Fury over pyramid plans
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| HIGH HOPES: An artist's impression of the Solar Pyramid, which was heavily criticised |
PROTESTERS against a controversial Solar Pyramid proposed for Poole were celebrating on Thursday night after winning the first stage of their fight.
Councillors rejected Poole cabinet's decision to approve spending up to £40,000 on a feasibility study and said the matter should be sent back to them with the strong recommendation that it be referred to full council.
Cllr Phil Eades, who had "called in" cabinet's decision to be scrutinised by the Call-In Scrutiny Committee, hit out at the mystery surrounding the proposed site, telling the meeting: "I find this a truly bizarre decision taken by cabinet. How can they make a decision to spend £40,000 of public money when we don't know where it's going to go?
"The residents of Poole don't believe that's true. People don't believe it's non-site specific. They (the Solar Pyramid Team) came to this council with a proposal to build this on Baiter and everyone knows it's true."
Cllr Eades also revealed that by using the Freedom of Information Act, he discovered at 4.31pm on Thursday that the Town Centre Management Board spent almost £2,000 of taxpayers' money wining and dining the Solar Pyramid Team at Compton Acres.
Under heavy questioning by committee members, Council Leader Cllr Brian Leverett said: "The fact is at this stage it is not site specific. It couldn't be site specific. It's not even scheme specific.
"Cabinet's proposal is about looking for a tourist attraction. It's a scoping study and no more."
Only Baiter Park residents were invited to attend a public meeting at the Lighthouse because there was "a great deal of concern and worry" from local people that the pyramid was to be sited on Baiter Park (Harbourside Park), he added.
| How can they make a decision to spend £40,000 of public money when we dont know where its going to go? | | Cllr Phil Eades |
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Chairman Cllr Judy Butt said that she had attended the meeting where the Solar Pyramid Team gave a presentation on the project adding: "I must admit to the untrained eye the picture that was shown certainly gave me the perception it was Baiter."
Cllr David Gillard also questioned whether the existing infrastructure could stand the extra people attracted into Poole and how much would need to be spent.
Questions were also asked by the committee as to why it had not gone before the Local Economy Overview Group or submitted as a planning application.
Addressing the committee, former headmaster Michael Randall said: "How many people would turn up to it on a day like today? It becomes a white elephant for part of the year. Why are we spending ratepayers' money on something to promote a commercial enterprise? It will cast an immense shadow over my property."
Another resident said: "What I can't understand is why nobody has got the guts to tell us where it's going to be sited. We are not fools on Baiter. It's a waste of taxpayers' money."
Other residents questioned where activities that currently use Baiter Park would go, such as dog walkers, kite flying and Poole Afloat.
Summing up, chairman Cllr Butt said she was "extremely disappointed" in the way the matter has been handled by cabinet.
The issue comes before cabinet again on January 29.
6:42am Friday 4th January 2008
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CommentPosted by: godzilla, hamworthy on 7:43am Fri 4 Jan 08
If Poole council is looking for a tourist attraction they should try updating the facilities we already have. The toilets in town are a disgrace and you have to pay, walk along the Quay and see the derelict buildings that look unsightly,build a new bridge so visitors are not caught in traffic chaos in the summer. Oh I forgot that might be practical stuff how silly of me we should just have a useless ornament to attract visitors
If Poole council is looking for a tourist attraction they should try updating the facilities we already have. The toilets in town are a disgrace and you have to pay, walk along the Quay and see the derelict buildings that look unsightly,build a new bridge so visitors are not caught in traffic chaos in the summer. Oh I forgot that might be practical stuff how silly of me we should just have a useless ornament to attract visitors
Posted by: Slightly right of Attilla The, poole on 8:38am Fri 4 Jan 08
I was there last night and to say I was disgusted with the efforts of Messrs Leverett and Bright is a monumental understement. Conversely the efforts of untrained members of the public together with Councillors of BOTH parties gave the lie to all the flim-flam, flummery and obvious underhand dealings that have been taking place since LAST JULY.
A call from the floor at the end of the meeting with 100% support for total unacceptability of the scheme ANYWHERE in the Borough was followed by a call for Cllr Leverett's resignation. Perhaps he will now FINALLY get the message!
I was there last night and to say I was disgusted with the efforts of Messrs Leverett and Bright is a monumental understement. Conversely the efforts of untrained members of the public together with Councillors of BOTH parties gave the lie to all the flim-flam, flummery and obvious underhand dealings that have been taking place since LAST JULY.
A call from the floor at the end of the meeting with 100% support for total unacceptability of the scheme ANYWHERE in the Borough was followed by a call for Cllr Leverett's resignation. Perhaps he will now FINALLY get the message!
Posted by: accountability, Ex Local on 8:53am Fri 4 Jan 08
[bold]Well done those councillors who threw it out! Good that there is now one or two bruised egos about.
A watching brief is necessary but people power will rule OK![/bold]
Well done those councillors who threw it out! Good that there is now one or two bruised egos about.
A watching brief is necessary but people power will rule OK! Posted by: Phil, Poole on 9:26am Fri 4 Jan 08
[quote]the Town Centre Management Board spent almost £2,000 of taxpayers' money wining and dining the Solar Pyramid Team at Compton Acres[/quote]
Surely a commercial enterprise trying to sell a project to the council should foot the bill for such entertaining?
the Town Centre Management Board spent almost £2,000 of taxpayers' money wining and dining the Solar Pyramid Team at Compton Acres
Surely a commercial enterprise trying to sell a project to the council should foot the bill for such entertaining?
Posted by: John, Poole on 9:33am Fri 4 Jan 08
Just watch the deft (that's deft, not daft) way in which Cllr Leverett and his Strategic Director Jim Bright extricate themselves from this farce.The mystery and speed surrounding their movement to date on the Solar Pyramid Project has prompted a relevant poem,viz:
There was a smart man named Bright
Who could travel much faster than light
He started one day
In the relative way
And came back on the previous night
Mesphinx, this could explain why the Tortoise is ahead of the Hare in this hair-brained scheme!
Just a thought, has Cllr Leverett considered a Guillotine as a suitable tourist attraction?!
Just watch the deft (that's deft, not daft) way in which Cllr Leverett and his Strategic Director Jim Bright extricate themselves from this farce.The mystery and speed surrounding their movement to date on the Solar Pyramid Project has prompted a relevant poem,viz:
There was a smart man named Bright
Who could travel much faster than light
He started one day
In the relative way
And came back on the previous night
Mesphinx, this could explain why the Tortoise is ahead of the Hare in this hair-brained scheme!
Just a thought, has Cllr Leverett considered a Guillotine as a suitable tourist attraction?!
Posted by: ALL SEEING EYE, POOLE on 9:34am Fri 4 Jan 08
The counsellors should check how many [bold]FREEMASONS[/bold] are in the [bold]CABINET[/bold] and also part of the [bold]SOLAR PYRAMID TEAM[/bold] - Once again its jobs for the boys with the funny handshake and rolled up trouser leg sadly Poole Council is rotten to the core with these infiltrators.
The counsellors should check how many
FREEMASONS are in the
CABINET and also part of the
SOLAR PYRAMID TEAM - Once again its jobs for the boys with the funny handshake and rolled up trouser leg sadly Poole Council is rotten to the core with these infiltrators.
Posted by: John, Poole on 9:48am Fri 4 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Phil[/bold] wrote:
[quote]the Town Centre Management Board spent almost £2,000 of taxpayers' money wining and dining the Solar Pyramid Team at Compton Acres[/quote] Surely a commercial enterprise trying to sell a project to the council should foot the bill for such entertaining?[/quote] Not with this Council, who have only budgetted £40000 of Council taxpayers' money so far. Clearly they are seeking best value! What better use of taxpayers' money than a dinner where the selected representatives of the Council can eat wisely, but not too well, and talk well, but not too wisely?!
Phil wrote:
the Town Centre Management Board spent almost £2,000 of taxpayers' money wining and dining the Solar Pyramid Team at Compton Acres
Surely a commercial enterprise trying to sell a project to the council should foot the bill for such entertaining?
Not with this Council, who have only budgetted £40000 of Council taxpayers' money so far. Clearly they are seeking best value! What better use of taxpayers' money than a dinner where the selected representatives of the Council can eat wisely, but not too well, and talk well, but not too wisely?!
Posted by: spoon, Poole on 9:56am Fri 4 Jan 08
Leverett is long overdue being kicked out of this council.
VOTE HIM OUT!
Leverett is long overdue being kicked out of this council.
VOTE HIM OUT!
Posted by: Charlie on 10:22am Fri 4 Jan 08
It's extremely hard being a councillor. You eat at council taxpayers' expense, travel at council tax payers' expense, you get to treat council tax payers as complete idiots, you get to waste vast amounts of council taxpayers' money on schemes you think will get you a place in history, and even get paid for the prestige and honour of being a councillor - something that people once did for free because they WANTED to SERVE the community.
Oh, how I feel sorry for them.
And I second the question - why didn't the pyramid team pay for the very expensive meal at Compton Acres? Under the Freedom of Information Act, I'd like to know how many councillors and pyramid team people there were at this meal, and what they ate. We're entitled to an itemised breakdown of just what we paid for.
It's extremely hard being a councillor. You eat at council taxpayers' expense, travel at council tax payers' expense, you get to treat council tax payers as complete idiots, you get to waste vast amounts of council taxpayers' money on schemes you think will get you a place in history, and even get paid for the prestige and honour of being a councillor - something that people once did for free because they WANTED to SERVE the community.
Oh, how I feel sorry for them.
And I second the question - why didn't the pyramid team pay for the very expensive meal at Compton Acres? Under the Freedom of Information Act, I'd like to know how many councillors and pyramid team people there were at this meal, and what they ate. We're entitled to an itemised breakdown of just what we paid for.
Posted by: John, Poole on 11:04am Fri 4 Jan 08
Did Cllr Leverett con the Council taxpayer when he said £40000 was to be spent on a 'feasibility study'Perhaps, he really meant a [bold]'feastability study'[/bold] !
I trust Poole,s Cabinet Member for the Environment was at the dinner getting his gut full!
Did Cllr Leverett con the Council taxpayer when he said £40000 was to be spent on a 'feasibility study'Perhaps, he really meant a
'feastability study' !
I trust Poole,s Cabinet Member for the Environment was at the dinner getting his gut full!
Posted by: John, Poole on 11:08am Fri 4 Jan 08
[quote][bold]spoon[/bold] wrote:
Leverett is long overdue being kicked out of this council. VOTE HIM OUT![/quote] Perhaps, if Cllr Leverett can get his head round my alternative suggesion for a tourist attraction,i.e. a Guillotine, HEADS WILL ROLL!
spoon wrote:
Leverett is long overdue being kicked out of this council. VOTE HIM OUT!
Perhaps, if Cllr Leverett can get his head round my alternative suggesion for a tourist attraction,i.e. a Guillotine, HEADS WILL ROLL!
Posted by: Vikki27, Poole on 11:19am Fri 4 Jan 08
It is very good news indeed that the first stage has been rejeccted but I have the feeling this will be an issue that the council are about to let lie. I don't know if there is some form of commission to be drawn by the council for the monstrosity but certain members (and we know who they are) seem to be trying their damndest to push this through, regardless of public opinion.
Mike Randall's comments are completely true and it still mystifies me as to how some members of the council fail to see that the majority of the time, the pyramid will be nothing more than a blemish on the landscape. If, howeve, Cllr Leverett is wanting to get some notoriety for his name in history, he will most certainly be achieving that with his bull-headed actions, though perhaps not for the reasons he had hoped.
It is very good news indeed that the first stage has been rejeccted but I have the feeling this will be an issue that the council are about to let lie. I don't know if there is some form of commission to be drawn by the council for the monstrosity but certain members (and we know who they are) seem to be trying their damndest to push this through, regardless of public opinion.
Mike Randall's comments are completely true and it still mystifies me as to how some members of the council fail to see that the majority of the time, the pyramid will be nothing more than a blemish on the landscape. If, howeve, Cllr Leverett is wanting to get some notoriety for his name in history, he will most certainly be achieving that with his bull-headed actions, though perhaps not for the reasons he had hoped.
Posted by: RichT, Christchurch on 11:31am Fri 4 Jan 08
Poole council need just under £7 million to replace some of their vehicle fleet, according to another article. It therefore doesn't make sense that some people want to waste £40,000 on a "feasability study" and that almost £2000 has gone on "wining and dining". I'm glad their are still some counsellors who have the common sense to stand against this!
Poole council need just under £7 million to replace some of their vehicle fleet, according to another article. It therefore doesn't make sense that some people want to waste £40,000 on a "feasability study" and that almost £2000 has gone on "wining and dining". I'm glad their are still some counsellors who have the common sense to stand against this!
Posted by: Melly, Poole on 12:43pm Fri 4 Jan 08
[quote][bold]ALL SEEING EYE[/bold] wrote:
The counsellors should check how many [bold]FREEMASONS[/bold] are in the [bold]CABINET[/bold] and also part of the [bold]SOLAR PYRAMID TEAM[/bold] - Once again its jobs for the boys with the funny handshake and rolled up trouser leg sadly Poole Council is rotten to the core with these infiltrators. [/quote] I take it by your name, that you have an axe to grind against the Masons.
Don't mistake the networking within the society, with the obvious cronyism that is virulant within both Poole and Bournemouth Councils.
There may well be people mis-using their Mason's connections, but there are an awful lot more in the Council who just want to throw their collective weight around regardless of public opinion, just to get themselves noticed and to feel important.
And before you ask, no, I am not a member myself.
ALL SEEING EYE wrote:
The counsellors should check how many FREEMASONS are in the CABINET and also part of the SOLAR PYRAMID TEAM - Once again its jobs for the boys with the funny handshake and rolled up trouser leg sadly Poole Council is rotten to the core with these infiltrators.
I take it by your name, that you have an axe to grind against the Masons.
Don't mistake the networking within the society, with the obvious cronyism that is virulant within both Poole and Bournemouth Councils.
There may well be people mis-using their Mason's connections, but there are an awful lot more in the Council who just want to throw their collective weight around regardless of public opinion, just to get themselves noticed and to feel important.
And before you ask, no, I am not a member myself.
Posted by: ALL SEEING EYE, POOLE on 1:02pm Fri 4 Jan 08
[quote][bold]Melly[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]ALL SEEING EYE[/bold] wrote: The counsellors should check how many [bold]FREEMASONS[/bold] are in the [bold]CABINET[/bold] and also part of the [bold]SOLAR PYRAMID TEAM[/bold] - Once again its jobs for the boys with the funny handshake and rolled up trouser leg sadly Poole Council is rotten to the core with these infiltrators. [/quote] I take it by your name, that you have an axe to grind against the Masons. Don't mistake the networking within the society, with the obvious cronyism that is virulant within both Poole and Bournemouth Councils. There may well be people mis-using their Mason's connections, but there are an awful lot more in the Council who just want to throw their collective weight around regardless of public opinion, just to get themselves noticed and to feel important. And before you ask, no, I am not a member myself.[/quote] Axe to grind Melly? Perhaps if you knew how many Masonic closed shops there are in the area you would realise just how the network works. For instance try contracting in Poole docks if you are not a Freemason!I am glad you agree with me regarding the egotistical bullying counsellors whom most of are looking after their own personal interests. They are not all Freemasons but the ones with the power are!!
Melly wrote:
ALL SEEING EYE wrote: The counsellors should check how many FREEMASONS are in the CABINET and also part of the SOLAR PYRAMID TEAM - Once again its jobs for the boys with the funny handshake and rolled up trouser leg sadly Poole Council is rotten to the core with these infiltrators.
I take it by your name, that you have an axe to grind against the Masons. Don't mistake the networking within the society, with the obvious cronyism that is virulant within both Poole and Bournemouth Councils. There may well be people mis-using their Mason's connections, but there are an awful lot more in the Council who just want to throw their collective weight around regardless of public opinion, just to get themselves noticed and to feel important. And before you ask, no, I am not a member myself.
Axe to grind Melly? Perhaps if you knew how many Masonic closed shops there are in the area you would realise just how the network works. For instance try contracting in Poole docks if you are not a Freemason!I am glad you agree with me regarding the egotistical bullying counsellors whom most of are looking after their own personal interests. They are not all Freemasons but the ones with the power are!!
Posted by: ALL SEEING EYE, POOLE on 1:33pm Fri 4 Jan 08
[quote][bold]spoon[/bold] wrote:
Leverett is long overdue being kicked out of this council. VOTE HIM OUT![/quote] Fraternal Brother Cllr Leverett is far too protected by his cronies to be kicked out and far too well paid to resign!
spoon wrote:
Leverett is long overdue being kicked out of this council. VOTE HIM OUT!
Fraternal Brother Cllr Leverett is far too protected by his cronies to be kicked out and far too well paid to resign!
Posted by: ALL SEEING EYE, POOLE on 1:34pm Fri 4 Jan 08
[quote][bold]spoon[/bold] wrote:
Leverett is long overdue being kicked out of this council. VOTE HIM OUT![/quote] [bold]Fraternal Brother Cllr Leverett is far too protected by his cronies to be kicked out and far too well paid to resign![/bold]
spoon wrote:
Leverett is long overdue being kicked out of this council. VOTE HIM OUT!
Fraternal Brother Cllr Leverett is far too protected by his cronies to be kicked out and far too well paid to resign! Posted by: E.L.M., Dorset on 3:07pm Fri 4 Jan 08
[quote][bold]spoon[/bold] wrote:
Leverett is long overdue being kicked out of this council. VOTE HIM OUT![/quote] So would you take his place? If you think you can do his job go for it,as the old saying goes "put up,or shut up".
spoon wrote:
Leverett is long overdue being kicked out of this council. VOTE HIM OUT!
So would you take his place? If you think you can do his job go for it,as the old saying goes "put up,or shut up".
Posted by: palexgo, earth on 3:45pm Fri 4 Jan 08
Local authorities should be forbidden to undertake significant projects because they are obviously incapable of competent project management.
Portsmouth council overspent £11m on the spinnaker tower and Bath council squandered £26m refurbishing the baths.
I hate to think what the proposed bridge will cost Poole council tax payers.
Local authorities should be forbidden to undertake significant projects because they are obviously incapable of competent project management.
Portsmouth council overspent £11m on the spinnaker tower and Bath council squandered £26m refurbishing the baths.
I hate to think what the proposed bridge will cost Poole council tax payers.
Posted by: Tim M, usa on 4:25pm Fri 4 Jan 08
...and Bath council squandered £26m refurbishing the baths.
It'd be interesting to see whether the 21st Century work lasts as long as the Roman...
...and Bath council squandered £26m refurbishing the baths.
It'd be interesting to see whether the 21st Century work lasts as long as the Roman...
Posted by: godzilla, hamworthy on 4:47pm Fri 4 Jan 08
palexgo sdays: hate to think what the proposed bridge will cost Poole council tax payers.
The bridge will be an asset wahtever it costs and I will gladly pay towards it
palexgo sdays: hate to think what the proposed bridge will cost Poole council tax payers.
The bridge will be an asset wahtever it costs and I will gladly pay towards it
Posted by: Quakers, Poole on 5:57pm Fri 4 Jan 08
Lets get some facts in amongst the ranting and political side swiping Mr Eades. The £2000 food bill was paid for by the Tourist Centre not from our Council Tax (more like Income Tax being mispent by Mr Brown's staff). So far the only money spent has been on members allowances to attend the meetings. If this is to progress to a feasibility study then the developers should pay for it but I somehow do not expect the scheme to get that far. As for being a Councillor rather than a Counsellor - rather them than me. Also lets not get the Council workers and politicians mixed up. I see a lot of pleasant employees - a lot who think this will not fly, so make sure you aim your comments at the right targets - and dont miss Phil
Lets get some facts in amongst the ranting and political side swiping Mr Eades. The £2000 food bill was paid for by the Tourist Centre not from our Council Tax (more like Income Tax being mispent by Mr Brown's staff). So far the only money spent has been on members allowances to attend the meetings. If this is to progress to a feasibility study then the developers should pay for it but I somehow do not expect the scheme to get that far. As for being a Councillor rather than a Counsellor - rather them than me. Also lets not get the Council workers and politicians mixed up. I see a lot of pleasant employees - a lot who think this will not fly, so make sure you aim your comments at the right targets - and dont miss Phil
Posted by: ColinLambert, Parkstone on 6:27pm Fri 4 Jan 08
Quakers. I think you have mixed up your people.
Phil Eades is AGAINST this lunacy. Leverett (who kept saying 'set a hare running' last night!! I wish he would and so did most present last night as there were calls for his resignation))is the lunatic together with Parker who want to waste our money & blight our harbour side. They are elected Councillors. Bright, whose performance was just as dire and full of rubbish as Leverett's, is a paid Council Officer. Both should consider their positions after the appalling performance they put up yesterday, as should anyone in the Council, elected or paid, who is demented enough to think this abortion is a good idea.
Quakers. I think you have mixed up your people.
Phil Eades is AGAINST this lunacy. Leverett (who kept saying 'set a hare running' last night!! I wish he would and so did most present last night as there were calls for his resignation))is the lunatic together with Parker who want to waste our money & blight our harbour side. They are elected Councillors. Bright, whose performance was just as dire and full of rubbish as Leverett's, is a paid Council Officer. Both should consider their positions after the appalling performance they put up yesterday, as should anyone in the Council, elected or paid, who is demented enough to think this abortion is a good idea.
Posted by: accountability, Chichester on 7:19pm Fri 4 Jan 08
[quote][bold]ColinLambert[/bold] wrote:
Quakers. I think you have mixed up your people.
Phil Eades is AGAINST this lunacy. Leverett (who kept saying 'set a hare running' last night!! I wish he would and so did most present last night as there were calls for his resignation))is the lunatic together with Parker who want to waste our money & blight our harbour side. They are elected Councillors. Bright, whose performance was just as dire and full of rubbish as Leverett's, is a paid Council Officer. Both should consider their positions after the appalling performance they put up yesterday, as should anyone in the Council, elected or paid, who is demented enough to think this abortion is a good idea.[/quote] [bold]Nice one Colin!
You have to be blunt because these numpties don't see or hear any protests.
They are on their ego trips to an OBE or something for 60 years of stalwart service to 'their' community.
They need hiking out and let the sensible Mr Eades run the show.[/bold]
ColinLambert wrote:
Quakers. I think you have mixed up your people.
Phil Eades is AGAINST this lunacy. Leverett (who kept saying 'set a hare running' last night!! I wish he would and so did most present last night as there were calls for his resignation))is the lunatic together with Parker who want to waste our money & blight our harbour side. They are elected Councillors. Bright, whose performance was just as dire and full of rubbish as Leverett's, is a paid Council Officer. Both should consider their positions after the appalling performance they put up yesterday, as should anyone in the Council, elected or paid, who is demented enough to think this abortion is a good idea.
Nice one Colin!
You have to be blunt because these numpties don't see or hear any protests.
They are on their ego trips to an OBE or something for 60 years of stalwart service to 'their' community.
They need hiking out and let the sensible Mr Eades run the show. Posted by: Gordon, Poole on 7:31pm Fri 4 Jan 08
Why was the meeting not held at compton acres afterall the residents of baiter were discussing the same issues and as they will be paying for the project surely they deserve to treated the same? As a fellow rate payer I feel the feabilty cost should include a referendum of the ratepayers before any money is spent Dr Leverett would be free to campain for a yes vote if he feels its such a good idea if he gets a no vote he would have to resign.
Could not the money be invested in the new bridge to make that a first class attraction we need to be prudent with our money.
Why was the meeting not held at compton acres afterall the residents of baiter were discussing the same issues and as they will be paying for the project surely they deserve to treated the same? As a fellow rate payer I feel the feabilty cost should include a referendum of the ratepayers before any money is spent Dr Leverett would be free to campain for a yes vote if he feels its such a good idea if he gets a no vote he would have to resign.
Could not the money be invested in the new bridge to make that a first class attraction we need to be prudent with our money.
Posted by: Terry Pardy, Broadstone on 8:48pm Fri 4 Jan 08
So the Tourist Centre paid for the jollies then - so where does their money come from then? Thin Air? £2000 sounds like £100 each for twenty people - any chance of the names. Leverett at the top of the list I'll bet!
So the Tourist Centre paid for the jollies then - so where does their money come from then? Thin Air? £2000 sounds like £100 each for twenty people - any chance of the names. Leverett at the top of the list I'll bet!
Posted by: ALL SEEING EYE, POOLE on 9:11pm Fri 4 Jan 08
[quote][bold]godzilla[/bold] wrote:
palexgo sdays: hate to think what the proposed bridge will cost Poole council tax payers. The bridge will be an asset wahtever it costs and I will gladly pay towards it[/quote] Well Godzilla [bold]YOU[/bold] pay for the bridge!! The natives on this side of the water will not get any benefit but it will allow the hordes of foreiners from Hamworthy to infiltrate our Poole homeland. Seriously though Godzilla with your attitute you are playing right into the councils hands knowing that with people like you the council will fleece us as much as they can!!
godzilla wrote:
palexgo sdays: hate to think what the proposed bridge will cost Poole council tax payers. The bridge will be an asset wahtever it costs and I will gladly pay towards it
Well Godzilla
YOU pay for the bridge!! The natives on this side of the water will not get any benefit but it will allow the hordes of foreiners from Hamworthy to infiltrate our Poole homeland. Seriously though Godzilla with your attitute you are playing right into the councils hands knowing that with people like you the council will fleece us as much as they can!!
Posted by: Vikki27, Poole on 9:13pm Fri 4 Jan 08
Clearly the Council's priorities are in entirely the wrong place. If they really wanted to put the taxpayers money to good use, they would have all eaten at a nice pub or everyone would have paid for themselves. I'm pretty sure they all earn enough money to use their own cash to buy lunch, rather than using the money taken from OUR pay cheques.
Clearly the Council's priorities are in entirely the wrong place. If they really wanted to put the taxpayers money to good use, they would have all eaten at a nice pub or everyone would have paid for themselves. I'm pretty sure they all earn enough money to use their own cash to buy lunch, rather than using the money taken from OUR pay cheques.
Posted by: godzilla, hamworthy on 9:29pm Fri 4 Jan 08
[quote][bold]ALL SEEING EYE[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]godzilla[/bold] wrote: palexgo sdays: hate to think what the proposed bridge will cost Poole council tax payers. The bridge will be an asset wahtever it costs and I will gladly pay towards it[/quote] Well Godzilla [bold]YOU[/bold] pay for the bridge!! The natives on this side of the water will not get any benefit but it will allow the hordes of foreiners from Hamworthy to infiltrate our Poole homeland. Seriously though Godzilla with your attitute you are playing right into the councils hands knowing that with people like you the council will fleece us as much as they can!![/quote] my point is as we are paying through the nose anyway for something it might as well be useful AND i THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT A NEW BRIDGE WILL BENEFIT THE WHOLE AREA NOT JUST THIS SIDE OF THE WATER unlike yourself I care about all of Poole not just where i live
ALL SEEING EYE wrote:
godzilla wrote: palexgo sdays: hate to think what the proposed bridge will cost Poole council tax payers. The bridge will be an asset wahtever it costs and I will gladly pay towards it
Well Godzilla YOU pay for the bridge!! The natives on this side of the water will not get any benefit but it will allow the hordes of foreiners from Hamworthy to infiltrate our Poole homeland. Seriously though Godzilla with your attitute you are playing right into the councils hands knowing that with people like you the council will fleece us as much as they can!!
my point is as we are paying through the nose anyway for something it might as well be useful AND i THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT A NEW BRIDGE WILL BENEFIT THE WHOLE AREA NOT JUST THIS SIDE OF THE WATER unlike yourself I care about all of Poole not just where i live
Posted by: Nick, Bournemouth on 9:34pm Fri 4 Jan 08
[quote][bold]godzilla[/bold] wrote:
palexgo sdays: hate to think what the proposed bridge will cost Poole council tax payers. The bridge will be an asset wahtever it costs and I will gladly pay towards it[/quote] Writing as a former Army Engineer I think the second bridge design is seriously flawed. It will cost more to maintain than to build. I doubt they will be able to raise those big wings in a strong wind and ,once lifted, it will wobble.
There is also the question of all those HGVs using it. I saw no safety barriers.
godzilla wrote:
palexgo sdays: hate to think what the proposed bridge will cost Poole council tax payers. The bridge will be an asset wahtever it costs and I will gladly pay towards it
Writing as a former Army Engineer I think the second bridge design is seriously flawed. It will cost more to maintain than to build. I doubt they will be able to raise those big wings in a strong wind and ,once lifted, it will wobble.
There is also the question of all those HGVs using it. I saw no safety barriers.
Posted by: Benjamin, Hamworthy on 9:52pm Fri 4 Jan 08
Quakers. Who do you think provides the money fot the touristcentre to squander? Likewise, when 'Browns boys' misuse taxpayers money, where does he think that comes from?
Quakers. Who do you think provides the money fot the touristcentre to squander? Likewise, when 'Browns boys' misuse taxpayers money, where does he think that comes from?
Posted by: Benjamin, Hamworthy on 9:56pm Fri 4 Jan 08
[quote][bold]godzilla[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]ALL SEEING EYE[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]godzilla[/bold] wrote: palexgo sdays: hate to think what the proposed bridge will cost Poole council tax payers. The bridge will be an asset wahtever it costs and I will gladly pay towards it[/quote] Well Godzilla [bold]YOU[/bold] pay for the bridge!! The natives on this side of the water will not get any benefit but it will allow the hordes of foreiners from Hamworthy to infiltrate our Poole homeland. Seriously though Godzilla with your attitute you are playing right into the councils hands knowing that with people like you the council will fleece us as much as they can!![/quote] my point is as we are paying through the nose anyway for something it might as well be useful AND i THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT A NEW BRIDGE WILL BENEFIT THE WHOLE AREA NOT JUST THIS SIDE OF THE WATER unlike yourself I care about all of Poole not just where i live[/quote] We who live on Hamworthy will have to go around Holes Bay when the power Station site and bridge is complete. Blandford Road will be unusable!
godzilla wrote:
ALL SEEING EYE wrote: godzilla wrote: palexgo sdays: hate to think what the proposed bridge will cost Poole council tax payers. The bridge will be an asset wahtever it costs and I will gladly pay towards it
Well Godzilla YOU pay for the bridge!! The natives on this side of the water will not get any benefit but it will allow the hordes of foreiners from Hamworthy to infiltrate our Poole homeland. Seriously though Godzilla with your attitute you are playing right into the councils hands knowing that with people like you the council will fleece us as much as they can!!
my point is as we are paying through the nose anyway for something it might as well be useful AND i THINK YOU WILL FIND THAT A NEW BRIDGE WILL BENEFIT THE WHOLE AREA NOT JUST THIS SIDE OF THE WATER unlike yourself I care about all of Poole not just where i live
We who live on Hamworthy will have to go around Holes Bay when the power Station site and bridge is complete. Blandford Road will be unusable!
Posted by: Mike Pickering, Bournemouth on 11:50pm Fri 4 Jan 08
Instead of a pyramid, why don't they stay with the theme and build a huge steel Sphinx...
There could be an ice-rink in the body, and from the eyes they could project IMAX resolution films across to a huge screen on Brownsea Island.
Instead of a pyramid, why don't they stay with the theme and build a huge steel Sphinx...
There could be an ice-rink in the body, and from the eyes they could project IMAX resolution films across to a huge screen on Brownsea Island.
Posted by: E.L.M., Dorset on 1:07pm Sat 5 Jan 08
Alonside the Sphinx we could have THREE pyramids,it will save holidaying in Egypt, and they would nicely cover up all the dog mess at Baiter, which is getting to pyramid proportions.
Alonside the Sphinx we could have THREE pyramids,it will save holidaying in Egypt, and they would nicely cover up all the dog mess at Baiter, which is getting to pyramid proportions.
Posted by: Eddie, Poole on 4:02pm Sun 6 Jan 08
Just to add more pressure to Poole Council. Sign on the No 10 Downing Street web site http://petitions.pm. gov.uk/Solar-Pyramid /
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to stop the proposed Solar Pyramid from being built on Baiter Park, Poole Dorset
Just to add more pressure to Poole Council. Sign on the No 10 Downing Street web site http://petitions.pm. gov.uk/Solar-Pyramid /
We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to stop the proposed Solar Pyramid from being built on Baiter Park, Poole Dorset
Posted by: DavidR, Broadstone on 7:05pm Sun 6 Jan 08
It is very disturbing to hear that public contracts (using our money) may be let to specific groups such as freemasons, or denied to those who are not members of such groups. I have no problem with anyone who wishes to join any group or religion, but when it is my (and every council tax payers') money I want to be sure that absolutely open and fair selection processes are followed. Do we know for sure that the council auditors are not part of the same gang? Can the Freedom of Information Act show up not just for the Pyramid project, but all others, that the selection process is open and fair?
One can see why councillors could not accept hospitality for a lunch at Compton Acres (but what a lunch it must have been for the cost involved!) from potential contractors/consulta
nts, and so the council must pay to preserve the proprieties, but if outside parties are trying to get business from us, let them pay for the feasibility study in full, with no obligation upon the Council to accept the results.
One has an awful feeling that the proponents of the Pyramid scheme within the Council are not worthy guardians of the public purse. With this in mind, not just the Pyramid proposal but all other schemes of theirs must be looked at closely to see that all is well and above board.
We also need real and proven assurance that the council appointed auditors are truly independent and look into all business matters and contractor/consultan
t selection processes so that their findings can be published. The Pyramid Scheme has a smell about it that can only be dispersed by full disclosure of what has gone on and is going on.
I know that I am not alone in being suspicious of this scheme, and quite apart from all politics, it raises issues that need to be examined closely, with results published for everyone to see, not just for this scheme but for wider matters as well.
It is very disturbing to hear that public contracts (using our money) may be let to specific groups such as freemasons, or denied to those who are not members of such groups. I have no problem with anyone who wishes to join any group or religion, but when it is my (and every council tax payers') money I want to be sure that absolutely open and fair selection processes are followed. Do we know for sure that the council auditors are not part of the same gang? Can the Freedom of Information Act show up not just for the Pyramid project, but all others, that the selection process is open and fair?
One can see why councillors could not accept hospitality for a lunch at Compton Acres (but what a lunch it must have been for the cost involved!) from potential contractors/consulta
nts, and so the council must pay to preserve the proprieties, but if outside parties are trying to get business from us, let them pay for the feasibility study in full, with no obligation upon the Council to accept the results.
One has an awful feeling that the proponents of the Pyramid scheme within the Council are not worthy guardians of the public purse. With this in mind, not just the Pyramid proposal but all other schemes of theirs must be looked at closely to see that all is well and above board.
We also need real and proven assurance that the council appointed auditors are truly independent and look into all business matters and contractor/consultan
t selection processes so that their findings can be published. The Pyramid Scheme has a smell about it that can only be dispersed by full disclosure of what has gone on and is going on.
I know that I am not alone in being suspicious of this scheme, and quite apart from all politics, it raises issues that need to be examined closely, with results published for everyone to see, not just for this scheme but for wider matters as well.
Posted by: Jellalabad, Broadstone on 9:01pm Sun 6 Jan 08
This whole idea stinks of accusations which, for legal reasons, I cannot make in public. Was there ever such a foul sounding white elephant aired before the council? I object to spending a penny on the whole cretinous idea. When do the next elections come? What odds on the boy Leverett losing his seat? He's already lost his dignity.
This whole idea stinks of accusations which, for legal reasons, I cannot make in public. Was there ever such a foul sounding white elephant aired before the council? I object to spending a penny on the whole cretinous idea. When do the next elections come? What odds on the boy Leverett losing his seat? He's already lost his dignity.
Posted by: kevinparkstone, parkstone on 1:49pm Fri 11 Jan 08
i can only say well done to people power for getting this hare brained scheme derailed...it would have ranked alongside the tarmac field at creekmoor for stupidity!
i can only say well done to people power for getting this hare brained scheme derailed...it would have ranked alongside the tarmac field at creekmoor for stupidity!
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