Store's war on parking cheats
8:36am Tuesday 15th January 2008
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PARKING cheats who misuse parent and child and disabled bays at Asda stores may have to add £40 to their shopping bills from today.
The retail giant is the first to introduce fines for those who leave shoppers in genuine need with nowhere to park.
The scheme will be regulated by private contractors and all profits given to baby charity Tommy's and disability charity Motability.
Bosses at Asda decided to introduce the scheme at all stores where it owns the car park after a successful trial in Liverpool.
Eight out of ten shoppers asked for their views said they believe it is the right thing to do.
Last May, Castlepoint bosses introduced £100 fines after repeated problems with the misuse of parking bays at the centre, particularly those for the disabled.
Since May, 800 drivers have been fined for parking in disabled bays at Castlepoint.
"At Asda we have decided to take a stand to keep specialised parking spaces available to those customers that need them," said customer service manager Paul Hedley.
"We are not handing out tickets to make a profit as money raised will go to charity. We would encourage anyone that manages a car park to take our lead."
A spokesman for Tommy's said: "A routine trip to the shops can turn into a nightmare for some parents when they don't have adequate parking spaces."
And a spokesman for Motability, which provides a car scheme for disabled people, added: "With the help of companies like Asda we can help to keep many more people independently mobile, something many of us take for granted."
At Asda St Paul's yesterday afternoon, all but one of the parent and child spaces on the upper deck were taken.
Michael House from Charminster, a father-of-two, said: "I think it is a good idea. I managed to get a parent and child space today, but I can't always get one. There are a lot of people who park here even if they haven't got children with them and they're often rude if you say anything to them."
And Greg Webb from Boscombe added: "It makes me really cross when I see people using disabled spaces who obviously aren't entitled to. I am quite happy to walk a bit further if it means genuinely disabled people can park near the shop."
A spokesman for Tesco said there are no current plans to introduce a similar scheme.
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JLC, here says...
8:53am Tue 15 Jan 08
Charlie, says...
9:05am Tue 15 Jan 08
derek, dorset says...
9:17am Tue 15 Jan 08
drive to your local farm , get fresh food , good quality and no carrier bags !.
P.S.
And a nice smile :-)
..ig34, says...
9:19am Tue 15 Jan 08
hes got day off 'raining'
philly, bournemouth says...
9:21am Tue 15 Jan 08
I also have a disabled husband who outwardly can look quite 'normal' sometimes, so please dont bring that old chestnut up again! :)
Geoff, Kinson says...
9:26am Tue 15 Jan 08
What a lazy ignorant lot they are !
Hope this scheme is a great success.
DavidR, Broadstone says...
9:26am Tue 15 Jan 08
PETE WOODLEY, says...
9:33am Tue 15 Jan 08
Geoff wrote:YOU are probably right,they are completely selfish.
These "parking cheats" are probably the same people who park on yellow lines outside schools !
What a lazy ignorant lot they are !
Hope this scheme is a great success.
Phil, Poole says...
9:58am Tue 15 Jan 08
Geoff, Kinson says...
9:58am Tue 15 Jan 08
PETE WOODLEY wrote:We are a selfish society though Pete !
Geoff wrote:YOU are probably right,they are completely selfish.
These "parking cheats" are probably the same people who park on yellow lines outside schools !
What a lazy ignorant lot they are !
Hope this scheme is a great success.
godzilla, hamworthy says...
10:05am Tue 15 Jan 08
derek wrote:sounds lovely but some families cannot afford the prices and they dont sell ecverything we need. I have looked at peoples cars especially to check if they have disabled badges of children with them. My husband and I have 3 car seats to carry the grand children but wouldn't dream of parking in the child spaces when not carrying the children, we are as commented by Geoff a selfish society these days although I like to hope not all of us.
I keep away from them all Tes,Asd,Som,Sai,Wai drive to your local farm , get fresh food , good quality and no carrier bags !. P.S. And a nice smile :-)
godzilla, hamworthy says...
10:06am Tue 15 Jan 08
ED, Soton says...
10:48am Tue 15 Jan 08
PETE WOODLEY, says...
10:50am Tue 15 Jan 08
ED wrote:SELFISH PRAT
There are far too many Disabled spaces in all Car Parks taking up valuable space for those that need it !!! - I have no problem with the Mother/Kids spaces as they get used but do we really need so many disabled bays - I think not...... How many people do you know who are so disabled they cant walk across a Car Park ?? - they seem to manage wandering around the shop ok....
Phil, Poole says...
10:52am Tue 15 Jan 08
ED wrote:I wondered how long it would be before someone brought up this old chestnut.
There are far too many Disabled spaces in all Car Parks taking up valuable space for those that need it !!! - I have no problem with the Mother/Kids spaces as they get used but do we really need so many disabled bays - I think not...... How many people do you know who are so disabled they cant walk across a Car Park ?? - they seem to manage wandering around the shop ok....
How come then that EVERY SINGLE TIME I have ever been to a supermarket car park I have managed to easily find a standard space without having to park in a disabled bay? There are always spaces available - so long as you're not TOO **** LAZY to walk from the far side of the car park, of course.
PETE WOODLEY, says...
10:52am Tue 15 Jan 08
ED wrote:SELFISH PRAT
There are far too many Disabled spaces in all Car Parks taking up valuable space for those that need it !!! - I have no problem with the Mother/Kids spaces as they get used but do we really need so many disabled bays - I think not...... How many people do you know who are so disabled they cant walk across a Car Park ?? - they seem to manage wandering around the shop ok....
ED, Soton says...
10:53am Tue 15 Jan 08
PETE WOODLEY wrote:Who rattled your crutches !!!....
ED wrote: There are far too many Disabled spaces in all Car Parks taking up valuable space for those that need it !!! - I have no problem with the Mother/Kids spaces as they get used but do we really need so many disabled bays - I think not...... How many people do you know who are so disabled they cant walk across a Car Park ?? - they seem to manage wandering around the shop ok....SELFISH PRAT
ED, Soton says...
10:56am Tue 15 Jan 08
Jo, xchurch says...
10:58am Tue 15 Jan 08
PETE WOODLEY wrote:ED, have you ever tried getting a wheelchair out of a car in a normal space? Or maybe getting crutches or walking aids out and back in when someone has parked stupidly close next to you?
ED wrote: There are far too many Disabled spaces in all Car Parks taking up valuable space for those that need it !!! - I have no problem with the Mother/Kids spaces as they get used but do we really need so many disabled bays - I think not...... How many people do you know who are so disabled they cant walk across a Car Park ?? - they seem to manage wandering around the shop ok....SELFISH PRAT
PETE WOODLEY, says...
11:01am Tue 15 Jan 08
ED wrote:Wait until you are a big boy,and know what being disabled is all about,we may be disabled but not brainless.
PETE WOODLEY wrote:Who rattled your crutches !!!....
ED wrote: There are far too many Disabled spaces in all Car Parks taking up valuable space for those that need it !!! - I have no problem with the Mother/Kids spaces as they get used but do we really need so many disabled bays - I think not...... How many people do you know who are so disabled they cant walk across a Car Park ?? - they seem to manage wandering around the shop ok....SELFISH PRAT
FletcherTheCat, The Sexy Beast says...
11:06am Tue 15 Jan 08
godzilla, hamworthy says...
11:06am Tue 15 Jan 08
ED wrote:ever heard of what goes around etc it may be you one day you silly selfish person
There are far too many Disabled spaces in all Car Parks taking up valuable space for those that need it !!! - I have no problem with the Mother/Kids spaces as they get used but do we really need so many disabled bays - I think not...... How many people do you know who are so disabled they cant walk across a Car Park ?? - they seem to manage wandering around the shop ok....
Jerry, poole, dorset says...
11:09am Tue 15 Jan 08
Phil wrote:The ultimate laziness... On-line shopping! I appreciate that many people use this method due to work commitments, disability, distance from the store and no transport, etc., but surely it is the ultimate in not having to park anywhere and walk even the shortest distance?
Parking in disabled bays when not entitled It's amazing what some selfish people will resort to, just to avoid walking a few extra yards. Maybe they should just have drive-thru supermarkets for these lazy, utterly selfish idiots - but even then they'd probably cut up other cars in the checkout queue!
ED, Soton says...
11:10am Tue 15 Jan 08
Jo wrote:Fair point Jo - hadnt thought of that - but I still think far too many disabled bays go unused for most of the week... sorry if that offends....
PETE WOODLEY wrote:ED, have you ever tried getting a wheelchair out of a car in a normal space? Or maybe getting crutches or walking aids out and back in when someone has parked stupidly close next to you?ED wrote: There are far too many Disabled spaces in all Car Parks taking up valuable space for those that need it !!! - I have no problem with the Mother/Kids spaces as they get used but do we really need so many disabled bays - I think not...... How many people do you know who are so disabled they cant walk across a Car Park ?? - they seem to manage wandering around the shop ok....SELFISH PRAT
& Peter - you really are tooooooo easy to wind up - lol
Jerry, poole, dorset says...
11:15am Tue 15 Jan 08
ED wrote:I came up with this type of statement a while ago. I saw the error of my thinking then.
There are far too many Disabled spaces in all Car Parks taking up valuable space for those that need it !!! - I have no problem with the Mother/Kids spaces as they get used but do we really need so many disabled bays - I think not...... How many people do you know who are so disabled they cant walk across a Car Park ?? - they seem to manage wandering around the shop ok....
Some disabled need space to actually open the doors wide enough to get in and out of the car. Also, to get out wheelchairs and/or walking aids without damaging adjacent vehicles.
The slow trek to the store itself if horrible in inclement weather if they cannot park close to it.
Yes, they still have to get around the store itself, but at least it's fairly flat and dry once inside.
Jerry, poole, dorset says...
11:17am Tue 15 Jan 08
RichT, Christchurch says...
11:28am Tue 15 Jan 08
I agree with Pete's comments too!
..ig34, says...
11:42am Tue 15 Jan 08
........What a shocking thing to say,I can't believe any body would say such a thing.
dibbles, Bournemouth says...
12:03pm Tue 15 Jan 08
denis, bournemouth says...
12:04pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Munkstar, Bournemouth says...
12:04pm Tue 15 Jan 08
..ig34, says...
12:06pm Tue 15 Jan 08
DONT FEED THE TROLLS
DONT TAKE THE BAIT
GOOD ON YA
Terry can sort em hes brilliant
Ian, Blandford says...
12:18pm Tue 15 Jan 08
JLC, here says...
12:22pm Tue 15 Jan 08
..ig34 wrote:Terry ran away when proved to be a nincompoop.
Pete woodley DONT FEED THE TROLLS DONT TAKE THE BAIT GOOD ON YA Terry can sort em hes brilliant
It's true though. Does Tesco's really need 45 disabled parking spaces? Have you ever seen them all filled?
munchkin, corfe Mullen says...
12:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Phil, Poole says...
12:24pm Tue 15 Jan 08
JLC wrote:45 disabled spaces out of several hundred? Doesn't seem that many to me.
..ig34 wrote:Terry ran away when proved to be a nincompoop.
Pete woodley DONT FEED THE TROLLS DONT TAKE THE BAIT GOOD ON YA Terry can sort em hes brilliant
It's true though. Does Tesco's really need 45 disabled parking spaces? Have you ever seen them all filled?
And so what if they're not all filled most of the time. They are there for peak periods. And if it's not a peak period, there's still no excuse for able-bodied people to park in them since there should be plenty of other spaces available!
PokesdownMark, Pokesdown says...
12:25pm Tue 15 Jan 08
(and tesco, adsa etc...)
Not legally enforcable and they would not dare risk a test case. There are the equivalent of: "we don't like you for paking in that space so please give us £40 (pretty please)".
Saying that... I certainly do NOT condone use of disabled spaces. I do think there are often so many that this cheapens them to the point where people think its ok to use one. They justify it to themselves. (Like late evening at Castlepoint.) I also think the mother and child spaces are badly understood. I stopped using these when my youngest no longer needed a push chair and assistance getting in and out. Thats the only reason for these spaces, when assisting a child needs the extra width from a fully open car door.
Plus this charity donation sounds fishy to me. Usually all the money goes to the contracted parking enforcement firm. So how much are they donating? I would not be surprised if its 50p or less! Typical abuse of "charidee mate".
Phil, Poole says...
12:27pm Tue 15 Jan 08
PokesdownMark wrote:I disagree. The car park is the supermarket's private property and so they're entitled to stop anyone parking on it and can have them clamped if necessary.
These are not real fines, these are M&S fines!
(and tesco, adsa etc...)
Not legally enforcable and they would not dare risk a test case. There are the equivalent of: "we don't like you for paking in that space so please give us £40 (pretty please)".
Saying that... I certainly do NOT condone use of disabled spaces. I do think there are often so many that this cheapens them to the point where people think its ok to use one. They justify it to themselves. (Like late evening at Castlepoint.) I also think the mother and child spaces are badly understood. I stopped using these when my youngest no longer needed a push chair and assistance getting in and out. Thats the only reason for these spaces, when assisting a child needs the extra width from a fully open car door.
Plus this charity donation sounds fishy to me. Usually all the money goes to the contracted parking enforcement firm. So how much are they donating? I would not be surprised if its 50p or less! Typical abuse of "charidee mate".
Phil, Poole says...
12:35pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Ian wrote:So what? Why shouldn't matters be improved? Our ancestors never had computers - in which case why the heck are you using one, you big jessie?
How my heart bleeds for the current crop of parents. We never had parent & child places when my kids were young, and I'm talking late eighties. suck it up and get on with it
JLC, here says...
12:37pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Phil wrote:So what's the percenatge of people who are unable to walk from the car to the door of the supermarket? Or those who need extra room to get out?
JLC wrote:45 disabled spaces out of several hundred? Doesn't seem that many to me. And so what if they're not all filled most of the time. They are there for peak periods. And if it's not a peak period, there's still no excuse for able-bodied people to park in them since there should be plenty of other spaces available!..ig34 wrote: Pete woodley DONT FEED THE TROLLS DONT TAKE THE BAIT GOOD ON YA Terry can sort em hes brilliantTerry ran away when proved to be a nincompoop. It's true though. Does Tesco's really need 45 disabled parking spaces? Have you ever seen them all filled?
Jerry, poole, dorset says...
12:37pm Tue 15 Jan 08
PokesdownMark wrote:The parking control would be done by an outside company, to show non-bias. The rules would be set, conditions and penalties advertised, and the clamping/fining done independantly. Just like any other business or property owner does.
These are not real fines, these are M&S fines! (and tesco, adsa etc...) Not legally enforcable and they would not dare risk a test case. There are the equivalent of: "we don't like you for paking in that space so please give us £40 (pretty please)". Saying that... I certainly do NOT condone use of disabled spaces. I do think there are often so many that this cheapens them to the point where people think its ok to use one. They justify it to themselves. (Like late evening at Castlepoint.) I also think the mother and child spaces are badly understood. I stopped using these when my youngest no longer needed a push chair and assistance getting in and out. Thats the only reason for these spaces, when assisting a child needs the extra width from a fully open car door. Plus this charity donation sounds fishy to me. Usually all the money goes to the contracted parking enforcement firm. So how much are they donating? I would not be surprised if its 50p or less! Typical abuse of "charidee mate".
I do agree with the question over the Charity donation. The sotre (Texco/Asda/Whoever) would have to agree a sum to be returned by the clamping company for operating on their car park. Rest assured, it probably won't be much!
PokesdownMark, Pokesdown says...
12:44pm Tue 15 Jan 08
I disagree. The car park is the supermarket's private property and so they're entitled to stop anyone parking on it and can have them clamped if necessary.
Correct, they are entitled to do what they like. They could introduce spaces for yellow cars if they wanted to. But they would not be legally enforcable either.
Please note... I am not saying that I think this is right or wrong. Though I would rather some other method of social pressure be applied rather than these pretend fines .
Munkstar, Bournemouth says...
12:48pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Phil, Poole says...
12:52pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Munkstar wrote:More importantly, why do you bother making stupid comments that no-one cares about? Haven't you got anything better to do? Evidently not.
Why are there disabled spaces outside B & Q? Are there wheelchair capable ladders available?
godzilla, hamworthy says...
1:08pm Tue 15 Jan 08
..ig34 wrote:i am assuming that reply was tongue in cheek, if not too bad, if people will make nasty remarks and judge other people when they have not experienced disability themselves
Posted by: godzilla, hamworthy on 11:06am today,.......Ever heard of what goes around etc it may be you one day you silly selfish person.............. ........What a shocking thing to say,I can't believe any body would say such a thing.
xchmum, Christchurch says...
1:13pm Tue 15 Jan 08
silky, Bournemouth says...
1:13pm Tue 15 Jan 08
ED, Soton says...
1:23pm Tue 15 Jan 08
godzilla wrote:for your information I spent 16mths in a wheelchair and on crutches with a broken pelvis and 2 broken legs some years back - so I think I know something about being not being fully abled... However - that does not change my opinion that there are TOO MANY disabled spaces that are not used enough in the majority of large car parks....
..ig34 wrote: Posted by: godzilla, hamworthy on 11:06am today,.......Ever heard of what goes around etc it may be you one day you silly selfish person.............. ........What a shocking thing to say,I can't believe any body would say such a thing.i am assuming that reply was tongue in cheek, if not too bad, if people will make nasty remarks and judge other people when they have not experienced disability themselves
PETE WOODLEY, says...
1:26pm Tue 15 Jan 08
silky wrote:Great reply,saves me the bother.
yes munkstar there are wheelchair capable ladders. They are in aisle 52 next to the "socially inept help desk" but you know where that is already don't you? ;o)
PETE WOODLEY, says...
1:32pm Tue 15 Jan 08
ED wrote:You forgot the brain injury ?.
godzilla wrote:for your information I spent 16mths in a wheelchair and on crutches with a broken pelvis and 2 broken legs some years back - so I think I know something about being not being fully abled... However - that does not change my opinion that there are TOO MANY disabled spaces that are not used enough in the majority of large car parks....
..ig34 wrote: Posted by: godzilla, hamworthy on 11:06am today,.......Ever heard of what goes around etc it may be you one day you silly selfish person.............. ........What a shocking thing to say,I can't believe any body would say such a thing.i am assuming that reply was tongue in cheek, if not too bad, if people will make nasty remarks and judge other people when they have not experienced disability themselves
snoff, Poole says...
1:33pm Tue 15 Jan 08
PETE WOODLEY wrote:Oh do carry on Pete, we all enjoy it!!
silky wrote: yes munkstar there are wheelchair capable ladders. They are in aisle 52 next to the "socially inept help desk" but you know where that is already don't you? ;o)Great reply,saves me the bother.
snoff, Poole says...
1:39pm Tue 15 Jan 08
RichT wrote:You should have reported them for abusing the parking space, that poor parking space is probably traumatised!!!
I think this sums up the difference between Asda and Tesco's attitude towards customers. I've seen people abuse the parent and child spaces at Tesco. I didn't believe that the store would take action if I reported it! I agree with Pete's comments too!
..ig34, says...
1:45pm Tue 15 Jan 08
assumed...tongue in cheek..you assumed a load of crap,you couldn't be further from the truth you made yourself look stupid .nasty uughh
Phil, Poole says...
1:48pm Tue 15 Jan 08
..ig34, says...
1:53pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Phil, Poole says...
1:56pm Tue 15 Jan 08
swampy, poole says...
2:17pm Tue 15 Jan 08
teddy, bournemouth says...
2:20pm Tue 15 Jan 08
..ig34, says...
2:21pm Tue 15 Jan 08
PokesdownMark, Pokesdown says...
2:33pm Tue 15 Jan 08
I suspect this is just a smoke screen to justify a potentially unpopular business decision!
PETE WOODLEY, says...
2:35pm Tue 15 Jan 08
teddy wrote:Thats right park in a disabled space,and dont pay the fine,what a plonker to suggest that,if there is no fine they just carry on parking.trust a councillor to come out with that.
Didn't think Pete could afford to go shopping as you are always moaning about hard up you are - too many people abuse the disabled badges. There should be photos on all the passes so relative cannot use them when the real disabled person is not in the car.As for fines just don't pay them. it is just another wat of the super chains making more money. It is only too common these days.You should refuse to pay any fine as they are not legally enforceable.
Phil, Poole says...
2:43pm Tue 15 Jan 08
teddy wrote:Ah, I thought the 'too many people abusing the blue badge scheme' old chestnut would come up sooner or later.
Didn't think Pete could afford to go shopping as you are always moaning about hard up you are - too many people abuse the disabled badges. There should be photos on all the passes so relative cannot use them when the real disabled person is not in the car.As for fines just don't pay them. it is just another wat of the super chains making more money. It is only too common these days.You should refuse to pay any fine as they are not legally enforceable.
Teddy, it appears that you despise people who abuse the blue badge scheme (even if it is a tiny minority). Yet you advise anyone without a blue badge who parks in a disabled space not to pay any fines!
Erm, what makes such people any better than those who abuse the blue badge scheme?
Tim M, usa says...
2:50pm Tue 15 Jan 08
tinytim, Bournemouth says...
2:57pm Tue 15 Jan 08
I just hope they enforce disabled people parking in the parent spaces and vice-versa aswell.
Karen, says...
3:06pm Tue 15 Jan 08
ED wrote:I'm with you on that one Ed :D
While i'm about it - i'd tax mobility scooters and make the dangerous idiots that ride them pay insurance.....
Until law has been passed I shall continue to park in what ever bay I wish :D If they brought back invilid carriages I might be a bit more conforming, as it was easy to see that they were genuinely disabled but these days every tom dick and harry appears to have orange stickers whether they're disabled or not (for Mums, Grans etc).
Phil, Poole says...
3:21pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Karen wrote:So what makes you any better than the scum who dishonestly obtain a blue badge then?
ED wrote:I'm with you on that one Ed :D
While i'm about it - i'd tax mobility scooters and make the dangerous idiots that ride them pay insurance.....
Until law has been passed I shall continue to park in what ever bay I wish :D If they brought back invilid carriages I might be a bit more conforming, as it was easy to see that they were genuinely disabled but these days every tom dick and harry appears to have orange stickers whether they're disabled or not (for Mums, Grans etc).
PETE WOODLEY, says...
3:27pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Phil wrote:Phil humour karen,she's awaiting brain surgery,she is not aware of what she is saying,and is to be pittied.Her just rewards WILL come.
Karen wrote:So what makes you any better than the scum who dishonestly obtain a blue badge then?
ED wrote:I'm with you on that one Ed :D
While i'm about it - i'd tax mobility scooters and make the dangerous idiots that ride them pay insurance.....
Until law has been passed I shall continue to park in what ever bay I wish :D If they brought back invilid carriages I might be a bit more conforming, as it was easy to see that they were genuinely disabled but these days every tom dick and harry appears to have orange stickers whether they're disabled or not (for Mums, Grans etc).
Phil, Poole says...
3:37pm Tue 15 Jan 08
It's okay for me to park in disabled bays when not entitled because some others (particularly those abusing the blue badge scheme) get away with it.
So is it okay for me to steal because some others do it and get away with it?
And is it okay for me to kill people because some others do it and get away with it?
Hey, you can justify any wrongdoing with this logic! I wonder how it would play in court though.
..ig34, says...
3:51pm Tue 15 Jan 08
I see the Echo are happy to air this feud yet again. Me? I like to park near the entrance as the car is less likely to be tampered with because it's a busy area. Plus of course, we don't need to justify to anyone where we want to park :)
I see the Echo are happy to air this feud yet again. Me? I like to park near the entrance as the car is less likely to be tampered with because it's a busy area. Plus of course, we don't need to justify to anyone where we want to park .
Karen you must try and remember what you previously posted,
No wonder your kids look at you and say 'retard'
Jane, poole says...
3:59pm Tue 15 Jan 08
ninelystort, bournemouth says...
4:15pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Phil, Poole says...
4:27pm Tue 15 Jan 08
ninelystort wrote:Defeatist. That's like saying the police shouldn't bother tackling particular crimes because 'there's always been a problem with xyz and always will be'.
There has always been people who abuse the disabled badge system and always will be. The problem is that there is no parking system in place at places like Castlepoint which causes all the chaos at times.People do get annoyed when they see disabled parking spaces bing abused by drivers who are not entitled to use them.As for fines there are far too many organisations fining people these days including the police, councils and especially those rouges called clamping companies.
xchmum, Christchurch says...
4:28pm Tue 15 Jan 08
teddy wrote:There is a photo on each blue disabled parking badge, on the reverse so that we can't get any abuse from people who don't understand what it is like to be disabled.
Didn't think Pete could afford to go shopping as you are always moaning about hard up you are - too many people abuse the disabled badges. There should be photos on all the passes so relative cannot use them when the real disabled person is not in the car.As for fines just don't pay them. it is just another wat of the super chains making more money. It is only too common these days.You should refuse to pay any fine as they are not legally enforceable.
Emulated, Bournemouth says...
4:34pm Tue 15 Jan 08
PETE WOODLEY, says...
4:39pm Tue 15 Jan 08
xchmum wrote:For heavens sake,when the badge is displayed properly no one can see the photo,and who wants to risk a punchup if they can,so as others have pointed out to you councillor,and karen has said, the idiots will park where they like.well done again for stupid advice.
teddy wrote:There is a photo on each blue disabled parking badge, on the reverse so that we can't get any abuse from people who don't understand what it is like to be disabled.
Didn't think Pete could afford to go shopping as you are always moaning about hard up you are - too many people abuse the disabled badges. There should be photos on all the passes so relative cannot use them when the real disabled person is not in the car.As for fines just don't pay them. it is just another wat of the super chains making more money. It is only too common these days.You should refuse to pay any fine as they are not legally enforceable.
ad, Poole says...
4:43pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Phil, Poole says...
4:58pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Emulated wrote:Yet again, I must repeat my question
As many of the cars with disabled badges do not have disabled people in them, I am not suprised people park in their marked bays. I have seen women with children in mother and baby bays and all the kids were over 10 years old. Need to sort out the cons before having a go at the general public.
What makes the small minority (for that's what it is) of the general public who park in disabled bays when not entitled any better than the 'cons' who fiddle the system to get a blue badge?
Nothing, that's what! So stop condoning their despicable, selfish behaviour.
Jane, poole says...
5:06pm Tue 15 Jan 08
As for this little gem
'Disabled can shop from home for griefs sake. Its delivered for the cost of your petrol/Taxi/bus ride there and back. Computers are less cost than a weeks coach trip to Bulgaria.'
posted by munkstar at 12.04 today, is it not bad enough that these people are trapped in bodies that dont work properly without taking away their freedom to choose their own fruit & veg & making them prisoners in their own homes!!!
chellk, dorset says...
6:07pm Tue 15 Jan 08
munchkin wrote:Agree completely.
just to put the cat among the pigeons - you want to see some of the looks received by a parent getting their child out of the car in a disabled space - terrible yes but not if that child is registered disabled , you can not always see a disability. People need to look a little further than the ends of their noses.
Jerry, poole, dorset says...
6:42pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Karen wrote:Actually, they're BLUE now.
ED wrote: While i'm about it - i'd tax mobility scooters and make the dangerous idiots that ride them pay insurance.....I'm with you on that one Ed :D Until law has been passed I shall continue to park in what ever bay I wish :D If they brought back invilid carriages I might be a bit more conforming, as it was easy to see that they were genuinely disabled but these days every tom dick and harry appears to have orange stickers whether they're disabled or not (for Mums, Grans etc).
Charlie, says...
7:21pm Tue 15 Jan 08
(1) ED : How many people do you know who are so disabled they cant walk across a Car Park ?? - they seem to manage wandering around the shop ok.... Usually using a trolley for support. Doing that it totally different from walking across a car park. Besides which painful feet and aching hips can take just so much before the pain becomes absolutely unbearable. Saving the walk across a car park can make the difference between being able to shop and not being able to.
(2)ED: "While i'm about it - i'd tax mobility scooters and make the dangerous idiots that ride them pay insurance.....d: " There are two classes of mobility scooter - those that can only do 4 mph, can be used on pavements and do not have to be taxed or insured. Those that can do 4 mph and 8 mph. At 8 mph they have to be driven on the roads and must be taxed and insured.
(3)Munkstar: Disabled can shop from home for griefs sake. Its delivered for the cost of your petrol/Taxi/bus ride there and back. Computers are less cost than a weeks coach trip to Bulgaria. Thats the caring thing to do keep the disabled out of sight at home and housebound.
(4)Teddy: too many people abuse the disabled badges. There should be photos on all the passes so relative cannot use them when the real disabled person is not in the car. There are photos on the badges on the back but they have to be shown with the expiry date showing. The reason I was told that photos arent made visible is that women alone could be vulnerable. The main people abusing the badge are friends or relatives of the badge holder who use it illegally. Shane Ritchie (Alfie in Eastenders) was pulled for using his sisters/brothers wife? badge. His excuse was that it was a family badge theres no such thing. It applies only to the person it was issued to so they can have a more comfortable visit to supermarkets, clubs, etc, not so they can sit in the car while someone accompanying them doesnt have to walk too far.
johnx, poole says...
7:30pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Jane, poole says...
7:46pm Tue 15 Jan 08
I agree with johnx about 4x4s which no matter how you look at it are not a necessary part of life around town. If the drivers do bother to park in the spaces they take up 2 but pay for 1 !!
norbitonpaul, says...
8:22pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Yes they may be displaying the disabled shield on the dashboard (probably a forgery), but we know that the majority of these folks are simply taking the p**s.
Alas, it is yet another depressing manifestation of the "what yer gonna do about it?" society.
But good for Asda - but no coincidence as my experience suggests that Asda has a considerable share of the neanderthal fraternity.
2Much, New Forest says...
9:00pm Tue 15 Jan 08
Nigel Blumenthal, says...
9:12pm Tue 15 Jan 08
ody-like" variety. It's depressing, and it really doesn't say much for the level of social consciousness of the average inhabitant of the area we now call home...
Nigel Blumenthal, says...
9:13pm Tue 15 Jan 08
ody-like" variety. It's depressing, and it really doesn't say much for the level of social consciousness of the average inhabitant of the area we now call home...
Ian, Blandford says...
7:51am Wed 16 Jan 08
Phil wrote:Phil in Poole, **** off
Ian wrote: How my heart bleeds for the current crop of parents. We never had parent & child places when my kids were young, and I'm talking late eighties. suck it up and get on with itSo what? Why shouldn't matters be improved? Our ancestors never had computers - in which case why the heck are you using one, you big jessie?
Karen, says...
8:00am Wed 16 Jan 08
..ig34 wrote:... and I'm not saying anything different this time really am I? You know, yesterday, I was informed by a colleague that their mother has a disabled badge because she has osteoporosis. This colleague laughed and said that she's no way disabled and enjoys horseriding among other activities. She's got a badge because she can! All this hoohaa from supposed doogooders ruffles my feathers :o)
Posted by: Karen, Poole on 12:17pm Tue 2 Oct 07 I see the Echo are happy to air this feud yet again. Me? I like to park near the entrance as the car is less likely to be tampered with because it's a busy area. Plus of course, we don't need to justify to anyone where we want to park :) I see the Echo are happy to air this feud yet again. Me? I like to park near the entrance as the car is less likely to be tampered with because it's a busy area. Plus of course, we don't need to justify to anyone where we want to park . Karen you must try and remember what you previously posted, No wonder your kids look at you and say 'retard'
godzilla, hamworthy says...
8:34am Wed 16 Jan 08
Phil, Poole says...
9:29am Wed 16 Jan 08
Ian wrote:How charming and so articulate. You're still a jessie though.
Phil wrote:Phil in Poole, **** off
Ian wrote: How my heart bleeds for the current crop of parents. We never had parent & child places when my kids were young, and I'm talking late eighties. suck it up and get on with itSo what? Why shouldn't matters be improved? Our ancestors never had computers - in which case why the heck are you using one, you big jessie?
..ig34, says...
12:52pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Not in every case though in Petes case for instance its on the reverse ,..... 'just in case it might scare the daylights out of little kids'.
Phil, Poole says...
3:06pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Karen wrote:So are you saying this lady who got the badge by fiddling the system is to be admired or despised? If the latter, why are you any better since you park in disabled bays without entitlement? Doesn't seem any real difference to me. You're both scum in my book.
..ig34 wrote:... and I'm not saying anything different this time really am I? You know, yesterday, I was informed by a colleague that their mother has a disabled badge because she has osteoporosis. This colleague laughed and said that she's no way disabled and enjoys horseriding among other activities. She's got a badge because she can! All this hoohaa from supposed doogooders ruffles my feathers :o)
Posted by: Karen, Poole on 12:17pm Tue 2 Oct 07 I see the Echo are happy to air this feud yet again. Me? I like to park near the entrance as the car is less likely to be tampered with because it's a busy area. Plus of course, we don't need to justify to anyone where we want to park :) I see the Echo are happy to air this feud yet again. Me? I like to park near the entrance as the car is less likely to be tampered with because it's a busy area. Plus of course, we don't need to justify to anyone where we want to park . Karen you must try and remember what you previously posted, No wonder your kids look at you and say 'retard'
2Much, New Forest says...
3:34pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Charlie, says...
6:30pm Wed 16 Jan 08
2Much, New Forest says...
6:54pm Wed 16 Jan 08
..ig34, says...
9:52pm Wed 16 Jan 08
Brilliant, I loved that tourettes bit,
I do hope .. Ian in Blandford 7 51am .. is ok
2Much, New Forest says...
7:16am Thu 17 Jan 08
Karen, says...
12:06pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Karen, says...
12:09pm Thu 17 Jan 08
That's how to deal with nosey and judgmental people like that. Wasn't you Karen was it?
I doubt it... I would have been in that space already LOL
..ig34, says...
1:47pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Im not so sure about her winding us up though just for a LOL
its only my opinion.
Karen, says...
9:01pm Thu 17 Jan 08
PETE WOODLEY, says...
9:32pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Karen wrote:YOU stupid girl ,DO YOU think that we never worked for a living,and a lot longer than you have,Karen for goodness sake we are not all scroungers,get your facts right and think how lucky you are to have good health and more years to live.
You're right ig34. I am a hard working mum. Leave the house at 7am at get in at 6pm. I am the breadwinner looking after my children. No one looks after me except me. Of course there's an element of 'wind up' in my posts because I'm sick to death of hearing about doogooders and boohooers. The disabled are lucky, they just have to be disabled... I'll not even have a state pension come my retirement regardless of the hundreds of thousands I've paid in and nor will my children. They're both still young yet I'm priming them to put in as much as they can afford into a private pension when they become 'workers'. What gets me is that disabled and their entourage believe they're owed everything they get. How about being a little more grateful and appreciative of those that provide you with your comforts?
PETE WOODLEY, says...
9:36pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Karen wrote:YOU stupid girl ,DO YOU think that we never worked for a living,and a lot longer than you have,Karen for goodness sake we are not all scroungers,get your facts right and think how lucky you are to have good health and more years to live.
You're right ig34. I am a hard working mum. Leave the house at 7am at get in at 6pm. I am the breadwinner looking after my children. No one looks after me except me. Of course there's an element of 'wind up' in my posts because I'm sick to death of hearing about doogooders and boohooers. The disabled are lucky, they just have to be disabled... I'll not even have a state pension come my retirement regardless of the hundreds of thousands I've paid in and nor will my children. They're both still young yet I'm priming them to put in as much as they can afford into a private pension when they become 'workers'. What gets me is that disabled and their entourage believe they're owed everything they get. How about being a little more grateful and appreciative of those that provide you with your comforts?
PETE WOODLEY, says...
9:36pm Thu 17 Jan 08
Karen wrote:YOU stupid girl ,DO YOU think that we never worked for a living,and a lot longer than you have,Karen for goodness sake we are not all scroungers,get your facts right and think how lucky you are to have good health and more years to live.
You're right ig34. I am a hard working mum. Leave the house at 7am at get in at 6pm. I am the breadwinner looking after my children. No one looks after me except me. Of course there's an element of 'wind up' in my posts because I'm sick to death of hearing about doogooders and boohooers. The disabled are lucky, they just have to be disabled... I'll not even have a state pension come my retirement regardless of the hundreds of thousands I've paid in and nor will my children. They're both still young yet I'm priming them to put in as much as they can afford into a private pension when they become 'workers'. What gets me is that disabled and their entourage believe they're owed everything they get. How about being a little more grateful and appreciative of those that provide you with your comforts?
Francoise Henon-Lees, Bournemouth / Wimborne says...
1:19pm Fri 18 Jan 08
derek wrote:I throughly recommend Pamphill or Cranborne Farm Shops :)
I keep away from them all Tes,Asd,Som,Sai,Wai drive to your local farm , get fresh food , good quality and no carrier bags !. P.S. And a nice smile :-)
Phil, Poole says...
2:41pm Fri 18 Jan 08
Shame on you - and bird muck on your car!
Karen, says...
5:04pm Sat 19 Jan 08
Mike Pickering, Bournemouth says...
10:36pm Sun 20 Jan 08
PETE WOODLEY, says...
9:28am Mon 21 Jan 08
Mike Pickering wrote:Just like Rose on the councillors interests thread,Could be twins.
You are disabled, Karen - someone removed your heart.
PETE WOODLEY, says...
9:46am Mon 21 Jan 08
Mike Pickering wrote:Just like Rose on the councillors interests thread,Could be twins.
You are disabled, Karen - someone removed your heart.
PETE WOODLEY, says...
9:47am Mon 21 Jan 08
Mike Pickering wrote:Just like Rose on the councillors interests thread,Could be twins.
You are disabled, Karen - someone removed your heart.
..ig34, says...
4:57pm Mon 21 Jan 08
Bet your glad your not a chain smoker Karen look after that heart of yours,
Disabled spaces are not for super fit women,so keep out,
Karen, says...
10:04pm Mon 21 Jan 08
Yes Mike Pickering, I think you're right :)
Mike Pickering, Bournemouth says...
11:38pm Mon 21 Jan 08
Karen, says...
7:05pm Sun 3 Feb 08
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8:43am Tue 15 Jan 08