County flag idea snub
11:47am Thursday 12th June 2008
Comments (34)IDEAS for a new flag for Dorset have been snubbed by councils in the east of the county.
Bournemouth Borough Council has cited their historic links with Hampshire while Poole and Christchurch have also decided not to be involved at this stage.
Dorchester's Dave White, who launched the project with his own design, still hopes the flag will go ahead.
He said: "I'm very disappointed with Bournemouth Borough Council's response considering the town has now been part of Dorset for many years.
"Hankering after a past life with Hampshire certainly is not a particularly good excuse. If the people of Bournemouth choose to adopt the flag, then who are the council to stop them?"
Mr White contacted all three councils after Dorset County Council chairman John Peake stressed that discussions would have to involve Bournemouth and Poole.
Chief executive of Bournemouth Borough Council Pam Donnellan confirmed their decision. She said: "We already have strong historic links with both Hampshire to the east and Dorset to the west and we wish Dorset every success in this new initiative."
The Echo invited readers to send in their designs and they were forwarded on to the county council after Coun Peake said they were happy to move the project forward.
A Borough of Poole spokesman also referred to historical issues. He said: "The borough has a rich history dating back hundreds of years and was subject to a Royal Charter in 1568 which saw it named the county of the town of Poole and, therefore, separate from the county of Dorset.
"The council has no objections to the campaign for a Dorset flag however we feel that this issue is best pursued by our colleagues at Dorset County Council."
Sally Northeast, public relations manager at Dorset County Council, confirmed chief executive David Jenkins had spoken to both Bournemouth and Poole's councils and that they were not interested at the moment.
She said: "The issue for them is to do with the fact that they have quite a strong town identity from a tourism point of view. If the flag goes into production who knows what will happen."
John Gale, 71, will be flying Mr White's design at this year's West Dorset Vintage Stationary Engine and Tractors Club rally and thinks everyone in Dorset should support it.
He said: "Everybody should get together as it doesn't matter where you are in the county."
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NDH, Weymouth says...
1:27pm Thu 12 Jun 08
white43, Dorchester says...
1:46pm Thu 12 Jun 08
NDH wrote:The campaign for the Dorset Cross was indepdendent to the CC - this would have cost nothing to the tax payer. As for why we need a flag - time to get with the programme I think....
I don't see why we need a flag, it will just be a waste of tax payers money.
smokey, Weymouth says...
3:36pm Thu 12 Jun 08
flying the flag voluntarily and quite spontaneously the bureaucrats will have no option but to follow the wishes of the people.
I would urge you all to fly the flag and show the Cornish and those from Devon that we too are proud of our roots!
simon, Dorset says...
4:25pm Thu 12 Jun 08
white43, Dorchester says...
5:03pm Thu 12 Jun 08
simon wrote:So, the English can't get together under one flag - so sod all others? What an odd thought.
The English can't get together under a single flag so why worry about sodding around with a local one?
How'd that work out in Devon? No, I suggest we do have a flag for Dorset for this very reason.
As I've said to people before - just because you may want to be bah humbug about the whole thing - doesn't mean the rest of us can't pursue this and rejoice in it.
NDH, Weymouth says...
5:19pm Thu 12 Jun 08
white43 wrote:I don't mind if people want a flag, i've read most of the Echo articles covering the campaign but I don't understand when a flag would be used and by who?
NDH wrote: I don't see why we need a flag, it will just be a waste of tax payers money.The campaign for the Dorset Cross was indepdendent to the CC - this would have cost nothing to the tax payer. As for why we need a flag - time to get with the programme I think....
simon, Dorset says...
6:06pm Thu 12 Jun 08
All the important things needed and going on this is about as relevant and important as a Mcdonalds cheeseburger.
Flag? try spending time on something that everyone actually NEEDS!
white43, Dorchester says...
6:07pm Thu 12 Jun 08
but I don't understand when a flag would be used and by who?
Seriously. What?
white43, Dorchester says...
6:11pm Thu 12 Jun 08
simon wrote:
Next you will be wanting to devolve and have your own parliament! All the important things needed and going on this is about as relevant and important as a Mcdonalds cheeseburger. Flag? try spending time on something that everyone actually NEEDS!
Next you will be wanting to devolve and have your own parliament!
Preposterous! I never said such a thing. I personally want an English Parliament. Having a Dorset flag compliments the English flag.
Flag? try spending time on something that everyone actually NEEDS!
What are you doing per se? A few thousand people actually do want a flag judging by the comments on various sites - so who are you to tell us we can'? Stop taking things so seriously - it's a flag. You don't like it - don't buy it or fly it!
simon, Dorset says...
6:35pm Thu 12 Jun 08
A few thousand (un-proven as of yet)out of how many? 5.7 million in the South west anyway, most of whom are busy working and worrying about important things and don't give a hoot about it.
This just represents a pointless excercise in creating/changing things that are not important or really needed. Hence the refusal I guess.
white43, Dorchester says...
6:42pm Thu 12 Jun 08
702,000 people in Dorset mate - now we don't have to count Bournemouth and Poole many less.
Are you telling me you wouldn't be proud of someone from Dorset winning something in the Olympics 2012 flying a Dorset flag (as well as an English)?!?!??
It's fine - if you don't give a hoot - why bother to comment and don't try to marginalise something positive for the county.
DingDonG, Wilds of Wiltshire says...
7:12pm Thu 12 Jun 08
Let's have a Portland flag !
Lets have a 42 Arbuthnot Avenue flag..(apologies to the current resident of this most auspicious abode)
The skull & crossbones would be more appropriate for any local government building.
simon, Dorset says...
7:52pm Thu 12 Jun 08
P.S If anyone from Dorset won somethign in the Olympics I would fry my own crap and eat it. The people from Dorset will be LOSERS after these Olympics wait and see.
white43, Dorchester says...
7:56pm Thu 12 Jun 08
www.dorsetflag.co.uk
Wanna buy one?
JamesY, Dorchester says...
8:02pm Thu 12 Jun 08
white43 wrote:Ignore the naysayers, Dave. It's typical of the apathy of English people.
Already have done Simon -
www.dorsetflag.co.uk
Wanna buy one?
simon, Dorset says...
8:14pm Thu 12 Jun 08
If it is only for what White43 said and no political or religious ties as such then I don't see the harm in it.
pachyderm, marketing crap.com says...
8:35pm Thu 12 Jun 08
P.S If anyone from Dorset won somethign in the Olympics I would fry my own crap and eat it.simon..I'm booking the franchise for this idea as we blog..if you can provide your usual quantity and quality, we could put the **** up the usual burger vans !
simon, Liberal whiners land of rainbow boys says...
8:38pm Thu 12 Jun 08
pachyderm, nose in Chambers (dictionary, not judges!!) says...
9:02pm Thu 12 Jun 08
****for * * * * , read $ h 1 t e (censor missed the middle *
Could be on planet ARE SOLE?
simon, Dorset says...
9:11pm Thu 12 Jun 08
simon, Dorset says...
9:14pm Thu 12 Jun 08
white43, Dorchester says...
9:16pm Thu 12 Jun 08
simon wrote:Hey - that was uncalled for.
Change the colours though, Liberlist Yellow and Socialist red...YUK!
We use gold in recognition of Wessex, red and white(apart from being colours from the arms of DCC) as a reminder of England. Which is far from being liberal and socialist thank you very much.
I thought you might appreciate that as an English patriot.
simon, Dorset says...
9:22pm Thu 12 Jun 08
Seriously though the pictures make it look all very YELLOW , it could do with being a touch more "Gold" looking if it is meant to be gold.Apart form that it's okay.
After more thought though, if all the other counties etc have it I guess we should have one, I mean if it is meant only for competitive games, events and so forth then it could be the start of more things, who knows.
white43, Dorchester says...
9:26pm Thu 12 Jun 08
simon wrote:The first flags we got were a bit more yellow than we wanted and the newer ones are more golden. Also - bear in mind that PC monitors tend to display the JPEG images in different shades - my TFT at work shows it as bright yellow - my TFT at home shows a more mustardy gold. Same JPEG from the web though.
I'm pulling ya chain White43 :-) Seriously though the pictures make it look all very YELLOW , it could do with being a touch more "Gold" looking if it is meant to be gold.Apart form that it's okay. After more thought though, if all the other counties etc have it I guess we should have one, I mean if it is meant only for competitive games, events and so forth then it could be the start of more things, who knows.
It has no political affiliation and only a suggested religious(but not mandatory one).
It belongs to Dorset and hence the 'Dorset Cross'. So, we see it as a people's flag - made by us, for us. If DCC hadn't gotten involved - it would have stayed that way - but looking at it another way - I'm sure you all want a democratic choice of which flag represents you - so DCC are offering you that and hopefully you'll get it.
Peace out.
simon, Dorset says...
9:44pm Thu 12 Jun 08
DingDonG, Wilds of Wiltshire says...
9:52pm Thu 12 Jun 08
The only way to test this theory would be by each of you printing 702,001 of your own flags, give one to each resident, and see which one is up the pole next week.
To be politically correct, people from Poland could abstain, although it could be fun, if you like that sort of thing?
white43, Dorchester says...
9:57pm Thu 12 Jun 08
DingDonG wrote:The council have asked for submissions - I see 20-odd have gone into the Dorset Echo. The chief Vexillologist of the Flag Institute and a panel of people will select 4 of the best and put these to a public vote in a county wide publication.
Did I see the words "democratic choice" ??? The only way to test this theory would be by each of you printing 702,001 of your own flags, give one to each resident, and see which one is up the pole next week. To be politically correct, people from Poland could abstain, although it could be fun, if you like that sort of thing?
About the best you'll get mate. But you're not really that interested are you? Portland already has a flag so who cares?!?!
simon, Dorset says...
10:02pm Thu 12 Jun 08
Wait what the F*ck was that I just said?...HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Christ now I nwo I am mad!
DingDonG, Wilds of Wiltshire says...
10:16pm Thu 12 Jun 08
simon, Dorset says...
10:45pm Thu 12 Jun 08
techie, Weymouth says...
5:50pm Fri 13 Jun 08
P.S If anyone from Dorset won somethign in the Olympics I would fry my own crap and eat it
It's already been done, you utter, utter teed.
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/sport1/hi/olympics
_2004/sailing/360853
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blank, says...
12:03am Sat 14 Jun 08
simon wrote:Come off it when does a chugger like you need an excuse?
If anyone from Dorset won somethign in the Olympics I would fry my own crap and eat it.
Drain0, Dorset says...
10:28pm Thu 19 Jun 08
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Atalanta, says...
12:37pm Thu 12 Jun 08
urch did not become part of Dorset until 1974, and as the article correctly states, Poole was a town and county in its own right, why worry if they don't want to be part of it?
There's no reason why it can't go ahead without them and if they want to adopt it later that's up to them.