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Chaos as A338 closed at Springbourne after accident
6:30am Thursday 13th December 2012 in News
A338 closed at Springbourne after accident
TWO people had a lucky escape after their car was sandwiched in a multi-vehicle smash on the Wessex Way last night.
The collision caused traffic chaos across the area as motorists struggled to find alternative routes to avoid the A338, which was closed at Springbourne roundabout for about an hour.
The driver and passenger of the silver Smart car had to be cut free from the vehicle as a result of the three-car collision, which took place just before the Cooper Dean slip road around 4pm.
Police were forced to close the northbound carriageway at Springbourne roundabout to Cooper Dean as three fire crews worked to free the pair, who were taken to hospital by ambulance.
Their injuries are not believed to be serious although one of the casualties was removed on a spinal board.
Alternative routes quickly became congested with rush hour traffic backed up to County Gates roundabout while Richmond Park Road and Charminster Road were also at a standstill as drivers struggled to avoid the tailbacks.
Ashley Road in Boscombe and Castle Lane were also affected by the incident.
One motorist said: “It's a nightmare. Whatever route you take, it's snarled up, the tailbacks are horrendous.
“Whichever way you go, you're going to get stuck.”
The accident, which took place in lane one, just before the Cooper Dean turn off, closed the road for around an hour as firefighters worked to extract the pair by removing the doors of the car.
One driver, the first in the queue on the Wessex Way, said: “Police told us to turn our engine off and didn't say how long it would be.
“We can see the fire engines and police cars and ambulances in front of us but nothing is moving.
“Fire crews are having to cut out two people and we can see one in an ambulance.
“All the cars are just bunched up together.”
Police opened the road around 5.15pm.
The Smart car and the Toyota were both recovered.
Comments(58)
politicaltrainspotter
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4:38pm Wed 12 Dec 12
lionheart
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5:38pm Wed 12 Dec 12
If it is it should be at the Cooper Dean intersection!
Bit late now I know but surely you should check first?
lionheart
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5:39pm Wed 12 Dec 12
Phixer
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6:07pm Wed 12 Dec 12
EGHH wrote:Why should it? And twice in one week is hardly 'continual'.
Is this anything to do with the continual failure of the traffic lights there?
One does exagerate.
corozin
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6:24pm Wed 12 Dec 12
b26b
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7:01pm Wed 12 Dec 12
Why does it take so long for a road to re-open after a crash? And why did they have to park a car on the slip road with lights going and two coppers inside doing nothing? I think you could speed up the process up after a crash.The Police need to be a bit more proactive.Get the casaulties sorted, mess cleaned up and road opened as a matter of urgency.
Bmthanon
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7:59pm Wed 12 Dec 12
b26b wrote:The police were brilliant actually it takes time for fire crew to cut people out of a car!!! And had nothing to do with the speed camera it was passed there, It was only closed for about an hour and a half.
Would not want to be in a Smart car in a prang. I hope those that were involved recover.
Why does it take so long for a road to re-open after a crash? And why did they have to park a car on the slip road with lights going and two coppers inside doing nothing? I think you could speed up the process up after a crash.The Police need to be a bit more proactive.Get the casaulties sorted, mess cleaned up and road opened as a matter of urgency.
The Renegade Master
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10:44pm Wed 12 Dec 12
GAHmusic
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11:23pm Wed 12 Dec 12
stevehiggi
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12:47am Thu 13 Dec 12
b26b wrote:Actually Smart cars are safer than you think.
Would not want to be in a Smart car in a prang. I hope those that were involved recover.
Why does it take so long for a road to re-open after a crash? And why did they have to park a car on the slip road with lights going and two coppers inside doing nothing? I think you could speed up the process up after a crash.The Police need to be a bit more proactive.Get the casaulties sorted, mess cleaned up and road opened as a matter of urgency.
retry69
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6:05am Thu 13 Dec 12
retry69
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7:35am Thu 13 Dec 12
Huey wrote:Just for research purposes and future reference i dont suppose you would share you age and how long you been driving with us?
Some feeble minded idiot with limited driving abilities rear ends another car, and a large town ginds to a halt....
When you bear in mind the number of hours and cost of fuel wasted it is worth banning the driver who caused the accident for life to make sure they can't balls everything up again in the future.
Bmthanon
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8:19am Thu 13 Dec 12
retry69 wrote:Exactly!!! I tried to say how well it was handled but people always have an oppinion even if they were not there.
As normal hardly any praise for the emergency services who have to deal with the aftermath of accidents also this sort of discussion brings out the comments from certain road users who in my opinion are the worst nightmares of others the "i know it all" they are the accidents waiting to happen and would be the first to fail any retest yet and when their opinion is challenged they resort to abusive remarks PATHETIC
blakieboy7
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8:25am Thu 13 Dec 12
jobsworthwatch
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8:30am Thu 13 Dec 12
retry69 wrote:Retry is hoping that Huey is going to admit to being over 50 and never had an accident since passing his test aged 17? If he's over 60 and never had an accident then by retrys reckoning he must be lethal!
Huey wrote:Just for research purposes and future reference i dont suppose you would share you age and how long you been driving with us?
Some feeble minded idiot with limited driving abilities rear ends another car, and a large town ginds to a halt....
When you bear in mind the number of hours and cost of fuel wasted it is worth banning the driver who caused the accident for life to make sure they can't balls everything up again in the future.
retry69
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9:21am Thu 13 Dec 12
jobsworthwatch wrote:Calm down! as i said purely for research purposes, nothing else LOL
retry69 wrote:Retry is hoping that Huey is going to admit to being over 50 and never had an accident since passing his test aged 17? If he's over 60 and never had an accident then by retrys reckoning he must be lethal!
Huey wrote:Just for research purposes and future reference i dont suppose you would share you age and how long you been driving with us?
Some feeble minded idiot with limited driving abilities rear ends another car, and a large town ginds to a halt....
When you bear in mind the number of hours and cost of fuel wasted it is worth banning the driver who caused the accident for life to make sure they can't balls everything up again in the future.
super_soup
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9:34am Thu 13 Dec 12
This isn't about 3 cars involved in an accident - accidents happen.
This is about a town whose entire road network ground to a halt after an accident involving 3 cars.
A town whose population grew 13% between 2001 and 2011, yet I doubt the road capacity grew by the same percentage...
We need some answers from the council as to what their strategic plan is for the infrastructure of the conurbation as it's only going to get worse...
mmmmmmm
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10:09am Thu 13 Dec 12
BackOfTheNet
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10:44am Thu 13 Dec 12
mmmmmmm wrote:Yes. It's also a town full of idiots that all feel they have a right to commute at exactly the same time.
Is it about a town full of idiots who think cars are a sensible means if transport?
Sadly, most of them don't even realise they ARE the traffic.
Time to ban passengerless vehicles from some lanes and roads at peak times, then they'll be a bit more likely to car-share.
tricky1007
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11:16am Thu 13 Dec 12
BackOfTheNet wrote:what happens if your self employed and work on your own?
mmmmmmm wrote:Yes. It's also a town full of idiots that all feel they have a right to commute at exactly the same time.
Is it about a town full of idiots who think cars are a sensible means if transport?
Sadly, most of them don't even realise they ARE the traffic.
Time to ban passengerless vehicles from some lanes and roads at peak times, then they'll be a bit more likely to car-share.
Lord Spring
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12:01pm Thu 13 Dec 12
tricky1007 wrote:Buy a blow up doll and put it in the passenger seat.
BackOfTheNet wrote:what happens if your self employed and work on your own?
mmmmmmm wrote:Yes. It's also a town full of idiots that all feel they have a right to commute at exactly the same time.
Is it about a town full of idiots who think cars are a sensible means if transport?
Sadly, most of them don't even realise they ARE the traffic.
Time to ban passengerless vehicles from some lanes and roads at peak times, then they'll be a bit more likely to car-share.
But dont buy one from Derek Trotter.
BackOfTheNet
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12:12pm Thu 13 Dec 12
The majority of peak time car drivers could either car share or use public transport but refuse. These people are the traffic problem.
Anyone that doesn't take commuting onto account when moving or changing job is daft.
EscapefromBournemouth
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12:48pm Thu 13 Dec 12
spooki
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12:49pm Thu 13 Dec 12
mmmmmmm wrote:Does 'a town full of idiots' include everyone who lives in Bournemouth? I for one am a careful driver and use Wessex Way at least once a week. I am constantly amazed by bad or aggressive drivers and what they get up to. Yes they are idiots but don't class us all the same! If you use public transport, I will just say I prefer to get to my destination of around 5 miles in less than an hour, which is how long it took the bus to get from Castlepoint to Bmth Square last time I used it.
Is it about a town full of idiots who think cars are a sensible means if transport?
Molecatcher
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1:03pm Thu 13 Dec 12
super_soup wrote:You will only get some answers from the Council if there is something in it for them. The first bit of strategy they will work out is how far they can get their fat snouts into the trough... If the answer to that is good enough, then there might be a 'plan'. The plan of course will not make sense and will be doomed to over-run in terms of budget and/or time (see stupid roundabout at Canford Bottom) but hey, who cares - it's only the tax payers money and the Councillors will have their noses in the trough. Everyone's a winner.
This isn't about the emergency services who were only doing their jobs. And, might I add a fantastic job. This isn't about 3 cars involved in an accident - accidents happen. This is about a town whose entire road network ground to a halt after an accident involving 3 cars. A town whose population grew 13% between 2001 and 2011, yet I doubt the road capacity grew by the same percentage... We need some answers from the council as to what their strategic plan is for the infrastructure of the conurbation as it's only going to get worse...
super_soup
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1:15pm Thu 13 Dec 12
h says...
12:48pm Thu 13 Dec 12
"Firstly, we don't have accidents we have collisions which are normally caused by errors."
- an accident is defined as 'An unexpected and undesirable event, especially one resulting in damage or harm' - I think yesterday's event matches that description. "Collision" is a legal term.
"so as this thing does not happen every hour of everyday in this sleepy one horse town...grow up and deal with it"
- we live in the South East Dorset Conurbation (SEDC); the 16th largest population in the UK, larger than Southampton and only a slightly smaller population than Edinburgh.
Hardly a one horse town, and one which needs a lot of investment to prevent the traffic chaos which is becoming more frequent. Do you think the whole of Cardiff (which has a smaller population than SEDC) grinds to a halt when there is a 'Road Traffic Collision'?
EscapefromBournemouth
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1:19pm Thu 13 Dec 12
BournemouthMatt
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1:49pm Thu 13 Dec 12
Molecatcher
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3:53pm Thu 13 Dec 12
BournemouthMatt wrote:Maybe... But driving safely and with consideration to other road uses does seem to present a bit of a challenge to some... You only have to read the comments on this site whenever there is an 'incident'. The comments on 'speed cameras' should give you an idea about people's attitude to safety on the roads.
Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.
The recent 'incident' at Bear Cross says it all really. This 'incident' should give you some clue as to the quality of the gene pool in this part of the world... There should have been a nomination for a Darwin Award if nothing else. It's the emergency services people I feel for... I would not want to deal with a mess like that. They have my greatest admiration.
TinyLegacy
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4:24pm Thu 13 Dec 12
EGHH
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4:45pm Thu 13 Dec 12
TinyLegacy wrote:Agreed. The fear of speed cameras cause more rear end shunts than anything else. Even when drivers are doing 30 some still brake unnecessarily. Its a pleasure to drive in Wiltshire where there heave been no speed cameras since late 2010. I bet the accident rate has gone down too!
For the love of GOD people. READ THE ROADSIGNS at that speedcamera. The max speed is STILL 50. It does NOT drop to 40mph. I'm sick and tired of idiots slamming their brakes on at that camera.
Earl
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5:00pm Thu 13 Dec 12
Phixer wrote:Actually the traffic had backed up from the Cooper Dean along the slip road as Seimens appeared to be playing around with the traffic lights, and traffic heading towards Ringwood were suddenly confronted with stationary traffic whilst supposing the show of brake lights ahead of them was caused by the usual slowing down at the speed cameras and not realizing that the vehicles ahead were in fact stationary.
EGHH wrote:Why should it? And twice in one week is hardly 'continual'.
Is this anything to do with the continual failure of the traffic lights there?
One does exagerate.
Beckywaite87
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6:43pm Thu 13 Dec 12
Bmthanon
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7:30pm Thu 13 Dec 12
Beckywaite87 wrote:How's your mum and partner? Paramedic said they were going to be ok at the time?
I like how hardly anyone on here has asked how the people involved are! That was my mum and her partner in that car. Who gives a **** about the traffic. Everyone is in a rush all the time which is why these kind of accidents happen, get Ur priorities straight!!
B.F.G
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9:09pm Thu 13 Dec 12
Sammyy1991
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9:40pm Thu 13 Dec 12
The speed cameras are at no fault for any accident on the wessex way. if your driving at 70 and brake hard to slow down to 50 then you are the one causing the accidents!! if you stick the rules of the road you are driving on speed cameras are not a distraction at all as you would not have to worry about them!
And as to finding alternative ways to commute to work... catching a bus from Poole to Christchurch to work is VERY expensive and takes a very long time! its just not feasible. Its actually cheaper to drive a 3 litre car!
ceri_smarty
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9:56pm Thu 13 Dec 12
DansAFCB
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10:09pm Thu 13 Dec 12
Molecatcher wrote:The incident at Bear Cross was down to two people and one drunk behind the wheel being the big clever I am! At taxpayers costs!!!!!!
BournemouthMatt wrote:Maybe... But driving safely and with consideration to other road uses does seem to present a bit of a challenge to some... You only have to read the comments on this site whenever there is an 'incident'. The comments on 'speed cameras' should give you an idea about people's attitude to safety on the roads.
Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.
The recent 'incident' at Bear Cross says it all really. This 'incident' should give you some clue as to the quality of the gene pool in this part of the world... There should have been a nomination for a Darwin Award if nothing else. It's the emergency services people I feel for... I would not want to deal with a mess like that. They have my greatest admiration.
A lot of accidents are caused by drivers not driving too often and coming out once a week "driving miss daisy", I do in excess of 60k miles a year and I don't hang about, but I drive safe but it is the incompetence that causes accidents not necessarily speed all the time. In all the miles I drive I have never had a fault accident and not had one for 13 years, both accidents I have been involved in are when I have been stationary at a junction........ I see so many near misses due to incompetence but hardly any relating to speed!
Teucer2000
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11:10pm Thu 13 Dec 12
ceri_smarty wrote:I'm afraid you need to check your facts. The EuroNCAP ratings are based on classes of cars. You can't compare different classes of cars. Thus a car of a larger class rated only 3 star may in fact be safer than a small car rated 5. The Smart is compared with cars like the Toyota IQ.
It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.
ragj195
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11:54pm Thu 13 Dec 12
On another note, putting a speed camera before a busy exit slip road is daft. Cars slowing down for no reason causes bunching, then you get the cars in the outer lane that want to pull off pulling into gaps that aren't there which causes further braking. All this sooner or later ends with a shut. Yes we should all leave more space but the easiest solution is to move the camera!
retry69
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6:36am Fri 14 Dec 12
DansAFCB wrote:Just for research i dont suppose nah forget it! Football supporter also LOL
Molecatcher wrote:The incident at Bear Cross was down to two people and one drunk behind the wheel being the big clever I am! At taxpayers costs!!!!!!
BournemouthMatt wrote:Maybe... But driving safely and with consideration to other road uses does seem to present a bit of a challenge to some... You only have to read the comments on this site whenever there is an 'incident'. The comments on 'speed cameras' should give you an idea about people's attitude to safety on the roads.
Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.
The recent 'incident' at Bear Cross says it all really. This 'incident' should give you some clue as to the quality of the gene pool in this part of the world... There should have been a nomination for a Darwin Award if nothing else. It's the emergency services people I feel for... I would not want to deal with a mess like that. They have my greatest admiration.
A lot of accidents are caused by drivers not driving too often and coming out once a week "driving miss daisy", I do in excess of 60k miles a year and I don't hang about, but I drive safe but it is the incompetence that causes accidents not necessarily speed all the time. In all the miles I drive I have never had a fault accident and not had one for 13 years, both accidents I have been involved in are when I have been stationary at a junction........ I see so many near misses due to incompetence but hardly any relating to speed!
BackOfTheNet
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6:39am Fri 14 Dec 12
Sammyy1991 wrote:£956 a year on the train and you get to relax during your 21 minute journey.
i hope the pair are recovering well and quickly! i really hate stories like this and there is to many of them!!
The speed cameras are at no fault for any accident on the wessex way. if your driving at 70 and brake hard to slow down to 50 then you are the one causing the accidents!! if you stick the rules of the road you are driving on speed cameras are not a distraction at all as you would not have to worry about them!
And as to finding alternative ways to commute to work... catching a bus from Poole to Christchurch to work is VERY expensive and takes a very long time! its just not feasible. Its actually cheaper to drive a 3 litre car!
Is it cheaper than that in a 3 litre car with road tax, insurance, petrol, wear and tear, loss in car value, etc?
My guess is that you wouldn't like the 15 minute walk at either end :)
retry69
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6:51am Fri 14 Dec 12
Molecatcher
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7:24am Fri 14 Dec 12
DansAFCB wrote:Your categorical statement about the cause of 'accidents', your self professed 'not hanging about' and to cap it all a statement of how safe a driver you are. You prove my point exactly. Thank you.
Molecatcher wrote:The incident at Bear Cross was down to two people and one drunk behind the wheel being the big clever I am! At taxpayers costs!!!!!! A lot of accidents are caused by drivers not driving too often and coming out once a week "driving miss daisy", I do in excess of 60k miles a year and I don't hang about, but I drive safe but it is the incompetence that causes accidents not necessarily speed all the time. In all the miles I drive I have never had a fault accident and not had one for 13 years, both accidents I have been involved in are when I have been stationary at a junction........ I see so many near misses due to incompetence but hardly any relating to speed!BournemouthMatt wrote: Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.Maybe... But driving safely and with consideration to other road uses does seem to present a bit of a challenge to some... You only have to read the comments on this site whenever there is an 'incident'. The comments on 'speed cameras' should give you an idea about people's attitude to safety on the roads. The recent 'incident' at Bear Cross says it all really. This 'incident' should give you some clue as to the quality of the gene pool in this part of the world... There should have been a nomination for a Darwin Award if nothing else. It's the emergency services people I feel for... I would not want to deal with a mess like that. They have my greatest admiration.
Sammyy1991
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7:59am Fri 14 Dec 12
BackOfTheNet wrote:From Christchurch train station to somerford... Abit longer than a 15 minute walk :).. But I could get a bus for that but.. Increasing the total too a lot more than £956 .. You are probaly right about how much I spend on the car other than petrol... But I also enjoy driving so it's the price I pay.. Fair point though!
Sammyy1991 wrote:£956 a year on the train and you get to relax during your 21 minute journey.
i hope the pair are recovering well and quickly! i really hate stories like this and there is to many of them!!
The speed cameras are at no fault for any accident on the wessex way. if your driving at 70 and brake hard to slow down to 50 then you are the one causing the accidents!! if you stick the rules of the road you are driving on speed cameras are not a distraction at all as you would not have to worry about them!
And as to finding alternative ways to commute to work... catching a bus from Poole to Christchurch to work is VERY expensive and takes a very long time! its just not feasible. Its actually cheaper to drive a 3 litre car!
Is it cheaper than that in a 3 litre car with road tax, insurance, petrol, wear and tear, loss in car value, etc?
My guess is that you wouldn't like the 15 minute walk at either end :)
scrumpyjack
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8:25am Fri 14 Dec 12
Beckywaite87 wrote:Oh right. And when was the last time you came on here just to post your best wishes to some strangers?
I like how hardly anyone on here has asked how the people involved are! That was my mum and her partner in that car. Who gives a **** about the traffic. Everyone is in a rush all the time which is why these kind of accidents happen, get Ur priorities straight!!
Ummm....
Who gives a **** about traffic? Err maybe the person sat for 2 hours in it?
It’s not about ‘priorities’ or even whether or not a bit of incompetent driving caused a bucket full of cost and stress so grow up and less of the belly button gazing.
Maybe your mum and her partner want to come on here and apologise for their imcompetence?
ceri_smarty
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8:33am Fri 14 Dec 12
Teucer2000 wrote:My point proven exactly, why thank you! -_-
ceri_smarty wrote:I'm afraid you need to check your facts. The EuroNCAP ratings are based on classes of cars. You can't compare different classes of cars. Thus a car of a larger class rated only 3 star may in fact be safer than a small car rated 5. The Smart is compared with cars like the Toyota IQ.
It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.
And if you don't believe me or the person who commented after, YouTube is another really interesting way to back up facts before you speak?
scrumpyjack
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8:38am Fri 14 Dec 12
ceri_smarty wrote:it really annoys me when silly cows are really up their own ar5e.
It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.
'Ooooh look everyone I've got a Smart car and they are like really, really expensive'.
(especially when you are a crud driver and keep crashing it eh?)
ceri_smarty
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11:54am Fri 14 Dec 12
scrumpyjack wrote:Wow, an expert on traffic control and judgement of others! Gold star to you my friend! I am sorry your soooo jealous of my little smart car that I work very hard to pay for. Why don't you go and look at one and see what I am saying? You obviously want a safe car that isn't as expensive as whatever you are driving - sorry, I forgot, you think I am stuck up - your so nieve, that you wish to pay ALOT more to travel than I do. Good luck with that! :) Caring isn't a strong point for you eh?
ceri_smarty wrote:it really annoys me when silly cows are really up their own ar5e.
It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.
'Ooooh look everyone I've got a Smart car and they are like really, really expensive'.
(especially when you are a crud driver and keep crashing it eh?)
FNS-man
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1:23pm Fri 14 Dec 12
EGHH wrote:Or.... people driving too close to the person in front causes shunts.
TinyLegacy wrote:Agreed. The fear of speed cameras cause more rear end shunts than anything else. Even when drivers are doing 30 some still brake unnecessarily. Its a pleasure to drive in Wiltshire where there heave been no speed cameras since late 2010. I bet the accident rate has gone down too!
For the love of GOD people. READ THE ROADSIGNS at that speedcamera. The max speed is STILL 50. It does NOT drop to 40mph. I'm sick and tired of idiots slamming their brakes on at that camera.
FNS-man
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1:25pm Fri 14 Dec 12
DansAFCB wrote:You may have been stationary, but if the person who went into you was travelling at 70 mph then I imagine the outcome would have been worse...
Molecatcher wrote:The incident at Bear Cross was down to two people and one drunk behind the wheel being the big clever I am! At taxpayers costs!!!!!!
BournemouthMatt wrote:Maybe... But driving safely and with consideration to other road uses does seem to present a bit of a challenge to some... You only have to read the comments on this site whenever there is an 'incident'. The comments on 'speed cameras' should give you an idea about people's attitude to safety on the roads.
Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.
The recent 'incident' at Bear Cross says it all really. This 'incident' should give you some clue as to the quality of the gene pool in this part of the world... There should have been a nomination for a Darwin Award if nothing else. It's the emergency services people I feel for... I would not want to deal with a mess like that. They have my greatest admiration.
A lot of accidents are caused by drivers not driving too often and coming out once a week "driving miss daisy", I do in excess of 60k miles a year and I don't hang about, but I drive safe but it is the incompetence that causes accidents not necessarily speed all the time. In all the miles I drive I have never had a fault accident and not had one for 13 years, both accidents I have been involved in are when I have been stationary at a junction........ I see so many near misses due to incompetence but hardly any relating to speed!
scrumpyjack
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2:14pm Fri 14 Dec 12
ceri_smarty wrote:Spelling and not rambling is though.
scrumpyjack wrote:Wow, an expert on traffic control and judgement of others! Gold star to you my friend! I am sorry your soooo jealous of my little smart car that I work very hard to pay for. Why don't you go and look at one and see what I am saying? You obviously want a safe car that isn't as expensive as whatever you are driving - sorry, I forgot, you think I am stuck up - your so nieve, that you wish to pay ALOT more to travel than I do. Good luck with that! :) Caring isn't a strong point for you eh?
ceri_smarty wrote:it really annoys me when silly cows are really up their own ar5e.
It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.
'Ooooh look everyone I've got a Smart car and they are like really, really expensive'.
(especially when you are a crud driver and keep crashing it eh?)
ceri_smarty
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2:19pm Fri 14 Dec 12
scrumpyjack wrote:Funny! Grammar clearly isn't! :)
ceri_smarty wrote:Spelling and not rambling is though.
scrumpyjack wrote:Wow, an expert on traffic control and judgement of others! Gold star to you my friend! I am sorry your soooo jealous of my little smart car that I work very hard to pay for. Why don't you go and look at one and see what I am saying? You obviously want a safe car that isn't as expensive as whatever you are driving - sorry, I forgot, you think I am stuck up - your so nieve, that you wish to pay ALOT more to travel than I do. Good luck with that! :) Caring isn't a strong point for you eh?
ceri_smarty wrote:it really annoys me when silly cows are really up their own ar5e.
It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.
'Ooooh look everyone I've got a Smart car and they are like really, really expensive'.
(especially when you are a crud driver and keep crashing it eh?)
scrumpyjack
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2:28pm Fri 14 Dec 12
retry69
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2:32pm Fri 14 Dec 12
EGHH
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4:46pm Fri 14 Dec 12
Earl wrote:Ah I forgot Siemens use this area for testing. Yuo just have drive the length of Broadstone Way to see the number of their cameras / systems on test.
Phixer wrote:Actually the traffic had backed up from the Cooper Dean along the slip road as Seimens appeared to be playing around with the traffic lights, and traffic heading towards Ringwood were suddenly confronted with stationary traffic whilst supposing the show of brake lights ahead of them was caused by the usual slowing down at the speed cameras and not realizing that the vehicles ahead were in fact stationary.
EGHH wrote:Why should it? And twice in one week is hardly 'continual'.
Is this anything to do with the continual failure of the traffic lights there?
One does exagerate.
phil53
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5:10pm Sat 15 Dec 12
EGHH says...
4:36pm Wed 12 Dec 12