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| TME IS VERY SHORT: Ian Gillan backing the Weymouth anti-relief road campaign |
A DORSET-BASED rock star has joined the fight to halt the
building of the Weymouth relief road.
Ian Gillan, who is lead singer of heavy metal legends Deep Purple, has thrown his support behind
campaign group Bypass the Bypass.
The rocker, who lives in Lyme Regis, has urged people to get involved and oppose the £84 million project.
Environmental groups Transport 2000 and the Campaign to Protect Rural England (CPRE) are fighting to get the scheme scrapped.
They asked the High Court for a
judicial review into the granting of
planning permission for the road, but the application was thrown out.
Now Mr Gillan has joined forces with campaigners.
He said: "As a Dorset resident I fully support the group Bypass the Bypass that stands in opposition to building the proposed Weymouth relief road.
"I urge you to read the points presented on the group's website, www.bypassthe bypass.org, and weigh them against the statements made by Dorset County Council.
"Dorset County Council needs to be fully tested with regards to the integrity of this programme. Time is very short,so if you feel inclined to be active' please contact the website and do whatever you can to help."
Deep Purple have achieved stardom with their anthem Smoke on the Water as well as such tracks as Highway Star, Speed King, Burn and Space Truckin',
Guy Dickinson, one of the founders of Bypass the Bypass, said protesters would keep on fighting despite the High Court ruling.
"The bottom line is we've always wanted an independent inquiry of some sort," he said.
"We don't understand why we haven't had one.
Disappointed
"We were very disappointed. No-one, the pro-roaders included if their case is that strong, should have anything to loseor worry about. We feel that such damage to the countryside has been planned with no alternatives adequately explored. The scheme needs further independent scrutiny."
A six-week public inquiry into compulsory purchase orders on the site has now been scheduled to start on November 6.
Dorset CPRE chairman Howard Thomas said priority funding has still not been given to the scheme by the Government.
Evidence
He said: "There are still several hurdles Dorset County Council has to jump. We'll be doing our best to make sure they fall at one of them.
"Our priority now is to provide evidence for the compulsory purchase orders inquiry. We'll be taking full advantage of that opportunity.
"All we've ever wanted is a public inquiry to explore whether there is a need for the road."
But Mr Thomas said any direct action from anti-road campaigners was unlikely.
He added: "We just don't think it's effective. I've never known any such action stopping a scheme from going ahead."
9:00am Monday 27th August 2007
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CommentPosted by: Albo, Wyke Regis on 10:00am Mon 27 Aug 07
You are cordially invited to a Deep Purple record-burning party, tonight, Albo's beach-front place, Wyke Regis.
I'll give him smoke on the water.
You are cordially invited to a Deep Purple record-burning party, tonight, Albo's beach-front place, Wyke Regis.
I'll give him smoke on the water.
Posted by: William, Weymouth on 10:47am Mon 27 Aug 07
These anti-road protestors really are just a pathetic bunch aren't they? And they are looking more and more desperate every day - what a bunch of fools! What next from this lot? So what gives Mr Gillan (who probably lives in an isolated rural idyll – far away from the madding crowd) the right to tell us what is good for us?
Democracy has spoken - accept it!
These anti-road protestors really are just a pathetic bunch aren't they? And they are looking more and more desperate every day - what a bunch of fools! What next from this lot? So what gives Mr Gillan (who probably lives in an isolated rural idyll – far away from the madding crowd) the right to tell us what is good for us?
Democracy has spoken - accept it!
Posted by: rancid rocker, cloud 9 on 10:52am Mon 27 Aug 07
We have waited for this relife road since befor Ian had his first six string. I do find it a little bit gauling that somebody who has made his cash by world wide sell out stadiumtours should be telling anybody how to protect the environment, and let face it he aint bothered about jobs coming to the area plus Lyme Regis had a by pass
We have waited for this relife road since befor Ian had his first six string. I do find it a little bit gauling that somebody who has made his cash by world wide sell out stadiumtours should be telling anybody how to protect the environment, and let face it he aint bothered about jobs coming to the area plus Lyme Regis had a by pass
Posted by: Puff the Magic Dragon, By the Sea on 10:57am Mon 27 Aug 07
This is just laughable and complete nonsense. Please go away and play with your instrument somewhere else!
This is just laughable and complete nonsense. Please go away and play with your instrument somewhere else!
Posted by: Terry, weymuff on 11:28am Mon 27 Aug 07
I wonder how many days of the year he actually spends travelling down the 'cart track' that is called the A354 between Dorchester and Weymouth, mind you it has been improved since they took out the original direct route over the Ridgeway that runs past The Old Ship Inn:-)
I wonder how many days of the year he actually spends travelling down the 'cart track' that is called the A354 between Dorchester and Weymouth, mind you it has been improved since they took out the original direct route over the Ridgeway that runs past The Old Ship Inn:-)
Posted by: Terry, weymuff on 11:32am Mon 27 Aug 07
Perhaps he would like to hear our view of his actions - caramba@octafish.net
Perhaps he would like to hear our view of his actions - caramba@octafish.net
Posted by: SpyInTheSky, The Real World on 12:20pm Mon 27 Aug 07
[quote][bold]Terry[/bold] wrote:
I wonder how many days of the year he actually spends travelling down the 'cart track' that is called the A354 between Dorchester and Weymouth, mind you it has been improved since they took out the original direct route over the Ridgeway that runs past The Old Ship Inn:-)[/quote] I must admit, you have a better memory than I have. I can't remember that far back.
Terry wrote:
I wonder how many days of the year he actually spends travelling down the 'cart track' that is called the A354 between Dorchester and Weymouth, mind you it has been improved since they took out the original direct route over the Ridgeway that runs past The Old Ship Inn:-)
I must admit, you have a better memory than I have. I can't remember that far back.
Posted by: Adi Nuff on 1:21pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Lyme Regis Eh?
How does he get from there to here then? Does he float /fly or what?Perhaps he bikes over,courtesy of a nice few straight roads. So much for his dedication to his antis then , another rat from out of the woodpile. Does he need a bit of publicity , desperate perhaps? Go back and practise your strumming old thing, or learn the spoons!!!!
Lyme Regis Eh?
How does he get from there to here then? Does he float /fly or what?Perhaps he bikes over,courtesy of a nice few straight roads. So much for his dedication to his antis then , another rat from out of the woodpile. Does he need a bit of publicity , desperate perhaps? Go back and practise your strumming old thing, or learn the spoons!!!!
Posted by: Sue Allan, Portland on 1:24pm Mon 27 Aug 07
We have waited a long long time for this relief road. I notice most of the Bypass the Bypass group do not live in Wemouth or Portland anyway so how dare they object to us getting a decent access road at long last.
We have waited a long long time for this relief road. I notice most of the Bypass the Bypass group do not live in Wemouth or Portland anyway so how dare they object to us getting a decent access road at long last.
Posted by: Tru Belle on 1:27pm Mon 27 Aug 07
PS,
I guess that aging rockers have to think of some cause or other when they are sitting under the hairdryer,( nice perm though) don't worry it will add to your creases, that road WILL be built.
PS,
I guess that aging rockers have to think of some cause or other when they are sitting under the hairdryer,( nice perm though) don't worry it will add to your creases, that road WILL be built.
Posted by: paul, weymouth on 1:28pm Mon 27 Aug 07
go stick your guitar were the sun doesnt shine,and let weymouth people have there road[bold]bold[/bold]
go stick your guitar were the sun doesnt shine,and let weymouth people have there road
Posted by: Terry, weymuff on 1:29pm Mon 27 Aug 07
[quote][bold]SpyInTheSky, The Real World[/bold][/quote] No, whatever impression I gave, I am not quite that old but I was looking at an old map.
SpyInTheSky, The Real World
No, whatever impression I gave, I am not quite that old but I was looking at an old map.
Posted by: Old Broadwey Resident, Choked Broadwey on 1:30pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Shame Ian Gillan is not here in Broadwey today, as the village is currently choked with crawling traffic and the queue into Weymouth stretches over the Ridgeway. It has been like this all morning and as any local will tell you, most days are the same!
He refers to the Bypass the Bypass web site as being the bearer of the truth...unfortunatel
y the information on this website is at best flawed and in certain cases pure conjecture!
NO...if you want the real story just come and spend a day outside my house in Broadwey, but be there by 05:30 and stay until after 19:00 and you'll get a true understanding why this relief road is long, long overdue!
[bold]Relief Road Now[/bold]
Shame Ian Gillan is not here in Broadwey today, as the village is currently choked with crawling traffic and the queue into Weymouth stretches over the Ridgeway. It has been like this all morning and as any local will tell you, most days are the same!
He refers to the Bypass the Bypass web site as being the bearer of the truth...unfortunatel
y the information on this website is at best flawed and in certain cases pure conjecture!
NO...if you want the real story just come and spend a day outside my house in Broadwey, but be there by 05:30 and stay until after 19:00 and you'll get a true understanding why this relief road is long, long overdue!
Relief Road Now Posted by: Terry, weymuff on 1:34pm Mon 27 Aug 07
I sent him an email at the email address given above but he hasn't had the courtesy to reply, as said above, probably still under the hair-dryer.
I sent him an email at the email address given above but he hasn't had the courtesy to reply, as said above, probably still under the hair-dryer.
Posted by: neutron star on 2:15pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Purple rinse anyone?
So what's Billy Bragg's position on this anyway? Like anyone cares....
Purple rinse anyone?
So what's Billy Bragg's position on this anyway? Like anyone cares....
Posted by: Tru Belle on 2:33pm Mon 27 Aug 07
This looks like no ordinary hairdo, if you are reading this IAN Gillam please tell us all. Down the motorway somewhere,once you get off the minor roads and beat the traffic that is, appointment was it?? ?had to leave in good time to get there did you? how long then, to get there. Roads very busy ?? Looks very expensive, mmmm!
This looks like no ordinary hairdo, if you are reading this IAN Gillam please tell us all. Down the motorway somewhere,once you get off the minor roads and beat the traffic that is, appointment was it?? ?had to leave in good time to get there did you? how long then, to get there. Roads very busy ?? Looks very expensive, mmmm!
Posted by: Jerry on 2:45pm Mon 27 Aug 07
If, as Mr Dickinson says: [quote]"the pro-roaders ... , should have anything to lose or worry about"[/quote] , Then why is he advocating wasting Taxpayers money ([bold]OUR MONEY[/bold] ) on a futile inquiry? Futile because he seems to think that it's going to happen anyway (which it is).
Why not ask all the people who live along Dorchester Road what [italic]they[/italic] would like. Probably a bit of peace and quiet, less fumes and the ability to get out of their own driveways without waiting half a day for a break in the relentless traffic!
If, as Mr Dickinson says:
"the pro-roaders ... , should have anything to lose or worry about"
, Then why is he advocating wasting Taxpayers money (
OUR MONEY ) on a futile inquiry? Futile because he seems to think that it's going to happen anyway (which it is).
Why not ask all the people who live along Dorchester Road what
they would like. Probably a bit of peace and quiet, less fumes and the ability to get out of their own driveways without waiting half a day for a break in the relentless traffic!
Posted by: David W Jones, Portland on 2:45pm Mon 27 Aug 07
I find it quite incredible that the majority of protesters to the relief road do not live anywhere near the area of most concern.
They have no idea of the delays and frustration that local people face every day in trying to leave Weymouth when they work in Dorchester or beyond.This latest FRONT PAGE item in the ECHO 27th August is a typical example:- ROCKER BACKS PROTEST, for god sake Ian Gillian lives in Lyme Regis, what does he know of the problems or even cares. It's a pity that the DORSET ECHO plays up to these people, In my opinion they are simply seeking a bit of publicity, he can sit back on his millions while the rest of us try to make a living.It's about time the Dorset ECHO backed the local people who want a relief road.
I find it quite incredible that the majority of protesters to the relief road do not live anywhere near the area of most concern.
They have no idea of the delays and frustration that local people face every day in trying to leave Weymouth when they work in Dorchester or beyond.This latest FRONT PAGE item in the ECHO 27th August is a typical example:- ROCKER BACKS PROTEST, for god sake Ian Gillian lives in Lyme Regis, what does he know of the problems or even cares. It's a pity that the DORSET ECHO plays up to these people, In my opinion they are simply seeking a bit of publicity, he can sit back on his millions while the rest of us try to make a living.It's about time the Dorset ECHO backed the local people who want a relief road.
Posted by: guy, dorchester on 2:49pm Mon 27 Aug 07
dear mr. gillam
you live in lyme regis yes?
do you commute to work daily from dorchester to weymouth?
no?
well repectfuly shut the **** up!!
dear mr. gillam
you live in lyme regis yes?
do you commute to work daily from dorchester to weymouth?
no?
well repectfuly shut the **** up!!
Posted by: Tru Belle on 3:19pm Mon 27 Aug 07
MESSAGE TO ALL AGING ROCKERS , WRITERS ACTORS, PAINTERS,FILM DIRECTORS, AND ANY OTHER ARTY **** WHO WANTS TO MEDDLE IN THIS AREAS ISSUES, GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.
ANY ONE ELSE WHO SUDDENLY DECIDES TO HOP ON THE BANDWAGON AND DECIDES THEY HAVE A CARBON FOOTPRINT TO JUSTIFY, CLEAR OFF ON HOLIDAY, DO SOME THINKING AND THEN DECIDE ABOUT YOUR LOYALTY TO THE ECONOMY OF THE AREA,
tHIS ROAD HAS TO BE BUILT, I CANNOT PUT IT MORE STRONGLY THAN THAT!!!!!
MESSAGE TO ALL AGING ROCKERS , WRITERS ACTORS, PAINTERS,FILM DIRECTORS, AND ANY OTHER ARTY **** WHO WANTS TO MEDDLE IN THIS AREAS ISSUES, GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.
ANY ONE ELSE WHO SUDDENLY DECIDES TO HOP ON THE BANDWAGON AND DECIDES THEY HAVE A CARBON FOOTPRINT TO JUSTIFY, CLEAR OFF ON HOLIDAY, DO SOME THINKING AND THEN DECIDE ABOUT YOUR LOYALTY TO THE ECONOMY OF THE AREA,
tHIS ROAD HAS TO BE BUILT, I CANNOT PUT IT MORE STRONGLY THAN THAT!!!!!
Posted by: AL44, Weymouth on 3:34pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Well said, Tru Belle!
I used to drive through Lyme Regis on a regular basis from Weymouth and it was a real nightmare until they built the bypass. I suppose it is ok for you (native Londoners), but not us eh?
What next Ozzy telling us to 'bypass the bypass?' lol
Well said, Tru Belle!
I used to drive through Lyme Regis on a regular basis from Weymouth and it was a real nightmare until they built the bypass. I suppose it is ok for you (native Londoners), but not us eh?
What next Ozzy telling us to 'bypass the bypass?' lol
Posted by: Ian Gillan, Lyme Regis on 3:38pm Mon 27 Aug 07
To those of you who have been filling my inbox with comments on my support of the Bypass.
I am a citizen and a taxpayer in West Dorset and i am entitled to wish to preserve our countryside. The fact that i do not live in Weymouth has little to do with it. The bypass is bad for birdies and butterflies and all the other lovely fluttery things that i enjoy watching when stoned.
To those of you who have been filling my inbox with comments on my support of the Bypass.
I am a citizen and a taxpayer in West Dorset and i am entitled to wish to preserve our countryside. The fact that i do not live in Weymouth has little to do with it. The bypass is bad for birdies and butterflies and all the other lovely fluttery things that i enjoy watching when stoned.
Posted by: JJ, Weymouth (yes local) on 3:39pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Why not ask the people of Littlemoor if they want a highway inches from their windows and doors?
Why not ask the people of Littlemoor if they want a highway inches from their windows and doors?
Posted by: Gladys, The high ground on 3:39pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Even when making snide comments, the pro-roaders seem to have little use for facts, despite them being printed clearly within the article. Try reading it again. Ian Gillan is a singer. He does not play guitar. Ritchie Blackmore was Deep Purple's guitarist.
Even when making snide comments, the pro-roaders seem to have little use for facts, despite them being printed clearly within the article. Try reading it again. Ian Gillan is a singer. He does not play guitar. Ritchie Blackmore was Deep Purple's guitarist.
Posted by: James Young, Dorchester on 3:40pm Mon 27 Aug 07
[quote][bold]JJ[/bold] wrote:
Why not ask the people of Littlemoor if they want a highway inches from their windows and doors?[/quote] This bypass has been in the offing for more than 30 years. I bought a house in Reedling Close in 1993, and at that time the road was going to run off the roundabout there. I think the people of Littlemoor have had ample time to move away had it been that concerning to them.
JJ wrote:
Why not ask the people of Littlemoor if they want a highway inches from their windows and doors?
This bypass has been in the offing for more than 30 years. I bought a house in Reedling Close in 1993, and at that time the road was going to run off the roundabout there. I think the people of Littlemoor have had ample time to move away had it been that concerning to them.
Posted by: Tru Belle on 4:08pm Mon 27 Aug 07
[quote][bold]Gladys[/bold] wrote:
Even when making snide comments, the pro-roaders seem to have little use for facts, despite them being printed clearly within the article. Try reading it again. Ian Gillan is a singer. He does not play guitar. Ritchie Blackmore was Deep Purple's guitarist.[/quote] Dear Gladys,
Singer , guitar player, or what ever they may be , they are still singing from the same song sheet. Plenty of use for facts, and we are all getting rather weary of spelling the message out to those who know that this has been going on for years, but have decided to stick their oar in now. WHERE were you all then Eh. Snide comments seem to be pretty much coming from your direction.
This drum call says :
ROAD BUILT NOW.
Gladys wrote:
Even when making snide comments, the pro-roaders seem to have little use for facts, despite them being printed clearly within the article. Try reading it again. Ian Gillan is a singer. He does not play guitar. Ritchie Blackmore was Deep Purple's guitarist.
Dear Gladys,
Singer , guitar player, or what ever they may be , they are still singing from the same song sheet. Plenty of use for facts, and we are all getting rather weary of spelling the message out to those who know that this has been going on for years, but have decided to stick their oar in now. WHERE were you all then Eh. Snide comments seem to be pretty much coming from your direction.
This drum call says :
ROAD BUILT NOW.
Posted by: Terry, weymuff on 4:42pm Mon 27 Aug 07
[quote][bold]To those of you who have been filling my inbox with comments on my support of the Bypass.[/bold][/quote] I do hope that Ian Gillan continues to get his feathers ruffled, That will perhaps teach him not to stick his proboscis where it is not wanted. Did he do it to get some publicity? Any way, just in case you missed it, you can send him a message(of support or otherwise) by email to caramba@octafish.net
To those of you who have been filling my inbox with comments on my support of the Bypass.
I do hope that Ian Gillan continues to get his feathers ruffled, That will perhaps teach him not to stick his proboscis where it is not wanted. Did he do it to get some publicity? Any way, just in case you missed it, you can send him a message(of support or otherwise) by email to caramba@octafish.net
Posted by: David Beaman, Weymouth on 5:09pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Don't let anyone underestimate the depths to which the anti-road protest group will sink - those of us in favour of the road and the social, economic and environmental benefits that the road and its associated park and ride development will bring must remain vigilent and continue to support Dorset County Council until all the hurdles have been cleared.
Don't let anyone underestimate the depths to which the anti-road protest group will sink - those of us in favour of the road and the social, economic and environmental benefits that the road and its associated park and ride development will bring must remain vigilent and continue to support Dorset County Council until all the hurdles have been cleared.
Posted by: Tru Belle on 5:09pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Deep Purple and the Purple Phantom, are they the same thing? The colour purple appears to be popular today.
Would appear that the Phantom has poked himself in the eye also, as regards the Cerne giant!
So what goes on then, life is full of coincidences.
Deep Purple and the Purple Phantom, are they the same thing? The colour purple appears to be popular today.
Would appear that the Phantom has poked himself in the eye also, as regards the Cerne giant!
So what goes on then, life is full of coincidences.
Posted by: George, Weymouth on 5:20pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Remember, because Ian Gillan is/was in a band his view is far more knowledgeable and important than anyone elses .
He's made his cash, trucked giggs, merchandise, and flown around the world countless times and now wants to settle quietly in chocolate box Dorset. He wants YOU to sit in congestion, he doesnt want you have the new cycleways and he doesnt want you to have the new public transport route on the old road.
These people make me sick, they either dont live in weymouth or dont have to use the road every day for work.
They want YOUR children to have no future in the town, oh apart from summer jobs serving them their pimms, as the tourist industry will be all that bothers being here, [and prisons]
Ian, do something useful with your life please!
Start a campaign for real jobs for our kids, or better still invest in some industry here that doesnt need transport, otherwise, shut up
Remember, because Ian Gillan is/was in a band his view is far more knowledgeable and important than anyone elses .
He's made his cash, trucked giggs, merchandise, and flown around the world countless times and now wants to settle quietly in chocolate box Dorset. He wants YOU to sit in congestion, he doesnt want you have the new cycleways and he doesnt want you to have the new public transport route on the old road.
These people make me sick, they either dont live in weymouth or dont have to use the road every day for work.
They want YOUR children to have no future in the town, oh apart from summer jobs serving them their pimms, as the tourist industry will be all that bothers being here,
Ian, do something useful with your life please!
Start a campaign for real jobs for our kids, or better still invest in some industry here that doesnt need transport, otherwise, shut up
Posted by: Leo, weymouth on 5:37pm Mon 27 Aug 07
[quote]Don't let anyone underestimate the depths to which the anti-road protest group will sink - those of us in favour of the road and the social, economic and environmental benefits that the road and its associated park and ride development will bring must remain vigilent and continue to support Dorset County Council until all the hurdles have been cleared.[/quote] Not seen such a collection of moronic garbage for ages - what you'd expect from a bunch of road ragers I guess. This quote from Mr Beaman perhaps takes the biscuit. The so called lib dem who tried to get in on the opposite policy of his party. Try running some half decent buses instead, Mr Beaman.
Don't let anyone underestimate the depths to which the anti-road protest group will sink - those of us in favour of the road and the social, economic and environmental benefits that the road and its associated park and ride development will bring must remain vigilent and continue to support Dorset County Council until all the hurdles have been cleared.
Not seen such a collection of moronic garbage for ages - what you'd expect from a bunch of road ragers I guess. This quote from Mr Beaman perhaps takes the biscuit. The so called lib dem who tried to get in on the opposite policy of his party. Try running some half decent buses instead, Mr Beaman.
Posted by: Dumbo on 6:12pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Even if half decent buses were to run, they would still get stuck behind half decent caravans, and half decent 35ton lorries and 4x4s,and half decent ciizens going about their busy lives running granny to here and grandad to there and visiting Auntie, and going to a funeral and keeping an appointment , going to a wedding,physio, chemo, church , concert, shopping ,theatre,dog to the vets, doctors,
These are the lives we all lead. And when the weather isn't kind, there is a different take altogether. Please be united on this one.
Do not waste a penny more on enquiries etc, get the road built.
Even if half decent buses were to run, they would still get stuck behind half decent caravans, and half decent 35ton lorries and 4x4s,and half decent ciizens going about their busy lives running granny to here and grandad to there and visiting Auntie, and going to a funeral and keeping an appointment , going to a wedding,physio, chemo, church , concert, shopping ,theatre,dog to the vets, doctors,
These are the lives we all lead. And when the weather isn't kind, there is a different take altogether. Please be united on this one.
Do not waste a penny more on enquiries etc, get the road built.
Posted by: brenda, oregon on 6:24pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Well, who rattled your cages then? I hope your evidence for the upcoming public enquiry is a bit more convincing than this load of vitriolic nonsense, else no contest!
Well, who rattled your cages then? I hope your evidence for the upcoming public enquiry is a bit more convincing than this load of vitriolic nonsense, else no contest!
Posted by: countrylover, weymouth on 6:40pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Have any of you blinkered pro-roaders taken time to notice how much this road has gone up? The last time I saw it it was £77m now it's £84m. How much will it cost us ratepayers by the time it eventually gets built? Whatever the cost it's far too much for the wholesale destruction of our rapidly diminishing countryside for the sake of a few selfish drivers who cannot bear to sit in a traffic jam now and then.
Have any of you blinkered pro-roaders taken time to notice how much this road has gone up? The last time I saw it it was £77m now it's £84m. How much will it cost us ratepayers by the time it eventually gets built? Whatever the cost it's far too much for the wholesale destruction of our rapidly diminishing countryside for the sake of a few selfish drivers who cannot bear to sit in a traffic jam now and then.
Posted by: commonsense, Weymouth on 6:55pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Wow - what a spiteful childish bunch of ignoramus's most of you are!
Firstly, ALL of the Bypass group are based in Weymouth or Dorchester - the fact that they have plenty of support from further afield than that just shows that intelligent people can be found all over the world. And anyway, ANYONE is entitled to have an opinion about this - it is NOT just a local issue - "Think global, act local" - in other words, grow up and start taking some responsibility for your actions and understand the impact they have.
Secondly, it is clear that almost all of the pro-roaders (perhaps "road ragers" is a more apt term) haven't even bothered to avail themselves of the arguments - the information is all there for anyone to read - so before you start spewing out personal spiteful bile why don't you do your brain the courtesy of actually reading up on the facts?
Thirdly, almost the only reason that the road between Weymouth and Dorchester sometimes gets a bit clogged up (and for goodness sake you pro-road lot PLEASE stop insulting everyone's intelligence by exaggerating the delays - even on a bad day it only takes 10-15 minutes to drive from Dorchester to Weymouth - I've done it a thousand times at rush hour) is all those lazy commuters who DRIVE between Dorchester and Weymouth on a daily basis when more than 90% don't even NEED their cars during the day so what is the point? [bold]You are the architect of your own problems! [/bold] Weymouth and Dorchester are supplied with perfectly good train stations - two each if I'm not mistaken - so many of those commuters could get the train. You could also get the bus, or cycle or take a motorbike - or share a car with work colleagues - there are plenty of options for behaving more responsibly. The pro-roaders come across as ignorant, arrogant, selfish, parochial and unbelievably rude - just the sort of people who insist on driving a car for completely unnecessary journeys thus clogging up the roads when much better alternatives exist.
Fourthly, a bypass will NOT SOLVE ANYTHING - how many times do you need to be told? Surely you can't be that stupid? It will just be a parallel road carving up the countryside - it won't actually BYPASS anything - it'll just clog up Weymouth and Dorchester with even more traffic being dumped more quickly into each town at either end! How can anyone not understand that? Almost all of the congestion problems (such as they are) are caused by the Littlemoor lights - replace them with a roundabout as has been proposed many, many times and the traffic will run much more smoothly.
Maybe the reason Dorset County Council is behaving like such an unimaginative dinosaur and doesn't feel the need to come up with intelligent, simple, proven solutions is because it knows that most of its electorate are also unimaginative dinosaurs who actually believe they are being governed democratically and who honestly believe that this road is going to bring any kind of benefit - the same kind of people who in centuries gone by would have sworn on their lives that the world was flat. Sad, sad, sad.
Let me put a challenge to all you pro-roaders: why don't you clear your mind of all your pre-conceived prejudices - imagine that you have no opinion one way or the other - then start again reading up on the arguments - actually [bold]read[/bold] all the arguments against on the bypass website instead of just imagining that you already know them - then try for a week or so commuting between Weymouth and Dorchester by another means other than one person one car and while you're at it - look at the beautiful countryside around you. Then imagine that you had to do two or three hours' commute evey day in and out or around London on the tube, the bus, whatever (which is what most Londoners have to do) and then thank your lucky stars, stop moaning about a 10 or 15 minute car journey, start appreciating what you do have around you and think about what you are going to be leaving for your children and stop just concentrating on your own personal comfort zone.
I find it really, really, depressing that the people who lobby the hardest for the road and the ones who are the most vitriolic and blinkered in their attacks are precisely those who are causing the most damage to our beautiful Dorset countryside. If you really care so little about our lovely county then why don't you go and live somewhere more urban and take your spiteful hatred there? Then, maybe you might start to realise how lucky you were.
Wow - what a spiteful childish bunch of ignoramus's most of you are!
Firstly, ALL of the Bypass group are based in Weymouth or Dorchester - the fact that they have plenty of support from further afield than that just shows that intelligent people can be found all over the world. And anyway, ANYONE is entitled to have an opinion about this - it is NOT just a local issue - "Think global, act local" - in other words, grow up and start taking some responsibility for your actions and understand the impact they have.
Secondly, it is clear that almost all of the pro-roaders (perhaps "road ragers" is a more apt term) haven't even bothered to avail themselves of the arguments - the information is all there for anyone to read - so before you start spewing out personal spiteful bile why don't you do your brain the courtesy of actually reading up on the facts?
Thirdly, almost the only reason that the road between Weymouth and Dorchester sometimes gets a bit clogged up (and for goodness sake you pro-road lot PLEASE stop insulting everyone's intelligence by exaggerating the delays - even on a bad day it only takes 10-15 minutes to drive from Dorchester to Weymouth - I've done it a thousand times at rush hour) is all those lazy commuters who DRIVE between Dorchester and Weymouth on a daily basis when more than 90% don't even NEED their cars during the day so what is the point?
You are the architect of your own problems! Weymouth and Dorchester are supplied with perfectly good train stations - two each if I'm not mistaken - so many of those commuters could get the train. You could also get the bus, or cycle or take a motorbike - or share a car with work colleagues - there are plenty of options for behaving more responsibly. The pro-roaders come across as ignorant, arrogant, selfish, parochial and unbelievably rude - just the sort of people who insist on driving a car for completely unnecessary journeys thus clogging up the roads when much better alternatives exist.
Fourthly, a bypass will NOT SOLVE ANYTHING - how many times do you need to be told? Surely you can't be that stupid? It will just be a parallel road carving up the countryside - it won't actually BYPASS anything - it'll just clog up Weymouth and Dorchester with even more traffic being dumped more quickly into each town at either end! How can anyone not understand that? Almost all of the congestion problems (such as they are) are caused by the Littlemoor lights - replace them with a roundabout as has been proposed many, many times and the traffic will run much more smoothly.
Maybe the reason Dorset County Council is behaving like such an unimaginative dinosaur and doesn't feel the need to come up with intelligent, simple, proven solutions is because it knows that most of its electorate are also unimaginative dinosaurs who actually believe they are being governed democratically and who honestly believe that this road is going to bring any kind of benefit - the same kind of people who in centuries gone by would have sworn on their lives that the world was flat. Sad, sad, sad.
Let me put a challenge to all you pro-roaders: why don't you clear your mind of all your pre-conceived prejudices - imagine that you have no opinion one way or the other - then start again reading up on the arguments - actually
read all the arguments against on the bypass website instead of just imagining that you already know them - then try for a week or so commuting between Weymouth and Dorchester by another means other than one person one car and while you're at it - look at the beautiful countryside around you. Then imagine that you had to do two or three hours' commute evey day in and out or around London on the tube, the bus, whatever (which is what most Londoners have to do) and then thank your lucky stars, stop moaning about a 10 or 15 minute car journey, start appreciating what you do have around you and think about what you are going to be leaving for your children and stop just concentrating on your own personal comfort zone.
I find it really, really, depressing that the people who lobby the hardest for the road and the ones who are the most vitriolic and blinkered in their attacks are precisely those who are causing the most damage to our beautiful Dorset countryside. If you really care so little about our lovely county then why don't you go and live somewhere more urban and take your spiteful hatred there? Then, maybe you might start to realise how lucky you were.
Posted by: Leo, weymouth on 7:08pm Mon 27 Aug 07
[quote]Don't let anyone underestimate the depths to which the anti-road protest group will sink - those of us in favour of the road and the social, economic and environmental benefits that the road and its associated park and ride development will bring must remain vigilent and continue to support Dorset County Council until all the hurdles have been cleared.[/quote] Not seen such a collection of moronic garbage for ages - what you'd expect from a bunch of road ragers I guess. This quote from Mr Beaman perhaps takes the biscuit. The so called lib dem who tried to get in on the opposite policy of his party. Try running some half decent buses instead, Mr Beaman.
Don't let anyone underestimate the depths to which the anti-road protest group will sink - those of us in favour of the road and the social, economic and environmental benefits that the road and its associated park and ride development will bring must remain vigilent and continue to support Dorset County Council until all the hurdles have been cleared.
Not seen such a collection of moronic garbage for ages - what you'd expect from a bunch of road ragers I guess. This quote from Mr Beaman perhaps takes the biscuit. The so called lib dem who tried to get in on the opposite policy of his party. Try running some half decent buses instead, Mr Beaman.
Posted by: jac, Weymouth on 7:14pm Mon 27 Aug 07
[quote][bold]commonsense[/bold] wrote:
Wow - what a spiteful childish bunch of ignoramus's most of you are! Firstly, ALL of the Bypass group are based in Weymouth or Dorchester - the fact that they have plenty of support from further afield than that just shows that intelligent people can be found all over the world. And anyway, ANYONE is entitled to have an opinion about this - it is NOT just a local issue - "Think global, act local" - in other words, grow up and start taking some responsibility for your actions and understand the impact they have. Secondly, it is clear that almost all of the pro-roaders (perhaps "road ragers" is a more apt term) haven't even bothered to avail themselves of the arguments - the information is all there for anyone to read - so before you start spewing out personal spiteful bile why don't you do your brain the courtesy of actually reading up on the facts? Thirdly, almost the only reason that the road between Weymouth and Dorchester sometimes gets a bit clogged up (and for goodness sake you pro-road lot PLEASE stop insulting everyone's intelligence by exaggerating the delays - even on a bad day it only takes 10-15 minutes to drive from Dorchester to Weymouth - I've done it a thousand times at rush hour) is all those lazy commuters who DRIVE between Dorchester and Weymouth on a daily basis when more than 90% don't even NEED their cars during the day so what is the point? [bold]You are the architect of your own problems! [/bold] Weymouth and Dorchester are supplied with perfectly good train stations - two each if I'm not mistaken - so many of those commuters could get the train. You could also get the bus, or cycle or take a motorbike - or share a car with work colleagues - there are plenty of options for behaving more responsibly. The pro-roaders come across as ignorant, arrogant, selfish, parochial and unbelievably rude - just the sort of people who insist on driving a car for completely unnecessary journeys thus clogging up the roads when much better alternatives exist. Fourthly, a bypass will NOT SOLVE ANYTHING - how many times do you need to be told? Surely you can't be that stupid? It will just be a parallel road carving up the countryside - it won't actually BYPASS anything - it'll just clog up Weymouth and Dorchester with even more traffic being dumped more quickly into each town at either end! How can anyone not understand that? Almost all of the congestion problems (such as they are) are caused by the Littlemoor lights - replace them with a roundabout as has been proposed many, many times and the traffic will run much more smoothly. Maybe the reason Dorset County Council is behaving like such an unimaginative dinosaur and doesn't feel the need to come up with intelligent, simple, proven solutions is because it knows that most of its electorate are also unimaginative dinosaurs who actually believe they are being governed democratically and who honestly believe that this road is going to bring any kind of benefit - the same kind of people who in centuries gone by would have sworn on their lives that the world was flat. Sad, sad, sad. Let me put a challenge to all you pro-roaders: why don't you clear your mind of all your pre-conceived prejudices - imagine that you have no opinion one way or the other - then start again reading up on the arguments - actually [bold]read[/bold] all the arguments against on the bypass website instead of just imagining that you already know them - then try for a week or so commuting between Weymouth and Dorchester by another means other than one person one car and while you're at it - look at the beautiful countryside around you. Then imagine that you had to do two or three hours' commute evey day in and out or around London on the tube, the bus, whatever (which is what most Londoners have to do) and then thank your lucky stars, stop moaning about a 10 or 15 minute car journey, start appreciating what you do have around you and think about what you are going to be leaving for your children and stop just concentrating on your own personal comfort zone. I find it really, really, depressing that the people who lobby the hardest for the road and the ones who are the most vitriolic and blinkered in their attacks are precisely those who are causing the most damage to our beautiful Dorset countryside. If you really care so little about our lovely county then why don't you go and live somewhere more urban and take your spiteful hatred there? Then, maybe you might start to realise how lucky you were. [/quote] Hark @ you!!!!
lol
commonsense wrote:
Wow - what a spiteful childish bunch of ignoramus's most of you are! Firstly, ALL of the Bypass group are based in Weymouth or Dorchester - the fact that they have plenty of support from further afield than that just shows that intelligent people can be found all over the world. And anyway, ANYONE is entitled to have an opinion about this - it is NOT just a local issue - "Think global, act local" - in other words, grow up and start taking some responsibility for your actions and understand the impact they have. Secondly, it is clear that almost all of the pro-roaders (perhaps "road ragers" is a more apt term) haven't even bothered to avail themselves of the arguments - the information is all there for anyone to read - so before you start spewing out personal spiteful bile why don't you do your brain the courtesy of actually reading up on the facts? Thirdly, almost the only reason that the road between Weymouth and Dorchester sometimes gets a bit clogged up (and for goodness sake you pro-road lot PLEASE stop insulting everyone's intelligence by exaggerating the delays - even on a bad day it only takes 10-15 minutes to drive from Dorchester to Weymouth - I've done it a thousand times at rush hour) is all those lazy commuters who DRIVE between Dorchester and Weymouth on a daily basis when more than 90% don't even NEED their cars during the day so what is the point? You are the architect of your own problems! Weymouth and Dorchester are supplied with perfectly good train stations - two each if I'm not mistaken - so many of those commuters could get the train. You could also get the bus, or cycle or take a motorbike - or share a car with work colleagues - there are plenty of options for behaving more responsibly. The pro-roaders come across as ignorant, arrogant, selfish, parochial and unbelievably rude - just the sort of people who insist on driving a car for completely unnecessary journeys thus clogging up the roads when much better alternatives exist. Fourthly, a bypass will NOT SOLVE ANYTHING - how many times do you need to be told? Surely you can't be that stupid? It will just be a parallel road carving up the countryside - it won't actually BYPASS anything - it'll just clog up Weymouth and Dorchester with even more traffic being dumped more quickly into each town at either end! How can anyone not understand that? Almost all of the congestion problems (such as they are) are caused by the Littlemoor lights - replace them with a roundabout as has been proposed many, many times and the traffic will run much more smoothly. Maybe the reason Dorset County Council is behaving like such an unimaginative dinosaur and doesn't feel the need to come up with intelligent, simple, proven solutions is because it knows that most of its electorate are also unimaginative dinosaurs who actually believe they are being governed democratically and who honestly believe that this road is going to bring any kind of benefit - the same kind of people who in centuries gone by would have sworn on their lives that the world was flat. Sad, sad, sad. Let me put a challenge to all you pro-roaders: why don't you clear your mind of all your pre-conceived prejudices - imagine that you have no opinion one way or the other - then start again reading up on the arguments - actually read all the arguments against on the bypass website instead of just imagining that you already know them - then try for a week or so commuting between Weymouth and Dorchester by another means other than one person one car and while you're at it - look at the beautiful countryside around you. Then imagine that you had to do two or three hours' commute evey day in and out or around London on the tube, the bus, whatever (which is what most Londoners have to do) and then thank your lucky stars, stop moaning about a 10 or 15 minute car journey, start appreciating what you do have around you and think about what you are going to be leaving for your children and stop just concentrating on your own personal comfort zone. I find it really, really, depressing that the people who lobby the hardest for the road and the ones who are the most vitriolic and blinkered in their attacks are precisely those who are causing the most damage to our beautiful Dorset countryside. If you really care so little about our lovely county then why don't you go and live somewhere more urban and take your spiteful hatred there? Then, maybe you might start to realise how lucky you were.
Hark @ you!!!!
lol
Posted by: Don Gill, Wilds of Wiltshire, many miles from a bypass! on 7:38pm Mon 27 Aug 07
To get 40 highly charged comments within hours of publication proves something!
I'm not sure why a comment from a has-been was considered as NEWS in the first place.......but, although the Echo has never been a NEWSPAPER, it is an excelent source of entertainment!!
To get 40 highly charged comments within hours of publication proves something!
I'm not sure why a comment from a has-been was considered as NEWS in the first place.......but, although the Echo has never been a NEWSPAPER, it is an excelent source of entertainment!!
Posted by: Ex-Pat, Ex-Pat on 7:39pm Mon 27 Aug 07
[quote][bold]brenda[/bold] wrote:
Well, who rattled your cages then? I hope your evidence for the upcoming public enquiry is a bit more convincing than this load of vitriolic nonsense, else no contest![/quote] The more RED tape the higher the cost!!!
FFS BUILD the ROAD and STOP bickering!!
If you don't like it F coff!!!
P.S Don't use the phrase I live here!!
So did I once but I left but I MISS IT Still.
If you wanna sort out the problem STOP the flood of IMUGRUNTS!!! coming in !!
Less Traffic, Less Crime, More Housing, More Jobs!!!
UK been SOLD OUT to IMPORTS!!!!
brenda wrote:
Well, who rattled your cages then? I hope your evidence for the upcoming public enquiry is a bit more convincing than this load of vitriolic nonsense, else no contest!
The more RED tape the higher the cost!!!
FFS BUILD the ROAD and STOP bickering!!
If you don't like it F coff!!!
P.S Don't use the phrase I live here!!
So did I once but I left but I MISS IT Still.
If you wanna sort out the problem STOP the flood of IMUGRUNTS!!! coming in !!
Less Traffic, Less Crime, More Housing, More Jobs!!!
UK been SOLD OUT to IMPORTS!!!!
Posted by: Axel.R,Ated on 7:53pm Mon 27 Aug 07
These comments would be so much nicer written in Latin.
I see the antis have got hot under the collar, and are stamping their feet.
Probably mostly women!!
Vituperative is the right word to describe these extensive outpourings, dear girls. Shows that you are not listening to those who know the score. THIS ROAD IS going to be built.
These comments would be so much nicer written in Latin.
I see the antis have got hot under the collar, and are stamping their feet.
Probably mostly women!!
Vituperative is the right word to describe these extensive outpourings, dear girls. Shows that you are not listening to those who know the score. THIS ROAD IS going to be built.
Posted by: Ex-Pat, Ex-Weymouth on 8:19pm Mon 27 Aug 07
[quote][bold]Axel.R,Ated[/bold] wrote:
These comments would be so much nicer written in Latin. I see the antis have got hot under the collar, and are stamping their feet. Probably mostly women!! Vituperative is the right word to describe these extensive outpourings, dear girls. Shows that you are not listening to those who know the score. THIS ROAD IS going to be built.[/quote] LOL
3 lions is woth jack Sh1te
Ashamed to be a uk Born and bread Citizen
I/We have no say BUT still have to PAY our/there ways.
MOVE um out!!!
JOB DONE!!!
Axel.R,Ated wrote:
These comments would be so much nicer written in Latin. I see the antis have got hot under the collar, and are stamping their feet. Probably mostly women!! Vituperative is the right word to describe these extensive outpourings, dear girls. Shows that you are not listening to those who know the score. THIS ROAD IS going to be built.
LOL
3 lions is woth jack Sh1te
Ashamed to be a uk Born and bread Citizen
I/We have no say BUT still have to PAY our/there ways.
MOVE um out!!!
JOB DONE!!!
Posted by: Scallywag, Portland on 8:38pm Mon 27 Aug 07
[quote][bold]commonsense[/bold] wrote:
Wow - what a spiteful childish bunch of ignoramus's most of you are! Firstly, ALL of the Bypass group are based in Weymouth or Dorchester - the fact that they have plenty of support from further afield than that just shows that intelligent people can be found all over the world. And anyway, ANYONE is entitled to have an opinion about this - it is NOT just a local issue - "Think global, act local" - in other words, grow up and start taking some responsibility for your actions and understand the impact they have. Secondly, it is clear that almost all of the pro-roaders (perhaps "road ragers" is a more apt term) haven't even bothered to avail themselves of the arguments - the information is all there for anyone to read - so before you start spewing out personal spiteful bile why don't you do your brain the courtesy of actually reading up on the facts? Thirdly, almost the only reason that the road between Weymouth and Dorchester sometimes gets a bit clogged up (and for goodness sake you pro-road lot PLEASE stop insulting everyone's intelligence by exaggerating the delays - even on a bad day it only takes 10-15 minutes to drive from Dorchester to Weymouth - I've done it a thousand times at rush hour) is all those lazy commuters who DRIVE between Dorchester and Weymouth on a daily basis when more than 90% don't even NEED their cars during the day so what is the point? [bold]You are the architect of your own problems! [/bold] Weymouth and Dorchester are supplied with perfectly good train stations - two each if I'm not mistaken - so many of those commuters could get the train. You could also get the bus, or cycle or take a motorbike - or share a car with work colleagues - there are plenty of options for behaving more responsibly. The pro-roaders come across as ignorant, arrogant, selfish, parochial and unbelievably rude - just the sort of people who insist on driving a car for completely unnecessary journeys thus clogging up the roads when much better alternatives exist. Fourthly, a bypass will NOT SOLVE ANYTHING - how many times do you need to be told? Surely you can't be that stupid? It will just be a parallel road carving up the countryside - it won't actually BYPASS anything - it'll just clog up Weymouth and Dorchester with even more traffic being dumped more quickly into each town at either end! How can anyone not understand that? Almost all of the congestion problems (such as they are) are caused by the Littlemoor lights - replace them with a roundabout as has been proposed many, many times and the traffic will run much more smoothly. Maybe the reason Dorset County Council is behaving like such an unimaginative dinosaur and doesn't feel the need to come up with intelligent, simple, proven solutions is because it knows that most of its electorate are also unimaginative dinosaurs who actually believe they are being governed democratically and who honestly believe that this road is going to bring any kind of benefit - the same kind of people who in centuries gone by would have sworn on their lives that the world was flat. Sad, sad, sad. Let me put a challenge to all you pro-roaders: why don't you clear your mind of all your pre-conceived prejudices - imagine that you have no opinion one way or the other - then start again reading up on the arguments - actually [bold]read[/bold] all the arguments against on the bypass website instead of just imagining that you already know them - then try for a week or so commuting between Weymouth and Dorchester by another means other than one person one car and while you're at it - look at the beautiful countryside around you. Then imagine that you had to do two or three hours' commute evey day in and out or around London on the tube, the bus, whatever (which is what most Londoners have to do) and then thank your lucky stars, stop moaning about a 10 or 15 minute car journey, start appreciating what you do have around you and think about what you are going to be leaving for your children and stop just concentrating on your own personal comfort zone. I find it really, really, depressing that the people who lobby the hardest for the road and the ones who are the most vitriolic and blinkered in their attacks are precisely those who are causing the most damage to our beautiful Dorset countryside. If you really care so little about our lovely county then why don't you go and live somewhere more urban and take your spiteful hatred there? Then, maybe you might start to realise how lucky you were. [/quote] Common sence indeed. Thank you for your comment.
commonsense wrote:
Wow - what a spiteful childish bunch of ignoramus's most of you are! Firstly, ALL of the Bypass group are based in Weymouth or Dorchester - the fact that they have plenty of support from further afield than that just shows that intelligent people can be found all over the world. And anyway, ANYONE is entitled to have an opinion about this - it is NOT just a local issue - "Think global, act local" - in other words, grow up and start taking some responsibility for your actions and understand the impact they have. Secondly, it is clear that almost all of the pro-roaders (perhaps "road ragers" is a more apt term) haven't even bothered to avail themselves of the arguments - the information is all there for anyone to read - so before you start spewing out personal spiteful bile why don't you do your brain the courtesy of actually reading up on the facts? Thirdly, almost the only reason that the road between Weymouth and Dorchester sometimes gets a bit clogged up (and for goodness sake you pro-road lot PLEASE stop insulting everyone's intelligence by exaggerating the delays - even on a bad day it only takes 10-15 minutes to drive from Dorchester to Weymouth - I've done it a thousand times at rush hour) is all those lazy commuters who DRIVE between Dorchester and Weymouth on a daily basis when more than 90% don't even NEED their cars during the day so what is the point? You are the architect of your own problems! Weymouth and Dorchester are supplied with perfectly good train stations - two each if I'm not mistaken - so many of those commuters could get the train. You could also get the bus, or cycle or take a motorbike - or share a car with work colleagues - there are plenty of options for behaving more responsibly. The pro-roaders come across as ignorant, arrogant, selfish, parochial and unbelievably rude - just the sort of people who insist on driving a car for completely unnecessary journeys thus clogging up the roads when much better alternatives exist. Fourthly, a bypass will NOT SOLVE ANYTHING - how many times do you need to be told? Surely you can't be that stupid? It will just be a parallel road carving up the countryside - it won't actually BYPASS anything - it'll just clog up Weymouth and Dorchester with even more traffic being dumped more quickly into each town at either end! How can anyone not understand that? Almost all of the congestion problems (such as they are) are caused by the Littlemoor lights - replace them with a roundabout as has been proposed many, many times and the traffic will run much more smoothly. Maybe the reason Dorset County Council is behaving like such an unimaginative dinosaur and doesn't feel the need to come up with intelligent, simple, proven solutions is because it knows that most of its electorate are also unimaginative dinosaurs who actually believe they are being governed democratically and who honestly believe that this road is going to bring any kind of benefit - the same kind of people who in centuries gone by would have sworn on their lives that the world was flat. Sad, sad, sad. Let me put a challenge to all you pro-roaders: why don't you clear your mind of all your pre-conceived prejudices - imagine that you have no opinion one way or the other - then start again reading up on the arguments - actually read all the arguments against on the bypass website instead of just imagining that you already know them - then try for a week or so commuting between Weymouth and Dorchester by another means other than one person one car and while you're at it - look at the beautiful countryside around you. Then imagine that you had to do two or three hours' commute evey day in and out or around London on the tube, the bus, whatever (which is what most Londoners have to do) and then thank your lucky stars, stop moaning about a 10 or 15 minute car journey, start appreciating what you do have around you and think about what you are going to be leaving for your children and stop just concentrating on your own personal comfort zone. I find it really, really, depressing that the people who lobby the hardest for the road and the ones who are the most vitriolic and blinkered in their attacks are precisely those who are causing the most damage to our beautiful Dorset countryside. If you really care so little about our lovely county then why don't you go and live somewhere more urban and take your spiteful hatred there? Then, maybe you might start to realise how lucky you were.
Common sence indeed. Thank you for your comment.
Posted by: Jeremy, Weymouth on 9:01pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Looking at the comments I would say roughly 95% in favour of the road - that ties up quite nicely with the amount of public support for the road I would say.
Build the road - give the area a chance in the real world, where real people live and live real lives!
Looking at the comments I would say roughly 95% in favour of the road - that ties up quite nicely with the amount of public support for the road I would say.
Build the road - give the area a chance in the real world, where real people live and live real lives!
Posted by: why?, Weymouth on 9:52pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Am I being too simplistic but why can't they just widen the existing road into four lanes - or is that too obvious and simple a solution?
Am I being too simplistic but why can't they just widen the existing road into four lanes - or is that too obvious and simple a solution?
Posted by: localbusinessman, Weymouth on 10:14pm Mon 27 Aug 07
[quote][bold]Jeremy[/bold] wrote:
Looking at the comments I would say roughly 95% in favour of the road - that ties up quite nicely with the amount of public support for the road I would say. Build the road - give the area a chance in the real world, where real people live and live real lives! [/quote] So where was the 95% of the public when the council asked the public to comment upon the planning application, and when Jim Knight urged / wrote to / local residents asking them to register their support for the project?
Well done to Mr Gillan. I imagine that if he were ever to have any doubts about the intellectual arguments, then they would be dispelled by the barrage of mindless and abuse and cat-calls from the pro-road lobby on this site.
I have followed the arguments for and against the road for some time (but only recently decided to join in). Though I don't necessarily agree with all of their comments, I have generally been impressed by the commonsense arguments made by those who oppose its construction.
On the other hand, I have yet to see an argument from the other side that is anything more than a [italic]slogan, anecdote, or wishful thinking.[/italic] That observation is supported by the level of debate from Jeremy's 95% on this thread. I imagine that the lack of substance to their arguments is why they are so fearful of any independent inquiry.
As a taxpayer, I want my contributions to be used on projects that are properly and independently assessed as being worthwhile to the local economy and fulfilling a social need.
I certainly have no desire to see my contributions frittered away on am unnecessary road to nowhere.
I can recall a councillor making a comment along the lines of 'if the government is giving out money, then we should have some', and I see Knight's involvement as little more than using taxpayers money to buy himself a seat after the next election.
Jeremy wrote:
Looking at the comments I would say roughly 95% in favour of the road - that ties up quite nicely with the amount of public support for the road I would say. Build the road - give the area a chance in the real world, where real people live and live real lives!
So where was the 95% of the public when the council asked the public to comment upon the planning application, and when Jim Knight urged / wrote to / local residents asking them to register their support for the project?
Well done to Mr Gillan. I imagine that if he were ever to have any doubts about the intellectual arguments, then they would be dispelled by the barrage of mindless and abuse and cat-calls from the pro-road lobby on this site.
I have followed the arguments for and against the road for some time (but only recently decided to join in). Though I don't necessarily agree with all of their comments, I have generally been impressed by the commonsense arguments made by those who oppose its construction.
On the other hand, I have yet to see an argument from the other side that is anything more than a
slogan, anecdote, or wishful thinking. That observation is supported by the level of debate from Jeremy's 95% on this thread. I imagine that the lack of substance to their arguments is why they are so fearful of any independent inquiry.
As a taxpayer, I want my contributions to be used on projects that are properly and independently assessed as being worthwhile to the local economy and fulfilling a social need.
I certainly have no desire to see my contributions frittered away on am unnecessary road to nowhere.
I can recall a councillor making a comment along the lines of 'if the government is giving out money, then we should have some', and I see Knight's involvement as little more than using taxpayers money to buy himself a seat after the next election.
Posted by: Lord Lucan, Puddletown Gereatric Club on 10:22pm Mon 27 Aug 07
Posted by: why?, Weymouth on Today
Am I being too simplistic but why can't they just widen the existing road into four lanes - or is that too obvious and simple a solution?
That would please all the current residents both sides of the Dorchester Road from Upwey to Pier Bandstand !
They could all be re-housed in Lyme Regis and listen to Ian Gillan doing birdie impressions !!
KEEP THESE PEARLS OF WISDOM COMING, IT'S FOLK LIKE YOU THAT KEEP ME GOING !!!
Posted by: why?, Weymouth on Today
Am I being too simplistic but why can't they just widen the existing road into four lanes - or is that too obvious and simple a solution?
That would please all the current residents both sides of the Dorchester Road from Upwey to Pier Bandstand !
They could all be re-housed in Lyme Regis and listen to Ian Gillan doing birdie impressions !!
KEEP THESE PEARLS OF WISDOM COMING, IT'S FOLK LIKE YOU THAT KEEP ME GOING !!!
Posted by: localbusinessman, Weymouth on 10:22pm Mon 27 Aug 07
[quote][bold]why?[/bold] wrote:
Am I being too simplistic but why can't they just widen the existing road into four lanes - or is that too obvious and simple a solution?[/quote] There is no need.
There are two blockages: Littlemoor lights, and Wey Valley School in term-time.
Sorting those would cost far less financially and environmentally, but DCC Project Managers and councillors believe there is more kudos if they can 'oversee' the construction of a new road.
(For God's sake, don't give them any responsibility!)
why? wrote:
Am I being too simplistic but why can't they just widen the existing road into four lanes - or is that too obvious and simple a solution?
There is no need.
There are two blockages: Littlemoor lights, and Wey Valley School in term-time.
Sorting those would cost far less financially and environmentally, but DCC Project Managers and councillors believe there is more kudos if they can 'oversee' the construction of a new road.
(For God's sake, don't give them any responsibility!)
Posted by: Dave, Westbury. Wilts, on 10:28pm Mon 27 Aug 07
I do not live in the area so I would not presume to give an opinion one way or another on the relief road except to say this I spent my youth and teens in Dorchester in the 50s 60s and early 70s. In those days we used to avoid Weymouth in August due to traffic and parking problems. Whats changed in 30 odd years?
I do not live in the area so I would not presume to give an opinion one way or another on the relief road except to say this I spent my youth and teens in Dorchester in the 50s 60s and early 70s. In those days we used to avoid Weymouth in August due to traffic and parking problems. Whats changed in 30 odd years?
Posted by: ex-Wykie, now in the, Wilds of Wiltsire on 10:44pm Mon 27 Aug 07
[quote][bold]Dave[/bold] wrote:
I do not live in the area so I would not presume to give an opinion one way or another on the relief road except to say this I spent my youth and teens in Dorchester in the 50s 60s and early 70s. In those days we used to avoid Weymouth in August due to traffic and parking problems. Whats changed in 30 odd years?[/quote] Dave, I too spent my youth in Weymouth during those years.
I'll tell you what's changed in 30 odd years....you now need to avoid the town from April to October !
Dave wrote:
I do not live in the area so I would not presume to give an opinion one way or another on the relief road except to say this I spent my youth and teens in Dorchester in the 50s 60s and early 70s. In those days we used to avoid Weymouth in August due to traffic and parking problems. Whats changed in 30 odd years?
Dave, I too spent my youth in Weymouth during those years.
I'll tell you what's changed in 30 odd years....you now need to avoid the town from April to October !
Posted by: piddlerpete, dorset on 11:07pm Mon 27 Aug 07
instead of dcc wasting £84 million on a road to nowhere how about a rebate on our council tax that would go down better with a lot more people
instead of dcc wasting £84 million on a road to nowhere how about a rebate on our council tax that would go down better with a lot more people
Posted by: stoned, cloud 9 on 11:08pm Mon 27 Aug 07
When can we start on the Portland bypass ?
When can we start on the Portland bypass ?
Posted by: guy, dorchester on 11:08pm Mon 27 Aug 07
on the green issue mr gillam has created more carbon footprint, air travel,lorry to gig travel,helicopter arrival at gig travel, generators for power at gigs. he properly driver to London regularly......oh in his fuel saving nissan micra....i don't think so.
the verge of the road is the most untouched land around so all sorts of wild life can grow there. one of the most fought over bits of land was twyford down,winchester. does he take the old road around the down in suport of the protesters every time he goes to london?........dont think so.
i do drive a nissan mira type car(petrol 56 to gallon at 56 mph).
the other day i drove from surrey to dorset at a solid 56 to save fuel and polution, in the slow lane all the way because i never got slowed down or had to overtake anyone. sad that all the greenies are busy washing bottles and sorting rubbish but cant drive responsibly.........
..oh look kids ........look who is over takeing us it is mr gillan in his 4 ltr range rover doing [bold]90!!!![/bold]
on the green issue mr gillam has created more carbon footprint, air travel,lorry to gig travel,helicopter arrival at gig travel, generators for power at gigs. he properly driver to London regularly......oh in his fuel saving nissan micra....i don't think so.
the verge of the road is the most untouched land around so all sorts of wild life can grow there. one of the most fought over bits of land was twyford down,winchester. does he take the old road around the down in suport of the protesters every time he goes to london?........dont think so.
i do drive a nissan mira type car(petrol 56 to gallon at 56 mph).
the other day i drove from surrey to dorset at a solid 56 to save fuel and polution, in the slow lane all the way because i never got slowed down or had to overtake anyone. sad that all the greenies are busy washing bottles and sorting rubbish but cant drive responsibly.........
..oh look kids ........look who is over takeing us it is mr gillan in his 4 ltr range rover doing
90!!!! Posted by: Stirling Moses, Brands Hatch on 11:15pm Mon 27 Aug 07
[quote][bold]piddlerpete[/bold] wrote:
instead of dcc wasting £84 million on a road to nowhere how about a rebate on our council tax that would go down better with a lot more people[/quote] I'll vote for that ! With all that money, we can all buy ourselves steam rollers and travel on top of the cars clogging Dorchester Rd.
piddlerpete wrote:
instead of dcc wasting £84 million on a road to nowhere how about a rebate on our council tax that would go down better with a lot more people
I'll vote for that ! With all that money, we can all buy ourselves steam rollers and travel on top of the cars clogging Dorchester Rd.
Posted by: Jean on 12:01am Tue 28 Aug 07
What are you pro-roaders getting so hot under the collar about? It's obvious that you're going to get your precious road, whether some of us, with the same rights as you to an opinion, like it or not, so stop wetting yourselves and enjoy the fact that soon you're going to have your own private Dorchester Road.
Well done you.
What are you pro-roaders getting so hot under the collar about? It's obvious that you're going to get your precious road, whether some of us, with the same rights as you to an opinion, like it or not, so stop wetting yourselves and enjoy the fact that soon you're going to have your own private Dorchester Road.
Well done you.
Posted by: Gladys, OnTheRightSide on 12:27am Tue 28 Aug 07
As the only Weymouth residents who want this new road all live along Dorchester Road, why not use Compulsory Purchase Orders to obtain front gardens and if need be, entire properties, and make the Dorchester Road a four lane highway.
As the only Weymouth residents who want this new road all live along Dorchester Road, why not use Compulsory Purchase Orders to obtain front gardens and if need be, entire properties, and make the Dorchester Road a four lane highway.
Posted by: Localyokle, weymouth on 12:31am Tue 28 Aug 07
From what I have gathered the Yanks complained about the road when they were going to war on D-Day and it is still going on[bold]!![/bold]
When oh when will the bickering and back- bitting stop and the building start.
From what I have gathered the Yanks complained about the road when they were going to war on D-Day and it is still going on
!!
When oh when will the bickering and back- bitting stop and the building start.
Posted by: Adam Tarmac, M25 on 7:51am Tue 28 Aug 07
[quote][bold]Gladys[/bold] wrote:
As the only Weymouth residents who want this new road all live along Dorchester Road, why not use Compulsory Purchase Orders to obtain front gardens and if need be, entire properties, and make the Dorchester Road a four lane highway.[/quote] Yes, but don't stop at St Johns church...continue this 4 lane higway, on stilts, out to Portland. Obviously, do NOT have any exit between Upwey and Portland.
That should please Weymouth residents!
Gladys wrote:
As the only Weymouth residents who want this new road all live along Dorchester Road, why not use Compulsory Purchase Orders to obtain front gardens and if need be, entire properties, and make the Dorchester Road a four lane highway.
Yes, but don't stop at St Johns church...continue this 4 lane higway, on stilts, out to Portland. Obviously, do NOT have any exit between Upwey and Portland.
That should please Weymouth residents!
Posted by: Eric, Weymouth on 7:53am Tue 28 Aug 07
I suppose everyone knows and is happy about the fact that this road is nothing to do with caring about Weymouth or the residents of Dorchester Road etc - its all a master plan to then build a link along the Fleet (and thereby ruining that too) to build a huge port at Portland - probably containers, maybe a big oil depot etc etc. Big money is behind this - make no mistake.
I suppose everyone knows and is happy about the fact that this road is nothing to do with caring about Weymouth or the residents of Dorchester Road etc - its all a master plan to then build a link along the Fleet (and thereby ruining that too) to build a huge port at Portland - probably containers, maybe a big oil depot etc etc. Big money is behind this - make no mistake.
Posted by: Mike, Portland on 8:08am Tue 28 Aug 07
[quote][bold]Eric[/bold] wrote:
I suppose everyone knows and is happy about the fact that this road is nothing to do with caring about Weymouth or the residents of Dorchester Road etc - its all a master plan to then build a link along the Fleet (and thereby ruining that too) to build a huge port at Portland - probably containers, maybe a big oil depot etc etc. Big money is behind this - make no mistake.[/quote] Nice idea Eric but i am afraid you are living in cloud cuckoo land, we are having enough trouble getting a little road to manor roundabout.As for your huge port there is no need for a huge port also we do not have enough water or land so you can forget that.
Eric wrote:
I suppose everyone knows and is happy about the fact that this road is nothing to do with caring about Weymouth or the residents of Dorchester Road etc - its all a master plan to then build a link along the Fleet (and thereby ruining that too) to build a huge port at Portland - probably containers, maybe a big oil depot etc etc. Big money is behind this - make no mistake.
Nice idea Eric but i am afraid you are living in cloud cuckoo land, we are having enough trouble getting a little road to manor roundabout.As for your huge port there is no need for a huge port also we do not have enough water or land so you can forget that.
Posted by: Eric, Weymouth on 8:22am Tue 28 Aug 07
We'll see Mike. It certainly won't help gridlocked Weymouth, that's for sure!
We'll see Mike. It certainly won't help gridlocked Weymouth, that's for sure!
Posted by: Tru Belle on 9:03am Tue 28 Aug 07
Long and winding road.
How long now?
Opinions matter.
Mine matters most.
Get the road built.
Long and winding road.
How long now?
Opinions matter.
Mine matters most.
Get the road built.
Posted by: Adi Nuff on 9:24am Tue 28 Aug 07
Local business man, local business man, local business man,
How many are there of you then? Come out of the woodwork and get the jobs flowing, I thought thought you had been promoting Wmth as dead end street to stop the road going ahead. So there is hope yet then? Or are you afraid of competition when it arrives.
Relief road now!!
Local business man, local business man, local business man,
How many are there of you then? Come out of the woodwork and get the jobs flowing, I thought thought you had been promoting Wmth as dead end street to stop the road going ahead. So there is hope yet then? Or are you afraid of competition when it arrives.
Relief road now!!
Posted by: localbusinesman, Weymouth on 9:37am Tue 28 Aug 07
[quote][bold]Mike[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Eric[/bold] wrote: I suppose everyone knows and is happy about the fact that this road is nothing to do with caring about Weymouth or the residents of Dorchester Road etc - its all a master plan to then build a link along the Fleet (and thereby ruining that too) to build a huge port at Portland - probably containers, maybe a big oil depot etc etc. Big money is behind this - make no mistake.[/quote] Nice idea Eric but i am afraid you are living in cloud cuckoo land, we are having enough trouble getting a little road to manor roundabout.As for your huge port there is no need for a huge port also we do not have enough water or land so you can forget that.[/quote] Mike,
You obviously don't remember that the original plan was to extend the road to Chickerell, run along the Fleet, and then on to Portland.
(As I recall, one of the main supporters of this route was the management of Portland Port, whose hair-brained schemes (invariably reliant upon taxpayer's money) have included using the port as an entry point for vehicle imports. On the face of it -looking at the huge land areas used at Bristol and Southampton for storing vehicles – it is a totally ridiculous proposition. However, although the existing land area is scarce, locals will be aware of the large area of shallow water within Portland Harbour that could quite easily be reclaimed, and new jetties constructed. And given that Portland Port own the lot, they could do so quite easily.)
Dorset County Council realised that - particularly because of the effect upon the Fleet - the extent of opposition to such a road scheme would make it a non-starter. The scheme was then split into segments, and some of those who would not be adversely affected by the northern section became active – if gullible – supporters.
So there is little doubt that the plan is to build it 'by stealth' over the coming years - and we have already heard councillors talking about a 'Boot-hill bypass'.
The 'Chickerell link' is already in place.
Funding of the Broadwey bypass has been a hot topic. I wonder how many of Dorset's residents are aware that Government funding (if it arrives) will not cover the entire cost of the project? The balance will come from Dorset community charge payers. Of course, nobody likes their community charge to increase, but it's that or further cuts in support services (increasing numbers of elderly beware), libraries, etc. That is just one reason why ‘non-locals’ (outside of Weymouth **** Royston Vasey) are entitled to have their say.
As I've mentioned before, councillors (aided and abetted by Knight in this instance) tend to react to those who shout loudest, rather than targeting scarce resources wisely, and council officers (like Piles) who stand to gain professionally from managing large capital projects, are never going to let alternatives get in the way.
Mike wrote:
Eric wrote: I suppose everyone knows and is happy about the fact that this road is nothing to do with caring about Weymouth or the residents of Dorchester Road etc - its all a master plan to then build a link along the Fleet (and thereby ruining that too) to build a huge port at Portland - probably containers, maybe a big oil depot etc etc. Big money is behind this - make no mistake.
Nice idea Eric but i am afraid you are living in cloud cuckoo land, we are having enough trouble getting a little road to manor roundabout.As for your huge port there is no need for a huge port also we do not have enough water or land so you can forget that.
Mike,
You obviously don't remember that the original plan was to extend the road to Chickerell, run along the Fleet, and then on to Portland.
(As I recall, one of the main supporters of this route was the management of Portland Port, whose hair-brained schemes (invariably reliant upon taxpayer's money) have included using the port as an entry point for vehicle imports. On the face of it -looking at the huge land areas used at Bristol and Southampton for storing vehicles – it is a totally ridiculous proposition. However, although the existing land area is scarce, locals will be aware of the large area of shallow water within Portland Harbour that could quite easily be reclaimed, and new jetties constructed. And given that Portland Port own the lot, they could do so quite easily.)
Dorset County Council realised that - particularly because of the effect upon the Fleet - the extent of opposition to such a road scheme would make it a non-starter. The scheme was then split into segments, and some of those who would not be adversely affected by the northern section became active – if gullible – supporters.
So there is little doubt that the plan is to build it 'by stealth' over the coming years - and we have already heard councillors talking about a 'Boot-hill bypass'.
The 'Chickerell link' is already in place.
Funding of the Broadwey bypass has been a hot topic. I wonder how many of Dorset's residents are aware that Government funding (if it arrives) will not cover the entire cost of the project? The balance will come from Dorset community charge payers. Of course, nobody likes their community charge to increase, but it's that or further cuts in support services (increasing numbers of elderly beware), libraries, etc. That is just one reason why ‘non-locals’ (outside of Weymouth **** Royston Vasey) are entitled to have their say.
As I've mentioned before, councillors (aided and abetted by Knight in this instance) tend to react to those who shout loudest, rather than targeting scarce resources wisely, and council officers (like Piles) who stand to gain professionally from managing large capital projects, are never going to let alternatives get in the way.
Posted by: rock 'n' road on 10:04am Tue 28 Aug 07
I see Ian gillan is still pulling in the crowds...
I see Ian gillan is still pulling in the crowds...
Posted by: Gordons Browns replacement on 10:34am Tue 28 Aug 07
Worry yea not,things will change for the better with me!!!
It won't just be roads we are talking about here.
Worry yea not,things will change for the better with me!!!
It won't just be roads we are talking about here.
Posted by: localbusinessman, Weymouth on 10:39am Tue 28 Aug 07
[quote][bold]Adi Nuff[/bold] wrote:
Local business man, local business man, local business man, How many are there of you then? Come out of the woodwork and get the jobs flowing, I thought thought you had been promoting Wmth as dead end street to stop the road going ahead. So there is hope yet then? Or are you afraid of competition when it arrives. Relief road now!![/quote] I certainly don't see Weymouth as a dead end street, provided that the street is correctly tailored to meet changing circumstances.
And I have no fear of competition because in a better atmosphere than that displayed by empty shops and 99p stores, traders and locals will all benefit).
What I am suggesting is that the limited monies available for developments across the UK and its regions should be targeted wisely, and that those who suggest that a new road around Broadwey will encourage new industry into Weymouth are being foolish or misled.
As I said on a previous thread, (http://www.dorsetec
ho.co.uk/news/local/
display.var.1643698.
0.is_dorset_facing_a
_skills_time_bomb.ph
p#comments) Weymouth’s geographical location makes it little different from any other seaside resort, and the Naval Base was only reason there was any real industry in the first place.
This area - with its Jurassic coastline and fabulous countryside has a huge potential. Properly coupled with exploiting / supporting increasing public awareness of environmental issues, Weymouth could attract a different type of tourist; wealthier, and likely to spend more money locally on quality products. That would have a spin-off for the rest of us, including better (and fewer empty) shops and produce, fewer holiday drunks and rowdies, and a better overall transport system.
Now we must remember that the root cause of the current road proposal is the long-standing desire of the residents and Broadwey to have traffic removed from their street; and the vocal Harry Burden worked hard to achieve that by latching onto the panic that set in when the MoD announced its withdrawal.
The new argument was that a new road was as ‘economic necessity’ (despite Weymouth having an extraordinarily low rate of unemployment). Unfortunately, instead of understanding and accepting realities, and responding with a bit of foresight that incorporates changing circumstances and opinions, our representatives seem to believe that the tried and (largely failed) solutions of their youth remain applicable to every situation. That observation is supported by the fact that whenever the council’s argument as been seen to be flawed, they have stuck by their plan but modified their argument.
Adi Nuff wrote:
Local business man, local business man, local business man, How many are there of you then? Come out of the woodwork and get the jobs flowing, I thought thought you had been promoting Wmth as dead end street to stop the road going ahead. So there is hope yet then? Or are you afraid of competition when it arrives. Relief road now!!
I certainly don't see Weymouth as a dead end street, provided that the street is correctly tailored to meet changing circumstances.
And I have no fear of competition because in a better atmosphere than that displayed by empty shops and 99p stores, traders and locals will all benefit).
What I am suggesting is that the limited monies available for developments across the UK and its regions should be targeted wisely, and that those who suggest that a new road around Broadwey will encourage new industry into Weymouth are being foolish or misled.
As I said on a previous thread, (http://www.dorsetec
ho.co.uk/news/local/
display.var.1643698.
0.is_dorset_facing_a
_skills_time_bomb.ph
p#comments) Weymouth’s geographical location makes it little different from any other seaside resort, and the Naval Base was only reason there was any real industry in the first place.
This area - with its Jurassic coastline and fabulous countryside has a huge potential. Properly coupled with exploiting / supporting increasing public awareness of environmental issues, Weymouth could attract a different type of tourist; wealthier, and likely to spend more money locally on quality products. That would have a spin-off for the rest of us, including better (and fewer empty) shops and produce, fewer holiday drunks and rowdies, and a better overall transport system.
Now we must remember that the root cause of the current road proposal is the long-standing desire of the residents and Broadwey to have traffic removed from their street; and the vocal Harry Burden worked hard to achieve that by latching onto the panic that set in when the MoD announced its withdrawal.
The new argument was that a new road was as ‘economic necessity’ (despite Weymouth having an extraordinarily low rate of unemployment). Unfortunately, instead of understanding and accepting realities, and responding with a bit of foresight that incorporates changing circumstances and opinions, our representatives seem to believe that the tried and (largely failed) solutions of their youth remain applicable to every situation. That observation is supported by the fact that whenever the council’s argument as been seen to be flawed, they have stuck by their plan but modified their argument.
Posted by: Albo, Wyke Regis on 10:43am Tue 28 Aug 07
As a local business myself, I am 100% certain that localbusinessman is talking out of his chuff.
That is all.
As a local business myself, I am 100% certain that localbusinessman is talking out of his chuff.
That is all.
Posted by: John, Weymouth on 11:09am Tue 28 Aug 07
Albo,
Is your statement based upon your suppport for the Broadwey Bypass, or because as a resident of Wyke you do not want to accept
that the same thing could happen in Wyke?
Or perhaps a combination of the two?
Albo,
Is your statement based upon your suppport for the Broadwey Bypass, or because as a resident of Wyke you do not want to accept
that the same thing could happen in Wyke?
Or perhaps a combination of the two?
