Mr Bentley maintains that the Holy Spirit turns up at his meetings and miracles happen on a scale that many are calling a "revival".

BR, Bournemouth writes:

I suspect that these topics have caused you (BournPosh) some pain but have to ask why you blame God for these? We can feed the world we could probably also cure cancer if tried hard enough and made some "lifestyle" changes. But we choose not to.

only 2 weeks ago friends of mine prayed for a lady who has'nt walked for 15 years unaided, now she can walk fine, its all about faith, if you don't believe it, it will never happen to you.

nwellsy wrote:
faith is what you need. check out more for over miracles happening in bournemouth at www.tftk.net only 2 weeks ago friends of mine prayed for a lady who has'nt walked for 15 years unaided, now she can walk fine, its all about faith, if you don't believe it, it will never happen to you.

MarcusD wrote:

BR, Bournemouth writes: I suspect that these topics have caused you (BournPosh) some pain but have to ask why you blame God for these? We can feed the world we could probably also cure cancer if tried hard enough and made some "lifestyle" changes. But we choose not to.

When God sends earthquakes and tsunamis that slaughter hundreds of thousands of men, women and children, can we blame him then?

the owl wrote:
Dear evangelist, Please say a prayer for our League team AFCB. We need God's help for a new chairman and manager and about 14 players . Thank you. Theodore Low age 73 at Bere Regis .

RichT wrote:
To all those who are cynical about these kind of things, I recommend you tune into the Florida Revival programmes showing at the moment on God TV or even on their website. I believe there really is some amazing and genuine stuff happening at the moment.

Phil wrote:

nwellsy wrote: faith is what you need. check out more for over miracles happening in bournemouth at www.tftk.net only 2 weeks ago friends of mine prayed for a lady who has'nt walked for 15 years unaided, now she can walk fine, its all about faith, if you don't believe it, it will never happen to you.

If you don't believe it, at least you won't get conned out of your life savings. All these evangelists want is your hard cash. Conmen, the lot of them.

free wessex wrote:
Well Ruth Oliver has just seen her credible journalistic career go west and why no close up photo of the miraculous molars? beware the devil and all his works.. last time the Echo had a silly supernatural story was...Anyone remember the strange events of Abbot Road Winton things that went bump in the night?

Phil wrote:

nwellsy wrote: faith is what you need. check out more for over miracles happening in bournemouth at www.tftk.net only 2 weeks ago friends of mine prayed for a lady who has'nt walked for 15 years unaided, now she can walk fine, its all about faith, if you don't believe it, it will never happen to you.

If you don't believe it, at least you won't get conned out of your life savings. All these evangelists want is your hard cash. Conmen, the lot of them.

Beaker wrote:
Todd Bentley... Permission to say c*ck!

Tigger wrote:
Why not come and check out our local revival meeting at the Boscombe Salvation Army building this Friday at 7pm. Full details can be found at www.tftk.net See you there!!!

Jerry wrote:
Just want to know... Why were these women (can't call them "Ladies" unless they hold a Title, not PC you see) praying for a "sign" in the first place? Did they actually want gold teeth or did they want God, in some shape or form, to reveal Himself to them and only them?

What sort of "sign" were they expecting, I wonder.

I don't think even the Pope can claim to have had a true and direct message from Him.

PETE WOODLEY wrote:

free wessex wrote: Well Ruth Oliver has just seen her credible journalistic career go west and why no close up photo of the miraculous molars? beware the devil and all his works.. last time the Echo had a silly supernatural story was...Anyone remember the strange events of Abbot Road Winton things that went bump in the night?

YES i do remember,but did you know about the ghost at 13 gresham rd,i do i lived there,i didnt think this thread was about ghosts,but while i believe in ghosts,i d not in miracles.

John wrote:

PETE WOODLEY wrote:

free wessex wrote: Well Ruth Oliver has just seen her credible journalistic career go west and why no close up photo of the miraculous molars? beware the devil and all his works.. last time the Echo had a silly supernatural story was...Anyone remember the strange events of Abbot Road Winton things that went bump in the night?

YES i do remember,but did you know about the ghost at 13 gresham rd,i do i lived there,i didnt think this thread was about ghosts,but while i believe in ghosts,i d not in miracles.

Ruth Oliver
Get round to PETE WOODLEY as soon as possible now that he is prepared to reveal his old haunts!
Now, there is a story for you to get your teeth into! God knows where it will lead you to!!

Spitfire wrote:
When will mankind wake up and realise they are being fooled by the biggest con in the planets history. Yep religion. There is no God, Allah, Buddah etc. If people put their beliefs into something worthwhile like care of the planet the whole world would be a nicer place. Would probably stop a lot of wars happening.

PokesdownMark wrote:
Who are they harming? These kind of fraudulent faith healers do a great deal of harm. They give people false hope and can also discourage proper medical intervention. As always in these cases there are only three possibilities. The people involved are either frauds, deluded or genuine. Take your pick. But remember, there has never been a single proven case of any kind of supernatural miracle. Never. Not a single one. There is a one million dollar prize for the first proven case. But don't expect this pair to be in a hurry to claim it.

Mike Pickering wrote:
What a sham. These 2 women have dreamed up this 'miracle' of gold teeth, each, in a vain attempt to show as proof the entity in which they have 'faith'. Surely if this is true, as they propose, then faith is no longer necessary, and we should take this as a priori evidence that that there is indeed a supernatural entity that created us, the universe and everything in it, and who hears our every thoughts, waiting for us to achieve this 'faith' (no longer necessary), so that we can acknowledge our failings in light of his ultimate goodness. The fact is that it would be a logical fallacy to conclude anything of the sort from the appearance of these teeth other than the seemingly endless lengths to which the 'faithful' will try to collude and conspire and persuade anyone who doesn't share their point of view. It's not that the rest of us don't understand what you believe, we really do - it's not rocket science, it's that we just DON'T BELIEVE IT. If you want to play this game, by all means go ahead and give it all you've got, I nor anyone else has any right to stop you. Repackage the basic human instincts of kindness and regard for fellow man in the form of 'divine revelation of morality' and give to the poor, comfort the sick, etc, but be mindful of the fact that those of us who do not believe in your god carry out these acts all the time, and never in the hope that it serves anything than it's own purpose. Don't ask us for tax breaks because you have bandied and organised and called yourselves a church or a religion, and we won't ask for any money from you. Don't take your beliefs to an extreme such that you would kill or injure other people based on their peaceful accordance with a belief system other than yours, and we won't persecute you based on your beliefs either. So no crusades, no suicide bombings, no knocking on my door at 10 oclock on a Sunday morning. After the increasingly heated 'discussion' we had the last time, I doubt you'll be bothering again, but please leave the neighbors alone too.

Jesusislord wrote: As regard to God bringing earthquakes and the such like, wrong, God gives life, its the devil that comes to rob, steal and destroy. Yet I hear no one blame the devil, it was the devil who tempted Eve in the garden of Eden, and now He is robbing you!

silver1 wrote:
If you read the full article on the front page of echo it is more detailed,giving this deception high profile it doesn't deserve. Terrible feature.

Carl Barron wrote:

Posted by: silver1, bournemouth on 12:15am today

Quote God can make a difference your life. Editor this is harmful and dangerous stuff you covering, please no more.

Reply With all due respect silver1 .

Do not call upon the Echo Editors to edit out or close this thread, as the highest percentage of input are testifying that they do NOT Believe to hideous claim.

Before all your FREEDOM is clamped by Evil laws that prohibit your rights, take use of this small space in time to use wisely.

Evil cannot out wit a True Believer in the Creator, yet they're are None so Blind as those who Will Not See.

No Man or Woman is without sin, likewise there is no man or woman who is not beyond redemption if they choose to truly believe in the Creator of all things.

Since early times (so called) Holy Wars have been used as a weapon against others for the collection by force of material things, the latest being the War on Iraq for the collection of Oil, etc.

The New element (of Evil) is the so called Terrorist when in point of Fact Bush and Blair were the ultimate Terrorist of modern day times.

Now that same Evil enters the religious Band Wagon as said earlier.

In the balance of logic, there cannot be Evil without Good and vice versa. Hence Death, Destruction and Disasters of all types.

Andy_roo wrote:

silver1 wrote:
If you read the full article on the front page of echo it is more detailed,giving this deception high profile it doesn't deserve. Terrible feature.

Sorry, Prove its a deception. I have my concerns but i cant make such a know it all response

silver1 wrote:

Andy_roo wrote:

silver1 wrote: If you read the full article on the front page of echo it is more detailed,giving this deception high profile it doesn't deserve. Terrible feature.

Sorry, Prove its a deception. I have my concerns but i cant make such a know it all response

The teaching this guy brings is not in line with the Bible as it claims to be. Have done much research. That's good enough for me. Most church leaders in the area are warning about this stuff.

Carl Barron wrote:
Quote my concern is that the evil this brings, can seduce others who with devastating consequences. Reply With all due respect silver1 . Lies and Deceit will always be uncovered given time . We live in modern day time, where both man and woman are more educated unlike more primitive times. Have more faith silver1 and you may live to see.

Andy_roo wrote:

Carl Barron wrote:
Quote my concern is that the evil this brings, can seduce others who with devastating consequences. Reply With all due respect silver1 . Lies and Deceit will always be uncovered given time . We live in modern day time, where both man and woman are more educated unlike more primitive times. Have more faith silver1 and you may live to see.

Thats a silly statement more educated the bible is the same, when are we going yo have a new da vinci or aristotle

Andy_roo wrote:
CAn i say that the condemnation should not be with the woman, but with the journalist for thinking it is newsworthy. I personally think if god was involved he would not use Gold but a plain material.

Andy_roo wrote:
CAn i say that the condemnation should not be with the woman, but with the journalist for thinking it is newsworthy. I personally think if god was involved he would not use Gold but a plain material.

ALL SEEING EYE wrote:

Andy_roo wrote: CAn i say that the condemnation should not be with the woman, but with the journalist for thinking it is newsworthy. I personally think if god was involved he would not use Gold but a plain material.

Andy_roo (Smart) I think you would be making better use of your time by praying for AFCB instead of writing drivel on here.

silver1 wrote:

Andy_roo wrote:

Carl Barron wrote: Quote my concern is that the evil this brings, can seduce others who with devastating consequences. Reply With all due respect silver1 . Lies and Deceit will always be uncovered given time . We live in modern day time, where both man and woman are more educated unlike more primitive times. Have more faith silver1 and you may live to see.

Thats a silly statement more educated the bible is the same, when are we going yo have a new da vinci or aristotle

This could go on and on !! I have faith in God not man's education. Read and study the bible from cover to cover, everything we need is there. We live in a fallen world. Man is by nature sinful and needs a saviour to bring reconciliation back to God. John ch 3 v 16 vital. Have lived on both sides, thankfully on God's now. You'll have me preaching next !!!!!

Carl Barron wrote:
Posted by: Andy_roo on 11:50am today Quote more educated the bible is the same, when are we going yo have a new da vinci or aristotle Reply Most existing Bibles have little relevance to fact , as in the space of time, all Parchments, New Testaments etc, have been adjusted to suit man's own needs and desires. The Churches have played upon the Fears and weaknesses of mankind for self gain and dominance over others.

bmthstuff wrote:
Good stuff th the ladies for coming forward with this..... just think how Jesus must have felt being doubted by so many even with miracles as proof! i know for myself there is healing from god ive experienced it from being prayed for and for praying for others. good work!

PETE WOODLEY wrote:
I cant believe that over 33% believe in miracles,and i am not talking about AFCB.

Andy_roo wrote:

silver1 wrote:

Andy_roo wrote:

Carl Barron wrote: Quote my concern is that the evil this brings, can seduce others who with devastating consequences. Reply With all due respect silver1 . Lies and Deceit will always be uncovered given time . We live in modern day time, where both man and woman are more educated unlike more primitive times. Have more faith silver1 and you may live to see.

Thats a silly statement more educated the bible is the same, when are we going yo have a new da vinci or aristotle

This could go on and on !! I have faith in God not man's education. Read and study the bible from cover to cover, everything we need is there. We live in a fallen world. Man is by nature sinful and needs a saviour to bring reconciliation back to God. John ch 3 v 16 vital. Have lived on both sides, thankfully on God's now. You'll have me preaching next !!!!!

so you can't quote a church leader

Beaker wrote:
Todd Bentley... Permission to say c*ck!

muffin the mule wrote:

Tigger wrote: Why not come and check out our local revival meeting at the Boscombe Salvation Army building this Friday at 7pm. Full details can be found at www.tftk.net See you there!!!

NOW THERES A PLACE TO GO ON FRIDAY - THE WHOLE CONTENTS OF YOUR MOUTH WOULD BE OVER THE COUNTER AT 'CASH CONVERTORS' BEFORE YOU HEARD THE FIRST HALLALULA

Andy_roo wrote:
Silver my views may not be disimilar to yours but i dont think you can say he is wrong as it makes you sound like carl barron who believes that if he uses words like Fact it must be.
Good word fact but often has little depth

cazz wrote:
if there is a god which there is not why are ther sick children ,and people are dying young ,think about it it a load of crap

Andy_roo wrote:

cazz wrote: if there is a god which there is not why are ther sick children ,and people are dying young ,think about it it a load of crap

!!! So a god would have it that we live for 70 years and drop dead, Hmmm. you are assuming life is better here!!!!

skysurfer wrote: They also deserve a newspaper with reporters that will do a proper investigative job on their claims . . .

. . . There are a million questions but the Christian reporter doesn't seem capable of asking them and the Echo's follow up story consisted completely of anonymous quotes from this website!

bmthstuff wrote:
why do people believe in the supernatural as far as so they call ghosts are concerned but cannot accept god's work yes he works in mysterious ways and blesses people lavishly. its ok to ask, just think people need to seek before they accuse of not finding. surly in a most desperate of times you would cry out to god....so why can't you believe that in better times he isnt there. free choice is given to all but gifts are for those who choose to accept. god bless

why do people believe in the supernatural as far as so they call ghosts are concerned but cannot accept god's work

muffin the mule wrote:

bmthstuff wrote: why do people believe in the supernatural as far as so they call ghosts are concerned but cannot accept god's work yes he works in mysterious ways and blesses people lavishly. its ok to ask, just think people need to seek before they accuse of not finding. surly in a most desperate of times you would cry out to god....so why can't you believe that in better times he isnt there. free choice is given to all but gifts are for those who choose to accept. god bless

WELL IF ITS GIVE-AWAY TIME I'LL HAVE A LAMBORGHINI (EVEN A VERY SLIGHTLY RUSTY ONE WOULD BE OK IF HE CANT GET NEW)AND A PLOT OF LAND ON THE SANDBANKS THAT I CAN CASH IN IF I GET A BIT STRAPPED .....GOD IS THE BIGGEST MOST SUCCESSFUL CON EVER CONCIEVED AND CONGRATULATIONS FOR THAT ,BUT PROOF...EYES WIDE OPEN ..... THERE IS NONE - HOWEVER IF YOU CHOOSE TO BELIEVE THATS UP TO YOU .MANY MORE OF US SEE THE EVIL COMMITTED IN HIS NAME AND THAT LEAVES SCARS THAT BLIGHT OUR LIVES - RELIGION WILL DESTROY OUR WORLD . TRULLY A GOD WOULD NOT ALLOW IT

GAHmusic wrote:
Typical God. Instead of putting food in the mouths of starving children he's putting gold teeth in the mouth of housewifes.

Posted by: Carl Barron, Dorset on 10:01pm Thu 17 Jul 0
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Posted by: MarcusD:

Quote Why did the Daily Echo allow this preposterous story valuable front page space without even the most basic checks?

Reply Perhaps MarcusD The Echo Editors and reporters t thought that this news report as such, would gain much publicity and interest particularly in an Open Debate which indeed it has done, not just locally but Globally hence their decision has been validated by the Traffic flow into thier Web Site on this issue.

If you and a few others alike, wish to handcuff yourselves or blindfold yourselves to open discussion and FREEDOM of speech that is your prerogative OK?

Do not lambaste the Echo for providing a platform for open debate, for else one might think that you are against FREEDOM of open discussion

mum45 wrote:
Berean, Bournemouth and Silver 1 - sounds like we are on a similar wavelength. We are obviously those that heed the warning 'take care lest no-one decieve you'. There is a really good website you might enjoy called www.deceptionbytes.c om I personally have found nothing on it that I disagree with. Isnt it comforting to know that there are still discerning Christians?

Posted by: Andy_roo on 9:24am today

GAHmusic wrote:
Typical God. Instead of putting food in the mouths of starving children he's putting gold teeth in the mouth of housewifes.

What would you do without a scapegoat, Most of the hungry in the world is down to man and religion. Not God

GAHmusic wrote:
Hi all Me again. I just wish to point out I was being sarcastic, I don't believe god is real and your right it is just a scapegoat for the actions of man. I know the ladies concerned are just crackpots but it does raise the bigger issue of how religion manipulates the vunrable. As I have said before religion is the root of all evil

silver1 wrote:

GAHmusic wrote: Hi all Me again. I just wish to point out I was being sarcastic, I don't believe god is real and your right it is just a scapegoat for the actions of man. I know the ladies concerned are just crackpots but it does raise the bigger issue of how religion manipulates the vunrable. As I have said before religion is the root of all evil

Man manipulates, God doesn't.

laurie marsh wrote:
Pokesdown Mark, 2.46.
Quote: Happy, prosperous, safe such as the U.K.
????? Are you reading the same lot of comments that I am?
I suggest (with respect) that you take another look at the Echo website and re-comment!

Craigals wrote:
And where is your prove that GOD does not exist? Us humans were created by god the first humans adam and eve came from GOD, the earthquakes etc are around us all even on planets with no life form stop blaming god for natural disaters. GOD is 100% here

james wrote:
As a regular church going christian I obviously 100% believe in the power of God and that he does exist. However, it's that power that makes me skeptical about these claims. My God, the creator of all things, creating some gold teeth for some women. God does work in mysterious ways, but I can't see how this works at all. If God wanted to 'Get your attention' as stated in previous comments I'm sure he would not feel the need to use gold teeth and the Bournemouth Echo. He already has some great published work - namely, the Bible!! Speaking of the Bible - the best place to hear about 'mysterious works' and other miracles. This book has been around for thousands of years, working as a tool to bring people to Christ. I personally feel that this is the best place to look for inspiration, rather than a random story of gold teeth in the Bournemouth Echo?!