Is it time to consider charging the Woodland Trust with wasting public funds?

Well put, Nimrod. Hasn't this gone on long enough? Obviously the environment is important but if an alternative site, and a bigger one at that, is being offered, I think that's fair. I'm sure the people of Weymouth are sick and tired of all these delays.

Squinky: Not that I am taking the Woodland Trust's side on this, but quantity of land does not make up for the loss of quality woodland. I'm guessing that the Trust is holding out for the Council's best offer (as any of us would, if we were affected). Clearly an agreement can be reached to provide adequate compensation, perhaps planting a substantial number of native species? After all, providing new woodland is important too.

Enough of this nonsense , get around these objections by treating these woods as bio fuel!!!
This fits in with their green objectives, and eco friendly attitude? Wots wrong with that then.
Relief road now

The more objections the better.

For the love of god, just give them a large amount of decent land AND STOP TRYING IT ON.
Public Services, who'd have em???

What a surprise. I,v been saying all along that this road will never get built. And i still think that now. I,d love to know if any of these objectors actually sit in the queues of traffic.On an average day it takes me 35mins to travel 7 miles from Weymouth to Dorchester. Thats the equivelent of 12 miles per hour! It took me over an hour once to get to Dorchester, because of an accident.When will this end? Its been going on for years! Something needs to be done.

If there were decent job opportunities in the area, then people wouldn't have to leave weymouth to find work, but that won't happen as we haven't got any decent road infrastructure to get employers down here in the first instance. Or is it just going to become another gods waiting room?

i give up wrote:
If there were decent job opportunities in the area, then people wouldn't have to leave weymouth to find work, but that won't happen as we haven't got any decent road infrastructure to get employers down here in the first instance. Or is it just going to become another gods waiting room?

Or stuck in the traffic waiting to get to your own funeral-mustn't keep the crem waiting!

Don't worry pro roaders. Time and money aint the only thing to whinge about. If, god forbid, this white elephant ever gets the go ahead imagine my delight when the eco warriors descend to implement a touch of direct action. And I'll be joining them. Sugar in the petrol tank anyone?

swampysmate wrote:
Don't worry pro roaders. Time and money aint the only thing to whinge about. If, god forbid, this white elephant ever gets the go ahead imagine my delight when the eco warriors descend to implement a touch of direct action. And I'll be joining them. Sugar in the petrol tank anyone?

I'm sure we pro-roaders would also be happy at the opportunity to give these "eco warriors" the good kicking that they deserve.

Unfortunately, though, i suspect we are law abiding, so whilst these so called eco-warriors are trespassing on other people's land, obstructing lawful development and causing more congestion.

But i look forward to your green friends working out how many megatons of carbon will be released by the news crews and helicopters that will have to cover the story, not to mention their travel to the site. I am sure that in the best interests of the environment they will recognize that such profligate generation of CO2 is wasteful given that the battle will not be won.

Of course, if any more benefits offices close, then i doubt many of them will show up anyway.

swampysmate wrote:
Don't worry pro roaders. Time and money aint the only thing to whinge about. If, god forbid, this white elephant ever gets the go ahead imagine my delight when the eco warriors descend to implement a touch of direct action. And I'll be joining them. Sugar in the petrol tank anyone?

Have you seen the state of an area after it's been visited by these eco-warriors? It's nothing short of a pig sty crossed with an household waste infill site. They burn everything they can lay their hands on. Eco-friendly? Their anything but that.

Weymouth to Dorchester commuter wrote:
What a surprise. I,v been saying all along that this road will never get built. And i still think that now. I,d love to know if any of these objectors actually sit in the queues of traffic.On an average day it takes me 35mins to travel 7 miles from Weymouth to Dorchester. Thats the equivelent of 12 miles per hour! It took me over an hour once to get to Dorchester, because of an accident.When will this end? Its been going on for years! Something needs to be done.

I've got an idea!
We once had a power cut that lasted for an hour.
Let's campaign for a new power station.


Something does need to be done. It's called encouraging better public transport.

Can't be done? Look up the Six Towns report.


On top of that we have the new emissions reduction targets published today. And we all know that the new road will increase emissions, because DCC have done the maths and told us.

Hmmm! New roads, or more wind farms.?

"Ancient woodland is irreplaceable."

How very true. 2-faced Knight said exactly that when he posed in his DEFRA clothes.

Weymouth to Dorchester commuter wrote:
What a surprise. I,v been saying all along that this road will never get built. And i still think that now. I,d love to know if any of these objectors actually sit in the queues of traffic.On an average day it takes me 35mins to travel 7 miles from Weymouth to Dorchester. Thats the equivelent of 12 miles per hour! It took me over an hour once to get to Dorchester, because of an accident.When will this end? Its been going on for years! Something needs to be done.

Just as quick to cycle.

The more delays and spanners in the works of this massive disastrous plan the better!

Ancient woodland is irreplaceable."

So, why are we planting trees in the 21st century?
Glad people in the 15th,17th or 19th century thought otherwise.

plans for Weymouth's £84 million relief road.

Are these 21st or 23rd century prices?

Alan wrote:

Weymouth to Dorchester commuter wrote:
What a surprise. I,v been saying all along that this road will never get built. And i still think that now. I,d love to know if any of these objectors actually sit in the queues of traffic.On an average day it takes me 35mins to travel 7 miles from Weymouth to Dorchester. Thats the equivelent of 12 miles per hour! It took me over an hour once to get to Dorchester, because of an accident.When will this end? Its been going on for years! Something needs to be done.

I've got an idea!
We once had a power cut that lasted for an hour.
Let's campaign for a new power station.


Something does need to be done. It's called encouraging better public transport.

Can't be done? Look up the Six Towns report.


On top of that we have the new emissions reduction targets published today. And we all know that the new road will increase emissions, because DCC have done the maths and told us.

Hmmm! New roads, or more wind farms.?

The new road will reduce emissions by cars moving over 5mph.

This is what I don't get. It will actually do better for the environment in the long term.

what we need are tube trains -a few more tunnels , and trains every five minutes in a circular route!
then gradually extended to Wareham and Poole, Why not??

Get Lost Eco **** wrote:

Alan wrote:

Weymouth to Dorchester commuter wrote: What a surprise. I,v been saying all along that this road will never get built. And i still think that now. I,d love to know if any of these objectors actually sit in the queues of traffic.On an average day it takes me 35mins to travel 7 miles from Weymouth to Dorchester. Thats the equivelent of 12 miles per hour! It took me over an hour once to get to Dorchester, because of an accident.When will this end? Its been going on for years! Something needs to be done.

I've got an idea! We once had a power cut that lasted for an hour. Let's campaign for a new power station. Something does need to be done. It's called encouraging better public transport. Can't be done? Look up the Six Towns report. On top of that we have the new emissions reduction targets published today. And we all know that the new road will increase emissions, because DCC have done the maths and told us. Hmmm! New roads, or more wind farms.?

The new road will reduce emissions by cars moving over 5mph. This is what I don't get. It will actually do better for the environment in the long term.

The reason that you don't get it, is that you are relying upon false instinct rather than fact.

The perception is that if traffic is moving faster, then journey times are reduced.

For example, (and we've all done it)motorists sometimes leave a traffic jam to take longer alternative routes. They arrive at their destination no sooner, and have burned more fuel, but they feel better for having been able to keep moving.

Although it might be argued that (when there is no traffic jam in Weymouth blocking the Morrison's roundabout), traffic could move faster than along the Dorchester road. However, the additional length of road means that journey times are not that much less.

Also, cars travelling at a higher speed are not necessarily more fuel efficient.

DCC would love to believe you, and would be only too pleased for you to tell them where their maths (which will be checked by the Department for Transport)is wrong.

Localbusinessman wrote:

Get Lost Eco **** wrote:

Alan wrote:

Weymouth to Dorchester commuter wrote: What a surprise. I,v been saying all along that this road will never get built. And i still think that now. I,d love to know if any of these objectors actually sit in the queues of traffic.On an average day it takes me 35mins to travel 7 miles from Weymouth to Dorchester. Thats the equivelent of 12 miles per hour! It took me over an hour once to get to Dorchester, because of an accident.When will this end? Its been going on for years! Something needs to be done.

I\'ve got an idea! We once had a power cut that lasted for an hour. Let\'s campaign for a new power station. Something does need to be done. It\'s called encouraging better public transport. Can\'t be done? Look up the Six Towns report. On top of that we have the new emissions reduction targets published today. And we all know that the new road will increase emissions, because DCC have done the maths and told us. Hmmm! New roads, or more wind farms.?

The new road will reduce emissions by cars moving over 5mph. This is what I don\'t get. It will actually do better for the environment in the long term.

The reason that you don\'t get it, is that you are relying upon false instinct rather than fact. The perception is that if traffic is moving faster, then journey times are reduced. For example, (and we\'ve all done it)motorists sometimes leave a traffic jam to take longer alternative routes. They arrive at their destination no sooner, and have burned more fuel, but they feel better for having been able to keep moving. Although it might be argued that (when there is no traffic jam in Weymouth blocking the Morrison\'s roundabout), traffic could move faster than along the Dorchester road. However, the additional length of road means that journey times are not that much less. Also, cars travelling at a higher speed are not necessarily more fuel efficient. DCC would love to believe you, and would be only too pleased for you to tell them where their maths (which will be checked by the Department for Transport)is wrong.

I have walked in these woods and they are a mess. 8 years ago they were damaged by these eco warriors.
I work in Christchurch and the worst part of that commute is the Dorchester Rd on the way home.The last mile often takes 20min+. My car is polluting the area and yes I would love to work closer to home.

Dave, Why not take a train to Christchurch, there's a station near you called 'Upwey and Broadwey' or you could bike to Weymouth Station.

Dave,
As one who enjoys Two-Mile Coppice on a regular basis, I can say that the woods are not in a mess, though the main tracks have been churned by horse-riders have used them. However, that's not a problem unless the ground is very wet.

When you talk of the 'eco-warriors', I suspect that you are in fact talking about those who moved into Horselynch plantation.

But, and I note that you are from Broadwey and so have a vested interest in the proposed new road, I suspect that telling the truth is low on your list of priorities.

Dave,

A bit of lateral thinking is required.

If you want to work closer to home, why not move to Christchurch.

Better all round for everybody.

I believe the report is incorrect.

My understanding is that the Inspector asked DCC whether they had made asequate provision to replace the public access land that is Two-Mile Coppice. They hadn't, so are now offering woodland that they had previously promied to another landowner as mitigation for lost land.

Would you trust DCC? No sir, not me!
And I work for them!

Weymouth to Dorchester commuter wrote:
What a surprise. I,v been saying all along that this road will never get built. And i still think that now. I,d love to know if any of these objectors actually sit in the queues of traffic.On an average day it takes me 35mins to travel 7 miles from Weymouth to Dorchester. Thats the equivelent of 12 miles per hour! It took me over an hour once to get to Dorchester, because of an accident.When will this end? Its been going on for years! Something needs to be done.

look on the bright side you wont get a ticket for speeding then

piddlerpete wrote:

Weymouth to Dorchester commuter wrote: What a surprise. I,v been saying all along that this road will never get built. And i still think that now. I,d love to know if any of these objectors actually sit in the queues of traffic.On an average day it takes me 35mins to travel 7 miles from Weymouth to Dorchester. Thats the equivelent of 12 miles per hour! It took me over an hour once to get to Dorchester, because of an accident.When will this end? Its been going on for years! Something needs to be done.

look on the bright side you wont get a ticket for speeding then

PIDDLER P --
and a wit to boot!
Look now ,you people,
don't you get it???
You must know it is just one person under many different guises
protesting about this road on line. You can tell who is genuine by their sound chatter and well informed background ,but every anti in Wessex is probably stoned out of their brains, and hiding up a tree somewhere and screeching 'yeh man', with a snappy dog by his side, and equally snarly scary jewelled nosed girlfriend in tow, that why should they care anyway about comments , they just grunt and create mayhem!!!!
So everyone repeat now-
Relief Road Now!!!

The only people against this road are retired oap's and jobless eco warriors. RELIEF ROAD NOW!!!!!!!

James, I don't think that's strictly true, can you back up your claim?

oh yes sorry, I forgot the people who work in Weymouth!

Not stoned, not jobless, not an oap and not the same person as other anti road people on this site (hope that covers the points above) ...And also live a few yards form the Dorchester Road in Upwey and use it every day (and don't whinge about it). OK?

Can someone please tell me when the 'Woodland Trust' puchased the land they are trying to defend. If it was in the last 30years, then they were fully aware that, the land was in the path of a proposed 'relief road'.
Am I being cynical or what? about their motives.
Support the road and let's get on with it.