child's development. As well as keeping children fit and healthy, free play teaches children how to make their own choices, create friendships on their own terms and solve problems - all vital skills for adulthood.

Despite their low percentage of attendees compared with other countries, UK summer camps are reporting that numbers are on the increase.

PGL, the UK's largest provider of activity courses for youngsters, has 25 centres spread across Europe including Osmington Bay near Weymouth and Little Canada on the Isle of Wight.

It has been operating since 1957, but they are now seeing higher numbers than ever before.

Spokeswoman Joanne Davies told the Echo: "We are seeing growth year-on-year. Our seven night breaks are the most popular, followed by the four-night breaks, although children can stay for three to four weeks, or just come for the day if they want to.

"In America, the parents don't get much holiday, so it suits the family to send the children away for long stretches.

"In this country, people are leading increasingly hectic lifestyles so it sometimes suits everyone for the children to be away for a few days."

She believes the increase in numbers is also down to "parents wanting to give more freedom to their family, but within a safe environment".

People are also realising that summer camp increases confidence and independence, encourages team building and making new friends."

Fit for Sport, Fitness Consultants for the Ian Wright's Unfit Kids documentary on Channel 4, run Ofsted-registered summer day camps throughout the country - including at Ringwood and Lymington leisure centres.

Emily Woodrow, Fit for Sport play leader at Ringwood said: "In a usual day we will have up to 16 children aged between three and 12 years of all abilities.

"We lay on a wide range of activities that include popular sports, healthy lifestyle sessions and craft workshops within a fun environment throughout the day.

"We do have a focus on fitness, with sessions in basketball, hockey, football, rugby, netball, cricket, javelin and other field sports. Yet we also encourage caring and sharing, and the older children are really good with the younger ones.

"If the child comes on their own, they will always leave having made friends, and we see a lot of the same children return for many summers."

Emily believes there is a definite cultural divide between the UK and the United States.

"In this country, parents want to spend time with their children, while in America, a lot of children are cared for by nannies.

"Families will think nothing of sending their children away for weeks on end.

"On the other hand, British children tend to go come to summer camps because they want to, not because they have to."


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Carl Barron, Dorset says...
6:43pm Sat 9 Aug 08


Quote So why, when around 81 per cent of teenagers' time is spent "not doing much" in the holidays, are we not taking more advantage of summer camps in this country?

Reply Possibly because Britain is perhaps the most mismanaged, dysfunctional, country in the western World.

All we heard from Blair was Education, Education, Education.

As a result of extremely poor teaching methods and changes in the Laws which govern our country. Children in the UK and Adults alike are rated as some of the dumbest we have ever had.

Can't spell, Can't Read Can't add up.
Take away the computers the school results would be astounding.

See report as to 'Indians better at English than Britons'.

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Carl Barron, Dorset says...
6:52pm Sat 9 Aug 08


Sorry folks!

It wasn't meant to be all emboldened , it's a lack of a preview that causes this.

Now even I'm making mistakes.

Hope you're all enjoying the Sunshine?


rich, says...
7:08pm Sat 9 Aug 08

Carl I couldn't have put it better myself,well said fella ! why do we keep haveing these sort of write ups, when "we" know what the problem is but dont do anything about it ! its bizzare.



Nick, Bournemouth says...
7:31pm Sat 9 Aug 08

Well, you voted for them.. :-)

norm, Ferndown says...
7:34pm Sat 9 Aug 08

I'd love to send my kids on such a worthwhile exercise but somehow I suspect it'd cost me #500 plus per week per child..........forge
t it!

Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West says...
7:48pm Sat 9 Aug 08

"We do have a focus on fitness, with sessions in basketball, hockey, football, rugby, netball, cricket, javelin and other field sports.

Although I think sport should be part of a summer camp curriculum, I think the emphasis on sport takes away the enjoyment of some. When one thinks of camps, like the Americans for instance, we think of such things as canoeing, survival crafts, nature trails, etc. In themselves fitness activities but probably more fun than continuous ball sports.

In my opinion, the thought of health and safety rears its head again. What with recent activities such as sport, school fetes being cancelled because of this, it does not bear thinking about, what some parents will be thinking.

Also, as already mentioned is the cost. Probably beyond most families purse strings, typical of holidays and this sort of thing in this country.

Little Canada on the Isle of Wight which has all the sports included, plus all other activities mentioned, and more. For example 25th Aug for 4 nights, £379.00 per child. A lot of money for one child, let alone 2 or 3.


nickg, canford heath says...
7:56pm Sat 9 Aug 08

Carl Barron wrote:
Quote So why, when around 81 per cent of teenagers' time is spent "not doing much" in the holidays, are we not taking more advantage of summer camps in this country? Reply Possibly because Britain is perhaps the most mismanaged, dysfunctional, country in the western World. All we heard from Blair was Education, Education, Education. As a result of extremely poor teaching methods and changes in the Laws which govern our country. Children in the UK and Adults alike are rated as some of the dumbest we have ever had. Can't spell, Can't Read Can't add up. Take away the computers the school results would be astounding. See report as to 'Indians better at English than Britons'. Copy paste link into browser from below: http://news.google.c o.uk/nwshp?client=fi refox-a&rls=org.mozi lla:en-GB:official&t ab=wn&ned=uk&ncl=123 4311411&hl=en&topic= n
Spot on mate.

rich, says...
8:06pm Sat 9 Aug 08

Can't spell, Can't Read Can't add up.


neither can the Echo-

Carry on campinng?
!!!

OK which 7 year old proofed read it ?

palexgo, earth says...
10:43pm Sat 9 Aug 08

70% of American kids are sent to summer camp because their parents only get 10 days holiday a year.

hoppity, hamworthy says...
2:10am Sun 10 Aug 08

whats with getting rid of our kids all the time, nurseries, summer camnps, after school groups , maybe we should try bringing them up ourselves and they might turn out better

kez, upton says...
2:31am Sun 10 Aug 08

What a shame more children are not getting the bennifit of 'summer camps' - both my children have a 5 day camp to look forward to this summer. It is a great way to build self confidence, teaches them independence and they have a whole load of fun at the same time, and at a fraction of the cost if we were to try to do the same activites at home. It's not all about getting rid of the children, although the peace and quiet in the evenings is lovely but it is also about them having new experinces away from haome. There are so many camp organisations to choose from, so come on britain give the kids a chance and they won't be hanging round the streets finding trouble.

chatterbox, North Dorset says...
10:23am Sun 10 Aug 08

hoppity wrote:
whats with getting rid of our kids all the time, nurseries, summer camnps, after school groups , maybe we should try bringing them up ourselves and they might turn out better
Couldn't sgree more. What with breakfast clubs, after school clubs etc being encouraged the schools and other such agencies are becoming the full time guardians of other people's offspring. Soon mothers will be giving birth on the front step of the school and collecting the kid when they've reached the age of 18! Then the'll still complain the schools aren't doing a good enough job! We always took responsibility for rearing and getting our two kids involved in worthwhile persutes to keep them off the streets and we were skint most of the time. Why can't other parents do the same?

Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West says...
10:23am Sun 10 Aug 08

Why not join the Bournemouth Sea Cadets/Marine Cadets, and let the kids (10 -18yrs) enjoy many a weekend enjoying many activities including Sailing, Rowing, Motor Boat, Camping and Field Crafts, with many other physical and fun activities thrown in. A weekly subscription, and costs to cover food and care. The kids have fun, and you have fun yourselves. For more details see the Sea Cadet website, or telephone 01202 301751

http://units.ms-sc.o
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(Do not use the email address in the link above)

Support the Bournemouth Sea Cadets, and enjoy the summer breaks and many more. The Sea Cadets is fun, spelt FUN


Christopher, Wallisdown & Winton West says...
10:28am Sun 10 Aug 08

chatterbox wrote:
hoppity wrote:
whats with getting rid of our kids all the time, nurseries, summer camnps, after school groups , maybe we should try bringing them up ourselves and they might turn out better
Couldn't sgree more. What with breakfast clubs, after school clubs etc being encouraged the schools and other such agencies are becoming the full time guardians of other people's offspring. Soon mothers will be giving birth on the front step of the school and collecting the kid when they've reached the age of 18! Then the'll still complain the schools aren't doing a good enough job! We always took responsibility for rearing and getting our two kids involved in worthwhile persutes to keep them off the streets and we were skint most of the time. Why can't other parents do the same?
Exactly my point above. Two nights a week, the odd weekend, and during holidays. I was a Sea Cadet during my youth, and still had quality time with my parents. Both made go on and enjoy a very good career.

Moreso in todays financial climate, some parents have to keep working to ensure that they maintain a stable life for their children. So giving them the chance to do something with other kids in an authorised environment is better than having them roaming around the streets up to what ever.


laurie marsh, australia says...
11:09am Sun 10 Aug 08


Hoppity,
Spot on!
I have seen first hand the "benefits" of sending a kid into an environment of a "summer camp".
For "summer camp" read dumping ground!
It is o.k. for the kids that are the "leaders of the pack" but for the shy or quiet kids life is absolute hell!
When I was sent I was a "middle of the pack" type of kid so it was not too bad but some of those other poor kids were bullied unmercifully!

hoppity, hamworthy says...
12:15pm Sun 10 Aug 08

Christopher wrote:
chatterbox wrote:
hoppity wrote: whats with getting rid of our kids all the time, nurseries, summer camnps, after school groups , maybe we should try bringing them up ourselves and they might turn out better
Couldn't sgree more. What with breakfast clubs, after school clubs etc being encouraged the schools and other such agencies are becoming the full time guardians of other people's offspring. Soon mothers will be giving birth on the front step of the school and collecting the kid when they've reached the age of 18! Then the'll still complain the schools aren't doing a good enough job! We always took responsibility for rearing and getting our two kids involved in worthwhile persutes to keep them off the streets and we were skint most of the time. Why can't other parents do the same?
Exactly my point above. Two nights a week, the odd weekend, and during holidays. I was a Sea Cadet during my youth, and still had quality time with my parents. Both made go on and enjoy a very good career. Moreso in todays financial climate, some parents have to keep working to ensure that they maintain a stable life for their children. So giving them the chance to do something with other kids in an authorised environment is better than having them roaming around the streets up to what ever.
I agree joining a group is good I was a brownie myself, but leaving children for weeks on end is not I think beneficial a short time yes and I fully agree about the sea scouts my friends daughter had a wonderful time with them and long may they continue. Its just that I know of people who send their children to day nurseries 5 days a week even though they do not work and whilst it encourages interaction and social skills sometimes I believe quality time with mum or dad is better.

Raymond, Springbourne says...
1:43pm Mon 11 Aug 08

If you are after Summer Camps at affordable prices, why not try your local Scout Group. The 6th Bournemouth (St. George's) Scout Troop have two camps in the last 2 weeks of August. £125 a week (6 nights)Indoor accommodation, all meals provided and activities including; kayaking, abseiling, climbing, archery, canoeing, swimming, air rifle, rafting, orienteering, hike,
introduction to survival, football, rounders, volleyball and team challenges. For more details email the Camp Leader:
Raymond@beekonline.c
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carlyd, bournemouth says...
11:28pm Thu 14 Aug 08

However, if you are after a summer camp for free why not set up in King's Park, Redhill Park or some other public place?

Activities include how to break through a gate, plough through other forms of barracade, cause as much litter and other pollution as possible, and life skills such as (very)thin tarmaccing, selling clothes pegs, playing the victim and buying brand new vehicles for cash without facing the money-laundering accusations that tax payers face when trying to do the same.


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BUILDING A RAFT: Children at Prayerhouse Summer Camp, Moonfleet, last summer BUILDING A RAFT: Children at Prayerhouse Summer Camp, Moonfleet, last summer

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