Lazy Council workers(apart from the bin men), they have no grounds for a payrise whats so ever. The sheer cheek of them whilst my council tax goes up 5% they get protected pensions, unlimited sickness leave, short work days and felixy time. They are taking the ****! get back to work you bunch of freeloader or try working in the real world/private sector. It aint rocket science if you dont like it your pay then get another job!

Dont really agree with the comment made by you Fishman, as a council worker myself i work very hard dealing with the general public , and have to suffer a lot of verbal abuse on a daily basis , although i myself am not on strike today (as i cannot afford to do without a days pay) i do find it strange odd taht there is so much vitriol and abuse thrown at council workers,as funnily enough i have to pay my Council Tax as well , and i am also finding it very hard to get by financially at the moment. It just seems very fashionable at the moment for everyone to have a go at council workers !!! And yes i have worked in the private sector as well !

Isn't amazing how short memories are. I was not so long ago that over a third of local authority workers had to take massive pay cuts under what was laughing called job evaluation. Lots of support from the public then and a lot of resignations from Unison for their lack of support against the pay cuts.

Realist wrote:
Dont really agree with the comment made by you Fishman, as a council worker myself i work very hard dealing with the general public , and have to suffer a lot of verbal abuse on a daily basis , although i myself am not on strike today (as i cannot afford to do without a days pay) i do find it strange odd taht there is so much vitriol and abuse thrown at council workers,as funnily enough i have to pay my Council Tax as well , and i am also finding it very hard to get by financially at the moment. It just seems very fashionable at the moment for everyone to have a go at council workers !!! And yes i have worked in the private sector as well !

Realist, I did not get a pay rise this year so why should council workers get one when I effectively pay your wages and have to pay the same increased energy and food bills like you! The real risk is that inflation will rise at an uncontrollable rate coupled with forthcoming interest rate rises too. Secondarily if I’m working a 60-70 hour week with little to no job security and a non existent pension I do not buying into your rights to have a inflation busting pay rise when you only work a 7hour day at best and only 4 ½ days in a working week including a protected pension and cushy sickness entitlement.

Interestingly since you are likely to be at work? you seem to have enough time at to post mail on this forum, enough said! I would suggest if you want more money either get a new job or get a second job like of us in the real world!

Fishman68 wrote:

Realist wrote: Dont really agree with the comment made by you Fishman, as a council worker myself i work very hard dealing with the general public , and have to suffer a lot of verbal abuse on a daily basis , although i myself am not on strike today (as i cannot afford to do without a days pay) i do find it strange odd taht there is so much vitriol and abuse thrown at council workers,as funnily enough i have to pay my Council Tax as well , and i am also finding it very hard to get by financially at the moment. It just seems very fashionable at the moment for everyone to have a go at council workers !!! And yes i have worked in the private sector as well !

Realist, I did not get a pay rise this year so why should council workers get one when I effectively pay your wages and have to pay the same increased energy and food bills like you! The real risk is that inflation will rise at an uncontrollable rate coupled with forthcoming interest rate rises too. Secondarily if I’m working a 60-70 hour week with little to no job security and a non existent pension I do not buying into your rights to have a inflation busting pay rise when you only work a 7hour day at best and only 4 ½ days in a working week including a protected pension and cushy sickness entitlement. Interestingly since you are likely to be at work? you seem to have enough time at to post mail on this forum, enough said! I would suggest if you want more money either get a new job or get a second job like of us in the real world!

Interestingly enough for someone who works 60 to 70 hours per week you still have enough time to post twice on this thread.

genghis wrote:

Fishman68 wrote:

Realist wrote: Dont really agree with the comment made by you Fishman, as a council worker myself i work very hard dealing with the general public , and have to suffer a lot of verbal abuse on a daily basis , although i myself am not on strike today (as i cannot afford to do without a days pay) i do find it strange odd taht there is so much vitriol and abuse thrown at council workers,as funnily enough i have to pay my Council Tax as well , and i am also finding it very hard to get by financially at the moment. It just seems very fashionable at the moment for everyone to have a go at council workers !!! And yes i have worked in the private sector as well !

Realist, I did not get a pay rise this year so why should council workers get one when I effectively pay your wages and have to pay the same increased energy and food bills like you! The real risk is that inflation will rise at an uncontrollable rate coupled with forthcoming interest rate rises too. Secondarily if I’m working a 60-70 hour week with little to no job security and a non existent pension I do not buying into your rights to have a inflation busting pay rise when you only work a 7hour day at best and only 4 ½ days in a working week including a protected pension and cushy sickness entitlement. Interestingly since you are likely to be at work? you seem to have enough time at to post mail on this forum, enough said! I would suggest if you want more money either get a new job or get a second job like of us in the real world!

Interestingly enough for someone who works 60 to 70 hours per week you still have enough time to post twice on this thread.

Lol,

Yes a new thing called time management and using mulitiple window tabs on my work platform. You council workers could learn a thing or two!

So if our bins are not emptied in the Park District, does that mean the rubbish stays put for another two weeks in the hottest months of the year? Is there a public health issue here? Look out for some tubby rodents around the district.

Like a lot of people in the private sector I won't be getting a pay rise this year.Council workers get "stick" from the public because they finnish work early on Friday,they get a huge pension at tax payers cost.And they are "allowed" so many sick days a year.NOT what most people in the private sector get.

The waste services are running as normal as it is external contractors that collect the waste. Yet again the echo have published incorrect information.

I'm echoing weymouthfox here. I've read the guidance on the WPBC website, and it looks like that I won't see my green bin empied for another two weeks - that's ONE COLLECTION THIS MONTH.

I don't care if it's the council or the union's fault, that's just not good enough.

That is only guidance. Waste services are running as normal as per previous comment.

I will post no more as as a council worker i seem to be subject to abuse from all quarters , but i and may of my colleagues do not finish early on fridays !! but as fishman and others seem to despise council workers so much! and if anyone coud see the pension i will get, its is most certainly not huge !!

I work in one of the local authorities in this area. As, with most here, we passed through the picket line, mainly due to the fact that very few are actually union members.

Only 1 in 20 in my office is on strike and it's significant that the GMB aren't on strike. Support round here is definitely not strong.

Don't worry realist, as council workers we are of course allowed to be abused, because everyone pays our wages !!! never heard that on before.

I will post no more as as a council worker i seem to be subject to abuse from all quarters , but i and may of my colleagues do not finish early on fridays !! but as fishman and others seem to despise council workers so much! and if anyone coud see the pension i will get, its is most certainly not huge !!

Pension may not be huge but it's more than a lot of people get and you must have picked the wrong dept if you don't a POETS every friday.

Realist, as a matter of fact I do not despise any council worker, to the contrary my first post enforces my ongoing support for the Bin men who do a great job. However what I do dislike is the attitude of certain unions who believe it is there god given right to claim more money than what is available! All given it is the tax payer who will cough up the extra monies that is needed at a time when we are all feeling the pinch!

Fishman68 wrote:
Lazy Council workers(apart from the bin men), they have no grounds for a payrise whats so ever. The sheer cheek of them whilst my council tax goes up 5% they get protected pensions, unlimited sickness leave, short work days and felixy time. They are taking the ****! get back to work you bunch of freeloader or try working in the real world/private sector. It aint rocket science if you dont like it your pay then get another job!

Fishman68, for soembody who claims not to despise council workers, you sure take an aggressive stance! You also complain of having to work a 60-70 hour week- perhaps it is you that should get another job!

Weymouth Mouth. wrote:

Fishman68 wrote: Lazy Council workers(apart from the bin men), they have no grounds for a payrise whats so ever. The sheer cheek of them whilst my council tax goes up 5% they get protected pensions, unlimited sickness leave, short work days and felixy time. They are taking the ****! get back to work you bunch of freeloader or try working in the real world/private sector. It aint rocket science if you dont like it your pay then get another job!

Fishman68, for soembody who claims not to despise council workers, you sure take an aggressive stance! You also complain of having to work a 60-70 hour week- perhaps it is you that should get another job!

Ha Ha, Weymouth Mouth,

Yeah, perhaps I should work for the council and work on my tan whilst standing-outside on strike! At least I would have a half decent pension and plenty of spare time!

Fishman68 wrote:

Weymouth Mouth. wrote:

Fishman68 wrote: Lazy Council workers(apart from the bin men), they have no grounds for a payrise whats so ever. The sheer cheek of them whilst my council tax goes up 5% they get protected pensions, unlimited sickness leave, short work days and felixy time. They are taking the ****! get back to work you bunch of freeloader or try working in the real world/private sector. It aint rocket science if you dont like it your pay then get another job!

Fishman68, for soembody who claims not to despise council workers, you sure take an aggressive stance! You also complain of having to work a 60-70 hour week- perhaps it is you that should get another job!

Ha Ha, Weymouth Mouth, Yeah, perhaps I should work for the council and work on my tan whilst standing-outside on strike! At least I would have a half decent pension and plenty of spare time!

Well what are you waiting for then?

Fishman68 wrote:

Weymouth Mouth. wrote:

Fishman68 wrote: Lazy Council workers(apart from the bin men), they have no grounds for a payrise whats so ever. The sheer cheek of them whilst my council tax goes up 5% they get protected pensions, unlimited sickness leave, short work days and felixy time. They are taking the ****! get back to work you bunch of freeloader or try working in the real world/private sector. It aint rocket science if you dont like it your pay then get another job!

Fishman68, for soembody who claims not to despise council workers, you sure take an aggressive stance! You also complain of having to work a 60-70 hour week- perhaps it is you that should get another job!

Ha Ha, Weymouth Mouth, Yeah, perhaps I should work for the council and work on my tan whilst standing-outside on strike! At least I would have a half decent pension and plenty of spare time!

It beats spending all day posting messages then having to increase your "working" week to 60-70 hours to catch up on the work you should have been doing. :-)

Some of these workers get paid just above the National Minimum Wage, around £ 6.00 per hour. A lot are women and part time. A rise of 2 or 3 % to these amounts is a pittance. I agree that there are a lot of fat cats working in the council but they are in the minority. Whilst I do not agree with strikes, they are legal. For those people who are self employed and complain about no holidays etc, work in the Public Sector then you would get them. I recently had an estimate from a self employed plumber for some work, he wanted to charge me £ 45.00 per hour. I would have to work over 7 hours to pay for one of his! He told me he had put his hourly rate up by £ 5 per hour to cover the rise in the cost of living. Public Sector workers do not have that luxury.

genghis, thanks for you concern for my working hours you will be pleased to know that I am on holiday today, and sharing my time off with the Council lot on strike!

Realist wrote:
I will post no more as as a council worker i seem to be subject to abuse from all quarters , but i and may of my colleagues do not finish early on fridays !! but as fishman and others seem to despise council workers so much! and if anyone coud see the pension i will get, its is most certainly not huge !!

It's about time the critics got their facts right about Council pensions. They don't seem to realise that 12% of councils workers salary is deducted to pay for these pensions, and the deduction is taken before tax and N.I. It should also be noted that any pensions paid to retired officers is taxed at the standard rate.

Let's be realistic, if SOME council employees do strike will we really notice?

Realist, I did not get a pay rise this year so why should council workers get one when I effectively pay your wages and have to pay the same increased energy and food bills like you! The real risk is that inflation will rise at an uncontrollable rate coupled with forthcoming interest rate rises too. Secondarily if I’m working a 60-70 hour week with little to no job security and a non existent pension I do not buying into your rights to have a inflation busting pay rise when you only work a 7hour day at best and only 4 ½ days in a working week including a protected pension and cushy sickness entitlement.

It’s pretty sorry state of affairs when people who don’t earn much are attacking other people who don’t earn much when they try for a very moderate increase in earnings. A meagre increase in the region of 50p -£1per week on the current wage.
Do you really blame them for asking for such an increase or wanting reasonable conditions a pension and a wage because you think you are not getting one? Wouldn’t it be more beneficial if you and you’re colleagues got organised and asked for a reasonable wage and conditions rather than trying to pull others down for trying?
As for rising inflation and interest rate rises aren’t those the result of the behaviour of reckless chancers in the banking world.? They privatised their profits and socialised their loses just as they always do.
Some hope, but its about time people got organised and did something about that since it matters a lot more to a lot more people.

Fisherman. Is that really 70 hours work you do or is it really 30 hours and the other 40 is spent whingeing about how hard you work

Local wrote:
Fisherman. Is that really 70 hours work you do or is it really 30 hours and the other 40 is spent whingeing about how hard you work

Good god, don't tell me he was lying when he said he didn't work for the council ?

Jealous that council workers may get a rise and you in the private sector will not? Then join a trade union and fight for decent pay.
You pay for their rise through council tax. I pay for your wages and rise every time I buy something in the private sector. Where do you think your wages come from ? The sky?
Wage increases = price increases? Don't fall for that one. I have heard it all my life. Food and utilities up in price. Is that caused by the high wages of migrant farm workers, pump attendants and council workers?
Check out the profits of the banks, oil companies, city speculators and food manufacturers.
If you want to get personal in your comment, I will save you some trouble. I am a 63 year old painter and decorator and live in a rough old area of South London. I was thinking of retiring to Dorset. Not sure of the neighbours now though!